View Full Version : The BoleynModels/InstantPay Thread
SimoneGray
03-25-2015, 09:32 PM
I'm super keen :) need a few more sites to add to the daily pay basket
Issabelle
03-25-2015, 11:45 PM
If I started the process of making a F4F account but didn't finish it, can I still make a daily pay account with you Katy?
KatyBoleyn
03-26-2015, 04:53 AM
Yes, you can make an account with us. If any other accounts were approved, then they'll need to be closed.
JustCallMeBree
03-28-2015, 02:44 PM
I have a new SM account but I want to go to daily pay. Do I need to close my account? How would I go about signing up?
KatyBoleyn
03-28-2015, 03:05 PM
Yes, you'll need another account. Contact us and we'll get you taken care of.
Skype: BoleynModels or Katy.Boleyn
Email:
[email protected]
KatyBoleyn
03-31-2015, 04:06 PM
Flirt4Free is up and running, we got our initial model signups:
If you have an active account and you have streamed before, there are no transfers. Sorry.
If you have not streamed, but have an approved account or one in progress of approval, you can email them for a transfer (tell us first, we'll give instructions).
New signups are by appointment only, its about a 30-45 minute process over Skype to get you set up, and have a printer/scanner handy.
Payout rate is 27% for daily pay (this is higher than direct signup of 26.4% unless you got a "special deal"), and will be going up more as earnings levels progress. We had a model make about $300 on her first night - they do have the spending traffic at that percent to make it worthwhile. They're also very antsy about having active models and earning models, so if you take our time and yours to sign up, please be prepared to work a bit.
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Also, P2P is being tested right now. We'll be integrating people in slowly over the next few weeks.
The bank is imposing some pretty harsh caps on p2p in the first 30 days of use, so daily pay people only and when we hit the cap for the month you'll be back to ACH. After the first month the caps are lifted, so May should be smooth sailing.
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For Streamate, I'm not sure we're completely out of the woods on tech issues but earnings have been trending upwards (a lot!) for the last few days. If you've been shying away due to issues, you may want to try again for a bit and see how it goes. SkyPrivate is also rocking big time, and we're really happy with the success there.
LaylaLovely
04-01-2015, 01:36 AM
:( I just streamed for a few mins tonight on f4f .. They kept bugging and bugging me to finish the last part..even called my phone number telling me to just stream for a few seconds just to activate ...o well
SimoneGray
04-01-2015, 07:08 AM
Flirt4Free is up and running, we got our initial model signups:
Payout rate is 27% for daily pay (this is higher than direct signup of 26.4% unless you got a "special deal"), and will be going up more as earnings levels progress. We had a model make about $300 on her first night - they do have the spending traffic at that percent to make it worthwhile. They're also very antsy about having active models and earning models, so if you take our time and yours to sign up, please be prepared to work a bit.
On my F4F dashboard it says my flat rate is 26.6%, is it actually 27% with you or is that part of the initial sign ups thing?
KatyBoleyn
04-01-2015, 07:20 AM
We're figuring it out slowly with the F4F. Yes, it is 27% now as they already raised our rates up a bit...and will keep going up as we go. We'll try to keep up with setting individual model accounts to the new rates (they don't let us do it across the studio), but sometimes you will actually have more money paid out than what they show.
AF camgirl
04-01-2015, 10:57 AM
I want to sign up with Cams, but I am curious if Cams will let you change names? I don't want to sign up with my official camname until i know what traffic/earning potential is like there. Does anyone know if name changes are possible without account restart?
KatyBoleyn
04-01-2015, 11:55 AM
Yes, we can make screen name changes on Cams with no problems.
Vlodina
04-01-2015, 12:48 PM
26.6-27%!!! *Spits wine all over tits*. I was considering trying f4f but SM takes enough as it is! Fuck a duck!
KatyBoleyn
04-01-2015, 04:14 PM
We've taken a more pragmatic approach to percentages. If you can sit on a site and walk away with $100+ per hour, the percent is pretty irrelevant. Its when they take that huge percent and still nickel and dime you for refunds and chargebacks, have zero traffic, or force your prices to rock bottom with various gimmicks - then its a bad site.
SarahTime
04-01-2015, 04:33 PM
Flirt4Free is up and running, we got our initial model signups:
If you have an active account and you have streamed before, there are no transfers. Sorry.
If you have not streamed, but have an approved account or one in progress of approval, you can email them for a transfer (tell us first, we'll give instructions).
New signups are by appointment only, its about a 30-45 minute process over Skype to get you set up, and have a printer/scanner handy.
