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Procrasturbator
06-13-2017, 04:20 PM
This seems to be the latest message from CMD.
June 13 2017 - The process of getting approved by another payment processor is taking longer than we had hoped. At this point it is highly unlikely that we will be able to accept payments before the end of next week. The reason we are in this position is because an allegation was made to Visa that one of the models on CMD engaged in illegal activity during a show. We do not know if this allegation is true or not as we have not been provided with enough information to investigate the claim. We are doing everything we can to address the matter as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, it is a time consuming process. We appreciate your patience.
Don't want to speculate too much, but that sounds to be like a crooked 'customer' went to visa for a chargeback and made an allegation against a model as the reason.
Ughh, this is awful. That's really the only explanation. What, did a model just spontaneously do something illegal all by herself and the customer was so concerned and offended that he had to report it? Doubt it. I'm betting that it's either bullshit all around or the customer asked for it (which makes reporting it doubly stupid.)
Teddy_Bear
06-13-2017, 09:43 PM
CMD has pretty much become a back-burner site for me over the last 6 months now I am $5 a min I don't get as much business, however I do get longer shows when they come along and this problem with the payment processor does indeed suck.
It's another example of how quickly our income can be taken away outside of our control, similar to when the payout company debacle happened with Pacnet last year :( It's on such a knife-edge at all times.
foxirox
06-14-2017, 01:57 AM
Ughh, this is awful. That's really the only explanation. What, did a model just spontaneously do something illegal all by herself and the customer was so concerned and offended that he had to report it? Doubt it. I'm betting that it's either bullshit all around or the customer asked for it (which makes reporting it doubly stupid.)
The customer is most likely a scam artist. Visa is very coy when it comes to details and I don't think they'd they go into details about what was said, which makes it worse.
Ypsilon
06-14-2017, 09:10 AM
"June 14 2017 - In order to protect CMDs traffic and give you a better chance to convert clients willing to pay for a show, we have removed the payment notice from the home page and added a popup when the client clicks the purchase button letting them know to contact you about payment. Hopefully we will receive information soon about our current application with a new payment processor. We will inform you when we have more information to share."
this new update from CMD. still many clients refuse to pay somwhere else.
ep2002
06-14-2017, 09:28 AM
Just curious, is a backup payment processor something that a cam site should be expected to have?
Yes, any company that is high risk should have more than one processor & preferably from a different bank so if one goes down, they both don't go down unless Visa gets involved.
ep2002
06-14-2017, 09:31 AM
Ughh, this is awful. That's really the only explanation. What, did a model just spontaneously do something illegal all by herself and the customer was so concerned and offended that he had to report it? Doubt it. I'm betting that it's either bullshit all around or the customer asked for it (which makes reporting it doubly stupid.)
Could be a competitor too. That wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Happened to me years ago that I lost my MIDs due to a competitor :(
Girly_Girl
06-14-2017, 09:40 AM
I am trying to set up my indiebill pages:( Is there anywhere I can see some examples ?
freyasnecklace
06-14-2017, 10:36 AM
**Cries hysterically and logs into SM** Nooooo
noooo
Well, guess I'm going to have to send my regs to LCMS and indiebill if he doesn't get it sorted.
foxirox
06-14-2017, 11:20 AM
Mark has removed the message, which is a good call imo. :)
sweetandnaughty
06-14-2017, 11:30 AM
Yes it is. If it's a new client to CmD they won't know the difference and will just assume this is how it's done. Either way works for me. Hope it gets fixed soon.
melanielive
06-14-2017, 04:42 PM
this totally sucks.... it says it might not be fixed before the end of next week....
My b day is on the 20th, I want b day money! LOL
Ypsilon
06-15-2017, 02:40 AM
Can we even advertise IndieBill on CMD ? i was going to add the link to IndieBill payment page but i'm not sure it's correct ...what a mess
Teddy_Bear
06-15-2017, 08:05 AM
Had a reg who likes pics come by today and thankfully he was willing to pay through LCMS that was an easy $50 before I even tackled SM. I've not had anyone complain about paying elsewhere yet but then again I make them think they literally have no choice and if they want the show they have to do what I say.
