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ClassyCara
03-20-2014, 05:28 AM
I never actually surfed the site until last night. One of the performers I met on here cam on there. She sent me a message and said to go check out this performer. She was doing $10 for 10 minutes of pussy. facing the camera close-up. She wasn't new either, and I saw another performer doing a Pussy Tour for $20 bucks for 5 minutes of close-up cam shots. They do have top performers on there, they list them by their earnings in the newsletters. The problem is there aren't nearly as many performers on there as other sites. So these customers are getting used to cheaper shows and shows done in free chat for low rates. Customers get cheap because performers are willing to cater to their cheapness instead of making them pay up.
I like Kink, I think it has a ton of potential. I also think as a fetish site they need to crack down on the nudity in free chat and make the site about actual fetishes. They are the only fetish cam site out there and there is a huge market for them to tap into. The real fetish customers aren't going to want to see nudity in free chat, that's not their thing. Fetish people usually pay and pay well for their shows. I went on there for fetish shows and a majority of the clients do want you to fuck your pussy.
Those top earners don't do public shows without big $$. In their case I'm ok with the public show. But yes, there will always be the group of models on ANY site that are just trying to make a quick buck. But no one can say that just because it's not a token site that the makers of the site didn't intend on shows in free chat. Only the makers know what they intended, and since a lot of models on there currently do them, I'd say they are ok with it. The problem comes in when, like you said, they perform them for pennies! They usually do it for cheap because they can't get anyone to pay for anything else (since they are not quality models). But I will say that I NEVER get any paying members asking for free shit! It's only the Anons. So from my experience, the cheap models haven't done enough on this site to make a difference. I hope it stays that way!
I totally agree Kink has a SHIT TON of potential. I originally signed up to learn more about fetish/BDSM stuff. I wasn't very experienced in either, but after a few short weeks, I LOVED IT! I hate doing vanilla shit. So boooooooring! I think the site mostly just needs to crack down on the vanilla models. Like EVERYONE on that site needs to do some kind of fetish play. If not there will be an influx of vanilla clients, and then there goes the site! I refuse to go back to camming on a big box, vanilla site!
Magical_Hoohah
03-20-2014, 11:09 AM
So... the KINK_HELP### that seems to be in everyone's room, is that a real person? Can you talk to it and ask questions and stuff? It doesn't go into paid chat with you, right?
Snowy0Star
03-20-2014, 11:22 AM
So... the KINK_HELP### that seems to be in everyone's room, is that a real person? Can you talk to it and ask questions and stuff? It doesn't go into paid chat with you, right?
im pretty sure theyre real ppl can go in ur room and are just there to check ur feed quality
laurielegs
03-20-2014, 02:18 PM
JaneBurgess, and others anti-tokens-MFC-pussy-tour-for-free-camsites haters, lets just all sign-up to Kink, put the premium prices, do the best FETISH shows, no flashes, no freebies, any flavor but Vanilla (nor in free nor in privates!) and we will show those sissies how it should be done! Real Biatches in town! :D :D :D
My application has been aproved a couple of weeks ago, but I didnt get a chance to go online there yet. Hopefully this weekend! Start to look forward to it. Its been a while I wanted to find 100% fetish site. That's also why it is important to get there now, before tons of vanilla girls followed by vanilla members make it another LJ....
Yes!
It seems to me price should at least equal what guys are used to paying for personal one-one attention on MFC - equivalent to $6 per minute privates and $8 per minute trueprivate, particularly if one has a good HD video feed and fast connection.
JaneBurgess
03-20-2014, 03:10 PM
If you cam on there you should know Martin. He said they didn't plan for all the nudity in free chat and they were working on ending it. It wasn't a site made for public shows. Anyone that does fetish knows a majority of the fetish customers don't want nudity in their shows. They don't think they are worthy of seeing you nude and they are also usually serious spenders. Fetish was and never will be about nudity. It also isn't about piercings and tattoo's, that's an alternative lifestyle. It's a shame that performers are trying to turn it into something it isn't. As for those top performers, they have done shows for pennies in free chat. Perhaps it's not pennies on that site, but to other cam sites showing your pussy for $5 is pennies.
I like Kink but it would be nice to have it as an actual fetish site. I signed up on there to do fetish, which I've shoot and have done for years. I don't want to do toy shows on there or shows in free chat. Performers need to respect it's a fetish site and do fetish shows. If not then you are right, it will turn into a vanilla dildo site and we will want to hang ourselves. I saw you on there once when I was logging in and you are adorable. I didn't post this to be mean or insult any of you, I just don't want another site to become like MFC. Streamate was great until they allowed all the nudity and Gold shows. Now it's kinda shitty and cam performers are hurting. Kink can change and grow still and they need to know the performers support what they are aiming for.
