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justanothercamgirl
05-16-2014, 07:51 AM
Crazy old ladies unite!!! I just had a vision of you and me in 25 years. Camming from our wheelchairs. Standing up for 20 gold in our walkers. Shaking our artificial hips :D
I'll probably be there with you, but you'll just have to give me a little time to catch up. ;)
Glamourmilf
05-16-2014, 08:05 AM
^^ That's funny! With inflation, it will be more like 200 gold to stand, etc.!
I finally found the most comfy way to cam yesterday. (took me 4 years but ,better late than never).:idea:
I cam from my recliner in the upright position, with my laptop on a stand up tray on my ottoman.
So comfy, with toys next to me on the bed, out of cam site, and T.V. on behind the cam, to alleviate boredom. (I'm usually staring at a wall in other places)
I just started using it for voyeur shows, but soon realized how easy it was to do shows from, without getting back strain.
Plus, now I can use my Hitachi without it shorting out everything else around me, and cutting out my stream.
Plus, when I'm in doggy style, (which is 99% of my shows,) I can just look out my window at my awesome view of the city!
I just use natural light coming in from the windows, so my eyes don't get that dried out, burning sensation from the glaring lights.
Custies must pick up how comfy I am, because even using my old, non HD computer, I still get way more prvts. than before.:thumbsup:
SaraLaughs
05-16-2014, 09:13 AM
I don't think I've ever appreciated my IUD so much than I have since I started camming. :D No periods outside of mild spotting once every few months.
justanothercamgirl
05-16-2014, 09:56 AM
Argh, yesterday I didn't want to get off camera and today I don't want to get back on camera.
Come on motivation, don't fail me now!
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Glamourmilf
05-17-2014, 06:07 AM
^^Arghh!! I know how You feel JAC! I felt the same way yesterday, and it took me until late in the day to even get on...
Interestingly enough, I did better (money wise), doing mostly voyeur shows than I did all week sitting being frustrated, waiting for prvts.!
I was trying not to be burned out, knowing that today and tomorrow I'm doing long hours in free chat. (that is, until I can't stand it anymore).:chat:
SimoneGray
05-17-2014, 07:30 AM
I've had such a rough week, been so crazily hormonal and everything is making me cry...not ideal for being sexy on cam lol. Am still going to try my best to be positive and get on cam
anonymous camgirl
05-18-2014, 05:29 AM
Girls! I am so excited to tell you that after one day of drinking my home made chicken broth ( 1 cup).. and taking Dr Christophers complete bone and tissue.. I did not wake up in extreme pain and very stiff.. I forgot all about the capsules, I used to take them to heal my broken shoulder.. I wanted to tell you, any of you who are tremendously suffering with joint problems, arthritis etc etc.. It's about 11 bucks a bottle on amazon. I am still hurting but I feel like soon I won't be.. will keep you guys updated. I think I am gonna start buying this at least one a month til I can get in shape without getting an injury.. and the bone broth!
Glamourmilf
05-18-2014, 07:33 AM
^^That's awesome news! Please keep us posted, because if I can alleviate this arthritis pain, I'm home free. I will bet that I would have more energy without all this pain zapping it.
anonymous camgirl
05-18-2014, 05:02 PM
Ok Update from this morning! Already the pain in my wrists have almost completely subsided.. and I had some serious pain in my knee.. this is after a day and a half!.. God why wasn't I taking this 4 weeks ago!.. this is a miracle worker...
Girls! I am so excited to tell you that after one day of drinking my home made chicken broth ( 1 cup).. and taking Dr Christophers complete bone and tissue.. I did not wake up in extreme pain and very stiff.. I forgot all about the capsules, I used to take them to heal my broken shoulder.. I wanted to tell you, any of you who are tremendously suffering with joint problems, arthritis etc etc.. It's about 11 bucks a bottle on amazon. I am still hurting but I feel like soon I won't be.. will keep you guys updated. I think I am gonna start buying this at least one a month til I can get in shape without getting an injury.. and the bone broth!
anonymous camgirl
05-18-2014, 05:04 PM
You HAVE to try this!.. I almost pain free in just a day and a half .. the unbearable bruising pain I feel in my hands and wrists that was going on almost an entire 4 weeks is almost completely gone already.. go on Amazon and look for Dr Christopher's Complete bone and tissue.
