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audrey_k
03-28-2014, 06:03 PM
That's funny, I don't remember any of those strippers asking my permission before they grabbed my penis. Rape culture, rape culture I say!
Just because some dirty extras girl decided to grab your penis doesn't mean you can translate that behavior to EVERY stripper in the entire industry. You have probably 50 responses in this thread from girls saying DO NOT SUCK MY FUCKING NIPPLES, so if you really think it's OK to just stick your lips on a tit after reading this thread you either have an IQ bordering around 70 (mentally retarded) or you are just totally in denial and think you're hot shit and the girls you are dancing with really like you. Neither one would surprise me from your posts, in fact it's extremely likely you have an IQ of 70 and are also a delusional narcissist.
I have been dancing for 5 years and I have NEVER grabbed a customer's penis and the only girls I know who have done that are extras girls. I'm sure those types of girls would be totally happy to have you suck their nipples for a certain price, but again even with an extras girl I would ask because she may not like it either! I mean, even if you were to see a prostitute I'm assuming you would have to have some agreement about what services she offers!
And to be honest, I don't know why you even bother continuing to post in this forum. Everytime you make a thread it's like you already have your mind made up about the answer, you're not interested in any responses from us dancers.
MarvelGirl
03-28-2014, 06:17 PM
Being the victim of a sexual assault does not give you the right to assault others. More rapist logic... It'd be funny if it wasn't so fucking disgusting and horrifying.
sierra.
03-29-2014, 04:27 PM
That's funny, I don't remember any of those strippers asking my permission before they grabbed my penis. Rape culture, rape culture I say!
God, it's like each of your posts is more disgusting than the last. You are trying to make a joke out of the experiences of the ladies on this board in some sad attempt to prove a point, which you are failing miserably at anyway. Truly fucking vile.
Omegaphallic
03-30-2014, 09:00 AM
I think the relevant points in this thread can be summed up succintly:
1. Consent is key. Unless your dancer takes your hands and puts them somewhere, ask if it's ok first!
2. Moosehead seems to seek out the skankiest clubs, and is unaware that those behaviors aren't the standard everywhere.
3. Dancers being intentionally vague while trying to make a sale is common. (I'm guilty of this too, IMO it kills the mood to give a play by play of what I will do in the LD/VIP room. I'd rather just show you.) But, once you're back there, rule #1 still applies
I really wish this country had more progressive attitudes about sex education, it would help so much if young teenagers were educated about consent.
What country are you living in?
When I went to high school consent was apart of the sex education classes. We watched videos that taught no means no.
Then again I'm Canadian, I don't know what its like in America.
I will say that men aren't stupid, we know raping someone is wrong.
MarvelGirl
03-30-2014, 10:32 AM
^^^
Well, I grew up in America and went to public school we were taught not to dress whores unless we wanted to be treated like whores. I remember very clearly a presentation we were shown where a boy was holding a girl down where she screamed and cried and tried to get away from him. She screamed "NO!" then she screamed "DON'T!" then she screamed "STOP!" All the while she was crying and struggling and snot was running out of her nose and she was randomly gasping for air and screaming between those words then the "instructor" stopped the presentation and informed us that this was not a rape and it was her fault because she had said, "No, don't stop."
An underage girl was raped in my high school by of age seniors and the general consensus among most students AND teachers is that she was asking for it. A teacher screwed a student in his classroom and she was known as a dirty whore for years afterwards. She was talked about even after she graduated.
So, yeah, there's an issue.
yoda57us
03-30-2014, 10:33 AM
What country are you living in? I'm guessing the US since she refers to "this country" in her post
When I went to high school consent was apart of the sex education classes. We watched videos that taught no means no. That's all well and good but not everyone has had that sort of education. I'm in my 50's and the word "consent" didn't exist anywhere in sex ed class when I was in school. Not only that sex ed itself did not and still does not exist in many public school systems in the US. Just as with strip clubs, all of our experiences differ depending on the circumstances of location etc.
Then again I'm Canadian, I don't know what its like in America. Which is why I take issue with the first sentence in your post.
I will say that men aren't stupid, we know raping someone is wrong. Killing and stealing are wrong as well but the prisons are full of people who do both.
