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tempest666
03-11-2014, 12:44 PM
Funny I've never really had issues with the upgrades....kinda hard to suck on nipples when you're struggling to breathe. ::)

banished avatar
03-11-2014, 03:44 PM
LOL, this is funny stuff ba. Dancers aren't trying to get a cheap thrill when they tease you or even let you grope them. They are simply trying to keep the money flowing...

Yep. Y'all made that clear and maybe I'm not making myself clear. There's a difference btwn what should happen and what does. Telling us guys on a forum how things should be isn't nearly as productive as finding out and preventing things that do happen. My suggestion remains the same, figure out what type of custie you're dealing with and act accordingly. If he's a groper don't be surprised if he becomes a sucker(literal). And don't take this as me saying she brought it on herself, but for her to be on the lookout for the potential dangers.

slowpoke
03-11-2014, 04:17 PM
http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/4/0/1/7/thread-crap-wont_die.jpg

Radius
03-11-2014, 04:33 PM
It's good to be an ass man, and not even be tempted :)

MarvelGirl
03-11-2014, 04:39 PM
The reason this thread won't die is because it exposes a terrifying attitude in our society. "Rape culture" has become a popular phrase lately and I'll admit I've even dismissed the idea that some men don't know what rape is but this thread makes it painfully obvious that some of them really don't and that is terrifying to me as a woman.

There are men on this thread who have the attitude, "I'll do whatever the hell I want to whatever woman I want whether she likes it or not and if she didn't like it, it was her own fault anyways."

It's frightening to know that this sort of rapist logic is so common and that the rapists who think this can't even be reasoned with. Over and over again people have said, "Look, just ask before you do it, please." and nope, they keep insisting they will not. That's very frightening to me as a woman.

yoda57us
03-11-2014, 04:57 PM
Yep. Y'all made that clear and maybe I'm not making myself clear. There's a difference btwn what should happen and what does. Telling us guys on a forum how things should be isn't nearly as productive as finding out and preventing things that do happen. My suggestion remains the same, figure out what type of custie you're dealing with and act accordingly. If he's a groper don't be surprised if he becomes a sucker(literal). And don't take this as me saying she brought it on herself, but for her to be on the lookout for the potential dangers.


Some good points but none of this is news to the ladies here. The dancer's posts here don't express shock or surprise but rather anger and disgust at what goes on. These women aren't stupid. The job they do requires that they convince a guy to spend money on something that is totally a luxury purchase. That's not as easy as some seem to think it is and, quite often, a dancer has to risk a bad outcome with a questionable guy in order to make money on a slow night. Clearly when you make your living teasing and titillating strangers there are risks involved. Still, I've spent half of my life in strip clubs on a fairly regular basis and managed to never get a girl pissed at me for any other reason than refusing a dance. It's just not that hard. It involves acting like a gentlemen. That's an expectation that the ladies have every right to.

yoda57us
03-11-2014, 04:58 PM
It's good to be an ass man, and not even be tempted :)

Oh, I am an ass man...and I'm tempted all the time...

monroe2go
03-11-2014, 07:47 PM
I will slap you if you touch my nipples, I don't care who you are. I mean, my boo can do it, but he's gotta do it right or I will slap him, too. Most guys don't know wtf they're doing with tits anyway. Drives me nuts.

moosehead
03-17-2014, 04:53 PM
I let the question stay up because of the way you phrased it.


You asked and the ladies answered. You didn't ask if it happens or even how often it happens. You asked them what they thought about it.

Actually, that was by design. You see, I'm an English major. With the knowledge that if I were to ask the posters on this site whether or not it happens, most of the responses would predictably be a loud "NO". Instead, I asked the question with the assumption that it ALREADY happens, so there would be no denials. Through careful wording and proper use of rhetoric, I was able to get the desired responses.

yoda57us
03-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Actually, that was by design. You see, I'm an English major. With the knowledge that if I were to ask the posters on this site whether or not it happens, most of the responses would predictably be a loud "NO". Instead, I asked the question with the assumption that it ALREADY happens, so there would be no denials. Through careful wording and proper use of rhetoric, I was able to get the desired responses.

LOL, By design or not it stayed up because it was a legitimate question asked politely. No dancer who has ever worked in a contact club would deny that it happens.

