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Snowy0Star
11-03-2013, 10:58 AM
o i c the whole thing happened shortly after i joined SW so i wasnt around to be a part of everything unfolding so all of my info i heard thru the grapevine

GinaF
11-03-2013, 10:58 AM
Wow so he has hacked several different girls, several different times. Their email addresses, their Stripperweb forum accounts, their actual webcam accounts too? Wow. That is low. This person deserves to have his studios taken away for good

Milaa
11-03-2013, 11:00 AM
I guess the day Colin hacked the SW accounts we all learned to never use the same passwords on any cam website or account related.

Also I do have an email adress to reach AW directly..

Nikki_Fox
11-03-2013, 11:01 AM
Edited - I was incorrect in my previous statement - Pj was banned for posing as a female - you can read the old threads regarding the hacking and draw your own conclusions - my apologies

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:03 AM
I guess the day Colin hacked the SW accounts we all learned to never use the same passwords on any cam website or account related.

Also I do have an email adress to reach AW directly..

Could you post the email address for everyone? This is serious

Milaa
11-03-2013, 11:05 AM
See, the problem is...
There are a lot of people who NEED DP.
IF Colin his group gets deleted and all members are released then they will get no more DP.

Even though he should not be allowed to be group member anymore I don't want to put other girls in financial difficulties.

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:08 AM
See, the problem is...
There are a lot of people who NEED DP.
IF Colin his group gets deleted and all members are released then they will get no more DP.

Even though he should not be allowed to be group member anymore I don't want to put other girls in financial difficulties.

Well you either get paid daily and get paid by a sociopath who threatenss and will post personal information, or you don't. If you have to think over whether you can take the risk of your social security number and drivers license and address being put online, then you need to re-evaluate your life's priorities..

The more he gets away with, the further he pushes the limit.. Someone PMed me screen snaps of his emails. Wow. They get worse and worse. This will not get better until he is stopped. He is a sociopath

This threatens YOUR LIFE, your children, your future employment, your credit history, and your finances!

Milaa
11-03-2013, 11:10 AM
I' m not op DP anymore.. I left about 2 months after he got extremely rude because I told him he forgot to pay me again but charged the full fee.

I already sent AW an email about this and posted the message he posted on his forum.

If you want to tell them type in "abusive" in the AW help section and give AW your story.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-03-2013, 11:10 AM
You guys should try to stay calm and maybe hold off on the emailing the sites. I'm sure its already been done. But this could backfire in a major way. Yes what he is doing is fucked up but what if the swift solution from AW and SM is to wash their hands of everyone involved? Think about it. AW is already very strict on who they let operate on their site and how they siphon the traffic to different locals. I say be cool and try to ride it out until you can break away. I wish I had better advice to give at the moment. I just think staying calm and keeping a clear head will benefit each of you in the long run. If you have an alternative site that isn't DP then maybe you should start focusing on that for a bit? You know instead of being in this guys pocket for money you may not get. We already see what happens when people loose their shit and go crazy with threats. That guy is probably scrambling right now to cover his ass.

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:11 AM
You guys should try to stay calm and maybe hold off on the emailing the sites. I'm sure its already been done. But this could backfire in a major way. Yes what he is doing is fucked up but what if the swift solution from AW and SM is to wash their hands of everyone involved? Think about it. AW is already very strict on who they let operate on their site and how they siphon the traffic to different locals. I say be cool and try to ride it out until you can break away. I wish I had better advice to give at the moment. I just think staying calm and keeping a clear head will benefit each of you in the long run. If you have an alternative site that isn't DP then maybe you should start focusing on that for a bit? You know instead of being in this guys pocket for money you may not get. We already see what happens when people loose their shit and go crazy with threats. That guy is probably scrambling right now to cover his ass.

Everyone is calm what are you talking about? This is just illegal activity and should be taken very seriously. Everyone involved should email. It is for your own safety and your own right.