Sorry but some men are stupid...and some are just a-holes. Obviously I've read this thread pretty closely. Non of the responses here have gone so far as to declare the entire male population as stupid. You don't have to defend us.
FasaCorp
03-30-2014, 11:21 AM
I will say that men aren't stupid, we know raping someone is wrong.
Intelligence, for the most part, has nothing to do with whether or not "right" or "wrong" is known. There are plenty of men out there who know full well what they are doing is wrong, but do it anyway because it's a thrill/they feel entitled/etc. Humanity is chock full of people who do the opposite of what they know is right.
moosehead
04-01-2014, 04:08 PM
Just because some dirty extras girl decided to grab your penis doesn't mean you can translate that behavior to EVERY stripper in the entire industry. You have probably 50 responses in this thread from girls saying DO NOT SUCK MY FUCKING NIPPLES, so if you really think it's OK to just stick your lips on a tit after reading this thread you either have an IQ bordering around 70 (mentally retarded) or you are just totally in denial and think you're hot shit and the girls you are dancing with really like you. Neither one would surprise me from your posts, in fact it's extremely likely you have an IQ of 70 and are also a delusional narcissist.
I have been dancing for 5 years and I have NEVER grabbed a customer's penis and the only girls I know who have done that are extras girls. I'm sure those types of girls would be totally happy to have you suck their nipples for a certain price, but again even with an extras girl I would ask because she may not like it either! I mean, even if you were to see a prostitute I'm assuming you would have to have some agreement about what services she offers!
And to be honest, I don't know why you even bother continuing to post in this forum. Everytime you make a thread it's like you already have your mind made up about the answer, you're not interested in any responses from us dancers.
You're telling me about all these responses in this thread but what about the responses from customers that referred to the times were encouraged by a stripper to suck on her boobs? You're being too selective about the perspectives presented in this thread.
audrey_k
04-01-2014, 04:45 PM
I'm being too selective with the responses in this thread?
First of all, I cannot speak for dancers who customers on this thread have danced with. Neither can you, and neither can the customers on this thread. Just because some customer thinks that a dancer wants him to do something does not make it so. I know you think you're hot shit and the dancers at clubs are just dripping wet and can barely keep their hands away from their panties, but it's not so, trust me, cause you are a complete asshole. It's an act to take your money. Just because a dancer shoves her tit in your face does not mean that she wants you to stick your lips on it. Dancers are supposed to be in control of the dance, not the customer. A lap dance is supposed to be a tease. So I have no idea if these dancers that customers are speaking of were OK with the breast sucking and neither do you. You have no proof and neither do I so they are irrelevant.
Of all the dancers who have responded, one girl has said she lets customers suck her breasts (and that's totally her prerogative). The entire first page is full of responses from girls explaining what they do to punish customers sucking their breasts, one girl gets her hubby off so that customers will lick his dry semen. Does that sound like someone who is OK with breast sucking? If we are going to go by actual data, not just some customer's fantasy, then the conclusion is that dancers are not OK with it. I am not being selective with the posts from this thread, you are living in your little fantasy world.
And I'm not even going to answer your second question because it's incredibly insulting.
yoda57us
04-01-2014, 04:58 PM
You're telling me about all these responses in this thread but what about the responses from customers that referred to the times were encouraged by a stripper to suck on her boobs? You're being too selective about the perspectives presented in this thread.
Say what? No one here is responsible for pleading your case other than you moosehead. If you can't drum-up any more support for your argument that's not our problem.
yoda57us
04-01-2014, 06:00 PM
The topic of this thread is breast sucking in the clubs.
Moderation issues are to be addressed only via PM.
No personal attacks from customers or dancers will be tolerated in this or any other thread.
Stay on topic and stay civil or stay away.
The next post I have to edit or delete will carry with it moderation points.
MarvelGirl
04-01-2014, 06:29 PM
I think the point some people are missing is that dancers are human beings. We do not have a hive mind. We're actual people.
