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CurvyWinona
01-10-2014, 09:13 AM
i had 76 percent pvt time from voyeur time and it did not really help. i had made some money from voyeur but not so much. probably $5 to $10 per voyeur (usually 30-45 minutes long).

Snowy0Star
01-10-2014, 09:16 AM
i had 76 percent pvt time from voyeur time and it did not really help. i had made some money from voyeur but not so much. probably $5 to $10 per voyeur (usually 30-45 minutes long).

i see :/ they help me boost my paid time maybe u do so well in free chat that they hurt you ?

CurvyWinona
01-10-2014, 09:16 AM
probably. i am trying my best. i guess i will have to put in a lot of hours in next few days on sm and hope i will see any improvement.

justanothercamgirl
01-10-2014, 12:46 PM
i had 76 percent pvt time from voyeur time and it did not really help. i had made some money from voyeur but not so much. probably $5 to $10 per voyeur (usually 30-45 minutes long).

How strange!

I never make much money on voyeur but just use it to up my placement.

Let's get to the bottom of this and I will try to help. Were you doing back to back voyeur or were you doing privates as well? 76% is pretty good for paid percentage. What is your % usually at?

CurvyWinona
01-10-2014, 03:42 PM
I'm usually at about 20 percent lol but usually online for just few hours a day at $6.99/$9.99. I have lowered to. $5.99 yesterday and no improvement. I don't do back to back voyeur and I'm too afraid to try that. Today I managed to be bottom of second page for a bit then back to third page. Ugh. Tonight is my last night at my real job and this bs is making me worried. I have to leave my job due to physically unable to keep up with my tasks. I'm gonna try put in ridiculous hours on camming on sm to try get my placement back and also do a lot of other things.

annikah
01-10-2014, 06:12 PM
If it is something like kegal exercises, I'll charge maybe $5
^^^
That shit is brilliant! Totally on my to-do list tonight.

space_cowgirl
01-10-2014, 08:51 PM
For sleeping voyeur shows, how the heck do you sleep with the lights on (presuming it's at night), or do you wear a sleep mask? I'm afraid I would turn away from the light all night and they'd only see a pile of blankets.

justanothercamgirl
01-10-2014, 09:47 PM
I'm usually at about 20 percent lol but usually online for just few hours a day at $6.99/$9.99. I have lowered to. $5.99 yesterday and no improvement. I don't do back to back voyeur and I'm too afraid to try that. Today I managed to be bottom of second page for a bit then back to third page. Ugh. Tonight is my last night at my real job and this bs is making me worried. I have to leave my job due to physically unable to keep up with my tasks. I'm gonna try put in ridiculous hours on camming on sm to try get my placement back and also do a lot of other things.

And you placement dropped after trying the voyeur shows? Hmmmm......that is so strange. I totally understand that this all is making you worried. It is a stressful situation for sure. For the life of me I am not sure why voyeur would drop your placement a bunch of pages. Voyeur shows are pretty much the only thing keeping my placement a float these days with how sick I have gotten.

How many favourites do you have? I know that favourites do play a part in the placement algorithm so you could try using an autotext to remind people to favourite you and see if that will help get your placement up faster.

Glamourmilf
01-11-2014, 08:16 AM
Just my 2cents on doing Voyeur shows lately. I've notice that if I try to do them, guys don't 'get it', or don't like it, so nobody buys in. However, if I'm ansty sitting in free chat for too long, I do a short 'Peep show' kind of thing, where the buy-in is 1-3 dollars, for boobs, ass, whatever, and have the goal low, timer low, so at least I get guys coming in and paying. (I figure, If my room is full and nobody takes me prvt., I'm going to get their $$$ one way or another!) It works-Everytime! Plus it keeps my % in paid high, and a lot of guys throw in more than I'm asking, and then I'm not so bored.
Hope this helps.

CurvyWinona
01-11-2014, 09:14 AM
I think I have about 1,900 favorites. That is probably low IMO. I will start ask guys to add me to the favorites. Yesterday I earned about total 50 GOLD tips for my videos and flashes.. that helps but not so much. I usually earn about 100 or so GOLD tips and few exclusive sessions at $9.99 on every day I am online and I did not have that this week. meh. Now, I have left my job and I will spend more time online all week starting tomorrow and figure out. :) Thank you all for helping me!

justanothercamgirl
01-11-2014, 09:57 AM
I think I have about 1,900 favorites. That is probably low IMO. I will start ask guys to add me to the favorites. Yesterday I earned about total 50 GOLD tips for my videos and flashes.. that helps but not so much. I usually earn about 100 or so GOLD tips and few exclusive sessions at $9.99 on every day I am online and I did not have that this week. meh. Now, I have left my job and I will spend more time online all week starting tomorrow and figure out. :) Thank you all for helping me!