Those top earners don't do public shows without big $$. In their case I'm ok with the public show. But yes, there will always be the group of models on ANY site that are just trying to make a quick buck. But no one can say that just because it's not a token site that the makers of the site didn't intend on shows in free chat. Only the makers know what they intended, and since a lot of models on there currently do them, I'd say they are ok with it. The problem comes in when, like you said, they perform them for pennies! They usually do it for cheap because they can't get anyone to pay for anything else (since they are not quality models). But I will say that I NEVER get any paying members asking for free shit! It's only the Anons. So from my experience, the cheap models haven't done enough on this site to make a difference. I hope it stays that way!
I totally agree Kink has a SHIT TON of potential. I originally signed up to learn more about fetish/BDSM stuff. I wasn't very experienced in either, but after a few short weeks, I LOVED IT! I hate doing vanilla shit. So boooooooring! I think the site mostly just needs to crack down on the vanilla models. Like EVERYONE on that site needs to do some kind of fetish play. If not there will be an influx of vanilla clients, and then there goes the site! I refuse to go back to camming on a big box, vanilla site!
AirenStar
03-20-2014, 06:21 PM
Fetish was and never will be about nudity. It also isn't about piercings and tattoo's, that's an alternative lifestyle. It's a shame that performers are trying to turn it into something it isn't..
Deciding what is and isn't a fetish is kind of a grey area since people are into so many different things. Some guys like nudity with their kink, some don't. Some guys specifically seek out tattooed and pierced models because they have a fetish for "alt" looking girls. I totally agree with everything else you've said on this thread though. It would be great to have a kink & fetish orientated cam site site where models aren't offering public cum shows and the customers are looking for more than a girl who will fuck herself with a dildo... not that there's anything wrong with either of those, but MFC is a much better website for it.
Anyways, I signed up and hope to try the site out soon. The slow traffic is troubling, but I've kind of been watching the site and talking to some girls who are models on there over the last few months and it seems to slowly be picking up.
space_cowgirl
03-20-2014, 06:36 PM
I have hope for it, going to keep trying a few hrs here and there.
TashaToday
03-20-2014, 07:04 PM
I had looked at that site before and immediately wrote it off when I entered a room and a woman was riding a dildo. That's all cool, I hold no judgement, but I want to do dom and fetish. After reading this discussion, fuck it, I'm going to sign up. If I want to do kink, and they call themselves KinkLive, maybe it'll turn out good.
JaneBurgess
03-20-2014, 08:27 PM
The problem I see on there is they are confusing alt with fetish. I've been asked numerous times why I don't have tattoo's or body piercings. They seem highly confused that you can be into fetish without an alt look. Many also don't know what BBC, SPH, giantness, CEI, etc are. I know those aren't fetishes for every person, but normally people that live a fetish lifestyle tend to know those terms. So you already have people confused about things and then you throw in public shows and it's a bad mix. My fear is it will attract the freeloaders from other cam sites who will just sit there all day watching the free nudity and become annoying. I have no issue with public shows, but keep them on Chaturbate, Cam4, MFC or sites that cater to free area shows.
You can have kink with nudity, but you usually work up to that in the show. Cam sites are having issues and have been for a while and free/cheap nudity doesn't help one bit. We offer a service, a great service and every single performer should be paid well and if you can't pay as a customer, you don't deserve anything.
The site said the busiest times are during the day between 1 to 4 PT.
Deciding what is and isn't a fetish is kind of a grey area since people are into so many different things. Some guys like nudity with their kink, some don't. Some guys specifically seek out tattooed and pierced models because they have a fetish for "alt" looking girls. I totally agree with everything else you've said on this thread though. It would be great to have a kink & fetish orientated cam site site where models aren't offering public cum shows and the customers are looking for more than a girl who will fuck herself with a dildo... not that there's anything wrong with either of those, but MFC is a much better website for it.
Anyways, I signed up and hope to try the site out soon. The slow traffic is troubling, but I've kind of been watching the site and talking to some girls who are models on there over the last few months and it seems to slowly be picking up.
Charlotteslut
03-20-2014, 09:35 PM
Yes, they have to take steps to make sure the site doesn't go exclusively/mostly vanilla. The whole point of the site is fetish/bdsm play. If you are not offering something in that realm, you should not be allowed to cam there. There are tons of other sites for that.
Do those models active on kink find it's better to let anons chat, or should I block them?