I don't give a flying fuck what another dancer let you do to her. I am not her. She doesn't own my body and she does not get to decide what I do sexually with anyone. If you lick me, you just assaulted me. Telling me that Tiffany at some other club let you do it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with me. You still assaulted me. I own my body. I get to decide who gets to touch it and who doesn't. Not you and not some random fucking stripper I've never even met.
Anyone who can't understand that needs to be locked up because they're a threat to the public.
amberlly
04-03-2014, 04:49 PM
There are so many clubs and dancers. If you want to suck breasts then ask first! If no, next dancer. Seriously it's that easy. Everyones different so find the dancers offering what you want to buy.
BuffyFlame
04-03-2014, 11:02 PM
For ladies who do allow nipple sucking, A thick layer of CLEAR puff pain over the nipple will cut down risk of infection.
They will be able to feel it, not see it. Sour sprays and... Semen... are great and all lol, But really dont help protect against infection.
audrey_k
04-03-2014, 11:45 PM
I don't think the semen is to protect against infection... I think it's a way to get back at the customer!
simone87
04-04-2014, 01:14 PM
^ being assaulted should not be considered the norm. nobody deserves to be assaulted. if she doesn't mind having her nipples sucked, that's fine. she's not being assaulted. but if she doesn't want that, then she IS being assaulted. any kind of sexual act that is nonconsensual is assault. idc who you are or what kind of job you have. and in a lot of clubs, nipple sucking isn't even legal, and isn't part of our job description even if we didn't mind it
Selina M
04-04-2014, 03:02 PM
And nowhere in my job description as a stripper does it say I must allow customers to suck my nipples. As a matter of fact, I do not HAVE a job description, as I am an independent contractor and can do whatever I want... so I can damn well tell customers they cannot lick/kiss/suck on my body parts.
It does not affect my money one bit either. I have found that the guys who want to lick and grab areas they're not supposed to, are generally cheapskates good for 2 dances max. The quality customers that are respectful are the ones I can snag for 4-5 songs.
Naida
04-04-2014, 04:28 PM
It does not affect my money one bit either. I have found that the guys who want to lick and grab areas they're not supposed to, are generally cheapskates good for 2 dances max. The quality customers that are respectful are the ones I can snag for 4-5 songs.
This, absolutely! When I was still dancing, ~98% of the customers who tried to kiss/lick/suck/touch inappropriately were cheap bastards that I pretty much knew were only gonna buy 3 songs max. The remaining ~2% were guys that persistently wanted time with me (even after I made it clear that they were NOT going to get extras) so I figured, "fuck it. I might as well make money off this guy if he's going to keep taking up my time. I'll just let him believe what he wants without actually saying anything incriminating myself." Sell them VIP/CR and only have to do half the work because they leave as soon as they realize I was telling the truth about no extras.
Well paying customers are almost always respectful and would rather snuggle, nuzzle, touch me in ways that were appropriate, and/or stop doing anything I wasn't okay with the moment I told him it wasn't okay.
Because a lot of the guys who grab us don't know (they've usually been led to believe it's okay by misinformation or prior experience with an extras girl) that what they are doing is assault, I personally practiced the three strikes rule:
Strike One- Polite, playful excuse/reason why they shouldn't do it.
Strike Two- A firm, direct, "I need you to stop doing that if you want me to keep dancing."
Strike Three- I walk out and tell a bouncer. Depending on what the behavior was determines what I tell the bouncer. Guys who are persistently handsy but don't give me the creep factor would earn a "keep an eye on that guy if he buys anymore dances; he seems otherwise okay and might have learned his lesson since I left, but he is pretty grabby." Guys who creep me out or persistently do something that I find is over-the-line, I tell the bouncer "I think he needs to go."
Of course, how bouncers/staff/management chooses to actually handle the guy is entirely up to them. The point, at least a lot of the time for me, was not to get the guy kicked out. He might be an okay guy who will keep spending money and cease the behavior after a dancer put him in his place. But if he bothered ME enough to walk out (I have a strong back bone when it comes to dancing and used to tip bouncers to stay away from a lot of my dances, even though I was a clean/moderate mileage dancer, because I could handle myself without the male intimidation that can cause problems with some customers -- To Be Clear, this is NOT a practice I recommend anyone else follow! It can make you look dirty to staff and other dancers if they don't know you well, and can be outright dangerous!) then I definitely don't want him to be bothering other girls who might be shyer about speaking up. Just as much as I expected bouncers/staff/management to value my judgement, I respected their judgement about how to handle the situation.
