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JGB2009
09-22-2014, 08:25 PM
When is the starting and ending for the pay period on here?

RaineyLane
09-22-2014, 08:35 PM
^^^ Pay period ends Tuesday at 11:59pm.


Mrtrim: i heard but you started the message

LMAO one of you told him I posted about him on here. I did and he is a douche and you can tell him I will continue to block him. He doesn't tip or buy shows and he is plain rude. If you like him, keep him in your room.

Mrtrim: look forward to talking again when you feel better

He stated that after I told him I had zero interest in ever chatting with him again. He doesn't seem to understand he is annoying and cam sites are not just free chat sites.

MrTrim is a total douche! I think he WANTS free humiliation so I don't talk shit anymore. I just ban him and don't even mention him and he will leave.

Alylondon
09-22-2014, 10:12 PM
Do you think the princess/brat personalty do well on this site?

anoncamgirl
09-23-2014, 12:02 AM
Do you think the princess/brat personalty do well on this site?

To be honest, this is the only form of domination I'm good at and I don't do that well on the site (especially compared to come of the other girls, sheesh). I'm sure it could work out if you brought a lot of regulars from another site or did Twitter/Tumblr/Clips4Sale promotion on the side, though.

EDIT: I just wanted to add that it seems like guys don't take the Princess/bratty girl Domme as seriously as they should. They seem to get confused. I get guys asking if I'm submissive every five minutes because they don't seem to grasp the concept. This is very true if you're younger, it seems the site is geared for older Dommes. I'm sure you could give it a shot, though!

SophieL
09-23-2014, 04:22 AM
If you're concerned about it, I would really recommend that you look into joining a credit union. You're a shareholder at a CU and they don't discriminate like the big banks. http://www.xbiz.com/news/178172

I live in a small town and there are not any close by that I know of other then my former employer. :(

SimoneGray
09-23-2014, 04:28 AM
What are good starting rates to charge on there for group/pvt? Is it the paying clientele like the ones on SM or are they cheaper?

newbie0667
09-23-2014, 04:28 AM
I've heard they got hit pretty hard by the condom rule out in cali.

SimoneGray
09-23-2014, 04:41 AM
Also, is it mandatory to have a ton of PVC and Latex clothing to succeed there? I am by no means vanilla and I will happily indulge all their awesome fantasies but I currently don't have the money to invest in a ton of fetish gear. I'm sure the money for this will come, I'm just not there yet.

passionflower
09-23-2014, 07:15 AM
I'm also wondering about what a good rate would be. I did well my first 2 weeks there - though I probably only put in around 6 actual nights - at around 3.99/4.99 before it died for me. I think that was around the time they were doing a big push for new girls at 60%. It could have been that I got fed up with freeloaders too.

I don't want to go back and undercut the going rate but the 60% payout makes it tempting to go lower just to stay busier. Sitting around being bored and talking to freeloaders is the kiss of death for me.

It got so bad that I'm thinking about starting some "hang out" play sessions for $1-$3 with maybe tits out. If they want to talk dirty or see more have they have to tip. At the very least I hope it will keep out the true freeloaders.

JaneBurgess
09-23-2014, 02:28 PM
I just thought it was hilarious that some pathetic performer tells him what we say on here.




^^^ Pay period ends Tuesday at 11:59pm.



MrTrim is a total douche! I think he WANTS free humiliation so I don't talk shit anymore. I just ban him and don't even mention him and he will leave.

SoloDesire
09-23-2014, 04:28 PM
I had MrTrim for the first time today lol. He just made a lame comment about me split camming (he heard me say "tip 5 gold" on SM). I ignored him after a few comments and he went away lol.

Magical_Hoohah
09-23-2014, 04:34 PM
I've expressed frustration with KL and splitting before, but it seems to be getting worse, and I wonder if anyone else is having better luck.