I love submissive obedient men!
freyasnecklace
06-15-2017, 08:43 AM
Had a reg who likes pics come by today and thankfully he was willing to pay through LCMS that was an easy $50 before I even tackled SM. I've not had anyone complain about paying elsewhere yet but then again I make them think they literally have no choice and if they want the show they have to do what I say.
I love submissive obedient men!
My subs are keeping me paid through this CMD crisis, as well. *sigh*
laurielegs
06-15-2017, 09:13 AM
Can we even advertise IndieBill on CMD ? i was going to add the link to IndieBill payment page but i'm not sure it's correct ...what a mess
From what I understand they want us to wait till a guy contacts us then give your alternate payment info out through Skype.
SaraLaughs
06-15-2017, 02:27 PM
What a nightmare. I'm spending half of my working time trying to explain and coax customers to other sites- so far, very few are actually game for using other options. I get it- the other options aren't as discreet, straightforward, reliable and flexible as CMD. They just want to jerk off, and jump through as few hoops as possible to do so. But if CMD is down for the long term, I worry that it's going to drive a substantial portion of the traffic away permanently.
One thing I am confused about is how the site can be accountable for what one model decides to do. Surely other (SUBSTANTIALLY larger) cam sites have had this problem before. Unless the model was openly advertising illegal shows on her page, why would they penalize the site so severely?
Girly_Girl
06-15-2017, 03:15 PM
I havent been able to get anyone to pay anywhere else;( I have indiebill, lcms and model centro (which I've never even used since setting up) I even tried getting them to pay thru niteflirt. Which are y'all having the best luck getting them to pay you thru?
Jupiter77
06-15-2017, 03:16 PM
I havent been able to get anyone to pay anywhere else;( I have indiebill, lcms and model centro (which I've never even used since setting up) I even tried getting them to pay thru niteflirt. Which are y'all having the best luck getting them to pay you thru?
Ive only had 1 show and they paid thru Phrendly :/
seashell
06-15-2017, 04:44 PM
I havent been able to get anyone to pay anywhere else;( I have indiebill, lcms and model centro (which I've never even used since setting up) I even tried getting them to pay thru niteflirt. Which are y'all having the best luck getting them to pay you thru?
For me, IndieBill. But while my regs trust me and are using it, noobs haven't been too eager to try. Then again, if a large portion of us are directing guys there, maybe they'll eventually give in.
maddiebabe
06-15-2017, 05:35 PM
Yeah I also have trouble getting these guys to pay anywhere else but CMD so although I am not losing as much money as you all cuz I don't seem to get a lot indy business- I have definitely lost out on a few shows and this sucks.
nelli
06-15-2017, 06:02 PM
ive gotten guys to pay through project maenad bc they dont have to sign up. :P
Im still trying to figure it all out myself but so far it seems easy and safe.
projectmaenad.com
naomi_doll
06-15-2017, 06:11 PM
Are you just having them tip you there, or setting up an item for them to purchase for the amount of skype time?
nelli
06-15-2017, 06:20 PM
Im make albums with a few pics, then i create a link to one picture in the album with the amount we agree on. in the description of each album i put how much per min it is with the title "skype show". i hope this helps! (:
Susperia
06-16-2017, 02:59 PM
I lost 2 skype shows today because of this bullshit going on. Fuck!
foxirox
06-16-2017, 03:55 PM
This is the latest update today. June 16 2017 - "One of the reasons this issue has taken so long to resolve is that when our merchant bank closed our account, they also put us on the match list. This is a blacklist that prevents a merchant from being able to obtain a new merchant account ANYWHERE. We have been negotiating with our merchant bank to try and get removed so we can find another payment processor. We finally received word this morning that they will remove us from the match list. This means we can proceed with obtaining a new payment processor. We still have to go through that process and be approved. Once approved we will need to do development to integrate with the new payment processor. However, at this point the major roadblock that was holding us up has been removed. We will send an update once we have approval on the new payment processor".
Cutie101
06-16-2017, 05:29 PM
Hmmm... CMD is for sale.
http://adultsitebroker.com/rapidly-growing-skype-powered-cam-platform-now-available/
What's going on??
bigbootyjudy1
06-16-2017, 05:44 PM
Hmmm... CMD is for sale.
http://adultsitebroker.com/rapidly-growing-skype-powered-cam-platform-now-available/
What's going on??