My genitals void the Three Strikes rule because that crosses the line from "general sexual assault" into flat out rape. Depending on how aggressive the customer was about it, he got one or no warning before I walked out and/or yelled for a bouncer, demanding that the guy get the boot. In situations like that, thankfully, staff has NEVER questioned my judgement and have always tossed the dude. If you work in a club where they would allow the guy to stay after an incident like that, then I strongly suggest you find another club.
Back to what's a bit more relevant to the topic at hand, specifically sucking on tits- stay the fuck away from mine. Unless a person specifically has my permission, and I can't remember ever giving that permission to a customer nor will I ever give it when I return to work, they are not to touch my breasts. I would specifically spray on perfume before putting on my top as a (hopeful) deterrent and would laugh at guys who made a face after trying.
yoda57us
04-04-2014, 04:44 PM
Ladies, please take note...
When a post as offensive as the one that started today's little tirade of banning and deleted posts shows up please report it to the mods instead of engaging the troll. I banned him but I would have banned him a lot sooner had the post been reported since I get an email when that happens. I'm sorry that a whole bunch of posts had to be deleted but I can't eradicate the troll bs without also deleting any posts where said troll is quoted in.
carry on and have a pleasant weekend...:)
moosehead
04-04-2014, 08:42 PM
I'm being too selective with the responses in this thread?
First of all, I cannot speak for dancers who customers on this thread have danced with. Neither can you, and neither can the customers on this thread. Just because some customer thinks that a dancer wants him to do something does not make it so. I know you think you're hot shit and the dancers at clubs are just dripping wet and can barely keep their hands away from their panties, but it's not so, trust me, cause you are a complete asshole. It's an act to take your money. Just because a dancer shoves her tit in your face does not mean that she wants you to stick your lips on it. Dancers are supposed to be in control of the dance, not the customer. A lap dance is supposed to be a tease. So I have no idea if these dancers that customers are speaking of were OK with the breast sucking and neither do you. You have no proof and neither do I so they are irrelevant.
Of all the dancers who have responded, one girl has said she lets customers suck her breasts (and that's totally her prerogative). The entire first page is full of responses from girls explaining what they do to punish customers sucking their breasts, one girl gets her hubby off so that customers will lick his dry semen. Does that sound like someone who is OK with breast sucking? If we are going to go by actual data, not just some customer's fantasy, then the conclusion is that dancers are not OK with it. I am not being selective with the posts from this thread, you are living in your little fantasy world.
And I'm not even going to answer your second question because it's incredibly insulting.
Why are you so angry? I thought you said you liked giving high contact lap dances.
moosehead
04-04-2014, 08:51 PM
And nowhere in my job description as a stripper does it say I must allow customers to suck my nipples. As a matter of fact, I do not HAVE a job description, as I am an independent contractor and can do whatever I want... so I can damn well tell customers they cannot lick/kiss/suck on my body parts.
It does not affect my money one bit either. I have found that the guys who want to lick and grab areas they're not supposed to, are generally cheapskates good for 2 dances max. The quality customers that are respectful are the ones I can snag for 4-5 songs.
Not true in my experience. I have one friend who's a nice guy but it's funny because he would go with a stripper for a dance and come back down after one song and say how hot the girl was and how much he liked the experience. He liked her so much he bought one dance lol. I have another friend who's a total douchebag-goes to strip club and massage parlours without telling his girlfriend and is known to insult strippers to their face if he doesn't like the way they dance. But he also usually spends hours on end getting lap dances. It actually makes more sense for someone who likes to lick and grab to get more dances. I remember one time years ago when I saw a gorgeous stripper. I saw her talking to a guy and he got dances with her but he come back out after only 1 or 2 dances. I later saw the same guy talking to a much less attractive girl and he went to get lap dances and spent far more time getting dances with her. You can probably guess why.