My problem is that the KL guys - even the ones that take you private - seem to want to sit around and chat forever beforehand. However, when I'm splitting, I don't have that kind of time because I'll get snatched away to private on another site. At first, I thought that if they saw me disappear over and over, they'd take the hint and go private quicker. That hasn't happened, and now a few people have started whining about it ("I guess you don't want to go private with me, considering how much time you're spending on break." or "Are you having technical problems? Why do you keep going away?"). I realize that that behavior is good cause for banning the individuals, but I'm clearly doing a terrible job training these guys.

I don't think I'm allowed to just announce that I'm splitting, but I want these guys to realize that if they don't take me private, someone else (on another site) will. My only idea is to wait as long as humanly possible before hitting "break" in the hopes that they'll figure out what's up. Is anyone doing better with training the KL guys? Any tips?

JaneBurgess
09-23-2014, 05:10 PM
You are allowed to say you split cam. I flat out tell them I split cam and cam shows are first come first serve. We aren't paid to sit in free chat and talk for hours. They also know what a cam site is, I think most are broke and can't afford cam shows. I get annoyed it's always the same people all the time,, like they never have fresh traffic.



I've expressed frustration with KL and splitting before, but it seems to be getting worse, and I wonder if anyone else is having better luck.

My problem is that the KL guys - even the ones that take you private - seem to want to sit around and chat forever beforehand. However, when I'm splitting, I don't have that kind of time because I'll get snatched away to private on another site. At first, I thought that if they saw me disappear over and over, they'd take the hint and go private quicker. That hasn't happened, and now a few people have started whining about it ("I guess you don't want to go private with me, considering how much time you're spending on break." or "Are you having technical problems? Why do you keep going away?"). I realize that that behavior is good cause for banning the individuals, but I'm clearly doing a terrible job training these guys.

I don't think I'm allowed to just announce that I'm splitting, but I want these guys to realize that if they don't take me private, someone else (on another site) will. My only idea is to wait as long as humanly possible before hitting "break" in the hopes that they'll figure out what's up. Is anyone doing better with training the KL guys? Any tips?

SimoneGray
09-23-2014, 06:12 PM
with regards to skype shows, how does one take payment through KL for those?

Magical_Hoohah
09-23-2014, 06:20 PM
^^ They can send you a tribute. When they send you a regular email message, there's a place where they can attach $$ (which is one of my favorite features). Have them send a tribute for the amount you want, and then you handle the Skype bit on Skype (duh, lol).

ETA: They can also tip you the amount in free chat, which might be nice, since I think everyone else in the room would see it and (hopefully) be impressed.

JaneBurgess
09-23-2014, 07:18 PM
I have them tribute for Skype id and show.



with regards to skype shows, how does one take payment through KL for those?

SimoneGray
09-23-2014, 07:22 PM
It is pretty slow..but having said that I have made more in a few mins than I ever did on SM. I will be sad to lose my 60% though wow. Although 40% won't suck either.

JaneBurgess
09-23-2014, 08:12 PM
I think I am only going to do this site occasionally until they actually start to do major marketing. It's never super busy and I'm tired of the exact same freeloaders every time I log in. I cam to make money, not be bored out of my mind. Good luck to you that cam on there.

SimoneGray
09-23-2014, 08:22 PM
^^ I can't see it being a bread and butter site...but I can see it being a nice occasional site where you can get pleasantly surprised with the amount of money you make. I will have to invest more in it due to leaving SM, but I am hoping it will pay off for me.

JaneBurgess
09-23-2014, 08:29 PM
I was doing it as a second or third site, but it's slow a lot compared to other sites. The customers want to talk forever in free chat and mostly don't buy shows. It's to the point where I feel like it's a waste of time. It's great when you're new but after that it's boring.



^^ I can't see it being a bread and butter site...but I can see it being a nice occasional site where you can get pleasantly surprised with the amount of money you make. I will have to invest more in it due to leaving SM, but I am hoping it will pay off for me.

SophieL
09-23-2014, 08:34 PM
It definitely needs more traffic. I have been doing KL on one computer and SM on another. I seem to stay on break a lot on KL. When the shows do come they are nice and long usually but no way could I sit there between customer's for as long as one has to if this were my only site. I had a great hour on there last then then crickets.... in the meantime I missed one of my good regulars on SM. It would be nice if both sites had a "nude chat" button to click rather then having to fill out the lengthy gold/play session box and wait for countdown.