It has taken a lot of time and nagging but I have 12,439 favorites from harassing guys to add me.

CurvyWinona
01-11-2014, 10:06 AM
Yeah. I will put please add me to fav in my topic. Hope that would make them want to add me.

justanothercamgirl
01-11-2014, 10:13 AM
Yeah. I will put please add me to fav in my topic. Hope that would make them want to add me.

I send them an autotext at the beginning of each private. Guys seem to take notice of it more!

Snowy0Star
01-11-2014, 11:39 AM
I send them an autotext at the beginning of each private. Guys seem to take notice of it more!

good idea and rate 5 stars at the end XD

CurvyWinona
01-12-2014, 04:32 AM
ooo good idea. i made an auto text of add me to fav. :D

i finally have a normal time right now and hope it stays! im taking a break. here is what my usual earning, but i am still at middle second page.. i cannot complain after horrible last week, though.

36024

that is all without gold show or voyeur. i wanted to do voyeur for all extra $ and to be online more than just few hours. i was online for only 83 minutes and i am already tired. i want to do 4-5 hours or so a day, for max earning... i thought doing voyeur would help greatly. =/


oh and yes, i raised my price from 5.99 back to 6.99 after a pvt with 3 guys in.. i was like fuck it i lost a dollar each min with those guys. haha

djezcheeze
01-12-2014, 10:39 AM
Are there any other good sites to do voyeur besides sm. I never get ANY traffic on sm.

justanothercamgirl
01-12-2014, 08:46 PM
good idea and rate 5 stars at the end XD

Yep, I do that too! :D

CurvyWinona
01-24-2014, 09:28 AM
Okay, its week two with shitty placement. Last week my earning was much better but this week, not so much. Today, I tried two 15 min voyeur shows with $1 buy in and $2 buy in the next voyeur.

I earned 28 gold tips and $9 buy ins (5 in $1 voyeur and 2 in $2 voyeur). Total is $37. I took audritwo's tip that I give free video or whatever for join my goldshow and that got more guys interested. One guy bought both of my videos for $5 (one free video and one for $5) instead of my usual $15 in freechat. I hope this is good for page 3-4 and to help my placement back.

How will this affect me if I do $1 goal for goldshow and start the show immediately? With $1, it is almost 100% guaranteed my goal will be met with a buy in during goldshow.


And if I do much longer voyeur and a custie wanna do a private with me, what should I do? To cancel my show and take his offer? What if I already had other guys' buy ins earlier?

SophieL
01-24-2014, 09:57 AM
o well safer is better then sorry but now u know for the next time

So if I did a gold voyeur show the local who want to sit in free chat and harass me would not be able to see me? Interesting idea…I had the geo blocks on but it kills me on traffic :(

laurielegs
01-24-2014, 10:26 AM
So if I did a gold voyeur show the local who want to sit in free chat and harass me would not be able to see me? Interesting idea…I had the geo blocks on but it kills me on traffic :(

Why are you allowing anyone to harass you? Just ban them immediately as soon as they come in.

SophieL
01-26-2014, 06:11 PM
Why are you allowing anyone to harass you? Just ban them immediately as soon as they come in.

They are in the free part so occasionally I can kick them out but they come right back in. The other night I could not even kick them out. :(

laurielegs
01-27-2014, 09:05 AM
They are in the free part so occasionally I can kick them out but they come right back in. The other night I could not even kick them out. :(

Are you talking about that free chat way down at the bottom - guys with no credit cards who aren't registered? I always disable that unless I'm doing gold shows and wanting to be eligible for TV Gold shows. Lately I haven't been getting TV offers so I disable that.

Even if you enable it, why read that? They can't pay you so just minimize it if you are going to have it enabled. Honestly I really see no reason to leave it on in your settings unless you are doing TV.