Vyanka
04-04-2014, 09:28 PM
I remember one time years ago when I saw a gorgeous stripper. I saw her talking to a guy and he got dances with her but he come back out after only 1 or 2 dances.
So on to the next customer, who was probably decent financially and personally. Not every customer is the same either. Just bc a dancer isn't willing to do certain things, doesn't mean her money is hurting. Otherwise, she wouldn't be working there wasting her time.
As for your douchebag friend. I would def put his ass in his place. Believe that. What an asshole.
Chili Palmer
04-04-2014, 09:36 PM
Not true in my experience.
Welcome to the StripperWeb Paradox, where it is taken as matter of undeniable fact (on this website, if not in real life) that low mileage dances = lots of laps while high mileage dances = 1-2 laps. Just like guys who don't drink alcohol don't buy a lot of dances and so, so many other "facts" that are about as accurate as a Mark Sanchez pass. It's impossible to have a cogent discussion on any matter regarding mileage here; the ones who admit to giving high mileage laps (and, heaven forbid, enjoying them) have long been driven into stripper purgatory and cast out of this website.
Just look at the tone of the responses from many dancers here: unbelievably shrill, and often playing the faux victim card, as if they have no control over their own laps. No one is saying dancers must let a customer suck a tit, nor should a customer have the right to demand to do such an act, as mileage is up the individual stripper and her own comfort level. For me, a major reason to go to a club is for that opportunity, but dancers who don't/won't allow that, that's okay, too, but I limit the amount of dances she gives me. At one club here in Phoenix, one hot Asian dancer with wonderfully soft D-cup fakies has given me dances for 8 years. She'll smush the top of her breasts into my face, but takes charge of the action so that never, in 8 years have I gotten close to her nipples. She's a pro, and she knows how to control her customers and their actions. It's disappointing, and I only get two laps from her per visit because of her limits, but that's her schtick and I respect it.
I'll post what I've posted before about mileage discussions and this website: I've now met in person 30 SW dancers, and of those 30, 29 gave me more to a lot more mileage than they profess to give on this site. All of them laughed about what was written here because they know 90% of it is so much BS. Just roll with it.
CP
audrey_k
04-04-2014, 10:04 PM
Why are you so angry? I thought you said you liked giving high contact lap dances.
When did I say that??? I think this is one of your delusional fantasies darling and not a reality! But feel free to find a quote and prove me wrong!
Vyanka
04-04-2014, 11:15 PM
I thought the men who posted on SW were supporters of strippers. Not members to tick off the ladies in the business.
What gives...
starlily
04-04-2014, 11:36 PM
I thought the men who posted on SW were supporters of strippers. Not members to tick off the ladies in the business.
What gives...
I'm sure many come here for the thrill of talking to strippers, and then they get annoyed when we're not our work personas. Then they try to correct us so we will corroborate their opinion of how a stripper should always act/feel. For example, moosehead asked us if we liked getting our nipples sucked, and when we said no, he tried to correct us. This happens all the time with customers irl who will believe what they want to believe about strippers and disregard anything else, but somehow it's easier to walk away from them in the club than it is to stop arguing with them on the internet!
banished avatar
04-05-2014, 05:27 AM
Welcome to the StripperWeb Paradox, where it is taken as matter of undeniable fact (on this website, if not in real life) that low mileage dances = lots of laps while high mileage dances = 1-2 laps. Just like guys who don't drink alcohol don't buy a lot of dances and so, so many other "facts" that are about as accurate as a Mark Sanchez pass. It's impossible to have a cogent discussion on any matter regarding mileage here; the ones who admit to giving high mileage laps (and, heaven forbid, enjoying them) have long been driven into stripper purgatory and cast out of this website.
Just look at the tone of the responses from many dancers here: unbelievably shrill, and often playing the faux victim card, as if they have no control over their own laps. No one is saying dancers must let a customer suck a tit, nor should a customer have the right to demand to do such an act, as mileage is up the individual stripper and her own comfort level. For me, a major reason to go to a club is for that opportunity, but dancers who don't/won't allow that, that's okay, too, but I limit the amount of dances she gives me. At one club here in Phoenix, one hot Asian dancer with wonderfully soft D-cup fakies has given me dances for 8 years. She'll smush the top of her breasts into my face, but takes charge of the action so that never, in 8 years have I gotten close to her nipples. She's a pro, and she knows how to control her customers and their actions. It's disappointing, and I only get two laps from her per visit because of her limits, but that's her schtick and I respect it.
