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xxtinamariexx
03-26-2014, 09:55 AM
okay I couldn't get my sound to work on kinky without going through the encoder, not sure what I was doing wrong so heres my cpu usage with 2 encoders, 2 cams on my asus laptop (will update in a min)

Snowy0Star
03-26-2014, 09:57 AM
^ its kinda hard to read the % on the CPU and the ram what do they say ?

xxtinamariexx
03-26-2014, 10:29 AM
^ its kinda hard to read the % on the CPU and the ram what do they say ?

Sorry its on the bottom too bigger, cpu was 36% memory 3.3/8.0gb (41%) Speed 3.12 GHz Processes 90 max speed 2.40 GHz Cores 4 logical processors8

CurvyWinona
03-26-2014, 11:11 AM
I got approved on KL but I am not sure where to start. haha. I would do 5.99 min rate... Is it standard or too high on KL? I need to know what is average rate on KL, so I can start from there or start at a bit higher. I am gonna try cam later tonight to lock in the rate.

JenniferNorth
03-26-2014, 11:22 AM
Me too bb! I've been holding off on working there, but I want to lock my rate in and try something other than IML and cam4 (before MFC/Chaturbate take off-cam4 will be practice haha). Hugs and wishing you luck!

laurielegs
03-26-2014, 11:37 AM
I got approved on KL but I am not sure where to start. haha. I would do 5.99 min rate... Is it standard or too high on KL? I need to know what is average rate on KL, so I can start from there or start at a bit higher. I am gonna try cam later tonight to lock in the rate.

From what I see the site is full of cheap submissive hosts who do public shows for next to nothing, but today I saw a host at 4.99 group 5.99 private. I think for what is supposed to be a specialized fetish site that is still too low.

The thing too is, there only seem to be 5 to 7 hosts on at a time so there are not a lot for a guy to choose from. If a guy wants to see you in particular he will likely pay.

I feel prices there should at least match MFC private/true private at $6 and 8, but maybe that's wishful thinking?

Charlotteslut
03-26-2014, 11:50 AM
I have my prices on kink set a bit lower than my SM prices. The reason for this is guys on Kink generally stay much longer, and I still get my normal cut or more/min because the payout is higher. I tried higher prices but I definitely made less overall when I did.

laurielegs
03-26-2014, 12:00 PM
I have my prices on kink set a bit lower than my SM prices. The reason for this is guys on Kink generally stay much longer, and I still get my normal cut or more/min because the payout is higher. I tried higher prices but I definitely made less overall when I did.

Please don't be offended, not directing this specifically at you, but it kills me how prices seem to be set lower by hosts when we get a higher cut. Pricing to me should reflect what the guy is getting, specialized fetish shows personalized just for him.

I have the same gripe with indy. It's overall so cheap it kills me.

With that said, on a low traffic site with cheap guys I guess I might have to lower prices too just to make anything. Dammit! :(

CurvyWinona
03-26-2014, 12:20 PM
I do not put myself at lower rate just because the site has a higher payout percentage. I just want to set at a rate that is good for making new fans on a new site. AND TO MORE MONEY TO ME! haha

Magical_Hoohah
03-26-2014, 01:17 PM
Please don't be offended, not directing this specifically at you, but it kills me how prices seem to be set lower by hosts when we get a higher cut. Pricing to me should reflect what the guy is getting, specialized fetish shows personalized just for him.

I have the same gripe with indy. It's overall so cheap it kills me.

With that said, on a low traffic site with cheap guys I guess I might have to lower prices too just to make anything. Dammit! :(

I've been debating with myself about this, too. If a guy will pay $x.xx to see me do my stuff on SM, why wouldn't he pay the same amount on any other platform (assuming similar broadcast quality)? Plus, most of the content on Kink.com costs $$, so a guy wandering over into KinkLive.com should be used to paying for his porn.

On the other hand, I wonder if I should charge slightly less on KL than on SM. That way guys will be encouraged to see me on KL, where I will ultimately make more than I would on SM. That might be a little unrealistic, though. I doubt that I would be converting much traffic from SM to KL, so I'd probably be lowering my rates for no reason.

On the third hand (haha), my AW rates are grotesquely low compared to my SM rates (although I make more per minute). I feel a little silly insisting on charging the same rates for SM and KL, but lowering them for AW. Of course the quality on AW is lower, and I don't do much free chat, and I like the guys so much better than SM, so maybe that's good justification for the lower rates...?

