View Full Version : The BoleynModels/InstantPay Thread
LolaLu
11-18-2017, 03:41 PM
So how does a UK girl sign up to BM for NF then? And what are the rates etc?
Where can I locate the newsletter? Was it sent via email? If so, I don’t see it there & I ready scoured the site!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-19-2017, 01:16 AM
Where can I locate the newsletter? Was it sent via email? If so, I don’t see it there & I ready scoured the site!
You can ready it here The Boleyn Models Newsletter: Winter Is Coming 2017 (https://admin.boleynmodels.com/ref?page=blog/the-boleyn-models-newsletter/&campaign=12&affToken=NTc2)
Goldenx.Chiquis
11-19-2017, 08:43 AM
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Aw, damn of course there are trials buttt... Lmao between Niteflirt and IWC/C4S/MV those will probably be 50/50. :ashamed: I just frickkin hate camsites lol. Nexocams MIGHT sway me to try web camming again :eyebrow: since C4S is mainly known for fetish... Hmmm I'm just waiting for the trials to be over hopefully by January:mischievo
DancesWithSloths
11-19-2017, 10:26 AM
Aw, damn of course there are trials buttt... Lmao between Niteflirt and IWC/C4S/MV those will probably be 50/50. :ashamed: I just frickkin hate camsites lol.
I suspect you won't have to move all your characters at once, especially if you don't get up to 50% with other sites. I'm personally planning either to start a whole new character, or move one of my low-key profiles, until everything is working smoothly and everyone is happy.
Goldenx.Chiquis
11-19-2017, 10:30 AM
I suspect you won't have to move all your characters at once, especially if you don't get up to 50% with other sites. I'm personally planning either to start a whole new character, or move one of my low-key profiles, until everything is working smoothly and everyone is happy.
I'm not sure what you meant by that. I was referring to the fact that I won't be able to use Niteflirt yet because it would be more than 50% of my income. Along with clip sites being the other 50% since I don't use cam sites. I haven't made clips yet but I'll be actively using BM this upcoming year.
MelindaDeaner
11-19-2017, 03:41 PM
Newsletter is out!
There are some relatively importantish things in there, so please make sure to check it out in the near future.
Hi Katy,
I have a few questions regarding the newsletter that was just sent out:
I already have XModels acct-Will BM allow to convert accts over or do we need to close out the one we currently have and start a new one thru BM? I never worked on the site -I only tested it out for like 30 min or less awhile back, & only made like 30 cents thus far.
As far as •NexoCams (Clips4Sale’s Live Cams and social club option)- I currently do not do any content selling as far as videos & photos go but it says Live Cams so am curious if NexoCams will also offer models to do Skype Show sells?
As for NiteFlirt: I am already a NiteFlirt Model & already have an account I created and created all 14 of my listings: When open enrollment starts for NiteFlirt will we be allowed to convert our accounts we already have to BM or will we need to delete our current NiteFlirt accts to start a new one with BM? Reason is b/c it took me a long time to make my 14 listings: I on the other hand have never got any calls frm NiteFlirt for some reason and have my settings set to available for calls so technically I just have an active account but have never actually worked on NiteFlirt yet. (I can't figure out how to get any traffic to my listings & I never have any extra money to pay to bid for better placement for my listings & I do not have a following yet to direct anyone to NiteFlirt right now)
I should now be at the 6 month mark working for BM but have a question regarding -Must have significant income on another sites w/ BM-I am w/ BM for StripChat although I have yet to really work on that site yet, CMD, SkyPrivate, Streamate, IndieBill-and I was bringing in ok income to BM but now with Streamate paying traffic being so dead and my Skype sites have also took a nose dive this month even when I keep promoting them on Twitter My income w/ BM has declined some-so will this be affected for NiteFlirt?
Lastly re. Niteflirt-What do you mean about: 3.Must have history of prompt advance repayment???