Payout rate is 27% for daily pay (this is higher than direct signup of 26.4% unless you got a "special deal"), and will be going up more as earnings levels progress. We had a model make about $300 on her first night - they do have the spending traffic at that percent to make it worthwhile. They're also very antsy about having active models and earning models, so if you take our time and yours to sign up, please be prepared to work a bit.
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Also, P2P is being tested right now. We'll be integrating people in slowly over the next few weeks.
The bank is imposing some pretty harsh caps on p2p in the first 30 days of use, so daily pay people only and when we hit the cap for the month you'll be back to ACH. After the first month the caps are lifted, so May should be smooth sailing.
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For Streamate, I'm not sure we're completely out of the woods on tech issues but earnings have been trending upwards (a lot!) for the last few days. If you've been shying away due to issues, you may want to try again for a bit and see how it goes. SkyPrivate is also rocking big time, and we're really happy with the success there.
Aww! I was actually going to try to transfer to your daily pay studio for F4F if you were able to get a better percentage. :( Everyone that I have directed to request 35% instead of the sliding scale has been approved without question. Have you asked them to give your studio a higher cut?
KatyBoleyn
04-01-2015, 04:56 PM
Update: We now got the rate (barely) above 30%, so we're setting it to flat 30% (same as SM daily pay) and calling it a day. We'll just eat the expenses until we "climb their tiers". Why can't they just give us a chart to follow instead of making us call them 2-3x per day?
http://boleynmodels.com/boleynmodels-network/flirt4free-daily-pay/
Anyways, its settled...daily pay at the same rate as SM.
SimoneGray
04-01-2015, 06:00 PM
^^ That is exciting.
SarahTime
04-01-2015, 07:00 PM
Update: We now got the rate (barely) above 30%, so we're setting it to flat 30% (same as SM daily pay) and calling it a day. We'll just eat the expenses until we "climb their tiers". Why can't they just give us a chart to follow instead of making us call them 2-3x per day?
http://boleynmodels.com/boleynmodels-network/flirt4free-daily-pay/
Anyways, its settled...daily pay at the same rate as SM.
That's great news!!! Are we able to transfer to you or would it be close completely and start new?
PrincessLavender
04-01-2015, 07:59 PM
I just signed up for your studio. I want direct deposit into my checking account and put in my routing and account number but it also made me put in an email for P2P even it though it said it was optional. Are they basically the same thing? I put in the email attached to my checking account.
I would also like to transfer my F4F account. How should I do that?
KatyBoleyn
04-01-2015, 08:49 PM
F4F is still being straightened out...one battle at a time. Currently transfers go by whatever mood the tech support is in, and generally if you have streamed you can't transfer. Accounts are for life, so no restarts. They have a very strange culture there...like I'm supposed to sit there with you and fill out your entire profile so I can "get to know the model better." (yes, exact quote)
Also, for direct deposit our bank uses the email address attached to the account, even if its not p2p, so it can send notifications of your payments being made. It still should be optional, I'll have hubby see if he made that a required field accidentally.
LaylaLovely
04-01-2015, 09:15 PM
^^ that sux I'm dreading two week payments on f4fim used to that quick cash now lol.. I wish I knew before I streamed for a few mins uggghh.. Pls update me if this changes in the future
Issabelle
04-01-2015, 09:43 PM
I'm about to go try F4F now. Thank you to Katy for busting your metaphorical balls to make them transfer me (new account, never streamed) and thank you to Sarah for turning me on to F4F!
DancesWithSloths
04-02-2015, 06:24 AM
A quick sanity check: on the Model Sign-up page, the name you want is my legal name, right? Likewise, Paxum account name is the legal name used on Paxum, correct?
Signed,
Super Bad at Forms
KatyBoleyn
04-02-2015, 07:11 AM
Yes to both questions, some people use a spouse account (or account opened under a maiden name) so we need to always check that.
And small FYI, "Name of Bank" is not your own name again, unless you actually are a bank (about half of our signups do that).
JessRyan
04-02-2015, 08:32 AM
Damn! I just found this thread and will finish reading through it tonight. Very interesting!
KatyBoleyn
04-02-2015, 10:28 AM
By request, we've just added Camplace.com
It looks like another 5-cent token site, so will fall in line with MFC and CB for payouts.
They're also running a bunch of different contests and such. We'll get the signup sheet up on our website soon. As soon as we talk to a real person we'll also figure out if there's transfers available.