^^That's awesome news! Please keep us posted, because if I can alleviate this arthritis pain, I'm home free. I will bet that I would have more energy without all this pain zapping it.
justanothercamgirl
05-18-2014, 05:09 PM
Girls! I am so excited to tell you that after one day of drinking my home made chicken broth ( 1 cup).. and taking Dr Christophers complete bone and tissue.. I did not wake up in extreme pain and very stiff.. I forgot all about the capsules, I used to take them to heal my broken shoulder.. I wanted to tell you, any of you who are tremendously suffering with joint problems, arthritis etc etc.. It's about 11 bucks a bottle on amazon. I am still hurting but I feel like soon I won't be.. will keep you guys updated. I think I am gonna start buying this at least one a month til I can get in shape without getting an injury.. and the bone broth!
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anonymous camgirl
05-19-2014, 11:37 AM
Still feeling good!.. getting better and better.. I am actually smiling and elated.. I had some pain this morning when i woke up which made me discouraged but started to dissipate.. way better than them fastt patches i bought at 60 bucks a pop!
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 03:51 PM
I am Bipolar Disorder II, which typically means my mood cycling is over longer periods of time, months, years, etc. Mine has usually been every 7 years. There's always the underlying clinical depression and now that I've done some hypnotherapy, my anxiety is a lesser enemy, but still ever present. I get very emotional and irrational around while PMSing and on the actual period itself.
I have found that my cycles and mood swings are becoming much more frequent. Like, weekly, if not every few days kinda frequent. I'm concerned.
I take medication and am not going to debate anyone on their opinion of psychiatry because it has been a godsend for me, and that's that.
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i constantly feel like i'm disappointing people and it adds to the anxiety. i can't make plans with friends and expect to stick to them because i might need to flake out for my own mental sanity. it's made me the unreliable friend, which i hate feeling like.
i self sabotage because once something is getting "too good" or whatev, it makes me uncomfortable and seems like, well, at least if I'M the one to fuck things up, then, I don't get hurt. Relationships. School. Stable great-company/jobs/Work. Etc. all have been affected and it leads to a cycle of "Well, I'll just fuck things up again. Why even try?"
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i need to find a sex positive therapist, which my friend HAS, but my insurance does not cover. i've never quite had a great therapist with the exception of one, no nonsense lady while I lived in another city....not accessible now, of course.
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I have shitty body issues due to my parents telling me i'm fat for 24ish years.
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i'm just posting this because I'm having a sad day for no real tangible reason I can think of. School pressure might be the trigger. Roommate's passive aggression is another because for fucks sake, we all deserve to live in a positive environment. Money is heavy on my mind ALWAYS. I'm fucking lonely and have not even felt comfortable enough with myself to have sex for the longest span in a while.
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i don't know if i'll continually check in to keep up on this, but, writing about things is my release. Thx for reading.
sexymar21
05-19-2014, 04:30 PM
I have BPD and SEVERE anxiety. I'm constantly fighting a panic attack or suicidal thoughts, which camming sometimes triggers if I get a troll. I started camming to validate myself as a sexual being. Anything that even remotely simulates pain freaks me out and I think that really drives a lot of my custies away because I'm not into it.
Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 04:38 PM
Welcome to the club, Melly. I'm sorry you're struggling at the moment.
I take medication and am not going to debate anyone on their opinion of psychiatry because it has been a godsend for me, and that's that.
I would be quite surprised if anyone wanted to debate that here, considering how many of the "sick girls" are also "crazy girls" (which I don't say in a derogatory manner, just for lack of a good generic term). I think a whole lot of us have benefited from psychiatry at one time or another. Also, it's pretty widely accepted that bipolar is nothing to take lightly or try to handle alone.
i constantly feel like i'm disappointing people and it adds to the anxiety. i can't make plans with friends and expect to stick to them because i might need to flake out for my own mental sanity. it's made me the unreliable friend, which i hate feeling like.
I can't add to this, but I empathize 1000%.
i need to find a sex positive therapist, which my friend HAS, but my insurance does not cover. i've never quite had a great therapist with the exception of one, no nonsense lady while I lived in another city....not accessible now, of course.
Actually, I was wondering if any of the "sick girls" had some insights about therapy. I've never seen a therapist, and I'm not really sure what the point of therapy is. I'm pretty sure that my issues (ADD, chronic major depression, generalized anxiety) stem primarily from chemical/neurological imbalances, so is there any reason I might want to see a therapist? It's not like I have some sort of childhood trauma I need to work through (as far as I know). So what do you guys think? Anyone benefited from therapy? Can you point to any objective ways that it helped you improve yourself?