KatyBoleyn
11-19-2017, 05:22 PM
Hi Katy,
I have a few questions regarding the newsletter that was just sent out:
I already have XModels acct-Will BM allow to convert accts over or do we need to close out the one we currently have and start a new one thru BM? I never worked on the site -I only tested it out for like 30 min or less awhile back, & only made like 30 cents thus far.
As far as •NexoCams (Clips4Sale’s Live Cams and social club option)- I currently do not do any content selling as far as videos & photos go but it says Live Cams so am curious if NexoCams will also offer models to do Skype Show sells?
As for NiteFlirt: I am already a NiteFlirt Model & already have an account I created and created all 14 of my listings: When open enrollment starts for NiteFlirt will we be allowed to convert our accounts we already have to BM or will we need to delete our current NiteFlirt accts to start a new one with BM? Reason is b/c it took me a long time to make my 14 listings: I on the other hand have never got any calls frm NiteFlirt for some reason and have my settings set to available for calls so technically I just have an active account but have never actually worked on NiteFlirt yet. (I can't figure out how to get any traffic to my listings & I never have any extra money to pay to bid for better placement for my listings & I do not have a following yet to direct anyone to NiteFlirt right now)
I should now be at the 6 month mark working for BM but have a question regarding -Must have significant income on another sites w/ BM-I am w/ BM for StripChat although I have yet to really work on that site yet, CMD, SkyPrivate, Streamate, IndieBill-and I was bringing in ok income to BM but now with Streamate paying traffic being so dead and my Skype sites have also took a nose dive this month even when I keep promoting them on Twitter My income w/ BM has declined some-so will this be affected for NiteFlirt?
Lastly re. Niteflirt-What do you mean about: 3.Must have history of prompt advance repayment???
Xmodels - Yes, full transfers are available.
NexoCams - If they don't explicitly allow it, I would use other methods to bill for Skype shows. We have several options with much higher payouts.
Niteflirt - No need to delete anything, the only thing that changes is where the money goes on the accounts. You keep your profile and anything in it, as well as your reserve. This also creates a significant risk for us, hence the reliability requirements. These will relax over time as we see the exact timing and how much risk we can mitigate.
14 inactive accounts would be a non-starter. Each account is checked by hand daily. What we don't want is to spend our entire day logging into hundreds of dead accounts. We've already cut out a lot of inactive ManyVids accounts for the same reason. We have a few ideas about how to automate this a bit better going forward, so this will also relax over time.
MelindaDeaner
11-19-2017, 06:10 PM
Xmodels - Yes, full transfers are available.
NexoCams - If they don't explicitly allow it, I would use other methods to bill for Skype shows. We have several options with much higher payouts.
Niteflirt - No need to delete anything, the only thing that changes is where the money goes on the accounts. You keep your profile and anything in it, as well as your reserve. This also creates a significant risk for us, hence the reliability requirements. These will relax over time as we see the exact timing and how much risk we can mitigate.
14 inactive accounts would be a non-starter. Each account is checked by hand daily. What we don't want is to spend our entire day logging into hundreds of dead accounts. We've already cut out a lot of inactive ManyVids accounts for the same reason. We have a few ideas about how to automate this a bit better going forward, so this will also relax over time.
