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OliveJardin
10-23-2013, 10:18 AM
I would put her higher on the moral scale that someone who stole and left customers destitute.
^Customers walk into the club to spend money, so if they leave "destitute", then it's their fault ::). We don't have access to their bank account details and we aren't the ones reaching into their wallets handing the cash over to ourselves. Being given money to do your job isn't stealing, it's just getting paid! If they didn't come to spend money on naked ladies, they would have gone to a regular bar.
rickdugan
10-23-2013, 10:44 AM
The analog was the large group of self identifying merchants proclaiming that event “X” never happens, and yet it does on occasion. It has nothing to do with its legality.
I don't think that anybody spoke in absolutes here. Some dancers have simply said that it does not happen with them. Nobody is doubting that it can happen, though many (including me) think that the odds against spontaneous loss of control are high for most dancers. For the most part, dancers who are inclined to kiss for larger tips will do so under the right circumstances and those who are not do not.
The reason that you are having trouble wrapping your arms around this is that you were told by your ex GF that she had never kissed a customer like that before. I have no doubt that she was very convincing when she told you that. ;)
whirlerz
10-23-2013, 06:20 PM
^^ What? Whose stealing from customers? Whose leaving them destitute? If you choose to buy 10 plasma TVs and then get kicked out if your house (cuz u can't pay rent), are the TVs to blame? I've never drug someone to a strip club and forced them to give me a penny. That comment seems super random.
No one said she was a slut either, just that you met in a club and she worked you when you very first met. That hardly makes her an uber-slut.
I don't see the connection between money managers who embezzle for financial gain and strippers who get off in lapdances. Both parties are working, but getting off in a lapdance will not help you afford a new swimming pool. It will keep you from being able to afford rent. Successful embezzlement, on the other hand, will get you a swimming pool. Plus embezzling is against the law--stripping (or even getting off during lapdances, as you claim your GF does) is not illegal. Bad analogy.
}:D}:D}:D
LUV this!8)
Gainful
10-24-2013, 03:17 AM
I don't think that anybody spoke in absolutes here. Some dancers have simply said that it does not happen with them. Nobody is doubting that it can happen, though many (including me) think that the odds against spontaneous loss of control are high for most dancers. For the most part, dancers who are inclined to kiss for larger tips will do so under the right circumstances and those who are not do not.
The reason that you are having trouble wrapping your arms around this is that you were told by your ex GF that she had never kissed a customer like that before. I have no doubt that she was very convincing when she told you that. ;)
I agree with every thing people are saying here, in a perfect world business and pleasure do not mix. But we are all human and do silly things at times. From my stand point, her reputation in the club, and her vigorous pursuit of me over several weeks, cause me to believe she was sincere. Nor am I entertaining some fantasy that I am "all that", I am just a middle aged working stiff, nothing special.
I am inclined to think we are dealing in absolutes, before I posted my story all the posts were nope, nope, nope and after it was all fooled, fooled, fooled. The one possibility no one wants to accept is that she was telling the truth.
Jasmine.Doll
10-24-2013, 07:47 AM
None of us know you. None of us know this girl. So of course we are not talking in absolutes. We are just talking about our experienced and most of us can't fathom the scenario you are painting about that kiss... But, anything is possible. Tomorrow I could wake up and find a rainbow shooting out of my butt. It's unlikely, but they say that the world is full of endless possibilities.
rickdugan
10-24-2013, 08:09 AM
I agree with every thing people are saying here, in a perfect world business and pleasure do not mix. But we are all human and do silly things at times. From my stand point, her reputation in the club, and her vigorous pursuit of me over several weeks, cause me to believe she was sincere. Nor am I entertaining some fantasy that I am "all that", I am just a middle aged working stiff, nothing special.
I am inclined to think we are dealing in absolutes, before I posted my story all the posts were nope, nope, nope and after it was all fooled, fooled, fooled. The one possibility no one wants to accept is that she was telling the truth.
This is getting circular now. The posts in here were varied and nuanced and your story didn't change anything one iota. If you are not getting that then go back and read more slowly. Each one of your points has already been made and responded to. Let me summarize: (1) Yes, anything is possible; (2) We tend not to believe it is real because it is a common ploy used by some dancers in most cases it is not real; and (3) Some dancers here have said that they wouldn't do it, which I believe and so should you, unless you are saying that you know better than them what they would and would not do.
