View Full Version : Anyone on dailypay you had better read this OMG
Nocturnelle
11-03-2013, 03:41 PM
Woah. This is insane!! So glad I didn't sign up with DP. Be careful ladies.
mariqueen
11-03-2013, 07:10 PM
Woah. This is insane!! So glad I didn't sign up with DP. Be careful ladies.
It's really insane. I don't even want to risk going online to work presently.
What I'm wondering now is if DP will inevitably end up tanking regardless of whether or not there's still those who would like to use the service. And if so, how long it's going to take before DailyPay finally sinks ship for good.
TheBrownFox
11-03-2013, 07:26 PM
I've seen a lot of people mentioning SM daily pay, but I haven't seen any mention of AW daily pay. I've been signed up with AW daily pay for so long that I actually forgot what the regular AW pay schedule is like. I'm gonna head over to that thread now...
LadyLocks
11-03-2013, 07:30 PM
This makes me sick. He obviously has no clue how to 'manage' a business,but what do you expect from a young man who decided he wanted to make a quick buck by becoming an 'online pimp' and who blatantly lied about his own identity in order to sign up more girls to his dailypay group?? I for one wouldn't trust anyone with my sensitive information if they can so readily lie about something so important. I have read multiple threads on the other forums regarding people not being paid or 'mistakes' with pay and I do not for one minute believe that hes not making a profit from the girls earnings (probably in more ways than one!) I understand its very unfair that these girls have not repaid their debt but a good honest businessman who knows what hes doing would not have started such a risky service or at least put some sort of cap on the loan amounts. He should also be able to cope with the pressures of running a business in a more professional manner but its quite obvious he doesn't have the proper skills to do and has displayed alot of immature behaviour in the past. I think there has been alot of shady things come out about this group owner in the past and if i were in the group i would be very worried what could happen to your money and identity if/when this group falls apart.
justanothercamgirl
11-03-2013, 07:56 PM
Um...
So he changed my post to say "I completely support your actions" and posted my email address.
Haha and removed my account.
Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot!
Well, at least we know why all the girls on that forum are taking it so lightly. If they say anything otherwise then their posts are edited.
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LadyLocks
11-03-2013, 08:17 PM
Yes exactly! Though hes managed to get quite afew girls over there to suck up to his ass due to him probably paying them money to refer new members to dailypay and giving them little loans to keep them sweet. Its so awful and abit shocking that some of these girls are either too desperate for their money daily (for whatever reason) to leave the group or some of them could be getting extra £££ for doing something shady for him. Who knows.
justanothercamgirl
11-03-2013, 08:28 PM
The only thing I would like to add is ladies change your passwords!
Is your facebook / email / twitter or whatever account similair or the same as the password on the cam account you have DP on?
Then change all your other passwords just so he does not get any access to it if things would blow up.
Please listen to Milaa whether or not you are currently on DP, but ESPECIALLY if you are DP. Patterns seem to dictate that the hacking of girls accounts (by whoever is doing it) has access to girls DP passwords and are using that password to try access other accounts they may have.
If you use the same password in more than one place CHANGE IT TODAY! If you have problems remembering passwords there are several ways to remember them more easily.
http://lifehacker.com/184773/geek-to-live--choose-and-remember-great-passwords
Using the same password to places that you receive money from is a hacker's wet dream. Be smart and stay safe.
sexysusie
11-03-2013, 08:34 PM
DP has access to the password you give them only, and you can change it as soon as your account is set up and in the system. So they never know what your personal one is. That's certainly the case for AW anyway.
Still the advice about changing it generally is always a good idea. Best not to keep the same password for too long, and NEVER have the same one on multiple sites!
justanothercamgirl
11-03-2013, 08:37 PM
DP has access to the password you give them only, and you can change it as soon as your account is set up and in the system. So they never know what your personal one is. That's certainly the case for AW anyway.
In my own personal experience, when I changed my DP password I was emailed immediately and asked why I changed it.