Snowy0Star
03-21-2014, 04:44 AM
The site said the busiest times are during the day between 1 to 4 PT.
u mean PST - pacific standard time? i need to try to go when its busy i went on at like 1 am and it was just an hour of NO ONE saying shit to me and leaving right away even after the kink help or whatever said my feed looked awesome i looked at every other girls room aside from one girls room i had the best feed i know how my feed looks
Fitandpretty
03-21-2014, 07:10 AM
I was thinking of joining this site because I specialize in certain fetishes and I have plenty of equipment. I just finished perving and it was just vanilla dildo banging (DP) in free chat. And it's another chick just nude saying that she doesn't do this for the money :(. Noooooooo!
ClassyCara
03-21-2014, 07:29 AM
So... the KINK_HELP### that seems to be in everyone's room, is that a real person? Can you talk to it and ask questions and stuff? It doesn't go into paid chat with you, right?
Yes. It is a real person. They may not always be in your room depending on how many models are on that the have to monitor. Most of them don't say shit even if you ask them something. They are there to help in cases of technical difficulties, if a member is having account issues, to make sure you are following rules, etc. They can go into your shows as well. I always have them in my play sessions...
ClassyCara
03-21-2014, 07:52 AM
If you cam on there you should know Martin. He said they didn't plan for all the nudity in free chat and they were working on ending it. It wasn't a site made for public shows. Anyone that does fetish knows a majority of the fetish customers don't want nudity in their shows. They don't think they are worthy of seeing you nude and they are also usually serious spenders. Fetish was and never will be about nudity. It also isn't about piercings and tattoo's, that's an alternative lifestyle. It's a shame that performers are trying to turn it into something it isn't. As for those top performers, they have done shows for pennies in free chat. Perhaps it's not pennies on that site, but to other cam sites showing your pussy for $5 is pennies.
I like Kink but it would be nice to have it as an actual fetish site. I signed up on there to do fetish, which I've shoot and have done for years. I don't want to do toy shows on there or shows in free chat. Performers need to respect it's a fetish site and do fetish shows. If not then you are right, it will turn into a vanilla dildo site and we will want to hang ourselves. I saw you on there once when I was logging in and you are adorable. I didn't post this to be mean or insult any of you, I just don't want another site to become like MFC. Streamate was great until they allowed all the nudity and Gold shows. Now it's kinda shitty and cam performers are hurting. Kink can change and grow still and they need to know the performers support what they are aiming for.
Oh I agree, I rarely get requests to flash. Most clients go right into a private if they want something. The fetish is less about the nudity, not because they aren't worthy (unless they are subs), but it's more about the rp aspect. And tattoos and piercings mean NOTHING! I have both and I'm still considered an innocent little girl next door lol. I've never seen those 'top performers' do shows for pennies, but then again I don't perv as much as I used to.
I have never taken anything you've said as mean or insulting. Just a healthy discussion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And thank you, I am flattered. I also don't want the site to turn vanilla, I LOVE the kinkiness. I wasn't on SM before gold shows and nudity, but I got tired of it quickly. I finally found something I enjoyed and it pisses me off that there are sooo many on the site that could ruin it. But the good thing is the clients feel the same way. They hate the influx of vanilla models, so hopefully it won't last long. I'm more worried about that then the nudity in free chat. If everyone keeps it fetishy then we will continue to attract fetish clients who will pay for shows. I could care less about the annons who lurk. They will stick to the models that show them what they want. :)
ClassyCara
03-21-2014, 08:05 AM
Yes, they have to take steps to make sure the site doesn't go exclusively/mostly vanilla. The whole point of the site is fetish/bdsm play. If you are not offering something in that realm, you should not be allowed to cam there. There are tons of other sites for that.
Do those models active on kink find it's better to let anons chat, or should I block them?
I usually start off allowing them to chat. Keeps the room fun and chatty if there aren't any paying clients, which happens often. Keeps me from going insane, and makes it more inviting when paying clients do come in. If they start being ass holes or keep requesting free shit I turn them off for a while. But I've only had to do that once. Not as many ass holes as other sites.
caramelcraze
03-21-2014, 08:18 AM
There definitely is a piercing/body mod fetish market. I'm not "alt" by any means, but I do have my belly button pierced. i've had a few guys purchase custom piercing worship videos. do they have a belly button fetish as well? some of them do... but there have been few who definitely only want pierced/modified belly buttons. I mean the guys who have long fake nail fetishes are technically into body mod as well. there is so much in the kink/fetish/body mod field... it's like having limitless opportunities.
space_cowgirl
03-21-2014, 10:05 AM
I don't really want to get into a debate on what is fetish and what is not, but I'll say that I do sub scenes sometimes, and there is definitely nudity involved in that 99% of the time. I do think ALL nudity should be in private though, and that is what I stick with on kinklive.