Anything else?
lestat1
10-24-2013, 09:04 AM
None of us know you. None of us know this girl. So of course we are not talking in absolutes. We are just talking about our experienced and most of us can't fathom the scenario you are painting about that kiss... But, anything is possible. Tomorrow I could wake up and find a rainbow shooting out of my butt. It's unlikely, but they say that the world is full of endless possibilities.
I'd tip extra for that. Just sayin'.
Rouleur
10-24-2013, 11:41 AM
The moment I walk into a Strip Club, I understand everything is an act. The more I enjoy my time in the club the more I understand that I was in the presence of some amazing actresses. And you know what? It is enough for me. I leave with a smile and they remain with my money. I think it is a completely fair transaction.
simone87
10-24-2013, 11:42 AM
you came here asking a question. you got your answer, it wasn't the one you wanted, but it was a truthful answer from real dancers. why ask if you don't really want to know?
OliveJardin
10-24-2013, 06:14 PM
why ask if you don't really want to know?
^That happens a lot here, posters ask questions and we answer them honestly (and bluntly I'll admit, but we do get the same questions over and over) and the OPs get defensive. We aren't attacking anyone, just giving you our "expert" opinions (that come from our own experiences). Your situation may be the exception, or it may be someone's hustle. We weren't there and don't know either of you, we can only draw from our own experiences and "knowledge" of the inner working of the industry to try and help. Either way, take our responses on board and continue enjoying yourself, getting dances and having fun at your local SC :)!
musik22
10-26-2013, 11:24 AM
If the being defensive thing was directed at me, I don't think I was... I think this was a good healthy discussion. A few more things to add. With my experiences I've heard from dancers that I was just tipping on stage that I hadn't even met before, things like "cute guys like you make my job tough" (I've probably got the cute compliment from over 30 different dancers). I've had dancers shove their tongue down my throat out of nowhere and do that the whole song. Some have said I was making them horny, I was skeptical about this, but their pussies were soaking wet. I've been able to turn this into now dating dancers. I don't think they said all these things to get tips (they didn't get tips from me), I think they said it because they meant it, which is why I think dancers are more truthful than most customers think. I also don't think this stuff is as rare as everyone thinks. Unless I'm a once in a lifetime supermodel lol that dancers fall heads over heels over, then I think this happens to quite a few customers. There are a few good dancer members on TUSCL that "tell it how it is" but also admit that dancers getting turned on by customers can and does happen. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Jasmine.Doll
10-26-2013, 11:55 AM
^^Ok. You are a God among men. After all pussies don't just lubricate themselves... Or, wait. I'm pretty sure they do. I love it when guys use the wet pussy as evidence of a chick being turned on. My pussy is always extra wet at work. That what it does when it's constantly being exposed to friction from lapdances.... It's not happy. It's the opposite. It's irritated and getting wet to compensate.
And yeah, lots of girls include kissing as part of their hustle. What's your point?
OM fucking G, 30 dancers said you were cute? That's fucking nuts. Wow. You MUST be special. Wasn't this thread about a wanting to know if strippers got wildly turned on during lapdances and broke their sacred stripper codes? To that, I still say lapdances are BORING. I'm not denying that once and awhile a relationship starts in a SC. Happened to me once. I am saying that its wildly and extremely rare for a girl to lose her shit over a cute guy, during a lapdance. On the other hand, it's very common for strippers to fake infatuation for $. I'm tired of this thread.
tuesdaymarie
10-26-2013, 12:14 PM
This reminds me of this remarkably rotund Indian guy who bought a few dances from me this summer. He smelled bad and kept making weird whining noises during the dance. I was in the process of trying to think myself out of buying Jack in the Box tacos on the way home because I am a carb fiend when he says, "Oooh, you are enjoying this more than me. I can feel it getting hotter on my leg!" while pointing to my crotch. So yeah, customers totally make me wet too, apparently.
Also, I tell pretty much every customer he's cute/handsome, as long as he's not so deformed that he know it's absolute bullshit.
yoda57us
10-26-2013, 12:33 PM
There are a few good dancer members on TUSCL that "tell it how it is" but also admit that dancers getting turned on by customers can and does happen.