Wow I'm sad to see this.My heart dropped :(
seashell
06-16-2017, 05:55 PM
Wow. I would be really sad to see the site run without Mark. I hope that the future owner would give us the same percentages and maintain Mark's no chargebacks policy.
CMD being down prompted me to launch my own site, so I can't complain too much. This just proves that we need multiple streams of income/marketing, in case something happens to one of them.
DahliaSimone
06-16-2017, 07:01 PM
Devastated. No other word. Just that. :(
KatyBoleyn
06-16-2017, 08:20 PM
We talked to him, he's not going anywhere any time soon. He was quite happy the flag was lifted with the cc companies and he'll be back in business shortly.
If you have a good business model, are good with the models that are being good to you, and you've been doing things a few years, there's not a whole lot that can kill you. This hit right as summer slow-down is ramping up, so the recovery should be quick. As a business owner, sometimes you do get curious to see what you're worth.
KLttyKat
06-17-2017, 07:41 AM
Hmmm... CMD is for sale.
http://adultsitebroker.com/rapidly-growing-skype-powered-cam-platform-now-available/
What's going on??
I am not going to say anything, but this.
I know Mark is the target of a lot of hate on this forum. But he is a real human person. He has feelings like the rest of us.
I am in no way saying that the criticism he has faced has effected him in anyway, he is a bull if anything.
But for those of us who are sad, devastated, can't see a CMD with out Mark, have we thought of letting him know that? Like any other human being, he appreciates being appreciated.
I don't know that it makes a bit of difference on what may or may not be happening. But maybe we could let him know how much he and his site means to us.
My heart breaks for him and what he has had to go through with the site being down for the payment processor issues. it effects us, there is no doubt. But a smart camgirl will survive this. My overall earnings have not been too affected by this (goes and finds wood to knock on, salt to throw over shoulder)
But this has effected him immensely. This is how he supports himself and his family. He can't simply ask a client to pay on another site. Can you imagine the strain that this has put on him? We can and should be able to survive. Yes, this sucks.
Mark is a human being. And he is going through this, more than any of us. He has 1.6K models on this site that depend on him. Not to mention a family.
So, those of us who do care about Mark, maybe just send him a message saying how much he and the site mean to us. My heart breaks for what he must be going through. The payment processor being lost is not his fault. At all.
Ok--I am sure I will get some hate/shade thrown my way over this post. Whatever. I care about CMD and Mark. If any of yall do, how about you tell him?
Glamourmilf
06-17-2017, 08:30 AM
^^No shade, because I love Mark to the moon and back. As a person.
As a business owner, not so much.
I must admit that I personally think it's his karmic retribution.
I was one of his first performers, and did extremely well.
But when he got greedy, and put the bidding system in place, my money quickly evaporated.
That, along with him pretending to be a client, who asks to be taken off site, put me off.
Just my :twocents:.
Obviously those who made bank on there feel differently.
It's subjective, is all.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-17-2017, 09:28 AM
Please stop with the dramatics. No one hates the man nor is he being targeted. You seem far too invested in his feelings to be honest. This is a forum where entrepreneurs come to discuss business. The good, the bad and the ugly. I don't even work on his site but I truly hope that he pulls through and from what I hear things are progressing in a positive direction. Also cammers have been loyal to his service for years and are now losing money because of this. So if someone complains and moans about it, it's not because it personal, it's business. No one here needs to send a married man a message telling him how much he means to them. That's his wife's job. That's what family is for. But this is about money. Mark if you're reading this I'd like to say I think you run an amazing service that's provided lots of cammodels with a viable income. And for that I say bravo. But please don't expect a avalanche of sweet nothings in your inbox. :D
I am not going to say anything, but this.
I know Mark is the target of a lot of hate on this forum. But he is a real human person. He has feelings like the rest of us.
I am in no way saying that the criticism he has faced has effected him in anyway, he is a bull if anything.
But for those of us who are sad, devastated, can't see a CMD with out Mark, have we thought of letting him know that? Like any other human being, he appreciates being appreciated.
I don't know that it makes a bit of difference on what may or may not be happening. But maybe we could let him know how much he and his site means to us.