Tbean
11-03-2013, 08:45 PM
In my own personal experience, when I changed my DP password I was emailed immediately and asked why I changed it.
wow never heard this before, were you asked for the new one?
sexysusie
11-03-2013, 08:48 PM
When was this jac, and what site? I've never been asked and I've left and rejoined several times (always with different passwords) x
LadyLocks
11-03-2013, 08:51 PM
Dailypay group will always know your password unless you have been properly released from the group,something which alot of girls get confused about as they are told when they first join that the group will never know their real password as they can change it. This isn't true as you need to be officially released from the group to regain full control (passwords included) over your profile and will most definitely need to change it once you have left the group.
sexysusie
11-03-2013, 08:56 PM
I'm intrigued how you know so much about DP new guest?
justanothercamgirl
11-03-2013, 09:02 PM
When was this jac, and what site? I've never been asked and I've left and rejoined several times (always with different passwords) x
I hope you don't mind if I don't share too many details with you. It is obvious by your many supportive posts of both Colin & DP in the past on the board that you'd have his best interest in mind over my own.
I don't mean that in a rude or cruel way. I just rather not give anyone who is friendly with a man who just threaten a bunch of camgirl's with blackmail and extortion a chance to learn any more details about me.
I can tell you in my own personal experience when I changed my password on DP I was emailed immediately and asked why. That is all I am willing to say in public and if I truly had any smarts or self preservation I wouldn't of said it at all. ;)
justanothercamgirl
11-03-2013, 09:06 PM
wow never heard this before, were you asked for the new one?
Yes I was.
justanothercamgirl
11-03-2013, 09:13 PM
I have my OWN interests at heart above anyone else's!
Me too, bb. Me too.
LadyLocks
11-03-2013, 09:25 PM
I've cammed for quite a while, been active on afew of the adultwork related forums and i have afew friends who are members of DP,really hoping things don't get any worse for their sake. I've never been in here much as i'm not sure how private it is? x
Cam_Model_Jess
11-03-2013, 09:30 PM
Not private at all.
LadyLocks
11-03-2013, 09:35 PM
Well i personally think the camming section (especially) should be private then girls would be abit more relaxed to post freely.
HaydenBlue
11-03-2013, 09:39 PM
Well i personally think the camming section (especially) should be private then girls would be abit more relaxed to post freely.
that is why we have verified
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showpost.php?p=2180033&postcount=1
JaneBurgess
11-03-2013, 09:57 PM
No, it should be reported to any site he works with. His actions are illegal and he doesn't deserve to have a studio with any web cam site. Cam performers don't need to be abused or worried about their personal info posted online.
You guys should try to stay calm and maybe hold off on the emailing the sites. I'm sure its already been done. But this could backfire in a major way. Yes what he is doing is fucked up but what if the swift solution from AW and SM is to wash their hands of everyone involved? Think about it. AW is already very strict on who they let operate on their site and how they siphon the traffic to different locals. I say be cool and try to ride it out until you can break away. I wish I had better advice to give at the moment. I just think staying calm and keeping a clear head will benefit each of you in the long run. If you have an alternative site that isn't DP then maybe you should start focusing on that for a bit? You know instead of being in this guys pocket for money you may not get. We already see what happens when people loose their shit and go crazy with threats. That guy is probably scrambling right now to cover his ass.
TheBrownFox
11-03-2013, 11:17 PM
Well i personally think the camming section (especially) should be private then girls would be abit more relaxed to post freely.
That's a nice thought, but as Hayden mentioned there is a Verified Group section of the forum where verified models can post more freely without lurkers reading everything.
Also, if people are making StripperWeb references on other forums (and Twitter...type in 'StripperWeb' in the Twitter search box and see how many results come up...it's a lot), then naturally some guys will get curious enough to check this forum out.
mscupcakexo
11-03-2013, 11:35 PM
I DMd vanessa the inhouse SM recruiter about getting my account taken from dp. Vanessa said while I wouldnt be able to keep my same acct, that i can sign up for a new acct once they close mine and can transfer my favs over so my regs will still be able to find me. I am hoping not to lose mare than a few days pay while getting switched over.. Its a good move financially too that extra 5% they take can add up!
Snowy0Star
11-04-2013, 01:21 AM
I DMd vanessa the inhouse SM recruiter about getting my account taken from dp. Vanessa said while I wouldnt be able to keep my same acct, that i can sign up for a new acct once they close mine and can transfer my favs over so my regs will still be able to find me. I am hoping not to lose mare than a few days pay while getting switched over.. Its a good move financially too that extra 5% they take can add up!
can u keep ur name or do u have to change it?
mscupcakexo
11-04-2013, 01:25 AM
she said I would have to change it but it can be super similar, and since she can move hearts/favs over it wont matter that much
Snowy0Star
11-04-2013, 01:33 AM
she said I would have to change it but it can be super similar, and since she can move hearts/favs over it wont matter that much
im really glad SM is working with us performers on this and allowing us to make a clean getaway. girls should not be punished or victimized in any way for trusting someone that has gone off the deep end and taking illegal action to get what he wants
Milaa
11-04-2013, 04:19 AM
I emailed AW with the issue and they just sent me back a shitty copy paste thing about asking the group member to release me.