ClassyCara
03-21-2014, 10:50 AM
I don't really want to get into a debate on what is fetish and what is not, but I'll say that I do sub scenes sometimes, and there is definitely nudity involved in that 99% of the time. I do think ALL nudity should be in private though, and that is what I stick with on kinklive.
Agreed. There is always some nudity no matter what the fetish is. But it's not just given freely and its not always the 1st thing. Most of the time it builds up to that or goes along with some rp. Fetish isn't about just seeing a girl naked in free chat, or just fucking herself with a dildo.
BunnyEuphoria
03-21-2014, 11:07 AM
I'm so glad this post is here...I thought it was just me and I was getting to be too judgemental or something but it's been killing me seeing the new vanilla models giving their shows away for free and just being vanilla. I only started around December or so but even just between now and then the difference is HUGE in models and quality. Plus, for those of us actually in the lifestyle or with any lifestyle knowledge it sucks seeing so many people trying so hard to capitalize on it and taking away from what should be an awesome kinky fun experience for us as kinky models and the customers as kinky enthusiasts.
And I'm never naked in public. Or do flash shows. If I'm bored and talking to regulars I will show them my bruises on my ass from previous shows to try to get others in the room interested, but it's with lingerie on and making myself look as tempting and fun as possible.
I've done a couple tip shows for spankings, and one public humiliation with markers and addressing new entrants, it was fun and I got paid in private before and after as well as tips.
But mostly I love the environment. Yeah, the site is crazy glitchy and I need to log out sometimes to fix my sound, but it's worth it for the money and the clients being so damned nice and getting to actually do fetish work, which I love! And I'm one of the few actual sub only models too. I've gotten some great regulars and off site work from that.
Lovovelove and I hope it does stick to Kink's higher standards for models/site work because if they do, they will be amazingly successful and they know it. Same with their videos. And God I'd kill to be able to shoot with them as a model!
Magical_Hoohah
03-21-2014, 12:51 PM
Yes. It is a real person. They may not always be in your room depending on how many models are on that the have to monitor. Most of them don't say shit even if you ask them something.
Damn. I was hoping that I could just fire away at the KINK_LIVE guy with all my no0b questions and not bother you ladies about anything.
They are there to help in cases of technical difficulties, if a member is having account issues, to make sure you are following rules, etc. They can go into your shows as well. I always have them in my play sessions...
That's kind of creepy. I know SM techs might be watching my SM privates, too, but at least I'm blissfully unaware. Plus, if I know they're watching, I'd be tempted to ask for constructive criticism. ("Hey tech dude, how was that SPH? Do you feel like your cock wants to shrivel up and fall off? No? Well, I guess I'll just try harder next time.")
Magical_Hoohah
03-21-2014, 01:21 PM
Btw, I'm not really sure what the deal is with the Armory, but I've been having fantasies about a kinky Camgirl-Mansion sort of thing. Lately, being topped by another woman (especially if, like many cam girls, she's armed with a large stash of toys and the expertise to use them) has been sounding, um... quite appealing to me. *Gets lost in perviness...* ;)
Meanwhile, I keep wondering if I should get a higher quality strap-on and try to push my (Dom) husband into pegging. 'Cause, you know, 95% of men are secretly into that, lol!
JaneBurgess
03-21-2014, 02:17 PM
I'm sorry, yes PST. I know they also run a Happy Hour promo on Fridays between 5 pm to 7 or 8 pm PST.
u mean PST - pacific standard time? i need to try to go when its busy i went on at like 1 am and it was just an hour of NO ONE saying shit to me and leaving right away even after the kink help or whatever said my feed looked awesome i looked at every other girls room aside from one girls room i had the best feed i know how my feed looks
JaneBurgess
03-21-2014, 02:21 PM
Have you filled out the model application for shoots?
I'm so glad this post is here...I thought it was just me and I was getting to be too judgemental or something but it's been killing me seeing the new vanilla models giving their shows away for free and just being vanilla. I only started around December or so but even just between now and then the difference is HUGE in models and quality. Plus, for those of us actually in the lifestyle or with any lifestyle knowledge it sucks seeing so many people trying so hard to capitalize on it and taking away from what should be an awesome kinky fun experience for us as kinky models and the customers as kinky enthusiasts.
And I'm never naked in public. Or do flash shows. If I'm bored and talking to regulars I will show them my bruises on my ass from previous shows to try to get others in the room interested, but it's with lingerie on and making myself look as tempting and fun as possible.
I've done a couple tip shows for spankings, and one public humiliation with markers and addressing new entrants, it was fun and I got paid in private before and after as well as tips.
