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indiegirl
11-17-2021, 08:52 AM
I'm debating between a deposit or a cancellation fee.

Deposit Pro: I know I will be compensated for something regardless if they flake.
Cancellation Fee: Not guaranteed they will pay it and ghost me or just never see me again to avoid it.
Charging a deposit or cancellation fee: They will find someone else who won't charge them.
Not charging: I get screwed out of money and they get to walk away like nothing happened

I legit backed down from 2 appointments at 1am and another around 2-ish to make sure I was ready this morning waking up at 5am for these 2 customers this morning and one got "held up at work" at 7:46am. Please. No, you weren't at work this early. Your appointment is at 9:45.. I hope this second customer goes through so I can make my money back and just stay home. I want a day or two off. I'm getting really sick of gambling and paying on expensive rooms, food, apparently they've been charging me internet for 18 bucks, late checkouts, getting all dolled up, and ubers making nothing these past 2 times I've tried to work. And I had 4 days of no commitments, ghosting, or last minute cancellations. Meh. I'm worried I'm running out of customers again or since I post a lot that it is not appealing.

kimbe
11-17-2021, 09:12 AM
Some dude approached me while I was on my way to the grocery store. We chatted, seemed ok and we exchanged numbers. He tells me right off the bat he's looking for a relationship and not sex. The only date idea he came up with was either his or my place though...yup he wasn't looking for sex 🙄 I told him nope, not gonna happen. He hasn't responded lol

I find that strange behavior after first have approached you. I mean this guy had the initiative but then it just faded away :-\

indiegirl
11-17-2021, 09:55 AM
I find that strange behavior after first have approached you. I mean this guy had the initiative but then it just faded away :-\

Could've been reverse psychology. "I'm not looking for sex. I just want to go on a date" trying to come across as prince charming, ultimately making you want him to have sex with him because he's "different". But you flat out saying it's not gonna happen kinda broke his goal LOLLL.

carmen_b
11-17-2021, 10:32 AM
^ Possible ! Damn who the hell knows. It is not that hard to plan a date.

carmen_b
11-17-2021, 10:33 AM
Indie : I think a small deposit / gift ahead of an appt might help.
You could always start pretty small to reserve a time and see if they will pay it.
If they do great, if not you can circle back and offer a time without one maybe " just this once " .
Getting something up front even if it's a little may ease your mind . It's hard to tell what customers will do.

indiegirl
11-17-2021, 10:53 AM
Indie : I think a small deposit / gift ahead of an appt might help.
You could always start pretty small to reserve a time and see if they will pay it.
If they do great, if not you can circle back and offer a time without one maybe " just this once " .
Getting something up front even if it's a little may ease your mind . It's hard to tell what customers will do.

I wish I could ask for at least 200 just so it would cover the hotel room. But women have lowered the bar over the years and this half hour shit never used to be around on high end sites. It sucks when they act so excited and bail like this was not paid for for them.

I posted twice trying to test if anyone would respond on the cheap site for 500 an hour and it went radio silent from people I've seen before. Apparently I'm worth the cost of a strip club room in their eyes because others will lower themselves to doing like 120-180. *eyeroll*

Things were going so good on this site. I panic and don't want another repeat of the cheap site leaving with nothing all the time.

carmen_b
11-17-2021, 11:40 AM
^ I could never get the deposit thing to flow with my massage offerings ( two personas the 2nd which would massage in states of undress ha ). I would just stay in the vicinity of the hotels ( in this tourist heavy area ).
My vanilla persona had incall but my 2nd one was outcall only.

Any time with a lady should require an advance gift .
It’s a bummer it isn’t standard .

I just mitigated the time wasting by never leaving the main tourist area 90% of the time and double booking myself knowing some would flake. I’d book a guy like 45 min after guy #1 had an hour time for example and then just risk it hoping he would wait 20 min for me or even be running late himself ( if he didn’t flake ).

indiegirl
11-17-2021, 12:03 PM
^ I could never get the deposit thing to flow with my massage offerings ( two personas the 2nd which would massage in states of undress ha ). I would just stay in the vicinity of the hotels ( in this tourist heavy area ).
My vanilla persona had incall but my 2nd one was outcall only.

