tropo
04-14-2014, 04:06 PM
You can be happy without being complacent, but you will never be happy if you focus on what other people are doing except as a source of inspiration - not to be a copy or exactly like them, but to be in awe at the possibilities.
If I had said that I think a "moderately successful model" under the conditions listed makes about $20 an hour, it may stroke your ego, but would you feel complacent? The first week I started, I was making $18 an hour, and I was ecstatic about it at the time, but the key is that I was not complacent. I could have continued to make $18 in ignorant bliss, thinking that I was totally rolling in it and keeping that as my hourly goal, but I would have been worse off for it. Not only in terms of money and job comfort, but in the boredom that comes with such static goals and expectations.
I find it hard to believe that after 8 years, you are just now realizing that there are girls who make more money than you. If I recall correctly, you're in Asia (?), and so maybe you hadn't spent a whole lot of time on sites like SM or MFC (?), but if you want to be at the top of your game not just amongst your immediate peers, but in the industry at large, you need to be resourceful. I can't say what information you had access to 3, 5, or 8 years ago, but you've made it to stripperweb, so except in cases where your residence is a barrier to signing up with or accessing a site, I can only assume that you have access to a plethora of resources.
Even if we didn't post numbers, all you need to do is spend a little bit of time on SM, watch models on the first few rows, and see what kind of money they're pulling in. You know about SM at this point, so if you haven't done that kind of "market research" it's due to a lack of resourcefulness. This all ties into "drive" and "thinking critically and adapting to various situations in an active, positive, and forward thinking manner." I know it may sound harsh but this is exactly the information that you need to be successful...not just the vague notion of "trying harder."
We all have our own obstacles to overcome, though. I don't know where I'd be without stripperweb; it's been a great resource for me. I've been a fly on the wall here for a while now and studied this forum like the camming bible it is before I even started. I read through the raise your rates threads, I've read through Fridays posts and sooo many others that have contributed towards me having high expectations for myself and from my customers. But ultimately, my success comes down to me and how I apply myself throughout this process. You know, internal locus of control.
There will always be people who are prettier than us, smarter than us, and making more money than us. Short answer? Deal with it. You are not alone. Focus on your own happiness and success, however you choose to define it.
^^ Thank you very much for the psychology lesson. I'm dealing with it quite OK thanks and won't be hanging up my cam due to depression anytime soon. I've supported my entire family for over 8 years and they depend on me, so the pressure to succeed is high and I don't have the luxury to quit and complacency is not in my dictionary. Living in a region where the USD goes a lot further and not having to worry about taxes, my overheads are not quite as high as they would be in your country. I've had a bit more stress to make money this year as my savings were depleted as I had to put a new roof on the family home which was wrecked by Typhoon Yolanda which hit the Philippines in November last year. It has been a very stressful 6 months.
I came to SW because my regular site, on which I had been making a fairly livable income (I thought) started going bad and I needed to find new options, which I have. Thank you SW!! I have been at least resourceful enough to join 8 sites in total and I stream to 4 and sometimes 5 simultaneously. A couple of sites (ImLive, MFC and Webcams) have refused my applications, so I'm out of luck there. This has all happened since January and I've even started working on a token site for the fist time. Believe me, I'm not sitting back in complacency... and what I'm doing is working, only it's not making me $8000 per month on 4 hour shifts. If I was making that much I wouldn't stop at 4 hours either. I'd do 10 - 12 hours and pull in a grand a shift - I'm a very hard worker and I'm not as dumb as you may think. We're not all superstars are we? We have to work with what we've got... oh yeah, and making and selling videos is not going to happen for me - I don't do that and never will. I don't want my family to ever find out what I'm up to... I want to protect my future if I can. I know a lot of the girls on the token sites are offering videos for tokens (and even on SM they're offering videos for Gold Shows)... if that is what I have to do to increase my income, then I'm out of luck. When I do flashes on a token site (Chaturbate) I never show my face and pussy or tits in the same frame and don't allow video recording. I know this can limit my income somewhat, but that's how it is.
I did have a look at MFC when it first started out (when I was still able to join), but decided doing shows in public wasn't my thing. For most of my years on cam I only worked on Asians sites and part of the reason was the 50% income share compared to what sites such as SM (30%) and others were offering me. I remember joining LJ back in 2006, but didn't work it because at that time they only offered 30 - 33% commission and I was getting 50% on my site. I still remember my very first shift on November 17, 2005 - I made just over $500 and was so excited. This kicked off my camming career. I never made as much in one week again as I made in my very first week.
... yes, I've always known there are girls making more than I make. I'm not that naive, but I was at the top of the Asians sites I worked on and didn't feel comfortable switching over to non-Asian sites. I was always a bit shy and intimidated to work on a white girl's site and felt more at home working with my own people. Perhaps you can understand that. It was only out of necessity that I've had to join some non-Asian sites and it felt quite intimidating at first. I really didn't think I'd do well at all.