Doc Holliday
03-17-2014, 06:31 PM
Maybe they should serve milk at the bar?

yoda57us
03-17-2014, 06:35 PM
Maybe they should serve milk at the bar?

They do Doc. You've never heard of a White Russian?

Doc Holliday
03-17-2014, 06:36 PM
Yeah, but when I ask for that they just send me the new girl.

lynn2009
03-17-2014, 07:45 PM
Actually, that was by design. You see, I'm an English major.

I really hate statements like this. To me it's like saying only a medical doctor knows how to cure a headache.

knightwish
03-18-2014, 03:41 AM
So I was in a high milage club today and I decided to carefully watch the club's prudish dancer carefully to see how she avoid mouth to breast in a club where it was normative. Of course this is anecdotal but at least a useful example.

1) She sold far fewer dances than the other dancers. Average dancer was doing 1+ VIP ($125/15 min) and 2+ LDs ($20/4 min) between each set, about an hr apart. She averaged about 1 LD and mostly played on her phone when not dancing. She decidedly didn't approach customers from the floor, only from stage. So the first thing seemed to be reducing the opportunity for it. Other times I’ve seen her she is in the same area a lot but I wasn’t keeping count.

2) She did however focus her attention heavily on men who like to stage tip. I'd say she averaged about 1.5x ($20 vs. $12) what the dancers who were focused on selling on LDs were making from stage. Which was interesting because she didn’t do crotch in face. Her dancing was rhythmic and sort of erotic rather than sexual. I’ve always myself been a fan of her pole work whenever I’d seen her.

3) The demeanor was friendly and helpful very girl next door. When she chatted customers up both from the back LD area (where her phone was) or from stage she came off like a cocktail waitress or hostess not a stripper.

I decided to buy a dance with her and I got to see her with one other customer.

4) Verbally she said “you can’t touch here” when the dance started. I did 90’s style hands under my butt other customer I saw had hands on side of this legs. So even though they (me) knew that it was total BS that the club didn’t permit touching the guys understood that she didn’t permit touching and were OK with that.

5) When other women were in the LD room providing something outside the norm (in this case getting spanked) she made a sour disapproving face that the customer could see.

6) She never did any crotch friction. She was rubbing her pelvis against the guy’s legs not his penis.

7) She always leaned away so her chest rarely was within mouth range when she fondled or drew attention to her breasts.

This is obviously extreme. But I think it is a good example of how she went out of her way to show in lots of different ways an expectation of low milage. Any guy is going to understand he can’t breast suck with her even if he can normally do a hell of a lot more. It isn’t ambiguous to the customer.

As an aside regarding my previous comments about dancer milage having to be no more than one step removed. I think she shows the pressure of being two steps removed from the club norm. She’s clearly had it with the club’s customer base and is frustrated. She’s not approaching because she would rather avoid being in the LD / VIP room but that’s where the money is in this club. Given that even in that stressed state she still comes off as a bubbly personality dancer she would obviously be a lot happier at one of the lower milage joints where she could focus on drinking and flirting with customers and then selling a few dances. I don’t do weekend nights. She’s really cute, but the club generally demands for the lower milage weekend night shifts so I’m not even sure if she’s working weekday to get those shifts. But maybe. Dancer keeps $15 per LD, and I’m sure there is a tip that if you prorate evenly over the shift she was likely making $20 / hr or worse take home. I’m going to assume she has regulars so that isn’t her actual average but still hr after hr after hr of earning that low has gotta suck. The whole system of being a low milage dancer in a high milage club isn’t working well for her.

Doc Holliday
03-18-2014, 06:35 AM
So are you writing a paper for your women studies group, or just creeping?

knightwish
03-18-2014, 07:09 AM
So are you writing a paper for your women studies group, or just creeping?

Collecting experimental evidence of a hypothesis. The way I try and confirm all my opinions.

Vyanka
03-18-2014, 10:46 AM
The whole system of being a low milage dancer in a high milage club isn’t working well for her.

How the hell would you know this? If it didn't, she probably wouldn't be working there still. Let me guess, you gave her advice on how to make money too...right? You need to stop making assumptions and analyzing girls(we notice that and it's fkn annoying). If you're gonna be at a SC, frikkin relax and cut the bullshit.