But mostly I love the environment. Yeah, the site is crazy glitchy and I need to log out sometimes to fix my sound, but it's worth it for the money and the clients being so damned nice and getting to actually do fetish work, which I love! And I'm one of the few actual sub only models too. I've gotten some great regulars and off site work from that.
Lovovelove and I hope it does stick to Kink's higher standards for models/site work because if they do, they will be amazingly successful and they know it. Same with their videos. And God I'd kill to be able to shoot with them as a model!
wabisophie
03-21-2014, 08:32 PM
Btw, I'm not really sure what the deal is with the Armory, but I've been having fantasies about a kinky Camgirl-Mansion sort of thing. Lately, being topped by another woman (especially if, like many cam girls, she's armed with a large stash of toys and the expertise to use them) has been sounding, um... quite appealing to me. *Gets lost in perviness...* ;)
lol and I spotted there a sub-girl from the same country tahn me and was fantasising about topping her adn doing a double session with all our dildos, flogers and strapons. grrrr *follows to a perfect pervertedland*
o0Pepper0o
03-22-2014, 09:34 AM
Ok guys...here's my 2 cents on this based on reading the whole thread and applying there myself...
Whoever made the live site must want what they want because despite being only into mild fetishes..I got approved within hours. And so do most alty looking girls from what I've gathered. You can say alt isn't fetish [and I understand what you mean] but if the site is basing models they approve off of piercings and tattoos then...that's what is going to happen. It's not as though in the application it made me list all the fetishes I'd be WILLING to do or not do [which would be a smart way to wean out said "vanilla" models right?]
Sooooo I think that if you ladies want to keep this site as fetish as possible you'll have to find a way to compete with the vanilla freechat chicks or hope that the site does. Which I doubt. Cos $$$ talks. If fetish isn't paying the bills then they won't do anything about this apparent freechat problem. Esp since it's a web wide thing.
ANOTHER thing to ponder: girls who are cheap don't last. You can say all you want that the girls who give it away for nothing are ruining the industry and your $ but I don't really think they affect you that much. I think they make you look good. Cos you're not cheap. And when guys whine I just tell them I'm sorry that I'm too expensive for them.
In the cam world there will ALWAYS be girls who don't know better and are too cheap. Or who don't care and just want to make fast $ and won't last 6 months anyways.
Look, I would LOVE a site that was JUST about fetish..but fetish is hard to nail down. I mean if I did a fetish show in freechat but made the room pay a lot of $ for it, it'd be fetish but it would still be freechat right? That's actually what I'm planning to do on kink cos for the first time it looks like I actually COULD. I have NEVER been able to get a fetish show to fly in a freechat on any other site [ and I've tried, like "foot fetish day!" or "walking up stairs in heels day!" or "call you a sissy for x tokens day!"]
Also, SOME people would consider it a fetish to get naked and be watched alone. I have a few slaves on c4 who tip my live shows to get me naked in freechat because they like the idea of other guys getting off to me that they paid for, for example.
Anyways, this whole thread has been...a good read. I hope that kinklive finds a balance that works for everyone and doesn't turn it into a regular ole camsite as well =)
JenniferNorth
03-22-2014, 09:53 AM
I got approved very quickly and I am by NO means alt looking. I am open minded and enjoy doing a lot of different fetishes though, so maybe thats why I was approved quickly.
I'm bummed help can see us. I, too, would rather remain unaware of them!
chloemay
03-22-2014, 10:17 AM
I got approved very quickly and I am by NO means alt looking. I am open minded and enjoy doing a lot of different fetishes though, so maybe thats why I was approved quickly.
I'm bummed help can see us. I, too, would rather remain unaware of them!
Me too, in fact my verification pic is terrible (not recommending anyone else send a bad one in, trying to get me and my id in the pic is such a pain, let alone trying to look attractive at that moment!) I'd bet it just has to do with someone actively going through the apps at a given time, and possibly mislabeling some which then get lost virtually for a while.
That's speculation from my experience as an office worker. Who knows?
ClassyCara
03-23-2014, 01:31 PM
Ok guys...here's my 2 cents on this based on reading the whole thread and applying there myself...
Whoever made the live site must want what they want because despite being only into mild fetishes..I got approved within hours. And so do most alty looking girls from what I've gathered. You can say alt isn't fetish [and I understand what you mean] but if the site is basing models they approve off of piercings and tattoos then...that's what is going to happen. It's not as though in the application it made me list all the fetishes I'd be WILLING to do or not do [which would be a smart way to wean out said "vanilla" models right?]