My heart breaks for him and what he has had to go through with the site being down for the payment processor issues. it effects us, there is no doubt. But a smart camgirl will survive this. My overall earnings have not been too affected by this (goes and finds wood to knock on, salt to throw over shoulder)
But this has effected him immensely. This is how he supports himself and his family. He can't simply ask a client to pay on another site. Can you imagine the strain that this has put on him? We can and should be able to survive. Yes, this sucks.
Mark is a human being. And he is going through this, more than any of us. He has 1.6K models on this site that depend on him. Not to mention a family.
So, those of us who do care about Mark, maybe just send him a message saying how much he and the site mean to us. My heart breaks for what he must be going through. The payment processor being lost is not his fault. At all.
Ok--I am sure I will get some hate/shade thrown my way over this post. Whatever. I care about CMD and Mark. If any of yall do, how about you tell him?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-17-2017, 09:31 AM
^^No shade, because I love Mark to the moon and back. As a person.
As a business owner, not so much.
I must admit that I personally think it's his karmic retribution.
I was one of his first performers, and did extremely well.
But when he got greedy, and put the bidding system in place, my money quickly evaporated.
That, along with him pretending to be a client, who asks to be taken off site, put me off.
Just my :twocents:.
Obviously those who made bank on there feel differently.
It's subjective, is all.
He did that to me as well and I found it insulting. I think I responded with something like 'Really? You think I'm gonna fall for that?' He may have even mentioned paypal too? It was odd because I even had Fuck PayPal Don't Even Ask in my bio.
DahliaSimone
06-17-2017, 09:34 AM
I don't know Mark to really have an opinion either way, he seems nice enough I guess, but I have had very very limited interaction with him.....I just know that this entire situation has fucked my earnings on a huge scale. Will I survive this? Well, yeah. Camgirls are resilient. But I sure will whine the whole way lol. I just hope its back soon. Summer slump is bad enough without my top earning site being down as well.
Marina Starr
06-17-2017, 10:14 AM
Where is the 'target of a lot of hate on this forum' though? Can you provide the receipt?
http://lookpic.com/O/i2/183/cFgOWP4F.gif
I would say it's the total opposite. I always read good things about Mark. He is very helpful, professional and nice and hot!
http://lookpic.com/O/i2/1935/Kazbxk80.gif
I know Mark is the target of a lot of hate on this forum.
Jupiter77
06-17-2017, 10:26 AM
I has a question. For some odd reason like 90% of my custies are canadian. Anybody have any canadian friendly payment processors similiar to google wallet?
KatyBoleyn
06-17-2017, 10:43 AM
I has a question. For some odd reason like 90% of my custies are canadian. Anybody have any canadian friendly payment processors similiar to google wallet?
SkyPrivate, Indiebill, LiveCammodelShows... Google Wallet isn't a payment processor for cammodels.
Jupiter77
06-17-2017, 10:47 AM
SkyPrivate, Indiebill, LiveCammodelShows... Google Wallet isn't a payment processor for cammodels.
Sorry :( I didnt know. Ive been using it oh shit
DahliaSimone
06-17-2017, 11:03 AM
Where is the 'target of a lot of hate on this forum' though? Can you provide the receipt?
http://lookpic.com/O/i2/183/cFgOWP4F.gif
I would say it's the total opposite. I always read good things about Mark. He is very helpful, professional and nice and hot!
http://lookpic.com/O/i2/1935/Kazbxk80.gif
I have to agree that he's hot lol. Def. a DILF.
sweetandnaughty
06-17-2017, 11:19 AM
Mark has always been pleasant and professional and timely with any issue I had. As a business person. I appreciate that immensely. I keep personal feelings out of business. That doesn't mean you can't be personable... But those are two different thing entirely. I hope CMD bounces back bigger than ever. It's a wonderful site to work on. A nice egg in my basket, not the biggest but a nice one.