Models did nothing wrong. Only this guy. Models would not get punished for a crazy man threatening very illegal things..

Milaa
11-03-2013, 11:15 AM
I'm actually deleting this - dont want to give him any ideas

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:17 AM
See, the problem is...
There are a lot of people who NEED DP.
IF Colin his group gets deleted and all members are released then they will get no more DP.

Even though he should not be allowed to be group member anymore I don't want to put other girls in financial difficulties.

If you don't want anyone to be in financial difficulties, I suggest that this Colin guy should not get to run a studio anymore! If a social security number and all the information pertaining to it is leaked, someone can easily open multiple accounts and credit cards under the social security number without the real person even knowing. That leads to financial ruin because the criminal racks up debt and then disappears. Only the social security owner is held responsible for those accounts and finds out after the debt has been racked up. That is how is works in the States at least.. Financial ruin

Nikki_Fox
11-03-2013, 11:19 AM
This has been a downward spiral since he was banned from here. My concern is that when it blows up he is going to run with ladies money - and if this source of money dries up what is he capable of doing with all of the info he has collected over the years???

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:22 AM
There are SO MANY girls on DP or on SM weekly pay or whatever he is all offering.
He is always crying about how his business is not profitable.. yeah right..

If anything he absolutely fucking banks every single day.

I am just now re-reading through this thread. Wow! How can he say he does not make profit?? I found this to be his roster of Adultwork girls: There are so many! He must make profit since he is both Adultwork and Streamates right? Wow I can't believe how much this sociopath lies.

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:24 AM
This has been a downward spiral since he was banned from here. My concern is that when it blows up he is going to run with ladies money - and if this source of money dries up what is he capable of doing with all of the info he has collected over the years???

Well what is the other option for you ladies? Continue to let him be abusive? Start threatening larger things? Going through with posting personal information and getting away with it? He already has the information..

And I see several girls saying he hasn't been paying them? He has missed several days payments? Jesus. He needs to have his studios shut down. It will only get worse I'd imagine

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:27 AM
If girls really did owe him money, why did he not just with-hold their pay the next time they made money? That seems like the logical way to do things. Isn't this his own fault?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-03-2013, 11:28 AM
Just offering a different perspective. And just wanted to point out that things do not always go they way that they "should". If every girl involved in this studio were to be released there is no guarantee that they will be immediately reinstated. Causing them to miss out on money with or without DP. Just what if it's in the best interest of these sites to not do business with any of the parties involved. It would be very easy for them to terminate all ties. And quite possible they won't even consider how that could be viewed as a punishment towards models, but more along the lines of it being a business decision. That's what I was talking about. Sorry if that doesn't make sense to some of you. But anyways I'm gonna step back now. I sincerely hope that this fizzles out and gets corrected without too many casualties.

ShortyGetLo
11-03-2013, 11:29 AM
Oh wow. :| glad I never bothered joining DP now, hope you ladies can get this sorted without losing money, what a terrible thing to do :(

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:31 AM
Just offering a different perspective. And just wanted to point out that things do not always go they way that they "should". If every girl involved in this studio were to be released there is no guarantee that they will be immediately reinstated. Causing them to miss out on money with or without DP. Just what if it's in the best interest of these sites to not do business with any of the parties involved. It would be very easy for them to terminate all ties. And quite possible they won't even consider how that could be viewed as a punishment towards models, but more along the lines of it being a business decision. That's what I was talking about. Sorry if that doesn't make sense to some of you. But anyways I'm gonna step back now. I sincerely hope that this fizzles out and gets corrected without too many casualties.

I saw a thread on a bad Adultwork studio where girls were released when I was searching for "Princess Jenny" in the search box. They let the girls proceed as normal and only punished the studio. Some of them joined the dailypay studio and I suppose others did not join a studio at all. I would assume most cam sites work the same way. I can link you to it if you'd like.. So that would not happen..