Sooooo I think that if you ladies want to keep this site as fetish as possible you'll have to find a way to compete with the vanilla freechat chicks or hope that the site does. Which I doubt. Cos $$$ talks. If fetish isn't paying the bills then they won't do anything about this apparent freechat problem. Esp since it's a web wide thing.
ANOTHER thing to ponder: girls who are cheap don't last. You can say all you want that the girls who give it away for nothing are ruining the industry and your $ but I don't really think they affect you that much. I think they make you look good. Cos you're not cheap. And when guys whine I just tell them I'm sorry that I'm too expensive for them.
In the cam world there will ALWAYS be girls who don't know better and are too cheap. Or who don't care and just want to make fast $ and won't last 6 months anyways.
Look, I would LOVE a site that was JUST about fetish..but fetish is hard to nail down. I mean if I did a fetish show in freechat but made the room pay a lot of $ for it, it'd be fetish but it would still be freechat right? That's actually what I'm planning to do on kink cos for the first time it looks like I actually COULD. I have NEVER been able to get a fetish show to fly in a freechat on any other site [ and I've tried, like "foot fetish day!" or "walking up stairs in heels day!" or "call you a sissy for x tokens day!"]
Also, SOME people would consider it a fetish to get naked and be watched alone. I have a few slaves on c4 who tip my live shows to get me naked in freechat because they like the idea of other guys getting off to me that they paid for, for example.
Anyways, this whole thread has been...a good read. I hope that kinklive finds a balance that works for everyone and doesn't turn it into a regular ole camsite as well =)
I like your outlook on it all.
Yes, alt looking is a fetish in itself (EVERYTHING can be a fetish) And just because you have piercings and tattoos does not mean you are altly, it's more about the personality that goes along with it. I don't think Kink is approving models based on how alt they look. I'm pretty sure they are approving everyone who's information checks out.
I think it should be required to post what types of BDSM you are willing to do. Kinda like SM categories or something. Like seriously, the name of the site is KINK, you should have to be some form of kinky! Not every model needs to do the same thing, but at least SOMETHING. Almost all the paying clients from that site want something kinky, so I am sure the fetish shows will pay the bills. Most of those clients come from the Kink sites themselves and want to see more of that.
I don't think we will need to compete with cheap girls. Like you said, they won't last. And the free loaders will flock to the models that do the shows in free chat (which those models can handle and are ok with, so more power to them) I don't see a problem with free chat shows. They just aren't for every model. As long as you make them pay, and pay BIG, for them then go for it. When I used to do them, they were double, if not triple, the amount for my current play sessions. And when they asked why so much, I told them because they are paying for the annons and freeloaders! If you want cheaper, you can go pvt! (which actually was a cheaper deal for them for the amount of time I did my show in free chat, unless they had a good group of members tipping in!)
OMG I love the clients who are into voyeurism! Again EVERYTHING can be a fetish. I haven't gotten a lot on Kink though. But then again I haven't tried a voyeur show there either.... But I still wouldn't do that in free chat, maybe a play session and if one client wants to buy then whole session and then other clients can have $1 minimum buy in, then that's cool.
Rebootcamgirl
03-24-2014, 09:26 AM
I just signed up yesterday and really hoping I get approved quickly. Would love to do some sub shows and collar/leash shows. Wondering if I should do a kennel show. ((Does anyone know the official name for that? or what fetish its apart of... if you're not sure what I'm talking about, I'm talking about using a large dog kennel((with a comfy blanket lol)) like this 36930 )
wabisophie
03-24-2014, 01:03 PM
I just signed up yesterday and really hoping I get approved quickly. Would love to do some sub shows and collar/leash shows. Wondering if I should do a kennel show. ((Does anyone know the official name for that? or what fetish its apart of... if you're not sure what I'm talking about, I'm talking about using a large dog kennel((with a comfy blanket lol)) like this 36930 )
Wow I havent seen anyone using it online so far, I definately think you should go for it, it will make your room stand out from other sub-hosts straight ahead.
Fitandpretty
03-24-2014, 01:15 PM
I just signed up yesterday and really hoping I get approved quickly. Would love to do some sub shows and collar/leash shows. Wondering if I should do a kennel show. ((Does anyone know the official name for that? or what fetish its apart of... if you're not sure what I'm talking about, I'm talking about using a large dog kennel((with a comfy blanket lol)) like this 36930 )
I got one of those too but not for shows though lol. I have seen a few porn clips with them tho. You should try it out :)
Rebootcamgirl
03-24-2014, 01:57 PM
Woo! Thanks for the input, thats exciting. :3 I just got approved but I'm having issues setting up payment options. I emailed support and will see what they say.