SimoneGray
09-23-2014, 08:40 PM
I think the one thing that bums me out is the payment tier system...with the site being as slow as it is I feel like it may be impossible to go back to 60% once your 30 days ends. That is the one thing I find discouraging. But...I will press on and try have as good an attitude as I can. Right now this is one of the only options I have, so I need to make it work for myself somehow.

h0ttie
09-23-2014, 08:54 PM
I've expressed frustration with KL and splitting before, but it seems to be getting worse, and I wonder if anyone else is having better luck.

My problem is that the KL guys - even the ones that take you private - seem to want to sit around and chat forever beforehand. However, when I'm splitting, I don't have that kind of time because I'll get snatched away to private on another site. At first, I thought that if they saw me disappear over and over, they'd take the hint and go private quicker. That hasn't happened, and now a few people have started whining about it ("I guess you don't want to go private with me, considering how much time you're spending on break." or "Are you having technical problems? Why do you keep going away?"). I realize that that behavior is good cause for banning the individuals, but I'm clearly doing a terrible job training these guys.

I don't think I'm allowed to just announce that I'm splitting, but I want these guys to realize that if they don't take me private, someone else (on another site) will. My only idea is to wait as long as humanly possible before hitting "break" in the hopes that they'll figure out what's up. Is anyone doing better with training the KL guys? Any tips?

yes..they should make it so u have "break mode" or "fake looks like ur in a show but ur really just in a show on another site mode" mfc used to have "away private" where u could splitcam and click that to get spyers when u had another show.

also...if anyone thinks its a good idea you can mail them...some sites actually listen! but 99.8% dont so i prefer to just bitch on stripperweb if they are smart they are reading here anyway lol

SoloDesire
09-24-2014, 09:34 AM
^^^ Pay period ends Tuesday at 11:59pm.





I'm just starting to get used to making a regular paycheck here. So do the pay periods run Wednesdays to Tuesdays weekly? I noticed my pay started over today. And what is the minimum amount for payout on Direct Deposit?

Magical_Hoohah
09-24-2014, 10:39 AM
^^ Yes, the pay period is 12:00am (midnight) Wednesday morning, and ends 11:59pm Tuesday, and it is based on Pacific time. Your earnings screen will reset to $0 for the new pay period, but there's a drop down menu where you can see your earnings for previous pay periods. Interestingly, if you earned $0 in a pay period, that pay period won't show up in your drop down menu (I was alarmed at first that there were missing weeks in my drop down, but it was just because I totally slacked off those weeks).

Payment for each week goes out the day after the pay period ends, which is great compared to pretty much all other sites, which don't send payout for at least a week. That means that your earnings for 9/17-9/23 are being sent out today (Wednesday, 9/24). Usually they seem to arrive in the bank by direct deposit sometime between Thursday and Monday. I'm pretty sure the minimum for direct deposit is $50 if you're in the US. You don't get any form of notification email saying that payment has been sent, so keep an eye on your bank account.

ETA: I was wrong about the minimum to receive payout. It's $50, not $100. I've updated the post.

SoloDesire
09-24-2014, 10:55 AM
^^ Thank you so much! That's exactly what I needed to know :)

Magical_Hoohah
09-24-2014, 11:27 AM
yes..they should make it so u have "break mode" or "fake looks like ur in a show but ur really just in a show on another site mode" mfc used to have "away private" where u could splitcam and click that to get spyers when u had another show.

I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, but it might be possible to do a voyeur "Play Session" when you get a private on another site. I haven't done a Play Session before, so I'm not totally sure. I believe that, unlike a Gold Show, they don't send you back into free chat when the show time is up, so you can stay in there indefinitely.

I think that might work out alright because KL has no place for customers to rate or comment on you, so if they get pissed off because they enter the show without reading the description, there's not a whole lot they can do to hurt you.