I'll post what I've posted before about mileage discussions and this website: I've now met in person 30 SW dancers, and of those 30, 29 gave me more to a lot more mileage than they profess to give on this site. All of them laughed about what was written here because they know 90% of it is so much BS. Just roll with it.
CP
Man has a point.
There's a difference between what is said and what is done. What is preferred and what is willing. Read between the lines and know the target audience. Most talks here and especially controversial ones aren't aimed at the veterans but the newbie strangers. What is said to strangers on a public forum is very different than a private one. Different goals. Whether its managing expectations, protecting a reputation, or making a sale, different masks are worn for different times. Tread accordingly.
lurkingtitties
04-05-2014, 02:52 PM
This back and forth reminds me of an interaction I had recently with an Indian customer I did dances for. We did 1 song and the whole time he was super obnoxious about trying to grab my boobs and put his mouth all over me, even though I repeatedly told him not to and was pretty obviously dancing defensively. (Side note-how is it enjoyable for you guys to continue trying to get away with shit when the dancer tells you no? Just keep your hands and mouth to yourself for one song and then go find someone else with looser boundaries. Jeez.) Anyway after the song was over I told him we were done instead of trying to upsell. He was super salty and confused and told me "but I would have gotten 6 or 7 songs if you had let me touch more! I give zero fucks because maintaining my boundaries is more important than one guys $120. EspeciaIly when its not that hard to find someone who will spend that much or more and not be rapey.
I just wish some of the guys commenting in this thread didn't have such condescending attitudes towards dancers who don't offer high mileage.
Doc Holliday
04-05-2014, 03:17 PM
I'm sure many come here for the thrill of talking to strippers, and then they get annoyed when we're not our work personas. Then they try to correct us so we will corroborate their opinion of how a stripper should always act/feel. For example, moosehead asked us if we liked getting our nipples sucked, and when we said no, he tried to correct us. This happens all the time with customers irl who will believe what they want to believe about strippers and disregard anything else, but somehow it's easier to walk away from them in the club than it is to stop arguing with them on the internet!You are in the business of fantasy.
You pull back the curtain on the Wizard of Oz, some people still want to believe it's a wizard.
yoda57us
04-05-2014, 06:05 PM
A reminder to all. This is the customer convo thread but it IS located smack-dab in the middle of Stripper web. We moderate with an eye towards civility toward the ladies since it is their site. Like it says at the top of the thread "Customers ask dancers questions here". Ask away, as long as it is not a question that the mods feel is going to do nothing more than start trouble it will stay up. With that in mind customers need to understand that they may not always like the answers that they get when they ask a question. This is not a section for calling dancers out on any topic. If you have an axe to grind go grind it somewhere else.
The blue section, strip club junkie, is the place where customers can go and, while not being disrespectful, expect a bit more freedom in choosing and debating topics.
Also a reminder, respect is a two way street. Name calling or rude behavior from any member will not be tolerated here.
Kaylak
04-08-2014, 08:27 AM
My philosophy is simple. Strip Clubs are about illusion and fantasy. Brothels and/or Escorts are about actual sex activities. (No shame for this area of the sex work profession.) My boundary is based on a normal, (not as in micro or floss) bikini coverage. The problem with not having tan lines is that tan lines can, ( again wearing a normal sized bikini), clearly designate the touch/don't touch boundary. Having said that, jerks and douches still do not get full privileges in the non bikini coverage areas.
[ I'm sad to hear that such a high percentage, (29 out of 30) of SW members are not honest in the forums. :-/ ]
XxAmber89xX
04-08-2014, 10:25 PM
I will let some regulars do this once I feel comfortable that they aren't gonna try something stupid. A core part of my income comes from appointments that I make with regular custies. Over time, I have to try new things to keep them interested. This is one of many in my toolkit and when I can trust my customer it actually is quite fun.