Also, how important is it to find sex-positive healthcare providers, especially therapists? I live in a city that, for unknown reasons, doesn't have nearly enough mental healthcare providers to care for the number of "crazy" people that live here. I can't change psychiatrists, because he is the ONLY one here that treats adult ADD (and I like him, so that's good), but he seems pretty old-school, so I haven't told him that I cam. I assume that it would be different with a therapist - wouldn't it defeat the purpose if you couldn't even tell her what you do for a living? How does one go about finding a sex-positive therapist in the first place? Is it safe to assume that most therapists would be sex-positive, since their job is all about acceptance and touchy-feely stuff?
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 04:48 PM
Magical Hoohah (still a fave screen name, btw)
I do have some friends from this forum that have differing views on psychiatry/meds/chemical imbalances and we've agreed to not discuss it. BUT IRL, online, etc, I get challenged about it CONSTANTLY.
It's also a side effect of being in LA with an ever present uhhhh......religion or whatever that tells me depression is a figment of my imagination and that i will be like a columbine killer for taking medication. (but, to each their own until they/anyone goes ahead and tries to shove it down my throat.....)
i hope i don't sound to offensive, it's just but 13 yrs of defending myself against that taking meds which have been helpful to me. I'm moreso always on the defensive on this matter, so it's different for me to be surrounded, even just virtually, with others in the same boat as me.
(I also don't want to get into religion talk because.....srsly, whatever works for anyone is a good thing, amirite?)
xo.
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 04:54 PM
Actually, I was wondering if any of the "sick girls" had some insights about therapy. I've never seen a therapist, and I'm not really sure what the point of therapy is. I'm pretty sure that my issues (ADD, chronic major depression, generalized anxiety) stem primarily from chemical/neurological imbalances, so is there any reason I might want to see a therapist? It's not like I have some sort of childhood trauma I need to work through (as far as I know). So what do you guys think? Anyone benefited from therapy? Can you point to any objective ways that it helped you improve yourself?
Also, how important is it to find sex-positive healthcare providers, especially therapists? I live in a city that, for unknown reasons, doesn't have nearly enough mental healthcare providers to care for the number of "crazy" people that live here. I can't change psychiatrists, because he is the ONLY one here that treats adult ADD (and I like him, so that's good), but he seems pretty old-school, so I haven't told him that I cam. I assume that it would be different with a therapist - wouldn't it defeat the purpose if you couldn't even tell her what you do for a living? How does one go about finding a sex-positive therapist in the first place? Is it safe to assume that most therapists would be sex-positive, since their job is all about acceptance and touchy-feely stuff?
i'm a big fan (if you can say that) of Cognitive Behavoiral Therapy. If, on a weekly/biweekly/monthly basis, you DREAD going to the appts because you don't feel like crying and dealing with something shitty, you can be sure it's a good thing. That sounds weird but I think it is an indication that the talking out of ones' feelings, experiences, etc is working. It is not so fun to be in an uncomfortable place but, yeah yeah yeah, we all know that is essential to making positive progress.
HOWEVER, finding the right therapist is so essential. The one I have currently, I end up lying to. I am not interested in being shamed about my sex life or dynamic with dudes or GOD FORBID MAKING $ BEING NUDE.
I will ask my friend where she found this therapist. I know she found a network of sex-posi mental health options.
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 04:57 PM
I don't really think it IS safe to assume therapists are sex positive because they think it's an indication of underlying issues, ie abuse, low self esteem, etc. For some, that may the way it is manifested, but not EVERYONE, ya know? I mean, this friend goes to her primarily to discuss the dynamic of her polyamory and such and i can't even imagine bringing that up to my therapist. or previous ones.
After trial and error, I found that I require a female therapist, though. srsly.
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 05:00 PM
I would be quite surprised if anyone wanted to debate that here, considering how many of the "sick girls" are also "crazy girls" (which I don't say in a derogatory manner, just for lack of a good generic term).
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Actually, I was wondering if any of the "sick girls" had some insights about therapy. I've never seen a therapist, and I'm not really sure what the point of therapy is. I'm pretty sure that my issues (ADD, chronic major depression, generalized anxiety) stem primarily from chemical/neurological imbalances, so is there any reason I might want to see a therapist? It's not like I have some sort of childhood trauma I need to work through (as far as I know). So what do you guys think? Anyone benefited from therapy? Can you point to any objective ways that it helped you improve yourself?