Any time with a lady should require an advance gift .
It’s a bummer it isn’t standard .

I just mitigated the time wasting by never leaving the main tourist area 90% of the time and double booking myself knowing some would flake. I’d book a guy like 45 min after guy #1 had an hour time for example and then just risk it hoping he would wait 20 min for me ( if he didn’t flake ).

I heard massages are very last minute appointments and girls just answer the phone and screening is hard? I'm not able to double book nowadays since I'm not fresh on the site. I joined in like March-April.

I've officially been stood up again and it cost me 650 total for the last two times I've booked nice hotels and been ghosted or cancelled on because of some BS these customers spewed my way. I'm angry and heading home. But I guarantee....once I arrive home some man is gonna contact me saying "sorry just saw this." or "available now?" Or the one who didn't even show up yesterday and acted back and forth after I confirmed only to have plenty of time but only 200 dollars on him for HHR ( so sorry he went through his money that he couldn't afford me after I double confirmed the price).....GIRLLL I fucking am done with a 4 star. Y'all get a motel 6. Enjoy.

And I cancelled the one at 1am even though I wanted the money and was thinking of the 9:45am appointment as well because I specifically write NO GREEK. He tried to convince me he was small in messages. *eyeroll*

I have a home I can relax at not a nice hotel to waste my money fucking your last minute/cheap asses. Enjoy your experience you earned men. Treat me bad it goes hand in hand.

Last rant: If you want quality service, I expect quality payment. The END. It's prolly break time. I get more respect from my dogs than these men.

Update: I posted a 200 dollar deposit to test it out. I'm just legitimately pissed I've wasted this money when I could've stayed home twice and 4 days of nothing. I even had that gut feeling both wouldn't show up this morning and sure enough they didn't.

carmen_b
11-17-2021, 12:45 PM
^ Potentially you could place massage ads too .
Obviously lower risk / lower reward types of numbers though .
The massage persona could just be a back up type of option if people to see if your full service guys didn't come through and your hotel is sitting there wasting $ .

I'll see if there are other brainstorming ideas that come up ......

Have you ever tried an AMP ? I ask because the " get them in the door " cost is more minimal but then you have a space to work with at a little less cost than a hotel. I don't think you could do full service comfortably for obvious reasons but it could even be possible to do more " light " sessions with new people. Then you can offer just the ones you like a more extended menu to be enjoyed at a later time.

Anyway sorry you have a phase of FLAKES . Yuck Yuck Yuck.

I have noticed one provider category that you see deposits on more often.
Dominant ladies will often get away with charging one !

ravenskyy
11-17-2021, 12:50 PM
I've been having pregnancy symptoms for the past week. My period is due in 2 weeks and I've been on the pill since January, with 0 issues. My last period was the lightest I've ever had, but this pill has made my periods super light anyway. I doubt that I'm pregnant but omg, if my body doesn't do a GREAT job of making me stress out about it. UGH!

lilylilylily
11-17-2021, 12:57 PM
LOL he couldn't even suggest the movies etc. LOL did he ever respond back?

Nope, he knows I'm on to him, I was very blunt and told him if that's all you can come up with it's obvious you just want sex.By him stating right away hes not looking for sex without me even asking tells me that's all this loser wanted. He was even getting impatient when we were texting, like he didn't want to get to know me, he thought I would be happy to go to his place for a "date"

lilylilylily
11-17-2021, 01:07 PM
Could've been reverse psychology. "I'm not looking for sex. I just want to go on a date" trying to come across as prince charming, ultimately making you want him to have sex with him because he's "different". But you flat out saying it's not gonna happen kinda broke his goal LOLLL.

This. I felt like he was trying to charm me when we met, saying, "I love to take care of women" He offered to help me grocery shop and wait for me while I did my groceries so he could give me a lift home. I told him thanks that wasn't necessary (he was probably hoping to get me in his car and go to his place) ugh

carmen_b
11-17-2021, 01:07 PM
^ Ew. So disgusting. I'm so glad you called him out on it in an up front way.
You could have avoided a dangerous situation for sure getting in the car ect. !
There is no way I'd go to someones house until a few public dates AND proper time to Google them and FB / IG stalk !