Magical_Hoohah
03-26-2014, 01:24 PM
When you sign up, your username and model name are separate. When you log in you use your username, and that is the name that show up when you enter a model's room. They will NOT see you model name (unless you're like me and made your username and model name the same!).
Even when I'm signed in and enter another model's room, it shows me as Anon-###. Have you ever actually seen your username on the listing for a model's room? Maybe because I don't have a cc on file, they show me as Anon? It's not a big deal either way, just curious.

laurielegs
03-26-2014, 01:27 PM
Even when I'm signed in and enter another model's room, it shows me as Anon-###. Have you ever actually seen your username on the listing for a model's room? Maybe because I don't have a cc on file, they show me as Anon? It's not a big deal either way, just curious.

Yes I believe you have to have a cc on file. (and I'm thankful that is the case!! That way I don't waste my time on guys who can not pay at all).

JaneBurgess
03-26-2014, 02:30 PM
That's all I've seen too. I've also seen tons of full nudity in free chat for $10 tips. I was hoping for an actual fetish site, but I get way more fetish shows on Streamate. I get Vanilla guys on Kink. Sigh




So far the site is netting me 60% of zero. Total waste of my time but going to give it a week and see.

I am seeing the same thing when I view rooms.
First one I click on she was doing $5 for 5 minute boob play - seriously? Nice. 60 cents a minute! (and that was what she offered for one $5 tip in free chat, not a group play / gold show type thing).

I was really hoping it wouldn't end up being a cheap flash site but so far thats all I see.

temptingmodel
03-26-2014, 08:09 PM
I will assume the kink mods dont give model support or i just had bad one.

And same experience as Jane. Kinda shitty when I expected something else.

ClassyCara
03-27-2014, 09:40 AM
There has been a HUGE influx of cheap models signing up on Kink lately. And I've only been signed up for 4 months now. I think its because more models are aware of the 60% rate, and since they just announced they will be changing it. When I signed up there weren't a lot of cheap rates (there were some, but NO WHERE NEAR what its like today). I think that after a while most of those models will burn out on Kink when they don't make what they thought they would.

Also, it irritates me when I see allllll these models just using Kink to split cam with a shitty stream quality. I think they are just using Kink to split with because of the 60% too. Don't get me wrong splitting is fine, but don't do it at the cost of your stream quality. If you are going to split then make sure your computer can handle it. I don't think its the site that is making the quality bad either. I use the encoder (with the same SM settings) and my stream is clear and smooth. Not sure if you have to use the encoder for good quality or not, but I have seen models that don't use it and have great streams. I get the occasional issues just like any site does, but nothing more than a quick refresh fix.

I debated on what my rates should be. When I started the average rates where higher than SM, they have dropped dramatically since then. At first I made mine about $1 lower than SM and promoted the fuck out of the fact that it was cheaper for my clients to go there. I had my main regs follow me there, which was great! I figured, they are lower rates which will attract more clients and benefit my current clients, and I still make MORE per min than I would on SM. Win-win! But after a few weeks I raised my rates to about the same/a little bit more than my SM rates. The paying clients on Kink are willing to PAY and usually do MUCH longer shows on a regular basis. So now I make more than double what I was making on SM per min.

And yes, you do have to have a CC on file for your username to show up. LOVE that feature!

The kink_live support don't usually talk unless they have to, and sometimes not even then. I think they are monitoring multiple rooms at a time, so they may not be paying attention right then. There is one of them that is AWESOME and helped me out my first few days by giving suggestions and telling me to post my twitter and wishlist in my description. He/she is usually monitoring in the early evenings (I'm on EST). The rest don't say anything unless the model is breaking the rules or someone is having serious tech issues. :(

temptingmodel
03-27-2014, 10:44 AM
Im not using a split software. I am also not using the encoder. I will try that. My stream looks like crap imo

ClassyCara
03-27-2014, 10:56 AM
Im not using a split software. I am also not using the encoder. I will try that. My stream looks like crap imo

I don't think I've seen your stream. And I'm not a techy person at all, I just know what works for me lol! It took a lot of playing around to find what works best for my set up (computer, internet connection, monitor set up, etc.)

JaneBurgess
03-27-2014, 12:21 PM
Every performer on Kink has shitty feeds in my opinion. It has to be their site because even with Encoder the feeds still look kinda bad. Iff you compare the feeds to other cam sites, it's pretty bad. I mentioned it to Martin so I hope they can figure it out.