PrincessLavender
04-04-2015, 10:42 PM
I just transferred my cams account to your studio and started on IMLive with you. I've read through the thread but so many things have changed since it was started I wanted to verify some things if you don't mind. It's gonna be long and filled with questions so please bear with me. Lol.
1. I followed the instructions to transfer my Cams account and got an email confirmation from them that it was transferred but I didn't get one from BoleynModels. (Not sure if I was supposed to or not). I don't have an option to update payment options anymore so I'm assuming everything is ok?
2. The amount in my cams earnings is not exactly what I'm getting, right?
3. I opened an IMLive account too. I saw the payment percentage is 30% as long as you have an account on a main site also (cams in my case) and at least half of your income comes from there. I worked both last night for the first time while in the studio and made more on IMLive. Does that mean my percentage will drop or is it based on an average (say, your monthly average for cams has to be more than ImLive. If that makes sense)
4. The amount in my IML earnings is what I will get through daily pay, correct?
5. Currently, there is no way to verify a payment was sent to me, other than by emailing support?
6. I chose direct deposit and it takes your bank 3 days to verify my bank. So the earliest possible time I would get my earnings from last night is Thurs? 3 days for verifying and a day for it to clear? Best case scenario.
7. What are the cut off times for IML and Cams?
8. If I wanted to join your studio in order the get direct deposit from SM my only options are starting completely over and getting the new model tag, or opening a new account but having my ratings, fav, etc transferred too? What happens to my Cammodels guys if I do that? I make an average of $30 a week from them. It's not much, but it's $30 I don't have to work for. Lol.
9. Is $20 the minimum payment? And is it $20 for each site, or $20 overall?
10. If I work 2 sites in one day and make payment on both, will I get 2 deposits or would it be one lump sum?
I think that's all for now. I was going to email this but I thought someone else my benefit from it too. Lol.
Issabelle
04-04-2015, 11:27 PM
I can answer your #9 and #10
The minimum payout is $20 (unless it's been lowered by Katy to 'clear' the books on a weekend or such, but this is the exception, not the rule). It's across all sites, not $20 on each. I have like half a dozen with her and sometimes I make $2 on MFC and $100 on SM and another $40 on CMD and I get all of the money. I also get the entire days money lump sum, not in individual payments, so if I made $150 across all sites, I get $150 instead of small payments from each individual site at the same time.
KatyBoleyn
04-05-2015, 01:16 AM
I just transferred my cams account to your studio and started on IMLive with you. I've read through the thread but so many things have changed since it was started I wanted to verify some things if you don't mind. It's gonna be long and filled with questions so please bear with me. Lol.
1. I followed the instructions to transfer my Cams account and got an email confirmation from them that it was transferred but I didn't get one from BoleynModels. (Not sure if I was supposed to or not). I don't have an option to update payment options anymore so I'm assuming everything is ok?
2. The amount in my cams earnings is not exactly what I'm getting, right?
3. I opened an IMLive account too. I saw the payment percentage is 30% as long as you have an account on a main site also (cams in my case) and at least half of your income comes from there. I worked both last night for the first time while in the studio and made more on IMLive. Does that mean my percentage will drop or is it based on an average (say, your monthly average for cams has to be more than ImLive. If that makes sense)
4. The amount in my IML earnings is what I will get through daily pay, correct?
5. Currently, there is no way to verify a payment was sent to me, other than by emailing support?
6. I chose direct deposit and it takes your bank 3 days to verify my bank. So the earliest possible time I would get my earnings from last night is Thurs? 3 days for verifying and a day for it to clear? Best case scenario.
7. What are the cut off times for IML and Cams?
8. If I wanted to join your studio in order the get direct deposit from SM my only options are starting completely over and getting the new model tag, or opening a new account but having my ratings, fav, etc transferred too? What happens to my Cammodels guys if I do that? I make an average of $30 a week from them. It's not much, but it's $30 I don't have to work for. Lol.
9. Is $20 the minimum payment? And is it $20 for each site, or $20 overall?
10. If I work 2 sites in one day and make payment on both, will I get 2 deposits or would it be one lump sum?
I think that's all for now. I was going to email this but I thought someone else my benefit from it too. Lol.
1) Generally not, if you have the confirmation from Cams.com and we know who you are, its good. If they do the transfer without filling out a main signup, people will come looking for their money eventually :)
2) Nope, only SM and F4F (and IMLive in some cases) can do that currently.
3) We set it at 30% generally, and so long as we see you're trying and not gaming the system, then it stays at the full 30.