Katy, Regarding what you said about 14 inactive accounts would be a non-starter. Is this to get on with BM for NiteFlirt? Would I need to sign up for more sites w/ BM to get NiteFlirt to BM? I am with SM, SkyPrivate, CMD, IndieBill (Many Vids-but never had any traffic to refer anyone to MV) I do have an active account with Cams directly and never wanted to close out that account being I have a following on there therefore I was not able to have Cams thru BM without deleting the original. I am already also with IMLive thru there studio before I learned abut Boleyn Models which is with EnticeLive & they too have Daily Pay) If I don't have to start a new acct and can keep my following w/ IMLive I'd be happy if I am allowed to convert my IMLive acct over to BM so most of my earnings will all be thru the same place/studio if that is an option? I also have a CB Acct which I created a couple mths back via BM studio-I have not yet streamed on the BM CB Acct as I am not good w/ token sites tho) I also have a Cams4 Acct but I never use that acct b/c I never could get any paying customers but one time (If BM allows to convert Cams4 Acct I can do that) I also have a IFriends Acct I have never broadcasted on b/c heard the traffic was not good but if I can convert IFriends Acct I will do that also)
Goldenx.Chiquis
11-19-2017, 06:28 PM
How long will the Niteflirt trials be? I'm hopping to use Niteflirt as my first stream of Daily pay $$$. Hopefully it'll be available to all by January. :)
KatyBoleyn
11-19-2017, 07:51 PM
Katy, Regarding what you said about 14 inactive accounts would be a non-starter. Is this to get on with BM for NiteFlirt? Would I need to sign up for more sites w/ BM to get NiteFlirt to BM? I am with SM, SkyPrivate, CMD, IndieBill (Many Vids-but never had any traffic to refer anyone to MV) I do have an active account with Cams directly and never wanted to close out that account being I have a following on there therefore I was not able to have Cams thru BM without deleting the original. I am already also with IMLive thru there studio before I learned abut Boleyn Models which is with EnticeLive & they too have Daily Pay) If I don't have to start a new acct and can keep my following w/ IMLive I'd be happy if I am allowed to convert my IMLive acct over to BM so most of my earnings will all be thru the same place/studio if that is an option? I also have a CB Acct which I created a couple mths back via BM studio-I have not yet streamed on the BM CB Acct as I am not good w/ token sites tho) I also have a Cams4 Acct but I never use that acct b/c I never could get any paying customers but one time (If BM allows to convert Cams4 Acct I can do that) I also have a IFriends Acct I have never broadcasted on b/c heard the traffic was not good but if I can convert IFriends Acct I will do that also)
This might be a better conversation to have privately. Everyone's talents, schedule time, and situation is different.
How long will the Niteflirt trials be? I'm hopping to use Niteflirt as my first stream of Daily pay $$$. Hopefully it'll be available to all by January. :)
You are free to get established on NF. They do have a "daily pay" of sorts already for US models, though I think the delay is 3 to 5 days maybe. It likely won't be available as a "first site" for quite a while with us.
Goldenx.Chiquis
11-19-2017, 08:20 PM
You are free to get established on NF. They do have a "daily pay" of sorts already for US models, though I think the delay is 3 to 5 days maybe. It likely won't be available as a "first site" for quite a while with us.
Aw damn, well that sucks cause I hate waiting 3-5 days for "express pay" doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Thats why I been waiting for BM to collaborate with them. :( Well I'll just get it set to monthly pay (since it actually arrives at a set time) until it's available to be counted for more than 50% income. Hopefully when I start releasing clips next year I'll be making a fair amount to make payout frequently. :-X
KatyBoleyn
11-24-2017, 05:54 PM
For affiliates, the tools for making your recruiting links just got a lot more robust. You can now track your hits, conversions, etc. You can also set up custom links, landing pages, and recruiting campaigns.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-08-2017, 05:17 PM
Have Y'all seen this yet? The 3 Day Twitter Contest...
http://boleynmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/boleynmodels_holiday_contest.jpg
https://twitter.com/BoleynModels/status/939088362006335489
TheBrownFox
12-11-2017, 02:09 AM
So I'm pretty excited that tonight I was able to recover my old Skype account. :) I've been wanting to rejoin SkyPrivate and Cam Model Directory, except I'd like to have it be under Boleyn Models daily pay. I logged into my Boleyn Models account, and it said I needed to update my 2257 form before I can register for any more sites. I just did that, so as soon as that gets approved, I'll sign up for those sites.
caramelcraze
12-12-2017, 04:47 AM
With the upcoming streamate bonus,would you please break down what our take home percentage will be?
KatyBoleyn
12-12-2017, 07:33 AM
With the upcoming streamate bonus,would you please break down what out take home percentage will be?