Since I am 'legally insane' I figured I might as well throw my 2 cents in. It is one of the few questions on Stripperweb that I have ever been 'overqualified' to answer. LOL!
Let's just say I am not really interested in receiving any treatment by a 'profession' that used to consider homosexuality a type of mental disorder. (http://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/02/myth-buster.aspx)
SaraLaughs
05-19-2014, 05:16 PM
I just wanted to add... I've been in therapy on and off for many years, probably totalling up to around 250 sessions overall. I've had about a dozen counselors. All I can say is not all therapists are created equal. Some will find reasons to try to control you, or push you to see their way. Others are saints and godsends in the job they do. Most will comfort you in your fears and suggest ways to better yourself.
Not every counselor receives the same education. Some are people with a bachelor's of psychology and a vocational program under their belt. Some have their masters in social work, others still took specialized courses in occupational therapy. Some find they serve specific types of clients better than others (couples, families, mental health, general trauma). But MOST (in my experience) provide genuine empathy and support for whatever crisis situation or long-term care you need.
At least where I live, counselors would be held accountable and possibly charged if they discriminated against someone for their sexual orientation. And in general, where I live, over 90% of the population sees homosexuality on (politically, at least) neutral/positive terms. So I guess I'd be pretty shocked if I encountered discrimination as a result of my sexual orientation.
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 05:34 PM
At least where I live, counselors would be held accountable and possibly charged if they discriminated against someone for their sexual orientation. And in general, where I live, over 90% of the population sees homosexuality on (politically, at least) neutral/positive terms. So I guess I'd be pretty shocked if I encountered discrimination as a result of my sexual orientation.
We have been very lucky for all the recent gains against discrimination of sexual orientation.
Homosexuality was only removed entirely from the DSM as mental disorder in 1986.
Think of how much farther we could already be with the current prejudice against homosexuality if the mental profession hadn't made it worse.
I am sure there are many good therapists and I am sure that a very large amounts of therapists are very good people. I have heard many success stories from my own friends but in my personal opinion that this is -despite- of the mental health profession and not because of it.
The last lobotomy was performed in 1967. Between 40,000 and 50,000 had been performed in the years before. After the demise of the lobotomy....the 70s right up to the end of the 80s were a time of the ' a new type of Bedlam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlem_Royal_Hospital)' when the mental health profession went through major growing pains. Electric shock was a popular treatment. I am very intimate with how popular it became. My experience with the mental health profession was not been a kind one. It has been one of cruelty that bordered on torture.
But of course, this is just my 2 cents. YMMV.
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 05:38 PM
Flowers and ponies for everyone!
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 06:13 PM
Flowers and ponies for everyone!
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Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 06:25 PM
Good stuff. I can see both sides of the coin on the psychiatry issue, but had assumed that most of us "sick girls" understand that we each need to do what we need to do in order to survive and thrive as much as possible. That's why I said that I would be surprised if people wanted to debate Melly's decision to engage in the medical treatment of her choice. Obviously, there are tons of people out there that will shame us for those choices, and I have experienced that, too. I also can get defensive about the way I choose to handle my health. I'd really like to believe that the ladies of CC and the CC "Sick Girls' Club" would be more open-minded than the rest of the world in that arena, though.
Yes, psychiatry does have a pretty dark history, and continues to have a lot of flaws. For example, I really believe that ADD is not a mental problem, it's just a type of brain functionality that isn't terribly compatible with the expectations of our current society. ADD can be a type of brilliance in a number of areas, especially for artists of all types, certain scientists, people that have to do a lot of brainstorming, etc. The same can be said of a lot of portions of the autism scale (if not the whole thing). Likewise there are mountains of personality disorders, many of which sound more like natural, typical personality types. Like treating homosexuality as a mental disorder (which was really fucking horrible), those are some areas where I think psychiatry currently has it wrong. Of course, there was also a time when it was believed that the plague was transmitted by eye contact, and thankfully we've learned some stuff since then. In general, the medical field seems to fly by the seat of its pants most of the time, and the human mind and body remain very mysterious. There was room for improvement in the past, and there's still room for improvement. I can see why anyone would choose not to trust a realm of medicine that has had that kind of past and still lacks so much research and understanding.