Vyanka
03-18-2014, 10:48 AM
This stupid thread needs to die. It's all assholes in here. There is plenty of that at our jobs. -_-

Selina M
03-18-2014, 12:33 PM
Uhhh yeah, her not selling as much as the other dancers is probably purely due to her sitting on her phone most of the time... Nothing to do with mileage. If other customers see her making sour faces, that's probably contributing as well. Sounds like she has a poor attitude in general but her sales are not a reflection of her contact, IMHO.

I give pretty low mileage dances compared to most others at my club, and I have no problem averaging 6+ dances an hour during the day with something like a 3:1 dancer:customer ratio. It's sales and attitude and approaching a lot of customers and NOT sitting on my phone.

rickdugan
03-18-2014, 02:03 PM
Idk KW, but it seems to me like you're taking one isolated experience, mixing in a lot of assumptions, and then using it to support your definitive conclusion. How do you know what is 'working well for her" over the course of the work week, or who pays her for what? Also, even if she is doing poorly, is it really because she is a "low mileage dancer" or because of other issues, such as her propensity not to approach customers? Did you actually talk to her about any of this, or did you base all of this solely upon one club visit?

And even if everything you said was true, what does this have to do with breast sucking in particular? Are you trying to make the case that allowing it can make an income difference? If so, IMHO that case certainly wasn't made with this offpoint story. Or was your purpose really try to impart some broader (and perhaps misguided) lesson about the benefits of giving contact? Honestly, I'm not reallly sure of the additive value of that post to the discussion. High contact and breast sucking are not necessarily the same thing and plenty of girls can give high contact LDs while not allowing guys to suckle on their nipples. But please feel free to elaborate if there is a subtle point here that I am missing.

Anyway, just my :twocents:

yoda57us
03-18-2014, 04:20 PM
So I was in a high milage club today and I decided to carefully watch the club's prudish dancer carefully to see how she avoid mouth to breast in a club where it was normative. Of course this is anecdotal but at least a useful example.


Example of what? Useful how? Customers buy dances from who they want and dancers dance the way that they want KW. The only reason I didn't delete your entire post as being irrelevant to this thread was because several people took the time and trouble to respond to it before I saw it.

I'm not letting you turn this thread into another of your presumptive off topic rants about strippers and strip clubs. Go start a blog somewhere if you want. Don't do it here.

Trixia
03-18-2014, 05:31 PM
I just remove the body part from the menu.

Had a guy inhale my right tit once from behind my bra. Which resulted in no more tits in the face and a shitty mostly air dance for the remainder of the song and me walking out after not even trying to sell another dance.

I'm not excusing it but it happens and it's not going to stop. My club is clean low mileage and guys still pull that on occasion. They want to kiss or grab or touch where they are not supposed too. And they get shitty dances once they start that.

While the guys who allow me to do my job get as much mileage as my club allows and a way better dance while we play hide and seek from the dance monitor with letting them hold my hips or my stomach etc.

Guys who take without asking really ruin their dances. Trying to eat my boob just means I'm putting the brakes on the friction elsewhere.

simone87
03-18-2014, 05:44 PM
so KW what i pretty much got from your little experiment is that you came to the conclusion that girls who don't let customers lick their nipples are rude, they don't put effort into their job, and they don't earn any money? was that pretty much the premise?

knightwish
03-18-2014, 10:53 PM
How the hell would you know this? If it didn't, she probably wouldn't be working there still. Let me guess, you gave her advice on how to make money too...right? You need to stop making assumptions and analyzing girls(we notice that and it's fkn annoying). If you're gonna be at a SC, frikkin relax and cut the bullshit.

I didn't give her advice. I didn't tell her anything. I just had a great time with another dancer and noticed the obvious about what she was doing when I was there. Maybe you should stop making assumptions!

knightwish
03-18-2014, 10:57 PM
so KW what i pretty much got from your little experiment is that you came to the conclusion that girls who don't let customers lick their nipples are rude, they don't put effort into their job, and they don't earn any money? was that pretty much the premise?

No actually I said the opposite of that, "The demeanor was friendly and helpful very girl next door. " Also the experiment wasn't about girls who don't let customers lick their nipples, that was never the point. The experiment was about being 2 steps removed from the club (i.e. low milage in a high milage club or high milage girl in a low milage club or medium / ultra-high either combination) which had come up in the thread earlier. In particular I had asserted that it would be obvious in a high milage club if you were dealing with a dancer that didn't allow nipple sucking and others had disagreed. So this was convenient, I was in a high milage club and there was a low milage dancer whom I thought probably didn't (I was right) so I kept my eye on how she made it obvious.