You'll get as a basis your regular 30%.
On the 29th'ish they'll give you 30% of your total for that week, on the basis as if you had made 35%. This is a bonus so we don't take a percent. 10.5% bonus.
Your total effective (eventual) take home rate for that week: 40.5%
If you work at least 6 days, you can also get our weekly bonus, adding up to 5% more to that, so up to 45.5% total.
Note this is only for Gold and Regular shows. All extra/bonus income is not subject to either bonus (.cammodels, video sales, etc).
START NOW to get your placement up before next week, Streamate will be a mad house.
caramelcraze
12-12-2017, 08:34 AM
Fantastic!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/26263eced3747e6c922a9ae885fe55da/tenor.gif
thanks for the info!
AudreyMyers
12-12-2017, 05:55 PM
You'll get as a basis your regular 30%.
On the 29th'ish they'll give you 30% of your total for that week, on the basis as if you had made 35%. This is a bonus so we don't take a percent. 14.5% bonus.
Your total effective (eventual) take home rate for that week: 45.5%
If you work at least 6 days, you can also get our weekly bonus, adding up to 5% more to that, so up to 50.5% total.
Note this is only for Gold and Regular shows. All extra/bonus income is not subject to either bonus (.cammodels, video sales, etc).
START NOW to get your placement up before next week, Streamate will be a mad house.
For the Bunny Bonus days back in April they gave us 50% of our total based on our normal 30% so did they change it to the basis of making 35% for this one since it's a lower bonus percentage?
KatyBoleyn
12-13-2017, 08:14 AM
For the Bunny Bonus days back in April they gave us 50% of our total based on our normal 30% so did they change it to the basis of making 35% for this one since it's a lower bonus percentage?
We have a few options to make sure that its from the 35% basis.
Teddy_Bear
12-13-2017, 09:37 AM
I didn't take into account the BM bonus on top of the SM bonus. If my internet holds up for me then it could well be my highest earning week ever at this rate. I'm actually excited.
DancesWithSloths
12-14-2017, 05:35 PM
Loved hearing from Ms Taja on SexWorkBB podcast! <3
https://soundcloud.com/sex-work-bb/boelyn-models-explained-by-taja-thick-swbb27
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-14-2017, 07:57 PM
Round Two
http://boleynmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/boleynmodels_twittercontest_1214.jpg
pixiepower329
12-15-2017, 06:31 AM
Sigh... that's great for people with followings....
sweetandnaughty
12-19-2017, 10:24 PM
Hey Katy,. How do we know who won the prizes each day this week? Last year you named who got what. Will you do that again?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-19-2017, 11:15 PM
Hey Katy,. How do we know who won the prizes each day this week? Last year you named who got what. Will you do that again?
You can follow on twitter at @BoleynModels (http://www.twitter.com/boleynmodels) SW has a no outing policy that's a bit antiquated and sometimes it gets tricky. I'm trying to work that out. :)
sweetandnaughty
12-21-2017, 05:35 PM
Katy, quick question. For the SM bonus this week, when do we get that in our daily pay? Is it next week after the holidays or after December 30 when SM calculate everything?
KatyBoleyn
12-22-2017, 08:45 AM
Katy, quick question. For the SM bonus this week, when do we get that in our daily pay? Is it next week after the holidays or after December 30 when SM calculate everything?
Since you asked so nicely :)
If, by cutoff time today, your bonus is theoretically over $50 for the week we'll go ahead and advance that to you with today's payment. On December 30th we'll scramble to make sure the difference and all other bonuses go out at before the end of the year.
We're also kicking in 10% more to your bonus so it will come to 33%. Merry Christmas !!!
KatyBoleyn
12-22-2017, 01:24 PM
Streamate Holiday Bonuses have been "pre-paid". We estimated pretty close to what it should be and credited you for it today if you have over $50. This will be adjusted when the final numbers come out December 30'ish.