However, I can't really see the whole industry as "bad." A lot of people would be much, much worse off if it weren't for psychiatry, and despite its failings, it's making life possible and/or better for a lot of people. There are tremendous numbers of people that need mental health treatment for various reasons, and right now, psychiatry is really the best we've got for many of them. I also believe that there are numerous people working in the realm of psychiatry that are doing their very best to help people and improve upon their field. For some of us, psychiatry is providing exactly what we need, and for some of us it's holding us together until something better comes around. Before we had measures to prevent gangrene, decent amputation procedures were sort of a miracle, kwim?
(Also, I realize that historically homosexuality was considered a disease, which is ridiculous and inhumane. I'd like think that it was easy for bigoted doctors to spread that belief to more open-minded doctors because a lot of homosexuals probably *did* need some form of mental health support. With the exception of perhaps ancient Greece and Rome, it's never been easy to live in Western society as a homosexual. I'm sure quite a lot of them could have benefited from some type of treatment, if nothing other than a little therapy. If an open-minded doctor noticed that a number of homosexual patients needed help, it wouldn't take a huge jump to imagine that it was the homosexuality, rather than society's discrimination, that caused the issues. Not that that's right or acceptable, but it's possible that for some doctors it was an honest mistake in reasoning.)
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 06:34 PM
However, I can't really see the whole industry as "bad." A lot of people would be much, much worse off if it weren't for psychiatry, and despite its failings, it's making life possible and/or better for a lot of people. There are tremendous numbers of people that need mental health treatment for various reasons, and right now, psychiatry is really the best we've got for many of them. I also believe that there are numerous people working in the realm of psychiatry that are doing their very best to help people and improve upon their field. For some of us, psychiatry is providing exactly what we need, and for some of us it's holding us together until something better comes around. Before we had measures to prevent gangrene, decent amputation procedures were sort of a miracle, kwim?
Oh my goodness! I hope you don't think that I am of the opinion that the mental health profession is all bad. There is some things they do amazingly well! The treatment of schizophrenics for one. They have also made amazing gains when it comes to autism. Also cognitive therapy seems to have really been amazing gains for those people with bipolar.
I just wish the mental health profession wouldn't take itself so seriously. I think the whole situation with mental illness would really improve it would stop thinking that it had all the answers and stop treating the mentally ill as if they are something broken that needs to be fixed.
Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 06:35 PM
Thanks to those that have provided thoughts about therapy. I suppose it's just one of those things that everyone has to try out for themselves, but it's good to know that therapists can vary so much. I suppose that's why some people change their therapists like they change their panties.
Also, extremely good to know that not all of them are sex-positive, or at least sex-work-positive. If you have a therapist working in the same practice with your psychiatrist, are they legally allowed to exchange notes about you? So, if I had a therapist that knew what I do for a living, could she trot across the hall to my p-doc and tell him about it?
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 06:39 PM
There are tremendous numbers of people that need mental health treatment for various reasons, and right now, psychiatry is really the best we've got for many of them.
Oh, I forgot to respond to this part because I was so worried you thought I had a hate on for all of the mental health profession.
I respectfully disagree that 'psychiatry is really the best we've got for many of them'.
I've got all my money bet on neuroscience and 'neuronutrition' instead. ;)
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 06:40 PM
I dunno if anyone even watched this show months ago on LOGO, but it was called "Bad Sex." The therapist (actually, internist, which is also very important to note. My "internist" therapist experience was one of the best thus far. They are indeed supervised? i guess you could say, by a licensed/experienced/whatev colleague, so yeah).
It was all about being sexi positive via group and individual sessions on a wide variety of "issues" - i dunno if it's available online anywhere LEGALLY ;) but it's worth watching. Everything gets touched on..... homosexuality, family dynamic, shame, compulsive cheating, sex for self validation, porn addiction, 40 yr old virgins and fear of intimacy, random tinder/CL hookup addicts, masturbation addicts, those into rough sex and why, polyamory, how to discuss with a new partner or partners & navigating the dating scene with these so called TABOOS, etc etc etc.
I thought the internist was very good, and is actually geographically (not financially) accessible to me.
He never made the people feel shitty BUT he did hold people accountable.
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 06:41 PM
If you have a therapist working in the same practice with your psychiatrist, are they legally allowed to exchange notes about you? So, if I had a therapist that knew what I do for a living, could she trot across the hall to my p-doc and tell him about it?