Lights
01-27-2014, 10:20 AM
I am so sick of guys coming into my voyeur shows and complaining asking when the show's going to start, telling me to spread and fuck myself, telling me I'm a bitch and a whore or scamming them! Like seriously? It's $5-$10 for at least an hour, sometimes up to four hours and I'm supposed to be screwing myself silly for that! Are they crazy? If they took me private for an hour, that would cost them $360 and they're going to complain.
Not to mention if they actually freaking READ for once, they'd see the show description, the topic, AND my profile which specifically says it's a VOYEUR show meant to SPY!

Also, since when was seeing a naked girl boring? Especially for so cheap. I manage to block most who complain after I've taken their gold of course, but sometimes I'm not paying attention to chat and miss them. Wish we could block after they've left.

Glamourmilf
01-27-2014, 10:44 AM
^^Lights, I get sooo annoyed by that too. I now do 2 things- first, I auto-text when I'm in the voyeur that "this is a voyeur only, and if You want to direct their own show, they must go exclusive".
2nd thing I do is just tell them to give more gold if they want to see something specific. Like bj, penetration, whatever. I start at 5-10 gold each, depending.
The beggers just leave. When I'm doing a long voyeur-i.e. over 30 minutes, I don't even look at what they are writing.
Hope that helps.

Lights
01-27-2014, 10:48 AM
Thanks! That does help! I'll try that. It's just soooooo annoying. I can't understand how some can be so stupid :/

SophieL
01-27-2014, 11:25 AM
Are you talking about that free chat way down at the bottom - guys with no credit cards who aren't registered? I always disable that unless I'm doing gold shows and wanting to be eligible for TV Gold shows. Lately I haven't been getting TV offers so I disable that.

Even if you enable it, why read that? They can't pay you so just minimize it if you are going to have it enabled. Honestly I really see no reason to leave it on in your settings unless you are doing TV.

Yes..that part at the very bottom. lol when I have geoblock on there will not be anyone in there for weeks. Thin minute I turn it off they show up and write txt that indicates they know me or are locals that know of me. I guess it is really just an irritant to me. But when geoblock is on my placement sucks :(

Glamourmilf
01-27-2014, 11:26 AM
^^ They are men, and men don't read.. (Oh, unless You post.."FREE PUSSY' then they suddenly can read). Lol! I even had one pissed off custie who paid 1 dollar, type that it he just wasted his money, and it was one dollar he'll never see back again! (it was for a boob only voyeur, clearly posted in my topic box)

laurielegs
01-27-2014, 03:15 PM
Yes..that part at the very bottom. lol when I have geoblock on there will not be anyone in there for weeks. Thin minute I turn it off they show up and write txt that indicates they know me or are locals that know of me. I guess it is really just an irritant to me. But when geoblock is on my placement sucks :(

You are confusing Geoblock with non-credit card chat. Geoblock has nothing to do with leaving your free nonregistered chat enabled.

Non-credit card traffic won't affect your traffic at all and you only need to leave that on if you want to be available for TV Gold shows. I'd turn it off if you are getting local stalkers. That could be dangerous as well as annoying, plus if you did convert one of those you don't even get credit. If you want to convert traffic use your cammodels link outside the site.

Click Settings tab on the window where you stream and choose No where it says "allow free chat, no credit card".

justanothercamgirl
01-27-2014, 04:28 PM
I am so sick of guys coming into my voyeur shows and complaining asking when the show's going to start, telling me to spread and fuck myself, telling me I'm a bitch and a whore or scamming them! Like seriously? It's $5-$10 for at least an hour, sometimes up to four hours and I'm supposed to be screwing myself silly for that! Are they crazy? If they took me private for an hour, that would cost them $360 and they're going to complain.
Not to mention if they actually freaking READ for once, they'd see the show description, the topic, AND my profile which specifically says it's a VOYEUR show meant to SPY!

Also, since when was seeing a naked girl boring? Especially for so cheap. I manage to block most who complain after I've taken their gold of course, but sometimes I'm not paying attention to chat and miss them. Wish we could block after they've left.


Sunshine, it is a voyeur show. Why are you even reading what they are writing? It is just a draining waste of your limited energy. Entitled men will never learn and they will never change.

Save yourself the heartache and do what I do....when I am running voyeur I put my encoder window on top of the message window and just underneath the clock countdown then I don't pay any attention to anything other than how much time is left on the clock.

If there is one thing I've learned from doing voyeur shows is that their entitlement is NOT your problem.