There has been a HUGE influx of cheap models signing up on Kink lately. And I've only been signed up for 4 months now. I think its because more models are aware of the 60% rate, and since they just announced they will be changing it. When I signed up there weren't a lot of cheap rates (there were some, but NO WHERE NEAR what its like today). I think that after a while most of those models will burn out on Kink when they don't make what they thought they would.

Also, it irritates me when I see allllll these models just using Kink to split cam with a shitty stream quality. I think they are just using Kink to split with because of the 60% too. Don't get me wrong splitting is fine, but don't do it at the cost of your stream quality. If you are going to split then make sure your computer can handle it. I don't think its the site that is making the quality bad either. I use the encoder (with the same SM settings) and my stream is clear and smooth. Not sure if you have to use the encoder for good quality or not, but I have seen models that don't use it and have great streams. I get the occasional issues just like any site does, but nothing more than a quick refresh fix.

I debated on what my rates should be. When I started the average rates where higher than SM, they have dropped dramatically since then. At first I made mine about $1 lower than SM and promoted the fuck out of the fact that it was cheaper for my clients to go there. I had my main regs follow me there, which was great! I figured, they are lower rates which will attract more clients and benefit my current clients, and I still make MORE per min than I would on SM. Win-win! But after a few weeks I raised my rates to about the same/a little bit more than my SM rates. The paying clients on Kink are willing to PAY and usually do MUCH longer shows on a regular basis. So now I make more than double what I was making on SM per min.

And yes, you do have to have a CC on file for your username to show up. LOVE that feature!

The kink_live support don't usually talk unless they have to, and sometimes not even then. I think they are monitoring multiple rooms at a time, so they may not be paying attention right then. There is one of them that is AWESOME and helped me out my first few days by giving suggestions and telling me to post my twitter and wishlist in my description. He/she is usually monitoring in the early evenings (I'm on EST). The rest don't say anything unless the model is breaking the rules or someone is having serious tech issues. :(

temptingmodel
03-27-2014, 03:47 PM
very slow? I feel like it is slow. Maybe Im spoiled with SM and Cams running smooth. The feed on kink is what keeps me from using it to split w Cams. I thought it was just me but but every stream I see now glitchy.

Every performer on Kink has shitty feeds in my opinion. It has to be their site because even with Encoder the feeds still look kinda bad. Iff you compare the feeds to other cam sites, it's pretty bad. I mentioned it to Martin so I hope they can figure it out.


ok , ok, OK I shouldve perved this site a bit. Is this a baby version of my home site in the making/beta? Skip the rules and lay it on out there BOOM! pussy in my face profile picture. Nothing is monitored and I think I read Martin didnt want or expect it to be nude in free chat? I am assuming Martin is head honcho of the models?

I COMPLETELY believe Martin and anyone else will tell us there is a ocean in the dessert if we just cam there. Owners should be able to take charge hence kinkadminNOTHELPFUL sitting in our rooms.
Rules... There are none :( sign your W9 or dont get paid, I did see this rule. lol

going back on this thread to read...

temptingmodel
03-27-2014, 04:08 PM
Ok now I semi understand everything:O

Completely understand how tattoos and piercings got drug into this. Its a subculture fetish not a fetish. I am asked the opposite question of what Jane is asked. I am asked for whips and chains just bc I have tattoos and piercings. People clearly do not understand. I get it now that I have read the whole thread.

Im still lost about how to handle kink.

JaneBurgess
03-27-2014, 04:12 PM
If you figure it out let me know. If you are nice to them they don't talk, if you are mean they don' talk and if you ignore them they bitch. It's a confusing site.



Ok now I semi understand everything:O

Completely understand how tattoos and piercings got drug into this. Its a subculture fetish not a fetish. I am asked the opposite question of what Jane is asked. I am asked for whips and chains just bc I have tattoos and piercings. People clearly do not understand. I get it now that I have read the whole thread.

Im still lost about how to handle kink.

temptingmodel
03-27-2014, 04:26 PM
I figured out why i have made 10.00 one shift and 2.00 the other. I dont have a long extensive menu for free chat.

I had a guy enter paid last night. He ended show. Comes in free , tells me he is from France and wants to serve me. Go back in paid right? Noooo he wants to serve me in free bc his connection is bad. I logged off.
I was trying to keep a good attitude.
Are these gys charged instantly?
If you figure it out let me know. If you are nice to them they don't talk, if you are mean they don' talk and if you ignore them they bitch. It's a confusing site.

