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rickdugan
03-19-2014, 06:14 AM
Privacy is just one aspect of it. Another aspect is the attitudes and concerns of the hosts/managers. IME, even in most the clubs where sex in the back is common, everything is simply understood and not much explicit dialogue takes place with the manager/host. He gets tipped and the guy and dancer do their thing quietly (those rooms may be private, but most of them aren't exactly soundproof, lol) and without being disturbed. Simple, no fuss, no muss.

One should not assume that a liberal attitude ITC towards p4p sex extends to alternative/less mainstream activities. I'd never want to be customer who tries to tip a manager to allow a strip down to panties and humiliation session to occur. There is a lot of testosterone floating around in those clubs and the knee jerk/WTF? reactions by a lot of these guys would probably not be good. But even the more open minded hosts/managers might shy away from it for reasons of discretion, irrespective of any logic that the panty wearing customer might apply as he explains the situation. And if you do this without getting the advance ok, then your humiliation may be far from limited to that dished out by the dancer if you are spotted in nothing but your panties by any of the staff (waitress going back with a drink, manager/vip host peaking in after hearing something odd, unknown camera monitoring the room, etc.).

Now to each his own DJ and good luck in finding what you are seeking, but I'm not really sure why you would seek this out in a strip club when there are many better places to find it.

doc-catfish
03-19-2014, 07:56 PM
Certainly not advocating anything, but once a lot of customer/dancer relationships turn regular, its not out of the norm in many clubs for contact information to be exchanged, especially in this day and age when everyone has a phone on them. Once that is done, and once a dancer feels that you're a safe prospect, arranging time for this sort of matter off the premises isn't all that difficult if both parties can fit a time and place into their schedules. More uptime for her, possibly less ancillary expense for you.

Radius
03-19-2014, 10:01 PM
Privacy is just one aspect of it. Another aspect is the attitudes and concerns of the hosts/managers. IME, even in most the clubs where sex in the back is common, everything is simply understood and not much explicit dialogue takes place with the manager/host. He gets tipped and the guy and dancer do their thing quietly (those rooms may be private, but most of them aren't exactly soundproof, lol) and without being disturbed. Simple, no fuss, no muss.

Rick, I understand that you've described the situation in the SCs you've been to, and I'm sure you've described them accurately. In the SCs in my town, nothing of what you said remotely applies, and there are far louder and more obvious sex scenes, domination and not, going on, with no need for anyone to get tipped -- and I'm describing those SCs accurately, too. Why not assume the OP, who has stated a few times that discretion is not an issue at the clubs he goes to, knows what he's talking about? Especially since such clubs exist in some cities, speaking from actual direct experience with some of them. He's also told us not to fixate too much on the panties example: "The simple question I asked was is it reasonable to expect the request for some mild physical and verbal humiliation to be met with acceptance from a dancer in the club".



Now to each his own DJ and good luck in finding what you are seeking, but I'm not really sure why you would seek this out in a strip club when there are many better places to find it.

I'm thinking this might be rhetorical, and I'll probably bore everyone to death if I answer in detail, again ... depending on what you're looking for, there's not only NOT many better places to find it, there may be no better places to find it. Obviously, there's always that conditional, "depending on what you're looking for", but for the type of experience the OP is alluding to, the SC is a far better fit than, say, a pro domme, escort who does fetish, etc.

rickdugan
03-21-2014, 08:59 AM
Rick, I understand that you've described the situation in the SCs you've been to, and I'm sure you've described them accurately. In the SCs in my town, nothing of what you said remotely applies, and there are far louder and more obvious sex scenes, domination and not, going on, with no need for anyone to get tipped -- and I'm describing those SCs accurately, too. Why not assume the OP, who has stated a few times that discretion is not an issue at the clubs he goes to, knows what he's talking about? Especially since such clubs exist in some cities, speaking from actual direct experience with some of them. He's also told us not to fixate too much on the panties example: "The simple question I asked was is it reasonable to expect the request for some mild physical and verbal humiliation to be met with acceptance from a dancer in the club".