My only comment about dancers who are freaked by nipple licking is that they are mainly low milage dancers because that's a fairly standard mid level milage activity.

knightwish
03-18-2014, 11:03 PM
Uhhh yeah, her not selling as much as the other dancers is probably purely due to her sitting on her phone most of the time... Nothing to do with mileage. If other customers see her making sour faces, that's probably contributing as well. Sounds like she has a poor attitude in general but her sales are not a reflection of her contact, IMHO.

I give pretty low mileage dances compared to most others at my club, and I have no problem averaging 6+ dances an hour during the day with something like a 3:1 dancer:customer ratio. It's sales and attitude and approaching a lot of customers and NOT sitting on my phone.

I think the phone was a symptom of her frustration with the customer base, burn out. I agree she's got a bad attitude about work. That is unless she was a just looking for a job that lets her spend most of the time playing on phone while still earning a bit under $20/hr -- low stress Otherwise I'd have to guess the bad attitude came from the mismatch being a low milage dancer in a high milage club. That club has a good customer base for the club: decent guys, all clean / no smell, no time wasters... but all but one or two there for heavy contact. I can't read her mind but I can see her frustration.

When I got my dance from her I made it easy since I wasn't looking for contact from her and yet she didn't even bother to try and sell a 2nd dance beyond just asking at the end. So I'm thinking burnout.

FasaCorp
03-18-2014, 11:16 PM
So I was in a high milage club today and I decided to carefully watch the club's prudish dancer carefully to see how she avoid mouth to breast in a club where it was normative. Of course this is anecdotal but at least a useful example.

Just when I thought this thread had run its course...
Just because she refuses to let customers do something that is not in her job description does not make her a "prude". I stopped reading the rest of the post after this sentence.

RosesForMyLove
03-19-2014, 05:38 AM
Just ewww. That is reserved men in my personal life only not nasty SC customers.

Omegaphallic
03-19-2014, 09:31 AM
I'll ask first, if she says no to tit sucking then its no, if she says I can kiss them then I kiss,and if she says I can suck them I will. And no means no, I don't get pushy or mad or mean or nasty.

yoda57us
03-19-2014, 11:50 AM
I didn't give her advice. I didn't tell her anything. I just had a great time with another dancer and noticed the obvious about what she was doing when I was there. Maybe you should stop making assumptions!

Oh PLEASE KW! Most of what you post here is assumption-based stripper/strip club phantom analytics with little or no factual data to back it up. You run-off paragraph after paragraph of presumptive wishful thinking based trivia to try and support your vision of how clubs should be and how dancers should act. What Vyanka posted has been said to you dozens of times by now in several threads by several different dancers. You of all people telling others that they shouldn't make assumptions is laughable at this point to say the absolute least!

Doc Holliday
03-20-2014, 03:40 AM
This thread reminds me of that part of Halloween where Michael won't die.

knightwish
03-20-2014, 03:50 AM
Oh PLEASE KW! Most of what you post here is assumption-based stripper/strip club phantom analytics with little or no factual data to back it up. You run-off paragraph after paragraph of presumptive wishful thinking based trivia to try and support your vision of how clubs should be and how dancers should act. What Vyanka posted has been said to you dozens of times by now in several threads by several different dancers. You of all people telling others that they shouldn't make assumptions is laughable at this point to say the absolute least!

If the dancers were right then given a randomly selected dancer there would be no way to tell if she did or didn't permit breast contact. It would be a coin flip where prior to asking I'd have no idea. Like say if I were trying to guess her birthday. If on the other hand I was right then the club would be a determining factor. Any club for which it wouldn't be ambiguous a dancer deviating from club norms would have to make it obvious. So what happens to the very next dancer I run into who is deviating from club norms?

As for my little or no data. The last time we had these conversations you presented 0 data. I presented counter example after counter example after counter example of your theories. And not even vague or subtle counter examples but counter examples like the most financially successful club in the country and major chains. And moreover when asked for clarifying details I was able to provide them. It turned out that my opinion was backed by 8 of the top analysts and experts in the strip club world, not in some vague opinion sense in a magazine article but in the they were betting their fortune on it sense. Then finally when asked for evidence of your position you couldn't provide any except for assertions about customer behavior that were obviously clearly demonstratively contradicted by immediately observable fact. So let's not rewrite history.