JaneBurgess
03-27-2014, 06:30 PM
Yes, once they enter a paid session they are charged. Free chat is the issue I have with that site. The performers do so much shit in free chat there really isn't a need for private shows. Like I said, they are killing that site with the free shows and cheap rates. Now they will say it isn't free but when two guys tip you for a show in free chat and twenty watch, you are doing a free show for 18 people.



I figured out why i have made 10.00 one shift and 2.00 the other. I dont have a long extensive menu for free chat.

I had a guy enter paid last night. He ended show. Comes in free , tells me he is from France and wants to serve me. Go back in paid right? Noooo he wants to serve me in free bc his connection is bad. I logged off.
I was trying to keep a good attitude.
Are these gys charged instantly?

temptingmodel
03-27-2014, 07:06 PM
Exactly what I was referring to. as far as the free chat.
Just to fit in lol I put pussy flash 200.00 bc they will not pay and if they do they can have a fast flash. Keep the privates private kwim?
Yes, once they enter a paid session they are charged. Free chat is the issue I have with that site. The performer do so much shit in free chat there really isn't a need for private shows. Like I said, they are killing that site with the free shows and cheap rates. Now they will say it isn't free but when two guys tip you for a show in free chat and twenty watch, you are doing a free show for 18 people.
I saw in one models profile about offline tips? I dont see this

o0Pepper0o
03-27-2014, 09:21 PM
[shrug] I had a different experience. I was on today for only an hour and a half made about $18 in tributes and then made another $41 in 2 privates one being my first foot fetish private. So...I dunno. I'm getting a nice mix of both which is kind of how I like it =)
I think it went well being my second time broadcasting and both broadcasts only lasting about an hour [I'm a firm believer that the first hour anywhere is usually going to be shit so the fact that it wasn't is pretty hopeful for me]
I just make my tribute menu pricey even for flashes. I have mostly a menu of fetish related acts [ like show feet, wear boots/heels/sneakers, put on a ball gag] and find they're turning out well also. I also adverise changing up my menu every time I get on to explore other fetishes and perhaps lure in privates based on the kind of tributes I accept.
I think this site will be good and has loads of potential. But it's not going to be the privates and group chat only site a lot of you ladies are hoping for.
All we can REALLY hope for is that the kink isn't entirely lost!

Magical_Hoohah
03-27-2014, 09:37 PM
I saw in one models profile about offline tips? I dont see this
Yes, they can tip you while you are offline. If you're signed in, mouse over any of the models, and you'll see a heart icon (to favorite her) and a dialogue bubble icon, which you can use to send her a message or a tribute. I'm not sure that many people will send offline tributes, but I like that the option is there.


@ClassyCara I just perved on your room for a second, and you are cute as a fuckin button! Your dual setup is nifty, too.

temptingmodel
03-27-2014, 09:59 PM
hmmm maybe a kinky group?

temptingmodel
03-27-2014, 10:05 PM
taking notes .. I did good my second night.

years and I still freeze up.. funny they do love new girls , I miss that :)
[shrug] I had a different experience. I was on today for only an hour and a half made about $18 in tributes and then made another $41 in 2 privates one being my first foot fetish private. So...I dunno. I'm getting a nice mix of both which is kind of how I like it =)
I think it went well being my second time broadcasting and both broadcasts only lasting about an hour [I'm a firm believer that the first hour anywhere is usually going to be shit so the fact that it wasn't is pretty hopeful for me]
I just make my tribute menu pricey even for flashes. I have mostly a menu of fetish related acts [ like show feet, wear boots/heels/sneakers, put on a ball gag] and find they're turning out well also. I also adverise changing up my menu every time I get on to explore other fetishes and perhaps lure in privates based on the kind of tributes I accept.
I think this site will be good and has loads of potential. But it's not going to be the privates and group chat only site a lot of you ladies are hoping for.
All we can REALLY hope for is that the kink isn't entirely lost!
Amen with the small private I had, I m happy. ^^^^


the fetishes i found online, the original dommes, back in the mid evil LOL I like those. Randomly popped up. The footage is terrible but for that time. Of course I xd out lol

ClassyCara
03-28-2014, 12:20 AM
Yes, they can tip you while you are offline. If you're signed in, mouse over any of the models, and you'll see a heart icon (to favorite her) and a dialogue bubble icon, which you can use to send her a message or a tribute. I'm not sure that many people will send offline tributes, but I like that the option is there.