I'm not in the DP group... but I do want them to take action since he might keep personal details of every girl that ever signed up on DP.
It would help if other girls would contact AW too!
As for your password on AW, I just checked.
Made a group myself and there is an option "log in as" you don't need a password to get in there the AW system does that for you.
A group manager can also change the password without being asked for the old password.
So unless you are released, changing the password doesn't really help.
As a group member you can also see the messages that are sent or if there are any new messages.
Also: DP used to have a daily lottery where the winner would win £100.
He did that for a pretty long time.
His DP business must have been so unprofitable that he was giving away £100 every week.
Milaa
11-04-2013, 05:50 AM
He must really be in some financial trouble, because he's asking for a massive christmas competition.
Posted today.
Hi folks. Taking ideas for this years Xmas comp, if you have any post it below please. Last year I think we gave away £1000 cash?
Thanks
Milaa
11-04-2013, 05:52 AM
Here's the link http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=982
LilliB
11-04-2013, 06:09 AM
Wow, this is incredibly timely for me; I was going to sign up for DP today. First off, thanks to bootiebabe for posting this to SW, which is the only way I would have seen it. And thank you, loveshooks, for keeping the details clear.
This just seems entirely fucking unnecessary. There are legal, ethical ways to recover money that is owed to you. No, it might not be as quick and easy as blackmail, but it has the benefit of not being reprehensible on every level. I don't want to be an ass, because I don't know this guy's life, but as a former business owner (granted, a retail business), I tend to believe that if you're the kind of guy who doesn't keep track of accounts payable/receivable, and doesn't check your books for years at a time, You Deserve To Fail. Perhaps with much wailing and rending of garments, but still. DIAF
Several months ago, a friend "hired" me to do some research for her into starting her own payment processor. Ultimately, she decided against pursuing the idea, but I'm thinking (as much as I can while the coffee is still brewing), perhaps this is a good time for the two of us to reexamine the concept. She's probably still not interested, and my own interest is dependent on being of benefit to the sex worker community as a whole, so I dunno. If I did start my own payment services company, I'd need at least another 6-8 months to raise the capital. A studio would be significantly faster/easier to start with, but puts me in ethically questionable space. Could a studio be founded as a nonprofit, or would one have to default to a pledge of being "founded in nonprofit principles?" The Interwebs and I have a date today, I think.
Sorry for threadjacking with my tummy-rumbling, but I can smell blood in the water, and there's a tasty, tasty market share over there...
Nikki_Fox
11-04-2013, 07:03 AM
Regarding verified being safe - you should still use caution when posting anything on the internet even in a private group
Miss_S
11-04-2013, 08:36 AM
Im with DP, never had any issues what so ever!!! Im now slightly scared after reading all this!!! Hmm.. what to do.
Snowy0Star
11-04-2013, 08:41 AM
Im with DP, never had any issues what so ever!!! Im now slightly scared after reading all this!!! Hmm.. what to do.
close ur account because this is the beginning of the end for DP get out now before u lose money when he realizes its the end and falls off the face of the earth with every models money
CurvyWinona
11-04-2013, 08:46 AM
I was thinking about signing up and now i see this thread. it is so shocking and i feel bad for all of dp users. i really hope you all get everyone the message - GET OUT. Fuck this pig. I think it is best to use the payments by the cam sites, not third party. Losing some more money only to get more screwed in the ass in the end and that really sucks. It was already a red flag when MFC terminated DP service.
I know that it was a luxury to get paid daily, but I think it is an easy way to blow all that money you worked hard for.
catgirl
11-04-2013, 09:20 AM
Where did you contact Vanessa? On twitter?
Or can somebody kindly give me her email address, I cannot find it and need to get my SM account off of DP ASAP.
Has anybody tried to email him today to get him to release their account?? If so- any success/stories? I have a few things on DP and want to close these accounts immediately, any info/updates is appreciated! :) Thank you
GinaF
11-04-2013, 11:11 AM
SUCCESS! Thank you ladies for emailing Liz! Here is the reply I have received from her just now:
"Thank you for your message.
We are aware of the current situation with the DailyPay service. While we have no control over their actions, we support the privacy of Streamate models.