Vackra
04-11-2014, 03:50 PM
I will let some regulars do this once I feel comfortable that they aren't gonna try something stupid. A core part of my income comes from appointments that I make with regular custies. Over time, I have to try new things to keep them interested. This is one of many in my toolkit and when I can trust my customer it actually is quite fun.
But what if the man is some variety of gross or simply unattractive to you? Aside from the fact that I find the sensation revolting (even in my personal life), I can't do anything sexual with someone I'm not attracted to. It's like my body just shuts off.
Omegaphallic
04-11-2014, 05:22 PM
@Vacra think it comes down to psychology and perpective. For examlpe you can be physically unattracted to someone, but attracted and aroused by that same person because they're funny, or the sexual scenerio itselfs, they have strong personality, beer googles, or my personal favourites empathy and character acting.
Its hard work, but emotions can be manufactured, everytime you feel like shit, and decide you can't make money grumpy and find away to get pumped for the evening you've done.
Like I said though empathy is my favourite. You pretend you're an empathy, that you can sense and feel the emotions of those around you. And you just drink in other peoples arousal, excitement, joy, whatever and we all do this all the time sometimes without realizing it. The imagination is sooo fucking powerful tool, I concider imagination sacred.
So yes you can manufacture emotions in a variety of ways.
But its hard work, draining so while its great to use when you need it, its okay, say at home, to feel negative emotions and feel like shit. In fact sometimes wallowing in negative emotions can be healthy. There is a type of thearpy depend on you feeling and releasing negative feelings naturally.
Vackra
04-11-2014, 07:00 PM
^^ It's a decent point, but it's not for me in the SC. I'm not there to feel anything. I'm there to feed my family.
yoda57us
04-11-2014, 08:34 PM
^^ It's a decent point, but it's not for me in the SC. I'm not there to feel anything. I'm there to feed my family.
That's exactly the point. Everyone has their own personal limits as far as what they can and will do to make money. You can take your clothes off in front of a room full of strangers-well, most women can't do that. Some women can perform sex acts with strangers for money, some women can't. For the same reason that strippers can't choose to only dance for attractive men escorts can't choose to only have sex with attractive men. The mental gymnastics theory espoused by some is interesting but I think it's a lot simpler than that. We all have different limits. It's just that simple. The fact is some women who can escort could never strip and some women who strip could never escort...but I also know women who can and have done both as well as porn and caming.
banished avatar
04-12-2014, 07:14 AM
I will let some regulars do this once I feel comfortable that they aren't gonna try something stupid. A core part of my income comes from appointments that I make with regular custies. Over time, I have to try new things to keep them interested. This is one of many in my toolkit and when I can trust my customer it actually is quite fun.
Exactly. There's two types of customers, the random/sleazy and the comfortable/trustworthy. How y'all interact w one is different from the other. Allowing "extras" (on your terms) makes one a selective dancer vs a "dirty" one. And by extras it doesn't have to be sexual, as it could be personal or privy too.
lawdude
04-13-2014, 02:04 PM
Man has a point.
There's a difference between what is said and what is done. What is preferred and what is willing. Read between the lines and know the target audience. Most talks here and especially controversial ones aren't aimed at the veterans but the newbie strangers. What is said to strangers on a public forum is very different than a private one. Different goals. Whether its managing expectations, protecting a reputation, or making a sale, different masks are worn for different times. Tread accordingly.
Yeah, if I were a dancer, I would totally not want to talk about whatever acts I allowed in a VIP room on a public message board. I wouldn't want to move the baseline in terms of what is considered acceptable mileage, I wouldn't want prospective customers to know what I might do for certain people but not others in the VIP room, I wouldn't want to say anything that law enforcement might see, etc.
So I don't view it as the "stripperweb paradox"; it is no paradox to me. We customers are fortunate that we can access a site and talk to dancers about the side of the business we never see. And it's valuable to us, because let's face it, while it's a lot of fun to go to strip clubs, there's a lot of scams, a lot of dancer behavior that we aren't likely to fully understand, and a lot of times when being able to find out what dancers say to each other is really worth a lot to us.