4) Yep
5) We're moving accounts over to the new bank slowly, and they do have email notification for all payments sent. Now that I'm used to batch processing, I'm gonna miss it :( A problem we were having was many models had "sexy time" emails for their notifications, and I didn't want that being attached to their banking in any way. (If our database programmer wouldn't disappear for days at a time), we're also getting a dashboard with full real-time accounting on it. Its actually working, just needs polish.
6) Yes, that's the idea. I've been pushing things through sooner if everything looks good though.
7) Cutoff for everything is around 10am CST on business days, sometimes up to 2 hours later if we get a lot of people asking or we see a lot working.
8) Most people just write them off. I do know Gold Club people can transfer, I can ask about Cammodels people. If you ever do leave and re-open that account, some of that money will be waiting.
9+10) That's what she said...
PrincessLavender
04-05-2015, 07:11 AM
Thanks Katy and Issabelle! If I can transfer my cammodel guys I would be willing to transfer my SM to your studio. Not for daily pay, just for the direct deposit. It took me 6 years to build up what I have in cammodel sign ups and don't really want to lose them. :(
DancesWithSloths
04-07-2015, 10:30 AM
I've finally finished dawdling and joined the network, and filled in a transfer form for SM over the Easter weekend. So keen on daily pay right now, you wouldn't believe :)
I can't decide whether to have new model status or transfer favourites. I have about 1700 faves and copious notes on customers, and my placement is decent, but the traffic in the last month or so hasn't been spectacular.
Can anyone offer any arguments for or against?
Addison Lynne
04-07-2015, 10:35 AM
Katy I tried to join CMD last week and must have done something wrong. Am I showing up with them, or should I try again?
Thanks!
hyori
04-07-2015, 10:35 AM
In my opinion, it's better to keep your faves, comments, regulars etc. than to have new model status. With new model status you get the fuckers who tell you how to run your room, try to fake tip you, bargain with you, and try to take advantage of you. Who needs that shit?
Tsepmet1
04-07-2015, 10:41 AM
In my opinion, it's better to keep your faves, comments, regulars etc. than to have new model status. With new model status you get the fuckers who tell you how to run your room, try to fake tip you, bargain with you, and try to take advantage of you. Who needs that shit?
I agree. Having new model status again was more annoying than it was worth.
DancesWithSloths
04-07-2015, 10:55 AM
Thank you, ladies. I like when you agree with what I think anyway. Most of all I'm addicted to having my anthropological-research-level notes system, and if that means sticking it out till traffic picks up, so be it.
TJ__Merlot
04-07-2015, 03:30 PM
Can I just say- I've been with your studio for a week and it has been a GOD send. Daily pay is where it's at. I feel like all my money stress has melted away. Love you guys!!!
KatyBoleyn
04-07-2015, 05:41 PM
Katy I tried to join CMD last week and must have done something wrong. Am I showing up with them, or should I try again?
Thanks!
I didn't find your CMD application with us, so maybe you signed up with them directly. If you could send me an email with your CMD name I can check it further...it could also be a matter of just not having the accounts linked in our system.
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As for the favorites thing, what we've been recommending is riding out New Model for about a week, then getting the transfers. That way you get the best of both worlds. After restarting your SM account, the top priority is to get those ratings and get a few hours logged.
Streamate is HOT this week, and I have no explanation for why. Its almost Camathon levels, and we've broken the previous earnings records for a non-contest week so far. CMD also picked up a lot of steam this weekend (its very "bursty") while SkyPrivate is more slow-climbing turtle.
We also figured out for right now, direct deposit to accounts with our new bank is actually faster than their p2p option. Payments are made at around 2pm and post around 4-5pm (using the P2P option they still show up next day). We'll have another (much requested) payment option soon. The dashboard is fully functional and is currently being ported to a secure server, and we'll start issuing logins for testing - I'm sure lots of things will be broken, but I'm still using the original books so nothing will get lost. All the chaos should clear out just in time for us to meet you all at the BBWCon :)
Issabelle
04-08-2015, 03:17 PM
Streamate is HOT this week, and I have no explanation for why. Its almost Camathon levels, and we've broken the previous earnings records for a non-contest week so far. CMD also picked up a lot of steam this weekend (its very "bursty") while SkyPrivate is more slow-climbing turtle.
We also figured out for right now, direct deposit to accounts with our new bank is actually faster than their p2p option. Payments are made at around 2pm and post around 4-5pm (using the P2P option they still show up next day). We'll have another (much requested) payment option soon. The dashboard is fully functional and is currently being ported to a secure server, and we'll start issuing logins for testing - I'm sure lots of things will be broken, but I'm still using the original books so nothing will get lost. All the chaos should clear out just in time for us to meet you all at the BBWCon :)
Fuck YEAH! I'm gonna have to hit SM hard tonight then. Been lazy all week and so relieved to hear my taxes were gonna be as low as they are.