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:35 AM
I saw a thread on a bad Adultwork studio where girls were released when I was searching for "Princess Jenny" in the search box. They let the girls proceed as normal and only punished the studio. Some of them joined the dailypay studio and I suppose others did not join a studio at all. I would assume most cam sites work the same way. I can link you to it if you'd like.. So that would not happen..

This was the thread..

Cam models will be fine. Just the studio would be punished xx

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-03-2013, 11:48 AM
Im already familiar with that thread. And back then when I read it I had a huge laugh considering who started the thread and what I had heard about Princess Jenny waaaay back then. I would probably laugh now if it weren't for the irony of whats stated there and how upset everyone is. Take care everyone.

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:49 AM
Im already familiar with that thread. And back then when I read it I had a huge laugh considering who started the thread and what I had heard about Princess Jenny waaaay back then. I would probably laugh now if it weren't for the irony of whats stated there and how upset everyone is. Take care everyone.

Well I'm sure he realized he could get many more sign-ups by getting other studios banned..

GinaF
11-03-2013, 11:51 AM
Those camming websites need to know! They cannot leave this type of person on their roster! Those girls need to be released!

All of you right now who are apart of the dailypay studio, email [email protected] and tell her that you are NOT okay with having this person be your studio owner! They need to release all girls immediately and terminate him as a studio owner! This is not okay! Do you really want this person to run your pay and threaten your personal data left & right? Say something!

Does anyone have the contact information for Adultwork?

Again, I'd like to emphasize. xx

HaydenBlue
11-03-2013, 12:03 PM
Gina please don't take offense I realize you have awesome intentions but please take a breather. Yes this is very very serious but cramming it down people's throats isn't going to make them want to do it any more than they already want too. Putting it in giant font and reposting over and over is not helping.

It is spamming this thread with unnecessary posts when people really need to be reading the meat of this if they want to get all the information out of it. I'd hate to see something as important as this get bogged down and turned into a 20 page thread of redundant information.

Screaming and panicking like we're chickens with our heads cut off in this thread doesn't help anyone or anything. If someone isn't posting anything to further this thread - then yes maybe you should go report this to all of the websites affiliated with DP. Make a big post on Tumblr about all of this - with links of where girls can report DP to the websites / get help. Share it everywhere and get girls to reblog it. Blow twitter the fuck up. Hasttag the fuck out of your tweets with anything related to Colin or DP. Write a blog post. Do something productive.

GinaF
11-03-2013, 12:08 PM
alot of nasties out there will be more than happy to steal your identity or worse, call at your door http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

I just noticed you posted a link to the thread. I can't read it, it says I need an account with them and I don't have one.

Did he really say that?? He WANTS "nasties" to come out and steal his own cam girl's identities and show up at their door?? This is absolutely disgusting and repulsive! Is that real?? Can someone confirm for me? Maybe by posting a screenshot here for those that can log in to that forum..

loveshooks
11-03-2013, 12:08 PM
First off, I want to thank you BootieBabe for posting about the issue here, I think Colin's latest activities are something of which every cam chica needs to be aware and I really appreciate you posting about it here.

Just wanted to clarify a few points here. I know everyone in verified already has access to this info but for the benefit of chicas not in verified and to clear up some confusion I figured it was important to set the record straight:

PJ/Colin was banned for lying about his gender. As mods we're not allowed to police off-site behaviour, and he was permanently banned based upon his behaviour here. What brought the issue of his gender to light was an incident involving a disagreement he had with a sw member that resulted in a hacking attempt on one of her email accounts off-site. According to the sw IP tracker and the 'suspicious activity' notification from the offsite email provider (the two IPs matched) the IP of the person who attempted to hack her email matched the IP used by PJ here. Anyone is free to draw their own conclusions from that but we're not law enforcement, we can't definitively prove that PJ did that. Point is, we didn't need to, his behaviour on site violated the rules of the forum. PJ was banned based upon his behaviour on site.