If you wish to be moved from the DailyPay service, we will grant this request immediately. You will be moved to an account directly linked to Streamate. You will then be paid weekly by Streamate directly by the payment method you choose in your account (check/wire/Payoneer). At any point if you wish to move back to DailyPay, this request can also be granted. If you are moved from DailyPay, your account will maintain all current settings/statuses. Any earnings up to the date of the move will still be processed by DailyPay as we are unable to move earnings stats.
If this is something you wish to do, please contact support.
Thank you
Liz
Streamatemodels.com"
Thank you all for taking the time to listen to me =)
GinaF
11-04-2013, 11:12 AM
Pornlaw also responded to my message I sent at the same time I emailed Liz.
"If he releases any names please let me know. I think its a bluff.
But if he threatens it again I have someone that can take the
issue directly to them.
Michael"
This is great news =)
TeenageAnnie
11-04-2013, 11:25 AM
why are people saying that he doesnt have dp on mfc. because he does have dp on mfc. its on his website that says there "mfc is available but no for USA girls"
GinaF
11-04-2013, 11:28 AM
why are people saying that he doesnt have dp on mfc. because he does have dp on mfc. its on his website that says there "mfc is available but no for USA girls"
That's right. As someone already pointed out in this thread, he does not have MyFreeCams for US girls and all of them were dropped without warning one day because they are required to issue 1099s. Canadian girls too I believe. I suspect the same thing will eventually happen with his Streamate studio one day too with the US girls when the IRS finally cracks their whip! Be careful girls. Especially if you are a US cam girl in a studio. The laws are strict in the US and the IRS hasn't caught onto how studios work or else 1099s would be required to be sent to US girls regardless.
CurvyWinona
11-04-2013, 11:39 AM
woooo that is a great news!! i am glad to see that liz will grant the requests!
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that is you, DP.
kortneykay
11-04-2013, 12:56 PM
I didn't know that after 3 weeks held pay on AW, you would be paid weekly. Had I known this, I wouldn't have signed up for DP. I only chose DP because I thought AW only sent money out once a month.
Milaa
11-04-2013, 01:15 PM
Nope.
Just like SM they hold the money for 3 weeks and then you get paid weekly.
You only need 30 credits to get paid.
They sometimes even pay a day early, I always have my transfers on monday even though the website says they will transfer it on tuesdays.
British_nikki_
11-04-2013, 01:45 PM
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not the thread for op-ed opining
audritwo
11-04-2013, 01:50 PM
^^ obviously trying to poke a bear with a stick. Ignore.
HaydenBlue
11-04-2013, 01:52 PM
lol ^ ignore her (british nikki) girls. we've done a great job of keeping this thread 8 pages without dissolving into a fight.
now we have awesome news from SM and PornLaw. Lookin' good for the girls on DP to get out without a scratch. :)
ConnyLove
11-04-2013, 02:09 PM
That's right. As someone already pointed out in this thread, he does not have MyFreeCams for US girls and all of them were dropped without warning one day because
Sorry but it's not true. I'm not trying to defend Prince Jenny but he gave 1 week notice, he sent emails to all the US girls and they didn't have to change their accounts, so no one was dropped without a warning . He must be the most hated man in the webcam industry right now, but I don't think that is right to start posting things that are not true.
Angeliqua
11-04-2013, 02:13 PM
So glad I checked the SW forums today...I was about ready to sign up with this service. I was looking through the forums over there and noticed some really rude comments from admin and thought I would check in here to make sure all was running smoothly. Any other daily pay services available?
ConnyLove
11-04-2013, 02:24 PM
Naked.com can pay you daily though a card, the fee is $10 or $15 , I can't remember well. Some girls said that they were not getting their money the very next day, you can read about it on the naked.com thread
HaydenBlue
11-04-2013, 02:33 PM
Im with DP, never had any issues what so ever!!! Im now slightly scared after reading all this!!! Hmm.. what to do.
I'd get out now. Colin has lost his mind. Who knows what he'll do to the girls who stay...
Teagan_Chase
11-04-2013, 02:46 PM
Nope.
Just like SM they hold the money for 3 weeks and then you get paid weekly.
You only need 30 credits to get paid.
They sometimes even pay a day early, I always have my transfers on monday even though the website says they will transfer it on tuesdays.
On SM if you ask Vanessa she can usually change the 3 week delay to just a week. I think especially in this case with what DP has done she'd do all she can to help anyone move over.
Just thought anyone who may be waiting to move over cause of the delay should know that. It can be waived.