Snowy0Star
01-27-2014, 04:36 PM
i read it for my own amusement theyre childish rants make me laff. the most recent one i got was a guy who said "wow what a gr8t show" then left. i no longer do voyeur gold shows because i recently learned that ur average $ per hour factors in more then ur paid % and when i was going voyeurs i was doing them for an hour and only getting like 1-3 tip ins and i always set them as a $3 buy in so i was pulling in like about 1-3 USD per hour so im pretty sure it was pulling me down in the main listings im always in the top row 1-4 box in BBW but im trying to climb up in the main listings .

justanothercamgirl
01-27-2014, 04:55 PM
i read it for my own amusement theyre childish rants make me laff. the most recent one i got was a guy who said "wow what a gr8t show" then left. i no longer do voyeur gold shows because i recently learned that ur average $ per hour factors in more then ur paid % and when i was going voyeurs i was doing them for an hour and only getting like 1-3 tip ins and i always set them as a $3 buy in so i was pulling in like about 1-3 USD per hour so im pretty sure it was pulling me down in the main listings im always in the top row 1-4 box in BBW but im trying to climb up in the main listings .

That is so interesting! I rarely do voyeur shows over 10 minutes and always under 20 minutes. I just don't trust SM to not glitch out and for me to be left with nothing for all that time I've put in.

Was your paid % still at 90% and you found that your placement was falling?

Snowy0Star
01-27-2014, 05:16 PM
i honestly dont know where i am in the main listings but before i started doing voyeurs and up until 2-3 weeks ago i was 1-2 box in the bbws and now im like 3-4 lately and ive been putting in longer hours the past few weeks. two week ago i got only 150 in 3 days before i said fuck it and had a mini burn out and didnt work until Monday of last week out from the long hours it took to get that 150 but i needed my food budget and 100 for my part of living expenses to give to my bf when normally i average 25 every two hours and pull in 300 a week and last week it took me until friday working everyday just to get 100 for payout so i have money this friday for my food for next week and i had to put in a lot of hours to get that so that and in combination of the voyeurs situation and ive been getting A LOT less traffic then normal. i can only come to the conclusion its partly because my hourly $ average drastically dropped. when i do voyeurs i do like 3-4 back to back just in case i do drop connection . so 3-4 hours only pulling in like 1-3 $ probably hurt me quite a bit i reckon on top of the low income the past few weeks and the large amount hours i put in to get it

justanothercamgirl
01-27-2014, 08:40 PM
i honestly dont know where i am in the main listings but before i started doing voyeurs and up until 2-3 weeks ago i was 1-2 box in the bbws and now im like 3-4 lately and ive been putting in longer hours the past few weeks. two week ago i got only 150 in 3 days before i said fuck it and had a mini burn out and didnt work until Monday of last week out from the long hours it took to get that 150 but i needed my food budget and 100 for my part of living expenses to give to my bf when normally i average 25 every two hours and pull in 300 a week and last week it took me until friday working everyday just to get 100 for payout so i have money this friday for my food for next week and i had to put in a lot of hours to get that so that and in combination of the voyeurs situation and ive been getting A LOT less traffic then normal. i can only come to the conclusion its partly because my hourly $ average drastically dropped. when i do voyeurs i do like 3-4 back to back just in case i do drop connection . so 3-4 hours only pulling in like 1-3 $ probably hurt me quite a bit i reckon on top of the low income the past few weeks and the large amount hours i put in to get it

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if you were right. You know your placement and money way better than I do. Thanks for sharing your struggles so I could learn more. I just feel so bad that you are struggling right now at all. You are awesome! It isn't fair that you have too. :(

SophieL
01-27-2014, 08:44 PM
You are confusing Geoblock with non-credit card chat. Geoblock has nothing to do with leaving your free nonregistered chat enabled.

Non-credit card traffic won't affect your traffic at all and you only need to leave that on if you want to be available for TV Gold shows. I'd turn it off if you are getting local stalkers. That could be dangerous as well as annoying, plus if you did convert one of those you don't even get credit. If you want to convert traffic use your cammodels link outside the site.

Click Settings tab on the window where you stream and choose No where it says "allow free chat, no credit card".

Thank you so much… I had no idea that was there or if I did I forgot all about it… big hug for that info :)

SophieL
01-28-2014, 07:01 AM
It worked.. it worked..;) xxoo it was so nice to cam and be on page 1-2 and not be hassled by local freeloaders. :) Thank you so much laurielegs.