He clearly doesn't give a damn about your comfort and safety so that is a good number to lose.

lilylilylily
11-17-2021, 01:22 PM
Yep! Cheap, lazy dudes. Think we are gonna fall for their "charms"

indiegirl
11-17-2021, 01:38 PM
^ Potentially you could place massage ads too .
Obviously lower risk / lower reward types of numbers though .
The massage persona could just be a back up type of option if people to see if your full service guys didn't come through and your hotel is sitting there wasting $ .

I'll see if there are other brainstorming ideas that come up ......

Have you ever tried an AMP ? I ask because the " get them in the door " cost is more minimal but then you have a space to work with at a little less cost than a hotel. I don't think you could do full service comfortably for obvious reasons but it could even be possible to do more " light " sessions with new people. Then you can offer just the ones you like a more extended menu to be enjoyed at a later time.

Anyway sorry you have a phase of FLAKES . Yuck Yuck Yuck.

I have noticed one provider category that you see deposits on more often.
Dominant ladies will often get away with charging one !

I've seen people post AMP on here. Is that a term for massage parlor?

carmen_b
11-17-2021, 01:58 PM
Yes Asian massage parlor.
Some massages occur and some “ more “ occurs .
Once you have your customer in the room the two of you negotiate from there ....

There is a bit of an art to it ha.

OH I'M ADDING THIS : One bonus too is that if your customer doesn't show you won't get charged for the room. You only pay the room fee when you actually use the room.

carmen_b
11-17-2021, 02:00 PM
Typical etiquette between ladies is “ you mind your business and I’ll mind mine “.
The way in the door is saying you have your own customers usually .

miss.a.p1600
11-17-2021, 02:35 PM
L is trying to bring back artifacts from his dead moms house.

Her cane (wtf?!?)

Um sir leave that shit there. I don’t want a dead woman’s cane in my house.

Fucking old ass cookware that we have no space for and doesn’t match anything.

Then he says he has to pick up his son from school. And was like “he might want to come over” …… um did we plan for him to come over? Because I will disappear on your ass if you keep randomly bringing your loud ass kids here. You better turn your car around and drop them off where they belong……with their mom.

I purposely only buy healthy foods I know they don’t like so I am the only one that will enjoy my food purchases unless I planned in advance to shop n cook and L paid for the groceries.

Gawd

miss.a.p1600
11-17-2021, 03:02 PM
L is pissing me off constantly talking about having a baby.

Mf. Until YOU are ready to risk your life n body for another human, and until you have some money in the bank for a baby fund, stop fucking talking about this shit.

No and No!!!!!

whirlerz
11-17-2021, 03:06 PM
LOL^!!!
Lmao Ms P .

Just now saw about the baby.. Hell to no

So today, was texting w/upstairs hottie, we talked about mice getting in, which they do, since we're in middle of 2 overgrown lots.. + the house being a dump..(I edited, the place won't blow up due to natural gas leaks lol.)

However, the wiring in the back house (its empty) .
could prove to be dangerous, o well.

miss.a.p1600
11-17-2021, 03:10 PM
L said his son was like “Dad! I’m coming over your house the ENTIRE week n a half of Thanksgiving break”

And testing me for my response.

Boy! I do NOT want your loud ass needy kids here for any more than 2 days in a week.

Stop bringing up conversations hoping I’m going to give some Stepford wives answer. Because I’m not.

I seriously think Bertha is trying to push her kids off the entire thanksgiving break so she doesn’t have 2 extra mouths to feed for a week.

Le sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whirlerz
11-17-2021, 03:25 PM
Tell him they can stay a day or 2, (each week ONLY), if that's what you want, Ms P!

Of course, she's trying to foist em off!

miss.a.p1600
11-17-2021, 04:05 PM
Thanks Whirl!

Gotta stay strong n not be guilt tripped into anything

SamanthaSugar
11-17-2021, 04:42 PM
This week the money Gods are having zero mercy on my soul. Camming blows and both of my vanilla hustles are sucking ass. Hopefully this is just a glitch cz when money isn’t coming in I start to panic and down the rabbit hole I go!

TheBrownFox
11-17-2021, 04:52 PM
This week the money Gods are having zero mercy on my soul. Camming blows and both of my vanilla hustles are sucking ass. Hopefully this is just a glitch cz when money isn’t coming in I start to panic and down the rabbit hole I go!