I must admit that I don't know anything about where you live --- but in Canada one of my friends got a shock a short while ago when she found out that her therapist handed over their notes to her insurance company. :/
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 06:46 PM
If you have a therapist working in the same practice with your psychiatrist, are they legally allowed to exchange notes about you? So, if I had a therapist that knew what I do for a living, could she trot across the hall to my p-doc and tell him about it?
Both my psychologist and psychiatrist are within the same Medical Group/building/2 rooms from each other. They do exchange notes, and I am aware of it as well as aware of it going into the process. I felt it to be a good thing, but mostly, they just skim over things, tbh.
It's moreso that it's one folder documenting my visits, progress, etc.
HOWEVER, were it to be publicized to my insurance company, these private, confidential matters, that - as far as USA, is entirely illegal. Hippocratic oath and all. How fucked up that is for your friend JAC. ugh.
Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Oh my goodness! I hope you don't think that I am of the opinion that the mental health profession is all bad. There is some things they do amazingly well! The treatment of schizophrenics for one. They have also made amazing gains when it comes to autism. Also cognitive therapy seems to have really been amazing gains for those people with bipolar.
I just wish the mental health profession wouldn't take itself so seriously. I think the whole situation with mental illness would really improve it would stop thinking that it had all the answers and stop treating the mentally ill as if they are something broken that needs to be fixed.
No, I haven't noticed you to be a "things are black or white only" type of person. I think I just got going and wanted to counterbalance my own arguments properly.
And I agree, psychiatry, the entire medical field, and possibly all of science in general, need to stop acting like we have everything all figured out. It's amazing the things we know about the human mind/human body/universe, but it's more amazing how much we don't know. You hardly ever see a doctor say "I don't know wtf is wrong with you, but we'll try to figure it out." Or "I don't know how to fix that, so let's do some trial and error." I think I'd be far more comfortable with a medical practitioner of any sort that could make those types of confessions.
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 06:49 PM
Both my psychologist and psychiatrist are within the same Medical Group/building/2 rooms from each other. They do exchange notes, and I am aware of it as well as aware of it going into the process. I felt it to be a good thing, but mostly, they just skim over things, tbh.
It's moreso that it's one folder documenting my visits, progress, etc.
HOWEVER, were it to be publicized to my insurance company, these private, confidential matters, that - as far as USA, is entirely illegal. Hippocratic oath and all. How fucked up that is for your friend JAC. ugh.
I am not even sure how it happened! Canada has been doing a lot of things lately that has really been full of suck. :/
I seriously wish my country would stop it. They were really rocking the casbah earlier this year.
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 06:52 PM
When I was 18 and saw my first doctor about depression (wasn't diagnosed bipolar til 25....AND THEN IT ALL MADE SENSE!) - I felt the shame and stigma of society and had that "I can handle this myself" mentality.
The dr. said this: "Imagine you had diabetes. Would you treat it? Perhaps not with medication or what have you, but, wouldn't you feel it necessary to be addressed?" That has been perhaps one of the most mind blowingly real, honest, perspective-giving statements of my life.
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 06:52 PM
And I agree, psychiatry, the entire medical field, and possibly all of science in general, need to stop acting like we have everything all figured out.
The best specialist to go and see are the 'dangerous disease and parasite' specialists. They never pretend to know anything because there field of medicine is really still young.
When they first were sending me everywhere to try and figure out what was wrong with my health I ended up seeing one. He told me, "Fucked if I know what is going on with you...but at least you can tell all your friends you are parasite free." LOL!
Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 06:55 PM
Oh, I forgot to respond to this part because I was so worried you thought I had a hate on for all of the mental health profession.
I respectfully disagree that 'psychiatry is really the best we've got for many of them'.
I've got all my money bet on neuroscience and 'neuronutrition' instead. ;)
That's fair. I do like a lot of the research they're doing in neuroscience. Actually, the very first doctor I saw was a neurologist and did a good job with assessing me (although he had the personality of a total douchebag).
I'd always sort of hoped that the neuroscientists were handing their research over to the psychiatrists, who would then use it to update psychiatry. Maybe that's not happening? If not, it's a shame.
I'll have to look into neuronutrition. Sounds interesting.
Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 07:01 PM
I must admit that I don't know anything about where you live --- but in Canada one of my friends got a shock a short while ago when she found out that her therapist handed over their notes to her insurance company. :/
Both my psychologist and psychiatrist are within the same Medical Group/building/2 rooms from each other. They do exchange notes, and I am aware of it as well as aware of it going into the process. I felt it to be a good thing, but mostly, they just skim over things, tbh.