His behaviour following the ban, creating a false video trying to prove himself to be female, attempting to evade a ban by using the sw account of a cam chica, with or without her consent (the IP tracker showed that someone using PJ's IP accessed the sw account of a cam chica who also uses DP) served to demonstrate that banning him was a smart decision.

Also, regarding MFC and DP, I believe DP was removed from MFC due to a tax/1099 issue. I'm not sure on that, but I do know that the removal of the DP studio from MFC had nothing to do with SW or any members of sw. From what I'm reading here now it looks like MFC did a huge favor to chicas who work that site, in that I can imagine that chicas who do use DP on other sites are feeling pretty vulnerable and worried right now, regardless of whether they personally owe money on loans or not.

I know that's all water under the bridge and this current situation is FAR more serious than anything that occured in the past, but I did want to clarify for chicas who don't have access to verified so that misinformation isn't muddled into what's going on now. I think it's important that everyone have access to the same information and to clear up any misunderstandings about why PJ was removed from sw

as to this current situation, wishing the best to every chica on DP. What I've been reading here is pretty scary and I hope that as the situation progresses that PJ's threats to reveal personal info come to naught and that no one gets hurt. This is all pretty scary and un-fucking-acceptable.

edit: just want to echo Hayden above, I hope the focus of the thread stays on course so that chicas on DP have the info they need and can do what they can to mitigate their risk of harm. Hysteria here doesn't serve the needs of chicas on DP, and for their sake that need to be the focus here.

Changing passwords is a pretty important point, thanks to both Hayden and Mila for posting about that below.

bootiebabe
11-03-2013, 12:09 PM
I just noticed you posted a link to the thread. I can't read it, it says I need an account with them and I don't have one.

Did he really say that?? He WANTS "nasties" to come out and steal his own cam girl's identities and show up at their door?? This is absolutely disgusting and repulsive! Is that real?? Can someone confirm for me? Maybe by posting a screenshot here for those that can log in to that forum..


its all in the very first posting

Milaa
11-03-2013, 12:10 PM
The only thing I would like to add is ladies change your passwords!

Is your facebook / email / twitter or whatever account similair or the same as the password on the cam account you have DP on?
Then change all your other passwords just so he does not get any acces to it if things would blow up.

GinaF
11-03-2013, 12:11 PM
Gina please don't take offense I realize you have awesome intentions but please take a breather. Yes this is very very serious but cramming it down people's throats isn't going to make them want to do it any more than they already want too. Putting it in giant font and reposting over and over is not helping.

It is spamming this thread with unnecessary posts when people really need to be reading the meat of this if they want to get all the information out of it. I'd hate to see something as important as this get bogged down and turned into a 20 page thread of redundant information.

Screaming and panicking like we're chickens with our heads cut off in this thread doesn't help anyone or anything. If someone isn't posting anything to further this thread - then yes maybe you should go report this to all of the websites affiliated with DP. Make a big post on Tumblr about all of this - with links of where girls can report DP to the websites / get help. Share it everywhere and get girls to reblog it. Blow twitter the fuck up. Hasttag the fuck out of your tweets with anything related to Colin or DP. Write a blog post. Do something productive.

I am all for seeing justice served. I have seen girls get eaten alive in this industry by pimps and I do not want to see this happen anymore than it could. I am not screaming and panicking lol silly, I am just here to help :). I just like that get 'er done action

strippername
11-03-2013, 12:11 PM
They deserve it. What would you do if someone stole from you?

GinaF
11-03-2013, 12:11 PM
its all in the very first posting

You can't read it without logging in and and I do not have a login for that site

HaydenBlue
11-03-2013, 12:14 PM
If you're on C4S you can change your password and email and lock him out of your account.