I'm thinking this might be rhetorical, and I'll probably bore everyone to death if I answer in detail, again ... depending on what you're looking for, there's not only NOT many better places to find it, there may be no better places to find it. Obviously, there's always that conditional, "depending on what you're looking for", but for the type of experience the OP is alluding to, the SC is a far better fit than, say, a pro domme, escort who does fetish, etc.

Radius, the OP asked questions, including whether it was even possible to do. I responded based upon my own experiences, hence the use of "IME" in my response. He was also the one who introduced the concept of girls laughing at him for (among other things) wearing panties, in his opening post no less. If any of this is unclear, then go back up and read again. If you have different experiences and/or opposing viewpoints, then by all means feel free to share them, but you don't get to dictate how others respond just because their views run counter to your own.

In fact, I actually showed some restraint in my initial response by not: (1) telling him that his current difficulty in finding a girl in a Detroit club, of all places, who is willing to do this, should probably tell him something; or (2) responding to what I suspect was the OP's real intent in posting this here.

Now of course there is a girl for every kink, and I have no doubt that the OP will eventually find a willing girl, in the right conditions, if the money is right. But IME (I bolded it this time so that you would see it ;) ) and IMHO, you probably need a lot of stars to align right to pull this off, at least in the clubs that I frequent (mostly in the northeast and parts of the South from Texas eastward). It would seem that the same holds true in Detroit, or else he wouldn't be having so much trouble finding it there.

Radius
03-21-2014, 10:55 AM
Rick, thanks for editing the initial response. I am clear on what the OP did -- and that the panties thing was just an example, and that he gave good reasons why a strip club would be the better place to pursue this. I absolutely don't intend to come across as dictating how others respond -- and, honestly, re-reading my polite response, I can't see any way for my response to be interpreted as dictating anything. It was, instead, exactly what you described -- freely sharing a contrasting viewpoint, and this one based on actual experience and not hypotheticals, and also with firsthand insight as to why the SC can be the BEST place for this. But we don't always come across the way we think we are, so to be clear: I'm not dictating anything, but stating my opposing viewpoint, politely and respectfully I think. And thanks for the help with the bolding lol

rickdugan
03-21-2014, 12:29 PM
Alrighty Radius, I'll take you at your word regarding your intentions. Below then are my responses to those comments that I obviously misinterpreted as attempts to dictate the nature of the conversation... ;)


Why not assume the OP, who has stated a few times that discretion is not an issue at the clubs he goes to, knows what he's talking about? Especially since such clubs exist in some cities, speaking from actual direct experience with some of them.

Because he has never done it at his club and is having trouble even finding a willing partner ITC. Consequently, it is perfectly valid for other members to share their thoughts on the potential underlying issues and we don't have to assume anything. Also, quite obviously it is not as common in his clubs (or for that matter any number of other clubs in different areas) as it is in your strip clubs in San Fran or we wouldn't be having this little chat now. Just some food for thought. :)


He's also told us not to fixate too much on the panties example: "The simple question I asked was is it reasonable to expect the request for some mild physical and verbal humiliation to be met with acceptance from a dancer in the club".

He doesn't get to dictate the terms of the conversation anymore than you do. As you know, his initial post included this:



I am an occasional patron at some of the Detroit clubs but have never had the nerve to ask who might be willing to laugh at me in a pair of my panties, slap my face, tell me I have a tiny dick and then go tell all her friends


Hey, to each his own, but it is in the public domain at that point and a very relevant part of the conversation, especially since the only way that at least one gal is going to see his panties and his "tiny dick" is if he shows them to her. ;) It is also perfectly acceptable for members to read between the lines a bit in formulating their opinions, especially since he mentioned panties and public humiliation in the same short initial post.