Ah, I see. Well, this is not TUSCL. You are on a dancer support site, not a customer gratification site now. I have no doubt that you have experienced exactly what you are claiming to have experienced since I have as well quite a few times-sorry I can't quote a number as you did but I don't bother to keep count. I'll remind you once gain however that I'm in my mid 50's, balding and not a guy that will ever be mistaken for "in shape". What's my point? My point is that it is the money that matters. You started off asking a question but now you are bragging about scoring with strippers and bordering on calling the ladies here liars for doing nothing more than talking about how they behave with customers. What's your point? It's not really a good idea to come here carrying the truth as it exists on TUSCL as your lead-in. Two different sites with two vastly different goals. Please try to remember which one you are on.
safado
10-26-2013, 12:45 PM
If the being defensive thing was directed at me, I don't think I was... I think this was a good healthy discussion. A few more things to add. With my experiences I've heard from dancers that I was just tipping on stage that I hadn't even met before, things like "cute guys like you make my job tough" (I've probably got the cute compliment from over 30 different dancers). I've had dancers shove their tongue down my throat out of nowhere and do that the whole song. Some have said I was making them horny, I was skeptical about this, but their pussies were soaking wet. I've been able to turn this into now dating dancers. I don't think they said all these things to get tips (they didn't get tips from me), I think they said it because they meant it, which is why I think dancers are more truthful than most customers think. I also don't think this stuff is as rare as everyone thinks. Unless I'm a once in a lifetime supermodel lol that dancers fall heads over heels over, then I think this happens to quite a few customers. There are a few good dancer members on TUSCL that "tell it how it is" but also admit that dancers getting turned on by customers can and does happen. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
lol you actually believed all that?
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whirlerz
10-26-2013, 08:06 PM
^^Ok. You are a God among men. After all pussies don't just lubricate themselves... Or, wait. I'm pretty sure they do. I love it when guys use the wet pussy as evidence of a chick being turned on. My pussy is always extra wet at work. That what it does when it's constantly being exposed to friction from lapdances.... It's not happy. It's the opposite. It's irritated and getting wet to compensate.
And yeah, lots of girls include kissing as part of their hustle. What's your point?
OM fucking G, 30 dancers said you were cute? That's fucking nuts. Wow. You MUST be special. Wasn't this thread about a wanting to know if strippers got wildly turned on during lapdances and broke their sacred stripper codes? To that, I still say lapdances are BORING. I'm not denying that once and awhile a relationship starts in a SC. Happened to me once. I am saying that its wildly and extremely rare for a girl to lose her shit over a cute guy, during a lapdance. On the other hand, it's very common for strippers to fake infatuation for $. I'm tired of this thread.
I'm sorry but..:rotfl::rotfl::hypnotize
whirlerz
10-26-2013, 08:07 PM
Also, I tell pretty much every customer he's cute/handsome, as long as he's not so deformed that he know it's absolute bullshit.
&, this, lmao.
musik22
10-26-2013, 08:18 PM
Good point Yoda, I did veer off in another direction than the original question. I think I'm done with this thread.
whirlerz
10-26-2013, 08:34 PM
Good point Yoda, I did veer off in another direction than the original question. I think I'm done with this thread.
:thanx:
EyesWideShut
11-11-2013, 11:06 PM
I am def not made of stone. I love sex. But for me, getting paid to dry hump a stranger is a little different then being with someone I LIKE and WANT to spend time with and have real, naked, wet, animal noises sex. A lapdance isn't even in the same universe as sex is. Why is that so hard for some guys to understand?
Which is precisely why I stopped getting lap dances long ago. My rational common sense won out over my libido.
I know the dancer isn't doing it because she wants to, and I'm not getting what I really want.
Strangely, it is equally hard for dancers to understand this when I decline their invitations for a private dance.
If they press me on the issue, and I am compelled to explain, they get bitchy and ask why I even came in.
Well, at every club I've been there was no sign over the entrance stating that lap dances are mandatory.
I realize that is primarily how dancers make their $, but there are various reasons why men go into strip clubs.
Not all customers want a crotch polish or simulated sex.
Every customer that walks into an appliance store is not obligated to buy a dish-washer. Thats why they have salesmen.
unbeleavable
11-11-2013, 11:14 PM
Just so we know why You are there & not asking for the dishwasher? Why are you there?
Rouleur
11-11-2013, 11:20 PM
Eyes, the next time you visit a hardware store, pull up a seat, and ogle the wrenches, let me know how that works out.
Jasmine.Doll
11-11-2013, 11:27 PM
Strangely, it is equally hard for dancers to understand this when I decline their invitations for a private dance.
If they press me on the issue, and I am compelled to explain, they get bitchy and ask why I even came in.
Well, at every club I've been there was no sign over the entrance stating that lap dances are mandatory.
I realize that is primarily how dancers make their $, but there are various reasons why men go into strip clubs.
Not all customers want a crotch polish or simulated sex.
Every customer that walks into an appliance store is not obligated to buy a dish-washer. Thats why they have salesmen.