Snowy0Star
11-03-2013, 12:15 PM
You can't read it without logging in and and I do not have a login for that site

she ment the OP of the thread. the OP of the thread collin made about this whole situation in his DP forum was cut and pasted as the OP of this thread

Milaa
11-03-2013, 12:17 PM
They deserve it. What would you do if someone stole from you?

They didn't steal it. He gave them a loan knowing there would be a chance of never seeing the money back.
Just like if you can't affort your mortgage, you didn't steal from the bank, you failed to live up to your end of the deal.
Not paying back the loan is very bad and nasty thing to do, yes indeed.

However, blackmailing and threatening people is illegal.
And that is what he did.

Not just that - because of that low trick A LOT of girls will leave DP.
Colin isn't a very reliable and stable person.. what do you think he is going to do with the personal details - accounts and money of the other girls when his business goes to shit?

"You deserve it for trusting him?"

I don't think so.

Ms.Lacey
11-03-2013, 12:17 PM
Ladies please don't engage the troll (above) so this thread doesn't turn into a drama filled locked thread

GinaF
11-03-2013, 12:21 PM
If you're on C4S you can change your password and email and lock him out of your account.

Won't you still be listed under them as a studio? I didn't know they did clips4sale too..

GinaF
11-03-2013, 12:21 PM
If you're on C4S you can change your password and email and lock him out of your account.

Won't you still be listed under them as a studio? I didn't know they did clips4sale too..

HaydenBlue
11-03-2013, 12:23 PM
Won't you still be listed under them as a studio? I didn't know they did clips4sale too..

No, Dailypay - if I'm understnading correctly only gets the C4S login information from the girls - then he goes in, and changes the emails, and banking details to route to him, so he can then dole out the payments daily. Someone correct me if im wrong.

strippername
11-03-2013, 12:24 PM
I am not a troll. I really think they deserve it. I used Daily Pay and would feel like a scumbag if I owed him money and didn't pay it back. People who steal and ripoff escorts get their information outed. Same thing to me.

HaydenBlue
11-03-2013, 12:25 PM
This is from the social security website.

ssa.gov

Also, you should file an online
complaint with the Internet Crime
Complaint Center (IC3) at www.ic3.gov.
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GinaF
11-03-2013, 12:27 PM
No, Dailypay - if I'm understnading correctly only gets the C4S login information from the girls - then he goes in, and changes the emails, and banking details to route to him, so he can then dole out the payments daily. Someone correct me if im wrong.

Okay I hope those girls are able to get out safely! I thought it was more a platform type of situation. Someone should also email clips4sale about his erratic and abusive behavior. Has anyone done so?

loveshooks
11-03-2013, 12:27 PM
Ladies please don't engage the troll (above) so this thread doesn't turn into a drama filled locked thread

not gonna let that happen MsLacey, the issue here is too important to allow drama to sidetrack it. Thanks to everyone posting constructive info, y'all are awesome.

for real, any squabbling needs to go somewhere else, this is not the thread for it. we're moving on to constructive things chicas on DP can do to protect themselves from harm now. this needs to be about safety and needs to stay that way.

mariqueen
11-03-2013, 12:40 PM
I emailed Liz. I figured I'd post what I sent to her below, so here it is:

Dear Liz,

I'm writing in regards to some alarming information that I've received pertaining to a studio attached to Streamate. This particular payment system, known as DailyPay, is planning on publicly airing the personal information of models who - to this date - have failed to pay back past loans. For further information, here is the email that this gentleman sent to us, in addition to a thread link where you can be better informed of the current ongoings. As I'm sure you can agree, this is more than distressing behavior:

Title: All DP Members: Personal Details Being Published of the people that stole from us

Hi, catchy email title right? Well, for those who took a loan from us and
didnt bother their back sides paying us back effectively stealing from us
will now have their personal details posted online for the world to browse
over.

The thread is here for it:



Unfortunately we have been left with no choice.