Magical_Hoohah
03-24-2014, 02:01 PM
I just signed up yesterday and really hoping I get approved quickly. Would love to do some sub shows and collar/leash shows. Wondering if I should do a kennel show. ((Does anyone know the official name for that? or what fetish its apart of... if you're not sure what I'm talking about, I'm talking about using a large dog kennel((with a comfy blanket lol)) like this 36930 )
Interesting idea...
I don't know the name of the fetish either, but I bet it would be popular. On a few occasions I've climbed in one of our dogs' crates (to get back a stolen item or give bedtime hugs), and my husband always gets the most evil grin. If he's really feeling Dom-ish, he threatens to let the dogs sleep on the bed and make me sleep in one of the crates.
Just make sure you take out the black plastic tray and replace it with something else (like a thick mat or maybe plywood). That tray makes sooo much noise every time the dogs start moving around (their bedtime ritual involves turning in circles many, many times before laying down - it sort of sounds like a stable full of horses stamping their feet).
ClassyCara
03-24-2014, 03:29 PM
I recently saw a gold show on SM where the models was tied up in there. It was a fetish network site account. I've had clients ask about something along those lines. Just never done it. There would be a pretty good interest in it so you should go for it!!!
temptingmodel
03-24-2014, 09:28 PM
Im seeking the encoder settings.
I see a FMS and a Stream but where are the actual encoder settings?
Fetish and kink , such a variety. I do so much of it naturally.
Warning so dont jump my shit, I havent read this whole thread and dont know why this is discussed?
Not that it matters but people with tattoos and piercings, I am one and never once thought was it was a fetish maybe think of it as a sub culture fetish since the tattoo and piercing community has moved more mainstream and not so much underground.
I do have clients that watch the piercings removed and go back in.. that is a fetish. This person gets off on open and close of skin
I have never had someone say they get off to tattoos. I get compliments I have had customers pay for them but never a fetish. I think the fetish with tattoos are the people receiving them. The needle simply trances me into a state of utopia. I am relaxed. That is my fetish.
I have my profile set up and ready, so excited. I wanted to be here many moons ago but they only offered the armory.
I set my rates what I think is decent.
I HAVE A FUCKTON OF FETISH TOYS I CAN FINALLY USE..yay! I bought so much crap and only unpackaged bc I dont have that clientele, its hard to build fetish on a vanilla site.
Getting things ready for tomorrow. :D
temptingmodel
03-24-2014, 09:35 PM
I am assuming when we log in and if we go to rooms our username will be provided? If so , mine is same as here.
I want to see what rates are for models, not perving just snooping around like normal when new to a site
is the encoder important? Should I worry about it.
I hate being the newb
Rebootcamgirl
03-24-2014, 10:00 PM
^ these questions are some I'd like answers to as well lol. I'm trying to snoop as well and see what others are putting.
JaneBurgess
03-24-2014, 11:09 PM
I've never seen any actual encoder settings listed on there. I used the ones for Streamate and it worked just fine.
Im seeking the encoder settings.
I see a FMS and a Stream but where are the actual encoder settings?
Fetish and kink , such a variety. I do so much of it naturally.
Warning so dont jump my shit, I havent read this whole thread and dont know why this is discussed?
Not that it matters but people with tattoos and piercings, I am one and never once thought was it was a fetish maybe think of it as a sub culture fetish since the tattoo and piercing community has moved more mainstream and not so much underground.
I do have clients that watch the piercings removed and go back in.. that is a fetish. This person gets off on open and close of skin
I have never had someone say they get off to tattoos. I get compliments I have had customers pay for them but never a fetish. I think the fetish with tattoos are the people receiving them. The needle simply trances me into a state of utopia. I am relaxed. That is my fetish.
I have my profile set up and ready, so excited. I wanted to be here many moons ago but they only offered the armory.
I set my rates what I think is decent.
I HAVE A FUCKTON OF FETISH TOYS I CAN FINALLY USE..yay! I bought so much crap and only unpackaged bc I dont have that clientele, its hard to build fetish on a vanilla site.
Getting things ready for tomorrow. :D
ClassyCara
03-25-2014, 06:51 AM
I am assuming when we log in and if we go to rooms our username will be provided? If so , mine is same as here.
I want to see what rates are for models, not perving just snooping around like normal when new to a site
is the encoder important? Should I worry about it.
I hate being the newb
When you sign up, your username and model name are separate. When you log in you use your username, and that is the name that show up when you enter a model's room. They will NOT see you model name (unless you're like me and made your username and model name the same!). But don't go into your own room when you are camming, it causes glitches.
Rates vary drastically. My advice, charge what you are comfortable with. The paying clients on this site are willing to drop $$$. No matter what it is, they will pay.