@ClassyCara I just perved on your room for a second, and you are cute as a fuckin button! Your dual setup is nifty, too.

OMG it was the 1st time i tested out the dual cams, and my stream quality sucked so I switched back! Thanks though, you made me blush!

ClassyCara
03-28-2014, 12:25 AM
yay second full night online :) here
KINK VETS ADVICE NEEDED
ok, I notice a private is first which charges the higher rate? correct?

when someone came in it read this is now a group show.

I am wondering if my price for solo show is high? 9.99 maybe lower it if that gateway to group? Im confused


THANKS EVERYONE for all the advice. I have ended up just being me, naturally demanding on cam. I do all fetishes. Specialize more than others due to popularity.
Everyone seems across the average fetish board with me. Some fetishes I expect are not even being asked for. I have names it all in my show profile.

I can see the possibilities now that Im comfy with site, a few complaints like usual

$rates confuse me, i don't want to shoot my own foot

(I have serious issues discussing rates in public. Kink in verified as well, no pun JOIN US! Yw Loveshooks;) )

There is a group session and a private session. Private is usually a higher rate than group. But you can make your rate whatever you want, whatever you think your time is worth. I don't suggest going under 5-6/min or so for private.

Sabihah
03-28-2014, 09:19 AM
So excited - I emailed Martin about the possibility of broadcasting from the Armory next month while I'm in town, and he's setting me up for a walk-through! YES.

Magical_Hoohah
03-28-2014, 11:34 AM
OMG it was the 1st time i tested out the dual cams, and my stream quality sucked so I switched back! Thanks though, you made me blush!

Np. :) It confused me for a second, but once I realized it wasn't a glitch, I thought it was totally genius. You could solve so many of those "how do I get in this position and still keep my junk visible to the cam?" moments. I hope you can make it work!

wabisophie
03-28-2014, 11:58 AM
There has been a HUGE influx of cheap models signing up on Kink lately. And I've only been signed up for 4 months now. I think its because more models are aware of the 60% rate, and since they just announced they will be changing it. When I signed up there weren't a lot of cheap rates (there were some, but NO WHERE NEAR what its like today). I think that after a while most of those models will burn out on Kink when they don't make what they thought they would.

I debated on what my rates should be. When I started the average rates where higher than SM, they have dropped dramatically since then. At first I made mine about $1 lower than SM and promoted the fuck out of the fact that it was cheaper for my clients to go there. I had my main regs follow me there, which was great! I figured, they are lower rates which will attract more clients and benefit my current clients, and I still make MORE per min than I would on SM. Win-win! But after a few weeks I raised my rates to about the same/a little bit more than my SM rates. The paying clients on Kink are willing to PAY and usually do MUCH longer shows on a regular basis. So now I make more than double what I was making on SM per min.



It can be a log debate, but could anyone actually say what do you consider to be low and what high?
Cause for now it seems to me as circles on surface, and doesnt really help.
I dont ask for YOUR rates, but can you give a range of what you consider low/high rates?

Charlotteslut
03-28-2014, 12:15 PM
Low to me is 4 dollars and under per minute, MED is 4-6, high is 7-10.

wabisophie
03-28-2014, 01:04 PM
Thanks, Charlotte, your answers are always straight to the point! =)
I want to argue about what is the "site average", as I have an impression that there are some "cheap" sites (like Imlive, CC) where anything above 4$ means almost no traffic.
But maybe Im wrong. (or maybe its just those two are litterally dead lately, doesnt matter what you charge)
And then again Kink is new so there IS no average so far.
P.S. - for a cold-hearted bitch I am, can't believe how shaky my knees become when I start talking rates... *sigh*

Rebootcamgirl
03-29-2014, 11:07 AM
I honestly love Kinklive. The user interface is so much less stressful. And I like the break feature. I'm having trouble with the encoder, using the streamate settings and doing all the same steps with copying and pasting, however it just won't connect. I was hoping to use that, cause the HD on Kink sometimes does weird things and I built my computer for camming in high quality. Meh.