There still is another day left for the 33% + a Christmas weekend contest for SM, and we still have 2 more prize packs to give away.
Reminder that there are no payments in or out on Christmas Day. December 26th will be business as usual.
sweetandnaughty
12-22-2017, 03:21 PM
Streamate Holiday Bonuses have been "pre-paid". We estimated pretty close to what it should be and credited you for it today if you have over $50. This will be adjusted when the final numbers come out December 30'ish.
There still is another day left for the 33% + a Christmas weekend contest for SM, and we still have 2 more prize packs to give away.
Reminder that there are no payments in or out on Christmas Day. December 26th will be business as usual.
Woohoo! Another benefit of being a BM model..we get our bonus before everyone else!! Best Christmas gift ever!! Thank you Katy!!!! Happy holidays!!xoxo
h0ttie
12-27-2017, 05:27 AM
i'm wondering about 1099s
say we switched in the middle of the year, will we be receiving 1 from streamate and 1 from boleyn models?
also i need to change my address so if streamate is supposed to send me something not sure how i can update my address with them
KatyBoleyn
12-27-2017, 07:51 AM
i'm wondering about 1099s
say we switched in the middle of the year, will we be receiving 1 from streamate and 1 from boleyn models?
also i need to change my address so if streamate is supposed to send me something not sure how i can update my address with them
Yes, if you switched in the middle of the year you may receive 2.
Now is the time to send a change of address to their support from the email associated with the old account. It will get forwarded to the right place.
SuperPookie
12-27-2017, 12:41 PM
Is iWantClips no longer covered? I've had a tiny amount there for awhile and have been paid from some other places
KatyBoleyn
12-27-2017, 01:38 PM
IwantClips and IwantPhone is working just fine. Please contact Rae or I and we can figure out what happened.
pixiepower329
12-28-2017, 04:52 PM
So the bonuses are applied to our pay adjustments now (they messed up the decimals.. I'm sure that'll be fixed shortly). But.. it looks like they gave us our bonus based on 30% of our 30%... not on 30% of what 35% would have been.
KatyBoleyn
12-28-2017, 06:01 PM
So the bonuses are applied to our pay adjustments now (they messed up the decimals.. I'm sure that'll be fixed shortly). But.. it looks like they gave us our bonus based on 30% of our 30%... not on 30% of what 35% would have been.
They did, and we'll be adjusting them ourselves. We'll pay an extra 10% out of our pocket. We tried to make the argument that it was silly to base it an arbitrary number we set, but they played dumb.
AudreyMyers
12-28-2017, 06:31 PM
They did, and we'll be adjusting them ourselves. We'll pay an extra 10% out of our pocket. We tried to make the argument that it was silly to base it an arbitrary number we set, but they played dumb.
Yikes, that's unfortunate that they don't understand why it's silly to base it off of our 30% but thank you for trying and for paying it yourselves.
pixiepower329
12-28-2017, 06:41 PM
Thank you for being epic, Katy!!
MistressX
12-29-2017, 12:08 AM
I just signed up on the site. I already work for a studio, though. I've been with them for nearly 10 years and I'm not 100% sure yet I want to switch studios because I have to fill out a K1 fiance visa application for my fiance in february and I dont think they're going to like seeing a change in my employment. But how would the transfer process happen if I choose to go that route? I am trying to read this whole thread but there are 88 pages lol
KatyBoleyn
12-29-2017, 12:19 AM
I just signed up on the site. I already work for a studio, though. I've been with them for nearly 10 years. But I need to get my butt in gear and would like to transfer if possible, how can I do that?
It totally depends on whether your studio will release you or enough time has passed since your last stream. Many studios are starting to let you go for a fee...slightly less assholish than just ignoring you out of spite.