Yeah, it's been BAD! I even jumped on dead-ass ManyVids Live yesterday, and was on there for 8 1/2 hours trying to win that damn token giveaway. Lol. And not a single person tipped, but I did have one guy buy two of my videos.

chanzep
11-17-2021, 06:13 PM
Ugh I have a upset stomach

charlie61
11-17-2021, 06:42 PM
L is pissing me off constantly talking about having a baby.

Mf. Until YOU are ready to risk your life n body for another human, and until you have some money in the bank for a baby fund, stop fucking talking about this shit.

No and No!!!!!

It honestly sounds so desperate, like he's trying to nail you down for life. Omg. Red flag...

JGB2009
11-17-2021, 08:18 PM
I have never told you how much you annoy me but you do!!!!!

whirlerz
11-17-2021, 08:34 PM
L is trying to bring back artifacts from his dead moms house.

Her cane (wtf?!?)

Um sir leave that shit there. I don’t want a dead woman’s cane in my house.

Fucking old ass cookware that we have no space for and doesn’t match anything.

Then he says he has to pick up his son from school. And was like “he might want to come over” …… um did we plan for him to come over? Because I will disappear on your ass if you keep randomly bringing your loud ass kids here. You better turn your car around and drop them off where they belong……with their mom.

I purposely only buy healthy foods I know they don’t like so I am the only one that will enjoy my food purchases unless I planned in advance to shop n cook and L paid for the groceries.

Gawd

Love this, "only buy healthy food..."

miss.a.p1600
11-17-2021, 08:54 PM
It honestly sounds so desperate, like he's trying to nail you down for life. Omg. Red flag...

hell naw!

i see how easily men get off ditching kids n the kids moms all the time.

I’d leave him and the baby and move to another state and work in cash only at the strip club so I wouldn’t be forced to pay child support.

But seriously though I do think he is going through something in his life and “having a baby” would not only be his guarantee to be married to me but also a sense of accomplishment for him.

Unbeknownst to him there will be no baby at this current time.

I will be the first customer of the day ordering plan b or in the abortion clinic (if those sociopathic men haven’t closed them all down)

miss.a.p1600
11-17-2021, 09:04 PM
Interesting.

Now that he’s getting the point I don’t want his kids popping up, he decides to hang out with them after school……at Berthas house.

Why is he going to be all up in her house? Can’t he take them to the library, the park, the movies. Why is his destination always the damn house?

whirlerz
11-17-2021, 09:45 PM
Default, I guess, & it's ez? ^

TheBrownFox
11-17-2021, 11:01 PM
L is pissing me off constantly talking about having a baby.

Mf. Until YOU are ready to risk your life n body for another human, and until you have some money in the bank for a baby fund, stop fucking talking about this shit.

No and No!!!!!


As unhappy as you are in your current situation with him, he's expecting you to have a baby with him?!

miss.a.p1600
11-18-2021, 05:55 AM
^yeah I think he is deluding himself (or I’m great at acting)

Not being on the same page on this issue could in fact be more of a dealbreaker than anything else.

WendiStarr
11-18-2021, 08:57 AM
My mom is apparently posting lies about me on Facebook and trying to get people to feel bad for her for having such a mean daughter who blocked her. I can't see her page since I blocked her but I heard from my brother that that's what she's up to. Uh, you have 7 kids and only 2/7 are on speaking terms with you but everyone else is the problem, huh? I'll just continue keeping her on block.

indiegirl
11-18-2021, 12:17 PM
I just confirmed an appointment with the address sent and no hotel booked for tomorrow. I almost did buy it but stopped myself. 650 dollars your asses screwed me over already this week, do you really think I'm gonna do this again until I book it 1:30 hours before the appointment and I double confirm. The 19th is my last day because I'm actually doing something for Thanksgiving and need a break so I don't show up looking like I'm tired. 6 DAYS off soon! Woohoo!


Good news: I'm on day 2 of my 10 step Korean beauty skin care routine. I stopped doing it a while back and geesh just after day 1 my skin feels so soft, moisturized, and nice!!

whirlerz
11-18-2021, 12:25 PM
I got some stuff from Walmart, including a heater..