secretwebcamchick
06-19-2017, 08:49 AM
umm I'm not sure if he's done that to me before... I have gotten a lot of request before trying to pay offsite ...... that happens on any site... not sure how u girls are pinpointing that it was him.... BUT if it was him so what... good for him... he should test out the loyalty of the girls on his site... I would too and really he is doing US a favor by filtering out the trash so they aren't taking the custies that potentially could have bought a show from u... plus if the site was flooded with girls that wanted to do shows cutting out the site that creates a culture with the custies that will affect how they treat u and what they expect from u.... Come on though girls I'm sure u already know this... lets not just try and throw stones just to be throwing them.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-19-2017, 09:13 AM
umm I'm not sure if he's done that to me before... I have gotten a lot of request before trying to pay offsite ...... that happens on any site... not sure how u girls are pinpointing that it was him.... BUT if it was him so what... good for him... he should test out the loyalty of the girls on his site... I would too and really he is doing US a favor by filtering out the trash so they aren't taking the custies that potentially could have bought a show from u... plus if the site was flooded with girls that wanted to do shows cutting out the site that creates a culture with the custies that will affect how they treat u and what they expect from u.... Come on though girls I'm sure u already know this... lets not just try and throw stones just to be throwing them.
No one is throwing stones at Mark or targeting him? Where is this narrative coming from? His testing models was an actual thing. We've talked about this before on this board. I'm not sure if it's something he still does because I no longer use the site. I didn't have much luck with it to be honest but I'm still able to be happy for other models and I know a few personally who are scrambling right now. We talk about our experiences and preferences here on SW. It's discussion board. Mark is not being flamed. We want him to succeed because then the community succeeds as a whole.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-19-2017, 09:18 AM
Also I just wanted to add that when he first created CMD he allowed cammers to link to competing services like their cammodels.com links and other sites. In the beginning his main concern seemed to be models who used non-adult payment services. I think those were the ones he wanted to rid the site of. But over time he changed that and disallowed camsite links. He had an environment where people could very easily siphon traffic. I suppose you still could if you put your domain in your bio and offer alternatives on your personal website.
hyori
06-19-2017, 09:24 AM
Mark is hot and that was the only reason I kept my account there for so long. It was really easy to get rid of my account in its entirety on CMD which is a lot better than any regular camsite. The big box sites tend to claim rights over your content.
sweetandnaughty
06-20-2017, 04:22 PM
FUCK!
is it just me or did someone make an ad on cmd that says.."CREDIT CARD PAYMENT DOWN...ALL TIME WASTERS SKYPE WITH MODELS NOW!"
I have NEVER had so many timewasters and loosers on cmd as I have since this all started. I've blocked half the damn crooked client list. It's like honey to a bear, they must just sniff out this opportunity.
gahhhhh!!
seashell
06-20-2017, 06:57 PM
FUCK!
is it just me or did someone make an ad on cmd that says.."CREDIT CARD PAYMENT DOWN...ALL TIME WASTERS SKYPE WITH MODELS NOW!"
I have NEVER had so many timewasters and loosers on cmd as I have since this all started. I've blocked half the damn crooked client list. It's like honey to a bear, they must just sniff out this opportunity.
gahhhhh!!
Yeah, I bet they're all thinking the same thing: "CMD is down... now we can finally use PayPal!" lol
JaneBurgess
06-21-2017, 01:17 PM
Yeah, I bet they're all thinking the same thing: "CMD is down... now we can finally use PayPal!" lol
They sure are. Paypal or Google Wallet are what they keep asking me for. I send them a link to pay via indiebill
foxirox
06-21-2017, 03:45 PM
It's been a real mixed bag for me. Had a lot of Timewasters who wanted to be pay via Amazon and those trying it on. But had a lot of new custies and regs who were fine using Indiebill.
CMD has also just posted a new update. They are hoping to be approved by their new payment processor by the end of this week. And all being well they may be up and running by the end of next week :)
I have to say also, the ranking on CMD has been very fair. Mark has done a great job making sure all models get a fair go at being placed at the top - giving us all fair exposure during this time. Shows what a decent guy he is.
DahliaSimone
06-22-2017, 10:14 AM
It's been a real mixed bag for me. Had a lot of Timewasters who wanted to be pay via Amazon and those trying it on. But had a lot of new custies and regs who were fine using Indiebill.
CMD has also just posted a new update. They are hoping to be approved by their new payment processor by the end of this week. And all being well they may be up and running by the end of next week :)
I have to say also, the ranking on CMD has been very fair. Mark has done a great job making sure all models get a fair go at being placed at the top - giving us all fair exposure during this time. Shows what a decent guy he is.
Unless you are a trans girl. Just from my experience and perspective in my 7 months on the site. Its still my top earning site, so I love it for that and that alone.