temptingmodel
03-29-2014, 01:19 PM
a customer took me private and explained.
I was confused if the had to be in private before group.
I saw you pop in my room a cpl times yesterday :) in/out lol I do the same, models get ban happy on sm or just think we are mean. Im not and never ban models. I dont mind a models screen name.
There is a group session and a private session. Private is usually a higher rate than group. But you can make your rate whatever you want, whatever you think your time is worth. I don't suggest going under 5-6/min or so for private.

am set at 4.99/8.99
On SM I have high goals. Sick high goals. I am glad I am person that loves to work, I have the drive of devil trying to get into heaven. I will not stop. I get worse. Im the bitch doing 95mph on the off ramp screaming go hard or go home Vroooooom! :) lol
With that said. Kink may be slow but if you can hang long enough and have the right kink/ style The money is def there. I sat two days didnt make $$$. Third day was a charm.
Im learning a new site.

I am the model that must move around, dance, tease in free. Honestly I would be bored to the floor if I didnt.
^^ That landed a money show "your like the table dance before vip" I played into it, lets go VIP bb. VIP we went for all his fantasies he has with dancers

I dont mind constructive criticism from peers its the straight up bullying that sets me off.
I love when models visit bc Im shy but the as long as models either clear with me Im used as a prop and the customer will be paying me as well. For those that do this, you know what I mean. AND/OR No soliciting in my room :)

chloemay
03-29-2014, 06:50 PM
I'm at $5.99 for both private and group because I'm brand new and that seemed like a good number to start with. I did get a quick private, just over 5 mins and I made just under $19. So, that was cool. I basically just teased him about his fetish, did not get undressed as I am used to waiting for the guy to ask (which they almost always do immediately, but I think I've lost fetish guys before on other sites by getting to vanilla-sexy and didn't want to do that here).

So far so good. As long as the site pays reliably I can see myself camming here for a while. There were between 7 and 25 guys in there at a time, the vast majority were anons though.

Rebootcamgirl
03-30-2014, 10:34 AM
37008

Not that I'm complaining about Kink or anything. But this is how its making me feel sometimes.. XD

Snowy0Star
03-30-2014, 04:19 PM
37008

Not that I'm complaining about Kink or anything. But this is how its making me feel sometimes.. XD

spend a day on imlive .....

chloemay
03-30-2014, 09:47 PM
It was anon-land earlier today! I got a pretty generous Skype offer for a show, didn't see it until hours later as I find it annoying that they expect us to log off and go running to their bidding, ya know? I mean, here I am new (really need to read the rules I know, bad girl) to the site, and it comes off like topping from the bottom.

Anyway, can the viewer tip ahead of time for an offline show on Kink? Also, can I look at my Kink mail while in free-chat there?

Rebootcamgirl
03-31-2014, 12:14 AM
Anyway, can the viewer tip ahead of time for an offline show on Kink? Also, can I look at my Kink mail while in free-chat there?

They can tribute you offline, so maybe you can work it that way?

passionflower
03-31-2014, 07:04 AM
They can tribute you offline, so maybe you can work it that way?

I hope it's ok to offer an alternative. I'm trying Kink for group and per minute privates but for the guys who prefer Skype SinfulCall* (http://www.adultchathosts.com/?ref=iZ5L) has been working well for me. They payout 80%, offer $100 bonus for every referral who buy $70 in credits within 48 hours, and I asked and confirmed that it's ok take tips for shows.

Of course if your customer is originally *from* Kink you should keep him there and not redirect him. But if you're just looking for a payment processor for your own traffic there are other places where you can keep more of your money.

*yes that's a referral link :) it would be nice if anyone who signs up uses it but I won't be hurt if you don't. I'd love to see the site grow because more girls = more advertising = more users.

JaneBurgess
03-31-2014, 03:09 PM
I don't believe so. Pretty sure the show has to be done on Kink, I havent seen anything that says you can do the show off site.



It was anon-land earlier today! I got a pretty generous Skype offer for a show, didn't see it until hours later as I find it annoying that they expect us to log off and go running to their bidding, ya know? I mean, here I am new (really need to read the rules I know, bad girl) to the site, and it comes off like topping from the bottom.

Anyway, can the viewer tip ahead of time for an offline show on Kink? Also, can I look at my Kink mail while in free-chat there?