I bought a small embroidery hoop, I just went to open it, & a little piece fell off it..

I shouldn't have went to sewing /craft store. PIA/POS!

chanzep
11-18-2021, 05:04 PM
Miss P let him see the kids at her house. He's probably doing it on purpose to see what you say. Say nothing. I don't think he's deluded either I think he thinks he's smart. He's planning to trap you. He sees it as he's known you over a year not upgraded himself but has got you in living with him paying bills , engaged and putting up with him and his kids. All he needs to do is get you pregnant to seal the deal and marry you. He probably thinks of you were leaving him you would of already. He's very comfortable but needs you pregnant to lock it down. Then he has a good woman who's not broke .

chanzep
11-18-2021, 05:08 PM
Today was such a long day. Then my printer is broken since my ex used in the summer smh. My apartment also took out the business center I had to beg them to print a form. I hope I can fix printer because I have to print out labels to return my old job stuff.

Aurora_Sunset
11-18-2021, 06:01 PM
My friend just told me she left her cat alone for 2 straight weeks while she was on vacation. Wtf? She was like "I put out 15 bowls of food for him and a huge bowl of water." Like... yeah, the cat probably won't die. But good god, the litter box? That stagnant water is gonna be nasty after a few days. Or just socialization... Cats miss their owners too. I've had cats my whole life, and I get that they're more low maintenance than dogs, so you can leave them alone for a few days, but I don't understand why so many people think that they can just be left alone for weeks on end with no problems. It's cruel.

I know this friend has plenty of money too. There was literally no excuse to not pay a pet sitter to stop by at least a couple times a week.

JGB2009
11-18-2021, 06:10 PM
^^^^
Poor Kitty :-(

chanzep
11-18-2021, 07:08 PM
Poor cat.

chanzep
11-18-2021, 07:14 PM
Imagine talking to someone for advice on fixing something, then they ask you stuff then they tell you about stupid stuff they are doing going against your advice and putting themselves in danger smh. After a long day already I'm super drained now.

lynn2009
11-18-2021, 10:30 PM
That poor cat is going to be traumatized.

miss.a.p1600
11-19-2021, 06:33 AM
Imagine talking to someone for advice on fixing something, then they ask you stuff then they tell you about stupid stuff they are doing going against your advice and putting themselves in danger smh. After a long day already I'm super drained now.

That’s why therapists cost good money.

It is draining listening to peoples life challenges. So when people go against good advice at least you get paid for the drain of energy.

Marina Starr
11-19-2021, 11:53 AM
Not guilty on all counts. Absolutely disgusting!

https://i.ibb.co/5BPN7xW/smh-madea.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

LoveyD
11-19-2021, 02:33 PM
I am mad about the cat too.

miss.a.p1600
11-19-2021, 02:47 PM
L's brother called me, I didn't answer.

Then 2 seconds later L called me, I didn't answer.

I told him I was in bathroom so I could call him back when *I* was ready.

Then he texts back talking about "it's an emergency" n saying he 'needed something' in what I interpret to be rude tone of text.

Yeah unless you are DYING it's not an emergency. So whatever it is ..... be a man a figure a way to solve your own problems first without 'needing' me.

Good thing I didn't answer cause I think he wanted me to pick up his son so he wouldn't have to leave from work (halfway across town) then drive back.

Um NO!!!! I never agreed to pick up Bertha's kids. That bitch chose to enroll her kids at a school (3rd school in less than 6 months btw) with no fucking bus so he has to walk through the hood. And chose to work a job after her kids get out of school. IDGAF if the school is 5 min away n only 20 min out of my day. Thats interrupting my day to solve Bertha and Your problem.

If you scared for your son to walk through the hood to his house, then I'm scared to drive through that mf.

NO and NO!!!!!

carmen_b
11-19-2021, 03:42 PM
^ Yeah disorganization is NOT an emergency. Good for you for screening that call haha.

I think the son will be fine. No one in the hood wants an extra kid. They can barely take care of what they have going on.

miss.a.p1600
11-19-2021, 05:37 PM
Idk what his problem is but I hope the universe jolts some sense into him.

Until then I’m enjoying Christmas music n Black Friday shopping.