Also, if I tried this on SM, I'd be concerned that guys would learn to wait for a voyeur Gold Show and never go private, but I don't think that's a problem on KL. Every customer I've ever had on KL wanted something very specific and personalized, so I don't think spying on someone else's show would do it for the real paying customers on KL. It might, however, get a few bucks off those KL guys that sit around forever in free chat and never go private (I suppose we call them freeloaders, lol).

I might be totally missing something, though. Anyone have any reasons why this would NOT be a good idea? I suppose it might attract a ton of cheapos to sit around in my room all the time, but it's not like I'd be giving anything away for free.

SophieL
09-24-2014, 11:42 AM
I sometimes go into Play Session mode when I get exclusive on SM. But you have to fill out what you are going to do, amt wanted, buy in amt, length of show, and then a minimum 1 minute countdown. So by the time you do all of that the person who already is in paid show on other site can (and does) get tired of waiting for their show. If I know someone is going to go into show ahead of time and what type of show they want I will try to go ahead and start filling all of that out. But waiting for the minute countdown when someone else in already paying seems to take FOREVER. That is one thing I like about Cams. I just type Nude Show in the dialog box and switch it over... no waiting, no description... just simple and easy.

JaneBurgess
09-24-2014, 12:07 PM
I split cam too and I am on break there more than I do shows. I think it could be a good site to split cam with but not enough traffic for an only site. You are right about shows being long once you get one.



It definitely needs more traffic. I have been doing KL on one computer and SM on another. I seem to stay on break a lot on KL. When the shows do come they are nice and long usually but no way could I sit there between customer's for as long as one has to if this were my only site. I had a great hour on there last then then crickets.... in the meantime I missed one of my good regulars on SM. It would be nice if both sites had a "nude chat" button to click rather then having to fill out the lengthy gold/play session box and wait for countdown.

SoloDesire
09-24-2014, 12:09 PM
Yeah, it's a bit hard to get all of that typed out every time you go private on another site. However, when I do Gold Shows on SM I also do Play Sessions on KL. Usually always get at least 1 or 2 that join in after I'm already in the Play Session on KL. So that's nice to have that $ to add on.

SimoneGray
09-24-2014, 07:05 PM
Rather arb question but maybe you ladies can give me advice on this. What type of music is best suited to KL? I mean I did ok on there last night and gained a super loyal person who even found me on Twitter despite my KL and twitter name being totally different, so clearly I am doing something right, but I just wonder, should I be playing more rock/heavy metal for that site?

at the moment I tend to play a very eclectic mix of music but avoid the harder stuff since its really not my thing, but should I do it, just to seem more intense? Still tryna get a real feel of this site.

JaneBurgess
09-24-2014, 08:30 PM
I only play the music I like so I get into it. I am more of an alternative lover, so it fits on there.


Rather arb question but maybe you ladies can give me advice on this. What type of music is best suited to KL? I mean I did ok on there last night and gained a super loyal person who even found me on Twitter despite my KL and twitter name being totally different, so clearly I am doing something right, but I just wonder, should I be playing more rock/heavy metal for that site?

at the moment I tend to play a very eclectic mix of music but avoid the harder stuff since its really not my thing, but should I do it, just to seem more intense? Still tryna get a real feel of this site.

anoncamgirl
09-24-2014, 10:00 PM
I've seen a cruel Mistress be in private for over 2 hours. I know she was playing pop music. Just play whatever works for you.

SophieL
09-25-2014, 04:29 PM
Tried to cash my KL check at a nearby Walmart today but their bank is not of the list the Walmart check cashing company has approved :( Sent message to KL to see what I could do. Really hate to take it to my local bank if I can avoid it.

laurielegs
09-25-2014, 04:38 PM
Tried to cash my KL check at a nearby Walmart today but their bank is not of the list the Walmart check cashing company has approved :( Sent message to KL to see what I could do. Really hate to take it to my local bank if I can avoid it.

I just deposit checks like that at the ATM at my bank. Why even deal with a nosy teller?

SophieL
09-26-2014, 03:57 AM
Hmm... I have not used an ATM for nearly 30 years. I had not even thought of that. I have the phone app for my bank but can't figure out how to do that for deposits..