Thanks

DailyPay

Here too is a link from a frequented forum, StripperWeb, where many of the models are remarking on this disturbing debacle:



Lastly, here is his contact email:

[email protected]

All in all, I'm writing in attempt to report a situation that could potentially place many past and present models at risk. The publishing of this personal information (including legal names and social security numbers) will not just be affecting them, but also their families. My chief concern, admittedly, is the potential risk that the children of these cam models could potentially be placed in. It's repeatedly said we don't want children on camera, for reasons that are beyond understandable. It shocks me that the owner of this studio would go about placing innocent children at risk in such a way as this - when beyond doubt, some customers that frequent cam sites can indeed be shady individuals.

I wanted to bring this to your attention, and it would ideal if something could be done to stop this individual before his actions proceed in blowing up tremendously.

Thank you so much for your time, and I appreciate your taking the time to give this email attention.

Regards,

M

I'd also like to add that ironically, I was looking over some of the old emails that Collin sent over the past few weeks. One of the emails was pertaining to the absolute NO NO of having underage anyone on camera. Why? Protection, of course.

How strange, isn't it, that he would still be willing to put them at an even greater risk with this course of action?

TeenageAnnie
11-03-2013, 12:40 PM
is it just me or did he delete the forum posts he made about this?

GinaF
11-03-2013, 12:51 PM
is it just me or did he delete the forum posts he made about this?

Enough people saw it. Posting a screen snap of it would also be pretty helpful. Does anyone have one?

Melonie
11-03-2013, 12:53 PM
This threatens YOUR LIFE, your children, your future employment, your credit history, and your finances!

potentially all too true


If every girl involved in this studio were to be released there is no guarantee that they will be immediately reinstated. Causing them to miss out on money with or without DP. Just what if it's in the best interest of these sites to not do business with any of the parties involved.

also a distinct possibility, at least for some period of time

Not wanting to give DP any 'new' ideas, but ... during the Eurozone 'crackdown' on tax evaders, certain European gov'ts PAID individuals at certain financial institutions for ( illegally ) turning over the personal details of 'clients'. That won't work with the FBI / IRS, though, since the NSA undoubtedly already has ( illegal ? ) access to those personal details !!! In point of fact, it's not technically illegal for the NSA / IRS to access such data on Americans as long as the data source lies outside US borders.

Lady Mondegreen
11-03-2013, 12:58 PM
is it just me or did he delete the forum posts he made about this?

Yeah, I just noticed that too.

Milaa
11-03-2013, 12:58 PM
If you would be released from the AW group right now - you would be released WITH all your credits.
It would only mean you have to wait 3 weeks to get paid before you get paid weekly.

Blovely
11-03-2013, 01:04 PM
well aside from the hacking thing too he went as far as to get into the verified camgirl on the group witch needs a approval process one of witch is the moderator loveshooks to see u on cam and ask a question and give u a codeword answer in order to do this he went as far to get his brothers girlfriend to fake it for him

To my knowledge he never was given access to verified - he requested before he was outed and if I remember correctly we voted and it was a no based on him being a studio - he did send / use photos of his brothers girlfriend

Edited - I was incorrect in my previous statement - PJ was banned for posing a a female - you can read the old threads regarding the hacking and draw your own conclusions - my apologies
If I remember correctly (via hacking) he had access to the user details of a model who was verified. There was also a model in verified who was telling PJ everything that was going on/being said after he was banned. The model who was leaking info ended up getting banned from this forum.





is it just me or did he delete the forum posts he made about this?

Yeah, I just noticed that too.

Or he could've made the thread view-able to members only.

audritwo
11-03-2013, 01:53 PM
Holy shitsnacks!
I am so glad I never signed up with DP. I was debating to, but when I found out it was studio, NOPE.
I just read this entire thread and I'm completely shocked. My heart goes out for anyone on DP. I really hope he doesn't pocket your money, and hit the highroad. I hope everyone can get out of their studio contract. Stay strong ladies. Karma will get him.