MistressX
12-29-2017, 12:51 AM
I'm pretty good friends with the guys that run it. I dont think it would be a problem. I may have to wait until after we file the K1 I dont know. I jumped the gun on it a little haha.. I have to do some more research. I also have a bit of a soft spot for them, as they've bent over backwards for me throughout the years. But all things must pass and I think they are slowly but surely getting out of the cam business... They only have a few models left in their studio I think and I really dont make them that much money, so first I'll figure out if it'll negatively impact my K1 case and get back to you.
KatyBoleyn
12-29-2017, 07:28 AM
I'm pretty good friends with the guys that run it. I dont think it would be a problem. I may have to wait until after we file the K1 I dont know. I jumped the gun on it a little haha.. I have to do some more research. I also have a bit of a soft spot for them, as they've bent over backwards for me throughout the years. But all things must pass and I think they are slowly but surely getting out of the cam business... They only have a few models left in their studio I think and I really dont make them that much money, so first I'll figure out if it'll negatively impact my K1 case and get back to you.
Not a problem. We also buy studios, which is one of the few cases we can directly transfer a profile without any restarts.
KatyBoleyn
12-29-2017, 11:08 AM
A few small announcements for those that come here to check on things:
- All Streamate bonus money is currently credited and will go out today. You will notice a 10% bonus from us on top of the 30% Streamate bonus for last week. Some people were already paid a large "prepayment" for that a few days ago and will receive the difference now.
- 1099's will be processed very soon. You are now able to update your physical address in our system easily. We are sending 1099's electronically, but still need the physical address.
- There will be no payments on Monday, January 1st. Its is a bank holiday. The last payment for the year will be Sunday morning for Paxum/FirstChoice people. The last payment for direct deposit is in a few hours. Your YTD total should be accurate and you can estimate your income and taxes.
- Prize packages will be mailed 2nd of January for those that won.
Happy New Year!
sweetandnaughty
12-29-2017, 02:05 PM
A few small announcements for those that come here to check on things:
- All Streamate bonus money is currently credited and will go out today. You will notice a 10% bonus from us on top of the 30% Streamate bonus for last week. Some people were already paid a large "prepayment" for that a few days ago and will receive the difference now.
- 1099's will be processed very soon. You are now able to update your physical address in our system easily. We are sending 1099's electronically, but still need the physical address.
- There will be no payments on Monday, January 1st. Its is a bank holiday. The last payment for the year will be Sunday morning for Paxum/FirstChoice people. The last payment for direct deposit is in a few hours. Your YTD total should be accurate and you can estimate your income and taxes.
- Prize packages will be mailed 2nd of January for those that won.
Happy New Year!
I just updated my new address and info and did the w9 info. It was easy and quick to do. Been wanting that feature for a longtime. Very nice!!
queenelayliah
01-02-2018, 10:12 AM
Hi Kathy,
I have a quick question so I tried to log into my account and it wont allow me i tried the forgot password feature and it stated there is no account associated with this email. I havent logged in since maybe September or october 2017. Do I have to reply with you guys?
*Edit please ignore after trying 3 times it finally worked. ** sorry.
KatyBoleyn
01-03-2018, 08:53 AM
We were supposed to turn on the W-9 and 2257 requirements a month ago but for some reason that was missed in the holiday crazy.
You can fill out your address in the regular profile -or- the 1st time you fill out the W-9.
If it asks you for a W-9, the system thinks you are American. If you are American, fill it out. If you are not, please change your country to the proper one in your profile.
2257 is just your standard ID uploads.
DancesWithSloths
01-03-2018, 10:09 AM
A Niteflirt question, please: if I decided to top up my bidding cushion with my credit card, would it create accounting confusion on your end?
KatyBoleyn
01-03-2018, 10:31 AM
A Niteflirt question, please: if I decided to top up my bidding cushion with my credit card, would it create accounting confusion on your end?
So long as you also set you bidding reserve at the same time. Any funds in excess of your reserve at the time we make payments are going to get paid back out to you.
seashell
01-03-2018, 01:03 PM
Anyone else having trouble logging into the BM site/payment gateway?