It's moreso that it's one folder documenting my visits, progress, etc.
HOWEVER, were it to be publicized to my insurance company, these private, confidential matters, that - as far as USA, is entirely illegal. Hippocratic oath and all. How fucked up that is for your friend JAC. ugh.
Oh Jebus. About 90% of all the mental health practitioners in my city are working in the same practice, so I guess there's no way to keep secrets from the p-doc. He might be totally cool with it, but it's conservative here, and he's old. He might find out that I'm a sex-worker and immediately assume that I'm some desperate whore selling my ADD meds. That wouldn't be great...
justanothercamgirl
05-19-2014, 07:07 PM
I'll have to look into neuronutrition. Sounds interesting.
Neuronutriton is really, really new. You'll have a very hard time finding much on it.
It is all based on recent research that shows that your gut might actually operate as a second brain.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/
Edited to add: Now that I think of it.....I am not even sure if the academic world even calls it that or if it is just my own short-hand word I made to talk to people about it. LOL! Like I said, it still has that 'new car (research) smell' on it. ;)
Ooops......forgot to leave the 'Low levels of healthy gut bacteria could be the cause of mental health issues such as 'anxiety and schizophrenia' link too! It is the newest of the research coming out.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2419418/Low-levels-healthy-gut-bacteria-cause-mental-health-issues-anxiety-schizophrenia-say-scientists.html#ixzz32DZuLX7Q
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 07:18 PM
Oh Jebus. About 90% of all the mental health practitioners in my city are working in the same practice, so I guess there's no way to keep secrets from the p-doc. He might be totally cool with it, but it's conservative here, and he's old. He might find out that I'm a sex-worker and immediately assume that I'm some desperate whore selling my ADD meds. That wouldn't be great...
this is really the FIRST instance they've been at the same locale. I've never had such crossover before, and ultimately, I've stopped seeing the talk therapist because she is not supportive if me. I'm not into being scolded. I have also not disclosed my camming stuff to either of them....hence why i am seeking the sex-posi option....... however i am very straightforward about my medical w33d use with alllllll doctors.
Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 07:37 PM
Those were some interesting articles JAC! It makes perfect sense (although I have to agree with some commentators that calling it a "second brain" seems misleading). I have no idea why neurology wouldn't consider the effects of the rest of the nerve system, which should be fully integrated with the brain. And it makes sense that your enteric nervous system would be very complex - our digestive tract takes the myriad stuff we eat and turns it into the building blocks and fuel of our bodies. That's no simple process. It also makes sense that the gut bacteria and the stuff you eat would affect the related nervous systems, which of course are attached to your brain (like all the rest of your nerves). I'm going to go have some yogurt now.
JaneBurgess
05-19-2014, 07:48 PM
Psychs are usually for medication and therapists provide therapy. I see a therapist for anxiety/panic attacks and have had a lot of success. I also don't think any of us on here are crazy, even joking I find that annoying. People actually think that and it really pisses me off. I do think doctors need to stop giving so many psych drugs. I was on Paxil for years and not only gained lots of weight but felt like a robot. Then I tried a few other shitty drugs and was finally put on Xanax and they left me on it for almost five years. That drug was a BITCH to quit, and made me sick for months while they lowered the dose so I could stop taking it. I'm not taking anything now and feel 100 times better. I am going down the natural path for now.
JaneBurgess
05-19-2014, 07:52 PM
Not in the US they can't due to HIPAA laws. They can only share your information if you are a threat to others or if you give permission for it to be shared in writing.
Thanks to those that have provided thoughts about therapy. I suppose it's just one of those things that everyone has to try out for themselves, but it's good to know that therapists can vary so much. I suppose that's why some people change their therapists like they change their panties.
Also, extremely good to know that not all of them are sex-positive, or at least sex-work-positive. If you have a therapist working in the same practice with your psychiatrist, are they legally allowed to exchange notes about you? So, if I had a therapist that knew what I do for a living, could she trot across the hall to my p-doc and tell him about it?