If I had said that I think a "moderately successful model" under the conditions listed makes about $20 an hour, it may stroke your ego, but would you feel complacent? The first week I started, I was making $18 an hour, and I was ecstatic about it at the time, but the key is that I was not complacent. I could have continued to make $18 in ignorant bliss, thinking that I was totally rolling in it and keeping that as my hourly goal, but I would have been worse off for it. Not only in terms of money and job comfort, but in the boredom that comes with such static goals and expectations.
I find it hard to believe that after 8 years, you are just now realizing that there are girls who make more money than you. If I recall correctly, you're in Asia (?), and so maybe you hadn't spent a whole lot of time on sites like SM or MFC (?), but if you want to be at the top of your game not just amongst your immediate peers, but in the industry at large, you need to be resourceful. I can't say what information you had access to 3, 5, or 8 years ago, but you've made it to stripperweb, so except in cases where your residence is a barrier to signing up with or accessing a site, I can only assume that you have access to a plethora of resources.
Even if we didn't post numbers, all you need to do is spend a little bit of time on SM, watch models on the first few rows, and see what kind of money they're pulling in. You know about SM at this point, so if you haven't done that kind of "market research" it's due to a lack of resourcefulness. This all ties into "drive" and "thinking critically and adapting to various situations in an active, positive, and forward thinking manner." I know it may sound harsh but this is exactly the information that you need to be successful...not just the vague notion of "trying harder."
We all have our own obstacles to overcome, though. I don't know where I'd be without stripperweb; it's been a great resource for me. I've been a fly on the wall here for a while now and studied this forum like the camming bible it is before I even started. I read through the raise your rates threads, I've read through Fridays posts and sooo many others that have contributed towards me having high expectations for myself and from my customers. But ultimately, my success comes down to me and how I apply myself throughout this process. You know, internal locus of control.
There will always be people who are prettier than us, smarter than us, and making more money than us. Short answer? Deal with it. You are not alone. Focus on your own happiness and success, however you choose to define it.
^^ Thank you very much for the psychology lesson. I'm dealing with it quite OK thanks and won't be hanging up my cam due to depression anytime soon. I've supported my entire family for over 8 years and they depend on me, so the pressure to succeed is high and I don't have the luxury to quit and complacency is not in my dictionary. Living in a region where the USD goes a lot further and not having to worry about taxes, my overheads are not quite as high as they would be in your country. I've had a bit more stress to make money this year as my savings were depleted as I had to put a new roof on the family home which was wrecked by Typhoon Yolanda which hit the Philippines in November last year. It has been a very stressful 6 months.
I came to SW because my regular site, on which I had been making a fairly livable income (I thought) started going bad and I needed to find new options, which I have. Thank you SW!! I have been at least resourceful enough to join 8 sites in total and I stream to 4 and sometimes 5 simultaneously. A couple of sites (ImLive, MFC and Webcams) have refused my applications, so I'm out of luck there. This has all happened since January and I've even started working on a token site for the fist time. Believe me, I'm not sitting back in complacency... and what I'm doing is working, only it's not making me $8000 per month on 4 hour shifts. If I was making that much I wouldn't stop at 4 hours either. I'd do 10 - 12 hours and pull in a grand a shift - I'm a very hard worker and I'm not as dumb as you may think. We're not all superstars are we? We have to work with what we've got... oh yeah, and making and selling videos is not going to happen for me - I don't do that and never will. I don't want my family to ever find out what I'm up to... I want to protect my future if I can. I know a lot of the girls on the token sites are offering videos for tokens (and even on SM they're offering videos for Gold Shows)... if that is what I have to do to increase my income, then I'm out of luck. When I do flashes on a token site (Chaturbate) I never show my face and pussy or tits in the same frame and don't allow video recording. I know this can limit my income somewhat, but that's how it is.
I did have a look at MFC when it first started out (when I was still able to join), but decided doing shows in public wasn't my thing. For most of my years on cam I only worked on Asians sites and part of the reason was the 50% income share compared to what sites such as SM (30%) and others were offering me. I remember joining LJ back in 2006, but didn't work it because at that time they only offered 30 - 33% commission and I was getting 50% on my site. I still remember my very first shift on November 17, 2005 - I made just over $500 and was so excited. This kicked off my camming career. I never made as much in one week again as I made in my very first week.
... yes, I've always known there are girls making more than I make. I'm not that naive, but I was at the top of the Asians sites I worked on and didn't feel comfortable switching over to non-Asian sites. I was always a bit shy and intimidated to work on a white girl's site and felt more at home working with my own people. Perhaps you can understand that. It was only out of necessity that I've had to join some non-Asian sites and it felt quite intimidating at first. I really didn't think I'd do well at all.