SophieL
01-31-2014, 08:56 PM
So.. I have been trying this voyeur show thing out…I did a shower show this am. I charged $4 for a 30 min shower/makeup/hair voyeur. Too little/too much? 4 ppl came in. I honestly did not think anyone would even bother to watch.

Staples
02-06-2014, 07:00 AM
I can't decide if Voyeur shows are hurting or helping my placement. I think I'm going to start doing them when I go to sleep only and do my normal hustle the rest of the time.

SophieL
02-06-2014, 11:34 AM
I have started them frequently on things that I am going to do regardless (shower, hair, makeup)... Etc. I have been breaking it up into 10-15 min segments charging $4-5. I get a few ppl in. I don't see it as a loss of time since I have to of all that anyway and if I can make a bit $$ all the better :)

ClassyCara
02-07-2014, 05:32 AM
I am going to start using SM just for voyeur. I am testing other sites and seem to be doing better on them. I want to keep SM as a good backup and don't want to completely lose my following, so I will be doing voyeur while I'm my normal life stuff! (cleaning, cooking, showering, getting dressed, etc.) I've done voyeur before, and most of my shows are 30 min. I think any longer is too long for the cheap price. This way guys have to pledge again to for more time, and I can potentially get more pledgers. I start another countdown and stay in free chat for about 5 min so I pop back up in placement. But I go into the show after that no matter if someone joins or not.

If I'm home and can cam, I will. Why not make money while living, even if its only a little?! It's a little more than I had before, and will add up at the end of the week/month. Plus, when I have bad days on other sites, I can get back on SM and custies will still know who I am at least :)

Candy_Woman
04-05-2014, 10:10 AM
OMG, Where do I sign?

http://geekologie.com/2014/01/gastronomic-voyeurism-south-korean-woman.php

justanothercamgirl
04-05-2014, 11:48 AM
I am going to start using SM just for voyeur.

That is what I've been doing lately. I didn't want to end up losing my Streamate account from not streaming.

smaddy
04-05-2014, 01:56 PM
How much do you think % in paid affects your earnings? I took a long break from caming on SM and my placement is way way down. I'm thinking about trying some tricks to get it back up. Such as back to back gold shows.

Snowy0Star
04-05-2014, 02:11 PM
How much do you think % in paid affects your earnings? I took a long break from caming on SM and my placement is way way down. I'm thinking about trying some tricks to get it back up. Such as back to back gold shows.

i talked about this a few pages back that gold shows heavily boost ur paid % but unless ur pulling in $200 gold shows in like 15 min or so its going to bring down ur hourly $ average witch IMO hits u hard in ur placement thats why i stopped doing them. i believe its ur hourly average that effects ur placement more then ur paid % but try it if u want and see how it goes .

LilyAnderson
06-12-2014, 11:56 AM
Another hint to voyeurs: Do them when less models in your category are logged in. I've noticed that I receive more pledges during those times.

Femmestudent
06-12-2014, 12:19 PM
I try and time my voyeur gold shows when no one else in my category is running any gold shows. I do the best then. Its not always possible to do it this way but when I can its great.

Glamourmilf
06-12-2014, 02:29 PM
I do them during the day only. I make most of my camming money at night, or in the wee hrs, of the morning. So, if I'm home and want to catch a movie, and make money at the same time, It's always a plus for me to do them then.

RaineyLane
09-13-2014, 05:30 PM
bump bump bump!

Glamourmilf
09-14-2014, 11:18 AM
Can we keep this thread going by adding 'Stupid or annoying things I've heard while in a voyeur show?'
If so, I, personally would love it.
I have no other place to vent them (other than things that piss me off thread).
Maybe, just maybe, if custies do come in here, they will read it and not say those things anymore.:crossfing
I try not to read their stupid comments, or demands, but I like to peek at it, because a lot of times, a regular will ask me if he can take me exclusive right after the show.
Or someone wants to tip extra to see something other than what I'm showing in that particular show.
Thankx

Missbeth
09-14-2014, 04:52 PM
^ I like that idea
Someone today "so what do you have planned for this show"
Ummm it's clearly in the topic ughh

Glamourmilf
09-14-2014, 07:17 PM
These are just from yesterday and today............

"Are You wearing heels?"

"Zoom In!"

"Zoom Out!"

"Why won't You talk to me?"

"Show Face"

"Is this live, or is it a recording?"

"Are You drunk?'

"This is lame."
"This is weak!"

"I want my money back?"

"Can we do some JOI?"

"When does the show start?"

"DO SOMETHING!"