I think the encoder gives you a more consistent quality, but I've seen models look great without it. I'm just used to using it on SM so I feel better doing it on kink too! I use the SM settings as well. Works just fine!
xxtinamariexx
03-25-2014, 07:35 AM
Can you open up two encoders say stream to your freechat area in sm and in kink at the same time? I will have to try it just to see today. (I do have two cameras but don't use any splitcamming software)
JaneBurgess
03-25-2014, 03:18 PM
I don't think you can on the same computer
Can you open up two encoders say stream to your freechat area in sm and in kink at the same time? I will have to try it just to see today. (I do have two cameras but don't use any splitcamming software)
Snowy0Star
03-25-2014, 03:28 PM
I don't think you can on the same computer
you can its just taxing on ur comp ur CPU will probably be tapped out but ppl do it
JaneBurgess
03-25-2014, 05:58 PM
Liz said the CPU has to be 75 percent or under to not cause issues. I would think two Encoders would push up close to or over that number. I honestly don't think you need Encoder for Kink. The video feeds all look kinda bad with or without Encoder. It's something with their site.
you can its just taxing on ur comp ur CPU will probably be tapped out but ppl do it
temptingmodel
03-25-2014, 06:50 PM
luckily my SM computer is for SM only. I would dare fuck up whatever they have done just to try a new site. It took months for my issues to be resolved
On the other hand I have this nifty i5 quad but only 8 gigs of ram. I would think having two encoders open would be a PITA. I can handle the built in with nude on cams when in private on KINK. (if that makes sense)
Liz said the CPU has to be 75 percent or under to not cause issues. I would think two Encoders would push up close to or over that number. I honestly don't think you need Encoder for Kink. The video feeds all look kinda bad with or without Encoder. It's something with their site.
im thinking neither of these REALLY require a encoder.
laurielegs
03-25-2014, 11:03 PM
I thought this was going to be a good site but it's like MFC without the traffic. So many of the performers show tits and pussy for dirt cheap rates. Before you sign up or log in, go on there and read what these people do in free chat for tips or watch them. Since the site is small the client base expects a lot of things in free chat because almost every performer on there does it. The top performers are going full nudity for $20, $10 being their take. It was alright until they brought in Play Sessions which are look Gold shows, once again the shows are pretty low amounts compared to Streamate. I'm not trying to be mean but honestly I'm tired of performers flashing pussy for $10 and ruining sites with their bullshit. If you think your pussy is only worth $5 your take, then you shouldn't be on a cam site period.
I love you guys, you know that. Just annoyed that cam performers themselves are starting to ruin sites. Fuck, have some standards.
So far the site is netting me 60% of zero. Total waste of my time but going to give it a week and see.
I am seeing the same thing when I view rooms.
First one I click on she was doing $5 for 5 minute boob play - seriously? Nice. 60 cents a minute! (and that was what she offered for one $5 tip in free chat, not a group play / gold show type thing).
I was really hoping it wouldn't end up being a cheap flash site but so far thats all I see.
chloemay
03-26-2014, 06:34 AM
Okay, I feel like an idiot. I'm trying to log on for my first cam session there and can't find the correct page. I've tried kinklive.com and keep getting a blank page. Can anyone help me out with the correct link?
Snowy0Star
03-26-2014, 06:42 AM
Okay, I feel like an idiot. I'm trying to log on for my first cam session there and can't find the correct page. I've tried kinklive.com and keep getting a blank page. Can anyone help me out with the correct link?
beta.kinklive.com/kink-live/
Glamourmilf
03-26-2014, 07:19 AM
I've sent in my License 5 times now, and they kept saying they couldn't read it.
I just got an e-mail today that said they don't accept a driver's license, only a government I.D. F...k that! ever other site approved me within a day or so.
(all except AW, who wanted a passport.), which I'm not going to spend $100 to get a new one.
All that tells me is that I would be wasting my time camming on there. It's the universe's protection from me wasting my time on a dead site.
xxtinamariexx
03-26-2014, 08:25 AM
okay running sm encoder and kink in normal strean here is my cpu usage :) http://i58.tinypic.com/4g5s7.png
sweethips
03-26-2014, 08:37 AM
I've sent in my License 5 times now, and they kept saying they couldn't read it.
I just got an e-mail today that said they don't accept a driver's license, only a government I.D. F...k that! ever other site approved me within a day or so.
(all except AW, who wanted a passport.), which I'm not going to spend $100 to get a new one.
All that tells me is that I would be wasting my time camming on there. It's the universe's protection from me wasting my time on a dead site.
I just sent my license in again... hope they accept it.