I don't think it's confusion, the girls are experiencing. I think they are feigning confusion rather than expressing how deeply annoyed they are... Why do you go to the strip club if you don't want strippers? I don't like chicken nuggets. So, you'll never catch me sitting at McDonalds, not eatting them. Of course dancers are going to be annoyed if you are being a waste of space at the stripclub! And of course there's no sign that says there is a lapdance minimum at the strip club. McDonalds doesn't have a chicken nuggets minimum sign, either.
Also, the dude at Sears is making a wage. We are paying house fees to hang out with you.
unbeleavable
11-11-2013, 11:30 PM
Eyes you are going be shut.
justanothercamgirl
11-12-2013, 07:13 AM
I'm not going to speculate as to the OP's motives for asking the question but I it has been my experience after years of reading these forums and seeing what happens in the clubs that lots of guys think that being good looking gets them more in the private dance area. FWIW I see the same sort of misguided thinking on the escort sites as well. There seems to be some sort of unwillingness to accept, at least from a segment of the male population, that a woman can use her sexuality for the sole purpose of financial gain with no emotional attachment to the guy she is taking money from. Does it happen? Probably on occasion but women who fall prey to that sort of behavior are generally not very good at being a stripper. Since this site is not populated with failed strippers it is unlikely that the OP will hear any stories confirming the type of behavior that he is curious about.
Same thing happens in the camgirl world too. Guys will say, "Well, I am good-looking so I *know* you aren't going to charge me for a show."
They seem to have this belief that it is only 'work' if the guy is 'ugly'. My guess is that since 'visual cues' are so important to guys in what makes them horny that it is easy to make the false assumption that it works the same way for women too.
justanothercamgirl
11-12-2013, 07:24 AM
Ah, I see. Well, this is not TUSCL. You are on a dancer support site, not a customer gratification site now. I have no doubt that you have experienced exactly what you are claiming to have experienced since I have as well quite a few times-sorry I can't quote a number as you did but I don't bother to keep count. I'll remind you once gain however that I'm in my mid 50's, balding and not a guy that will ever be mistaken for "in shape". What's my point? My point is that it is the money that matters. You started off asking a question but now you are bragging about scoring with strippers and bordering on calling the ladies here liars for doing nothing more than talking about how they behave with customers. What's your point? It's not really a good idea to come here carrying the truth as it exists on TUSCL as your lead-in. Two different sites with two vastly different goals. Please try to remember which one you are on.
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Djoser
11-13-2013, 03:20 AM
Unless you include my clocking a guy who was behaving like the perfect gentleman until the moment he tried to shove his hand into my gstring. Then yes, I would say my dances have occasionally led me to sm initially unintended behaviour.
I love this girl!
...Still, it's hard work convincing a group of horny customers that you are the filthiest skank in North America, night after night.
And this one too haha!
Example: I worked with a girl who once screwed a bald customer because she was convinced he'd lost his hair due to chemo and she wanted to be his "final fuck." (It didn't occur to her that chemo would have likely also eliminated his eyebrows, arm and back hair, I guess... Or that he weighed 50 extra lbs.) Also, in a really white area, I worked with 2 girls who screws a black customer because there was a NBA game happening in town and they just assumed he was a player. They were hoping to get knocked up. Guy was like 5'8"
Meth is a horrible drug...
:D
Sorry to laugh, when I have seen this type of stuff--and worse--from the methheads. But you can either cry, pretend it didn't happen at all, or laugh. I choose the latter.
About the lapdances. I have had to watch them on the cameras over the years for a couple of reasons. They are fucking boring as hell to watch, let me tell you. If you wanted to pick up a dancer for real, you wouldn't buy them. Some dancers do get turned on at work, but they are by far not the majority and you'd be way better off going to a meat market.
Aniela
11-13-2013, 11:04 AM
I love this girl!.
I :lovestruc: you too!
Jasmine.Doll
11-13-2013, 11:18 AM
This may be hard to believe, but the girls I wrote about weren't into meth, or any drugs other than weed. The chemo girl was just insane. She was 18 or 19... Adorable. Insane. She went to church twice a week. She was just nuts! I don't know what else to say about her. Any the NBA girls were just dumb. Skanky and dumb. But, I still loved them!!!!
Jasmine.Doll
11-13-2013, 11:58 AM
I did work with a meth head once who peed in my stripper suitcase b/c she said she knew it was me who had put the camera inside her deoterent.
oldster
11-13-2013, 02:36 PM
teach you to try and get pics of her armpits..................................