Magical_Hoohah
09-26-2014, 08:33 AM
I sometimes go into Play Session mode when I get exclusive on SM. But you have to fill out what you are going to do, amt wanted, buy in amt, length of show, and then a minimum 1 minute countdown. So by the time you do all of that the person who already is in paid show on other site can (and does) get tired of waiting for their show. If I know someone is going to go into show ahead of time and what type of show they want I will try to go ahead and start filling all of that out. But waiting for the minute countdown when someone else in already paying seems to take FOREVER. That is one thing I like about Cams. I just type Nude Show in the dialog box and switch it over... no waiting, no description... just simple and easy.

I gave it a try, but I didn't realize that there's no way to skip the countdown and go straight into the show! Too bad - I think otherwise I would be able to do a split-cam voyeur play session. But I really can't twiddle my thumbs for the first whole minute of a private just to avoid showing too much to my KL room during the countdown. Then again... it might be a great exercise for learning to slow down at the beginning of privates. I'll come back to this and try again when I'm having a slower day.

Magical_Hoohah
09-26-2014, 09:00 AM
Hmm... I have not used an ATM for nearly 30 years. I had not even thought of that. I have the phone app for my bank but can't figure out how to do that for deposits..

I'm pretty sure mobile deposit was invented for reclusive cam models, lol! I have a check that I'm about to deposit by mobile deposit, so here's exactly what I'm doing. I really doubt we have the same bank, but it should give you a pretty good idea of how it works. I've done it with another bank, and the process was pretty much exactly the same.

1) Make sure you endorsed your check.
2) Set your check down someplace with good lighting - just like with camming, good lighting is key to this process!
3) Open your banking app and log in.
4) Tap "Mobile Deposit - Deposit a Check"
5) There is a drop down that reads "Select Account to Deposit Into" - tap that
6) Pick the appropriate checking account from the list (I don't know if you can deposit into a savings account at you bank or not).
7) Below the Account field, there is a space that says "Amount to Deposit." Tap it and enter the amount of the check.
8.) Below that, there is a button that says "Take Picture of Check Front - Turn Phone on Side to Capture Image" - tap that button.
9) Your camera should open. There's an outline on the screen, and the instructions say "Front of Check - Keep Check Edges Within Frame"
10) Take a picture of the front of the check. Try to get as close as you can without going outside the lines; try not to block the light or throw shadows on the check (don't get between your light and the check); and try to hold as still as possible to get the clearest possible image.
11) After taking the picture, the screen refreshes, and now you have your camera with the outline, and instructions that say "Back of Check - Keep Check Edges Within Frame." Turn your check over and take the photo of the back side.
12) It goes back to the screen where you put in the account and the check amount, and now it shows the two pictures you took of the check. It also says "Touch an Image to Retake Picture." If you aren't happy with either photo, tap it, and redo the photo.
13) Once you are happy with the photos, tap "Submit Check."
14) If you did it right, there's a popup that says "Your check has been received and is PENDING APPROVAL. It may take up to 1 BUSINESS DAY to reflect in your account. Please retain the check until it has been deposited. Once confirmed, securely destroy the check." Click "OK."
15) Hold onto the check just in case, and check your account the next day to make sure it went through.
16) If you didn't do it properly, you get a different popup saying something about how it didn't work. You can go back and try to take clearer photos, or you can find another method of depositing the check.

Hope that helps (if it doesn't, I also recommend the ATM)!

SophieL
09-26-2014, 11:27 AM
Thanks, I will give that a try.

passionflower
09-27-2014, 09:30 PM
That is one thing I like about Cams. I just type Nude Show in the dialog box and switch it over... no waiting, no description... just simple and easy.