Vyanka wasn't doing something like that at all. Rather she posted a bunch of nonsense about me being an obnoxious customer based on nothing. We don't know each other. Not only that in other posts I've given pretty strong indications of how I do club, and what I'm looking to get. It was a cheap insult badly executed nothing more. The context in which I responded originally to her made that clear, but you decided to delete that and then respond to the rest.

Anyway I'm done with this stupid thread. And I think for a while at least this board.

amberlly
03-20-2014, 04:46 AM
I appreciate the idea that dancers body language, club settings etc would make it seem like the answer is obvious.

BUT each person has 100% rights to their body, its their choice to say, yes, no - maybe.

Even if they dance around naked, talking like dirty and flirting with you. Ask for your cash or sit on your lap.


Just ask first. Don't assume. Human beings are random, illogical creatures - just ask.

Yes - double speak, sales stuff etc comes into it. If your not clear on the answer - ask like an aspergers person "So spell it out, can I do X or not''.

My bestfriend is an aspie - she does this all the time. It works wonders.

amberlly
03-20-2014, 05:04 AM
Lol ok example two..

Amongst other things I work in a body rub parlour - oil massage and HJ.

The whole place is designed to sell that specifically, you pay and off we go.

95% of the guys that come in want their HJ at the end. BUT some don't.

How do I know? I ask in a saucy voice - ready for your happy ending?

If they say no, I don't scream "Bitch please - this what we do here. Everyone does. NOW ENJOY IT" and start forcibly massaging them..

yoda57us
03-20-2014, 09:10 PM
If the dancers were right then given a randomly selected dancer there would be no way to tell if she did or didn't permit breast contact. It would be a coin flip where prior to asking I'd have no idea. Like say if I were trying to guess her birthday.

Exactly! Now you're getting it! If you want to know you have to ask!



If on the other hand I was right then the club would be a determining factor. Any club for which it wouldn't be ambiguous a dancer deviating from club norms would have to make it obvious. So what happens to the very next dancer I run into who is deviating from club norms?
But you're not right and the club is not and will never be the determining factor. It will always be up to the dancer and, quite frankly, all customers will not always get the same treatment.

The reason I leave this thread open is because day after day, guys like you keep trying to present an argument for being able to tell without asking if it's OK to lick a dancer's breasts and I think it's very entertaining to watch you all get your butts kicked! I think it's hysterical that none of you seem to have the balls to ask a simple question.



As for my little or no data. The last time we had these conversations you presented 0 data. I presented counter example after counter example after counter example of your theories. And not even vague or subtle counter examples but counter examples like the most financially successful club in the country and major chains. And moreover when asked for clarifying details I was able to provide them. It turned out that my opinion was backed by 8 of the top analysts and experts in the strip club world, not in some vague opinion sense in a magazine article but in the they were betting their fortune on it sense. Then finally when asked for evidence of your position you couldn't provide any except for assertions about customer behavior that were obviously clearly demonstratively contradicted by immediately observable fact. So let's not rewrite history.

I don't have to present any "data" to not agree with you KW. That's your gig, not mine. I'm old enough and have been around clubs, dancers, club owners and the entertainment business long enough to know how things work and who makes the money. I simply have an opinion and it doesn't line up with yours. That's all. I've never claimed to have "proof. It just pisses you off that no one agrees with you.


Vyanka wasn't doing something like that at all. Rather she posted a bunch of nonsense about me being an obnoxious customer based on nothing. We don't know each other. Not only that in other posts I've given pretty strong indications of how I do club, and what I'm looking to get. It was a cheap insult badly executed nothing more. The context in which I responded originally to her made that clear, but you decided to delete that and then respond to the rest.

Whatever Anyone posts here is based on what they read here. V's opinion of you isn't based on nothing, it's based on what you post here. Comprende??


Anyway I'm done with this stupid thread. And I think for a while at least this board.

Whatever dude. We survived before you got here. Come on back anytime you like....

MarvelGirl
03-21-2014, 05:16 AM
Rapist logic, pure and simple. She wanted it based on the clothes she was wearing. She wanted it based on the club she was working at. I didn't have to ask, I just knew she wanted it.

Rapist logic. The end.