SophiaSylvan
03-31-2014, 03:35 PM
I just signed up yesterday early afternoon and was camming there by night! At first I thought the site looked unprofessional and sloppy, but it's actually rather streamlined from the inside. It's definitely a work-in-progress, the info for hosts leaves something to be desired, but support is great. Traffic is definitely low, but hardly any girls are on at any given time, so "competition" (I don't really view it that way) is slender. I tried some play sessions and they went OK for a first night. Even saw an old regular. Have to try it out more to report but I'm glad I saw this thread and locked in the 60% rate, oh so glad so thank you Space_Cowgirl! I think it has potential for kink hosts like us. Everyone I spoke with was into kink seriously, which was a welcome change from the usual at Streamate & such, that while there are many fetishists there, they're often such dabblers that they don't know a thing and have to be taught and introduced to everything. Just my first impression.

SophiaSylvan
03-31-2014, 03:48 PM
Damn. I was hoping that I could just fire away at the KINK_LIVE guy with all my no0b questions and not bother you ladies about anything.

That's kind of creepy. I know SM techs might be watching my SM privates, too, but at least I'm blissfully unaware. Plus, if I know they're watching, I'd be tempted to ask for constructive criticism. ("Hey tech dude, how was that SPH? Do you feel like your cock wants to shrivel up and fall off? No? Well, I guess I'll just try harder next time.")

Kink_Live guy said they don't have sound on often in the rooms, so it's better to address them via clicking on the private message link on their name. They responded to my question that way. And hahaha! It is a little odd knowing they're always watching, but I figure they're really watching TV or something at the same time and really bored by it all.

SophiaSylvan
03-31-2014, 03:58 PM
There has been a HUGE influx of cheap models signing up on Kink lately. And I've only been signed up for 4 months now. I think its because more models are aware of the 60% rate, and since they just announced they will be changing it. When I signed up there weren't a lot of cheap rates (there were some, but NO WHERE NEAR what its like today). I think that after a while most of those models will burn out on Kink when they don't make what they thought they would.

Also, it irritates me when I see allllll these models just using Kink to split cam with a shitty stream quality. I think they are just using Kink to split with because of the 60% too. Don't get me wrong splitting is fine, but don't do it at the cost of your stream quality. If you are going to split then make sure your computer can handle it. I don't think its the site that is making the quality bad either. I use the encoder (with the same SM settings) and my stream is clear and smooth. Not sure if you have to use the encoder for good quality or not, but I have seen models that don't use it and have great streams. I get the occasional issues just like any site does, but nothing more than a quick refresh fix.

I debated on what my rates should be. When I started the average rates where higher than SM, they have dropped dramatically since then. At first I made mine about $1 lower than SM and promoted the fuck out of the fact that it was cheaper for my clients to go there. I had my main regs follow me there, which was great! I figured, they are lower rates which will attract more clients and benefit my current clients, and I still make MORE per min than I would on SM. Win-win! But after a few weeks I raised my rates to about the same/a little bit more than my SM rates. The paying clients on Kink are willing to PAY and usually do MUCH longer shows on a regular basis. So now I make more than double what I was making on SM per min.

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That's the strategy I'm going for just getting started at Kinklive after doing Streamate for a few years!

Magical_Hoohah
03-31-2014, 09:35 PM
Tonight I finally got to do my first proper broadcast (I've previously only gotten on for a few minutes at a time to check out how it works). It was so much fun! I felt like it was kind of slow, but not bad for a small-ish, fetish site still in beta.

Then I got off and checked my earnings, and I think my jaw hit the floor. Maybe it's the new girl factor, or maybe that extra 25% adds up really fuckin fast, but my mind is blown in the best way!

Magical_Hoohah
03-31-2014, 09:46 PM
Kink_Live guy said they don't have sound on often in the rooms, so it's better to address them via clicking on the private message link on their name. They responded to my question that way. And hahaha! It is a little odd knowing they're always watching, but I figure they're really watching TV or something at the same time and really bored by it all.

I ended up PMing the KINK-HELP guy because there was an Anon in my free chat that was having some major difficulties figuring the site out, and there are only so many ways I can explain "you can't give me money without a cc on file." I think I said something like, "Hello, hopefully you're a real person and can see this. If so, could you chat with Anon ###, because I don't know how to answer all his technical questions." And then KINK-HELP disappeared from my room for a really long time. The Anon stopped asking tons of questions, though, so I assume the Help guy actually did something. I didn't get any direct response from him/her, though.

I guess the answer is: if you PM KINK-HELP, something happens, but I'm still not sure what. LOL!

RaeRae
03-31-2014, 11:35 PM
Hearing the tribute noise for the first time in a private scared the fuck out of me because of how loud it seemed.