How exactly does this work? Do you mean to type where I normally type to the viewer? I tried that and I nothing. :(

LivHartless
09-29-2014, 12:11 PM
hi! kink live performer here.... for the most profitable porn company in the world, kink sure doesn't seem to care about the safety or wellbeing of their performers. I have been on KL for about 6 months. many "clients" are cheap and want your services for free, and become verbally abusive when they dont get what they want. Kink does not have any kind of block function to keep predators away. user ToeServitude just sent me an email threatening to rape me, and i asked KL to block him from the site. they said there was nothing that could be done, and "that's what the police are for." i'm not actually worried this dude is gonna rape me, but it makes me really fucking angry that kink cant create a simple block function to protect its models. I keep asking when the new release is due, and no one knows. I am looking at joining other cam sites as we speak.
also, fuck Mrtrim.
and whoever said traffic was slow... they are 100% correct. KL without a doubt has the least traffic of any major cam site. I make very good money on the site, but only have an average of 20 or so anonymous members viewing at any given time. the most ive seen in my room was 75.

LivHartless
09-29-2014, 12:15 PM
hi! kink live performer here.... for the most profitable porn company in the world, kink sure doesn't seem to care about the safety or wellbeing of their performers. I have been on KL for about 6 months. many "clients" are cheap and want your services for free, and become verbally abusive when they dont get what they want. Kink does not have any kind of block function to keep predators away. user ToeServitude just sent me an email threatening to rape me, and i asked KL to block him from the site. they said there was nothing that could be done, and "that's what the police are for." i'm not actually worried this dude is gonna rape me, but it makes me really fucking angry that kink cant create a simple block function to protect its models. I keep asking when the new release is due, and no one knows. I am looking at joining other cam sites as we speak.
also, fuck Mrtrim.
and whoever said traffic was slow... they are 100% correct. KL without a doubt has the least traffic of any major cam site. I make very good money on the site, but only have an average of 20 or so anonymous members viewing at any given time. the most ive seen in my room was 75.

SophieL
09-29-2014, 07:18 PM
How exactly does this work? Do you mean to type where I normally type to the viewer? I tried that and I nothing. :(


I just type in the chat box real quick "nude chat" so that the people in the room will know and possibly follow me in there. Then I quickly change the broadcasting to the nude chat mode. I get a few to follow me in. Sorry the the threadjack to cams stuff.

SimoneGray
09-30-2014, 12:29 AM
First week that I'll be working Kink almost exclusively, trying to ease out of SM and see what happens. Hope it works out.

anonymous camgirl
10-02-2014, 04:31 PM
I have had a couple camgirls or so they say.. come to my room or message me and telling me how I need to conduct my shows and free chat and complain that I am not doing it right. ... it's weird to me .. they don't do this on other cam sites.. Being bullied by other cam girls?? I don't understand why my job is their business?? anyone else have this problem?? could be guys?? but it's just odd.

SimoneGray
10-02-2014, 04:37 PM
I have a user that tells me all the time why I'm not in pvt etc. Literally always goes "hey so, you're not gonna do well tonight because so and so is on and she hasn't been here for a while and we've all missed her etc"...like wtf?? I get that they try and help, but there is a lot of passive aggressive "help" going on on this site.

anonymous camgirl
10-02-2014, 04:40 PM
^^ right?? someone told me today that I need to smile and stop being mean.. and why do I complain.. and I am gorgeous and the customers are going to her telling her that they think I am gorgeous but I am mean...LOL.. WTF?? yea right! and they made sure to tell me they make 500 an hour.. I said do you not understand camgirl etiquette at all if you are one that is...

SimoneGray
10-02-2014, 05:20 PM
I don't think they are camgirls though. Or at least mine make it known that they aren't. But its just rude. Thankfully I have met some amazing users who take me pvt regardless of what those hecklers say.

RaineyLane
10-02-2014, 05:51 PM
I have had a couple camgirls or so they say.. come to my room or message me and telling me how I need to conduct my shows and free chat and complain that I am not doing it right. ... it's weird to me .. they don't do this on other cam sites.. Being bullied by other cam girls?? I don't understand why my job is their business?? anyone else have this problem?? could be guys?? but it's just odd.

I highly doubt they are ACTUALLY KL models. It's probably MrTrimm on another account! Or another pathetic freeloader... LOL

anonymous camgirl
10-02-2014, 06:15 PM
^^ fucking lol.. well there name was ladydickbutt