Can't wait to try the new platform. Pretty please put me on top of the beta testers group? You know how anal I am about my books, so you'll be getting the 18,000,000 questions and pokes from me for days. You'll have to decide if that's a good or bad beta tester, lol.
DancesWithSloths
04-09-2015, 03:42 AM
When I send a support question through the BM website form, should I expect an automatic acknowledgement, or something on the form that says "the question has been sent"? I don't want to flood support with identical queries, but there's nothing to say you guys have received it in the first place.
KatyBoleyn
04-09-2015, 04:46 AM
Fixed. Somehow NinjaForms updated a few months ago and it ate about half our things on there. New site coming soon though :)
RaeRae
04-11-2015, 12:55 PM
Good news everybody!
I was able to work out how to make affiliate links which give out revshare for money spent by customers for our models on Chaturbate since they don't have the links out in the open for studio models after some experimentation with my CB model account! If you would like I can make them for you and email them to you, if you send me one bit of information and email it to me at
[email protected]!
The information I need is just the basic affiliate link they give to both models and customers located here (https://chaturbate.com/tipping/free_tokens/) in the Linkbox under the heading Earn tokens by referring friends.
http://i.imgur.com/kNtTHVSm.png (http://imgur.com/kNtTHVS.png)
Click picture to see exactly what I need! (I need the whole link so make sure to copy and paste the entire thing.)
The link located on that page allows you to earn up to 10 tokens for every registered user and 500 tokens for users who broadcast (broadcasters must earn $20.00 before they qualify). With the ones I create for you, you can have ones which will pay the following
$1.00 Pay Per Registration + $50.00 Per Broadcaster + 5% Referred Affiliate
or
Revshare - 20% of Money Spent + $50 per broadcaster + 5% Referred Affiliate
You can send guys directly to your room or someone else's (even random ones) or to the Chaturbate tour or homepage. Any money made this way is paid out the same as money earned from broadcasting.
KatyBoleyn
04-12-2015, 01:18 PM
Short announcements...big push this week for the website stuff.
We're mining our emails and the boards for testimonials as a finishing touch for the website. We'll cross-reference it with the permissions and use your affiliate link and cam name if we can find it and the release is on file. If you want to volunteer a testimonial, feel free to email it to us. These will be unpaid and carry no other benefit, to make sure of a minimal degree of integrity. We aren't going to round up sweatshop workers and have them hold signs (cough *IM* cough).
We've delayed dashboard launch another few days to put in the weekly/instant pay module, automated advances, and the affiliate recruiting program from the start.
Catch me on Skype if you want a sneak preview of the dashboard or the site.
Also, we cut our own sweet deal with SM for Eastern Europe...coming soon.
And finally...Payoneer. Done and ready on the back end. We'll offer that as an option as soon as we get the cash flows worked out (we have some sites loading it now).
BeautifulJaleesa
04-14-2015, 01:34 AM
Just wanna say that DailyPay has been a life saver! I love this "studio" !
JustCallMeBree
04-14-2015, 09:29 AM
Hello! I'm trying to do an income verification. What would I put as far as the bussiness name, address and were could they call for a verification? Thank you!
KatyBoleyn
04-14-2015, 12:21 PM
We'll let you know in a private email :)
JustCallMeBree
04-14-2015, 01:24 PM
Thank you!
Candy_Woman
04-15-2015, 09:20 PM
Hello! I'm trying to enroll in the study, but ask me a number of Paxum account and I do not have, so do not let me send the inscripición.
KatyBoleyn
04-16-2015, 09:18 AM
If you set your country to the correct one at the start of the form, it shouldn't ask you for any numbers for your Paxum account.
bigbootyjudy1
04-16-2015, 09:48 AM
If you set your country to the correct one at the start of the form, it shouldn't ask you for any numbers for your Paxum account.
Do you guys think you might ever add adultwork to the mix?I hate getting checks from Adultwork .Sighh
KatyBoleyn
04-16-2015, 12:30 PM
Its on the list but down a little bit. For that we'll need to figure out their system and how to work within it. I never personally worked on AW.
Candy_Woman
04-16-2015, 03:23 PM
If you set your country to the correct one at the start of the form, it shouldn't ask you for any numbers for your Paxum account.
I did, but it still ask me.