SweetJulia
03-21-2014, 10:16 AM
How did it make me feel then? In a word, nauseous. I hated that when I was dancing and am so grateful it's impossible to do camming. It felt like such a violation and I'm so glad I no longer have to deal with people asking and trying. I played it off back then to avoid dealing with guys trying that and worse, but now, I'd call it what it is: assault. That's what touching, sucking, slobbering on someone without permission is. That's sort of why I stick to camming now, there ARE some nice customers, funny ones, even the occasional hot one, but guys who push boundaries and violate the personal space of a dancer really piss me off. If I was still dancing and someone tried it, I'd get really angry and knock the guys teeth out.

Vyanka
03-21-2014, 12:54 PM
Anyway I'm done with this stupid thread. And I think for a while at least this board.

Do us the favor, permanently. Ciao ;D

Almost Jaded
03-25-2014, 02:33 PM
Head shots! Shooting this thread in the body has no effect!

yoda57us
03-25-2014, 02:54 PM
After almost 30 days there are still dancers responding with legitimacy to the original question. I've spent a lot of time keeping this on track as I view this thread as an an opportunity for the ladies speak their mind on a topic that is clearly a sore subject to many of them. The last time I checked that's what we were here for.

If you don't like the thread you are (ALL) free to stop reading it. I'm frankly getting a little tired of the folks who keep poking at it and wondering why it's still open. Read and contribute or just go away...Simple.

To be clear, the mods decide when it's time to close a thread. If you feel there is a legitimate reason to close a thread that's a moderation issue and ALL moderation issues are handled via PM, not on the open board. If anyone wants to talk about it my inbox is available. Otherwise I expect the drive-by remarks to stop.

moosehead
03-26-2014, 07:15 PM
I've spent a lot of time keeping this on track as I view this thread as an an opportunity for the ladies speak their mind on a topic that is clearly a sore subject to many of them.

What about those who like it?

yoda57us
03-26-2014, 08:25 PM
What about those who like it?

What about them? They don't seem to be speaking up here moosehead. Maybe you could go back to your favorite clubs, find some dancers who enjoy having their breasts licked and convince them to join Stripper web and post about it.

We'll wait here...

moosehead
03-26-2014, 08:33 PM
What about them? They don't seem to be speaking up here moosehead. Maybe you could go back to your favorite clubs, find some dancers who enjoy having their breasts licked and convince them to join Stripper web and post about it.

We'll wait here...

Their silence most likely has to do with the fear of being bullied and ostracized by the regulars on this board.

yoda57us
03-26-2014, 08:39 PM
Their silence most likely has to do with the fear of being bullied and ostracized by the regulars on this board.

That's an easy come back moosehead since there is really no way to know. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I think it's more likely that even the girls that do allow it only do it for the money, don't actually "like" it and aren't interested in posting about it to encourage the activity.

sierra.
03-26-2014, 09:30 PM
What about those who like it?

And? What about them? I'm sure they are out there, I mean there are all kinds of people in the world. I don't think anyone would really deny this. But it seems the vast majority don't like it, even though some may tolerate it. I think the main point customers should take away from this thread is that they should ask first. I don't see how your comment is relevant at all.

audrey_k
03-26-2014, 10:20 PM
^Even if you don't want to face this delusion that you have that the women who are letting you suck their breasts actually like it (I can guarantee you 99% of the girls are simply tolerating it for money) I hope that you do take from this thread that you should ASK before sticking your lips on a tit.

lol1337a
03-27-2014, 02:27 AM
Just the TITLE of this thread makes my skin crawl.

I feel violated even reading it. Sadly, it's happened for real before. Probably will again, too.

*Shudders*

moosehead
03-28-2014, 05:47 PM
^Even if you don't want to face this delusion that you have that the women who are letting you suck their breasts actually like it (I can guarantee you 99% of the girls are simply tolerating it for money) I hope that you do take from this thread that you should ASK before sticking your lips on a tit.

That's funny, I don't remember any of those strippers asking my permission before they grabbed my penis. Rape culture, rape culture I say!

yoda57us
03-28-2014, 05:57 PM
That's funny, I don't remember any of those strippers asking my permission before they grabbed my penis. Rape culture, rape culture I say!

"Those strippers"? lol, I think we all know that there are dirty dancers out there moosehead. So what? You asked a bout a certain type of customer behavior and that's what we are discussing in this thread.