But there's no scenario in which dancers are going to tell us all the secrets of their trade, especially when it comes to an issue as sensitive as mileage in the VIP room. Customers should get what value there is out of this site, but understand why some things are not going to be talked about openly here.
charlotte.
04-15-2014, 03:42 PM
Exactly. There's two types of customers, the random/sleazy and the comfortable/trustworthy. How y'all interact w one is different from the other. Allowing "extras" (on your terms) makes one a selective dancer vs a "dirty" one. And by extras it doesn't have to be sexual, as it could be personal or privy too.
what is a non sexual extra?
yoda57us
04-15-2014, 04:16 PM
what is a non sexual extra?
LOL, I was wondering when this question would get asked...
Doc Holliday
04-16-2014, 09:08 PM
Q:
what is a non sexual extra?
And by extras it doesn't have to be sexual, as it could be personal or privy too.priv·y
ˈprivē/ noun 1. a toilet located in a small shed outside a house or other building; outhouse
A: Water Sports
Chili Palmer
04-16-2014, 10:50 PM
Q:
priv·y
ˈprivē/ noun 1. a toilet located in a small shed outside a house or other building; outhouse
A: Water Sports
From Merriam.com:
Definition of PRIVY
1
a : private, withdrawn
b : secret
2
: belonging or relating to a person in one's individual rather than official capacity
3
: admitted as one sharing in a secret <privy to the conspiracy>
Doc, stop trying so hard to be "That Guy." If you are going to actually act as the Grammar Police around here, at least be accurate in your snark targets.
CP
Omegaphallic
04-17-2014, 07:49 AM
what is a non sexual extra?
Singing your favourite love songs, painting your portrait, juggling knives, tap dancing, you know the usual stuff ;D
banished avatar
04-17-2014, 07:46 PM
what is a non sexual extra?
Extra info, extra time, extra anything that you don't give to a random. Not saying its free, more of an investment to get them to buy more, either now or later.
charlotte.
04-17-2014, 10:06 PM
Extra info, extra time, extra anything that you don't give to a random. Not saying its free, more of an investment to get them to buy more, either now or later.
trust me honey you are all randoms
Omegaphallic
04-20-2014, 11:00 AM
I ask and sometimes I get a its okay to kiss, but not suck, ehich cool, others no. Honestly I don't ask all the time, if a girl no hands what's the chances she'll be okay with titty sucking?
Omegaphallic
04-20-2014, 11:02 AM
Oh and #5 is very correct Canadians aren't proud of Justin Bieber. We apologize.
Although I find his political twin more embarressing, Justin Trudeau.
SexyForMe17
04-21-2014, 01:50 AM
I do not go for customers putting their mouth on me at all. Once I was in a dance and this customer licked my back and I said we! And he got mad and would only pay me for half the dance. He was not gross himself, but 60 guys a night putting their mouth on you really is! And they seem to think well u should just shower after every dance. Yeah...because I have that much time and all 200 girls at a large club or 40 at a small one be showering every 4 minutes. Wth
pickes
04-26-2014, 07:00 AM
I used to let some customers do it occasionally but now I cannot stand it at all. Even from the cute ones. I've become somewhat of a prude but I like to think of it as raising my standards for the way I'm treated at the club. Also, it's just gross lol
ushar85
05-22-2014, 07:58 PM
To be honest, I'm looking for some intimacy as well as the arousal when going for a lapdance because for me the two go hand in hand. The dancers that do those little things like heavy breathing in the ear, nibbling the lobe, a quick kiss/lick on the neck, and those who allow reciprocation, are the ones I go back to. With that in mind, a dancer is not "wrong" to disallow any of that. But neither is the customer wrong to want that. Expectation is different; I don't expect a dancer to give me anything other than a tease. But I'm hoping for more, and more is what gets my repeat business.
The one time I've sucked on a pair of breasts was with a girl I had taken a few times. We were having a great session and she directly said "suck on my boobs", and even then I almost didn't. Just caught up in the moment. Other than that one time, the most I do is a kiss usually on the neck, and then only with some dancers. Sucking on or licking someone who dances for tens of people a night just doesn't appeal to me.