MellyMay
05-19-2014, 07:54 PM
I will throw this info into the mix: in 2004, I detoxed cold turkey off Klonopin. Highly not recommended, however rehab facilities had a two month waiting list and $1700 minimum price tag. It was a heroin withdrawal. Despite psychiatry having helped me, I know that there are so many disadvantages to it and also that meds are frequently prescribed without necessity. I hope everyone knows I don't want to make a blanket statement that meds are the greatest thing ever. Big pharmaceutical companies are a huge concern of mine and I understand it not being the path for everyone. I hope I haven't imposed my thoughts too much on anyone
Magical_Hoohah
05-19-2014, 08:17 PM
I also don't think any of us on here are crazy
Agreed, but I've lost track of political correctness, and I honestly can't remember what the proper phrase is. "Mental health challenged" just sounded silly and I figured it was probably wrong. (The local government here just renamed the Department of Mental Retardation less then 2 years ago, so we're a clearly bit behind the times. In fact, I think "crazy" gets used with a non-judgmental tone fairly frequently. I should probably move away sooner rather than later.)
What's the current preferred generic term for those with mental health issues of some sort?
JaneBurgess
05-19-2014, 09:40 PM
My therapist said studies prove that people with mental issues are more intelligent and sensitive than the average person. I would say we are pretty damn awesome. Most people have some kind of medical issue so it's pretty common.
Agreed, but I've lost track of political correctness, and I honestly can't remember what the proper phrase is. "Mental health challenged" just sounded silly and I figured it was probably wrong. (The local government here just renamed the Department of Mental Retardation less then 2 years ago, so we're a clearly bit behind the times. In fact, I think "crazy" gets used with a non-judgmental tone fairly frequently. I should probably move away sooner rather than later.)
What's the current preferred generic term for those with mental health issues of some sort?
justanothercamgirl
05-20-2014, 06:19 AM
Those were some interesting articles JAC! It makes perfect sense (although I have to agree with some commentators that calling it a "second brain" seems misleading).
You are 100% correct on your terminology! It is very misleading. What they should be saying is that the stomach is a 'second mind'
justanothercamgirl
05-20-2014, 06:24 AM
I also don't think any of us on here are crazy, even joking I find that annoying.
I am 100% crazy. I have no problem with it.
According to the dictionary. Crazy can also be used in the context of, "extremely enthusiastic.'
Such as, "I am crazy about having conversations with Jane Burgess. She is so much fun."
Plus there is that whole thing where I am actually am legally insane. I guess that is why the terminology doesn't bug me much. (*shrugs*)
My brain chemistry is truly an cruel mistress to me.
SweetJulia
05-20-2014, 07:17 AM
So, one week-officially-back on an antidepressant. I feel a lot better but am sure many of you are aware of the ummmm lack of sensation down there it causes. It's actually gonna be good for camming cuz I can just pound away, but I'm looking for a solution for when I have actual sex I want to enjoy. Tried Yohimbe before, but the anxiety made it not worth it. Anyone got any suggestions?
Oh, and so I don't sound like a depressed, sex crazed monster, here's a picture of my "curvier, larger boned kitty" :)
Magical_Hoohah
05-20-2014, 01:02 PM
^^ I don't have the same issue with my antidepressant, but I have some herbs that I like for general horniness and such.
You can buy straight maca powder, and based on the medical studies I've read, it works best if you take 3 grams (about 1 tsp) per day regularly. I like it mixed in hot chocolate, which gives it a more spicy flavor, but there's a ton of possibilities for taking it. Maca is sort of similar to a potato or turnip, so it's not like you can take too much of it. I bought mine from Mountain Rose Herbs, and it's a good idea to find a supplier that harvests responsibly, because maca is very popular in sexual enhancement supplements, so some suppliers are over-harvesting. I find that it does give a subtle energy boost and horniness boost if taken regularly.
I also bought some muira puama and catuaba, which work well together. They both look like little wood chips (because they are). You can mix them together and make tea, which is probably the easiest way to use them. Just be sure to steep them for a while (20 minutes or so). They shouldn't really be used on a daily basis like the maca, so that's a good option for the days when you want to boost your non-work sex life. Again, these are plants that are used heavily in sexual supplements, and responsible harvesting should probably be a consideration when you pick a supplier. I think these two together work more towards increased genital blood flow, because they usually cause a pretty strong increase in genital arousal for me, rather than just general horniness (might take few hours to set in, though, and ymmv).
JaneBurgess
05-20-2014, 01:42 PM
I have anxiety /panic attacks so I don't feel crazy, just off sometimes. The psych said I might have a mood disorder but he thinks anyone that shows emotion has a damn mood disorder. On second though I might be a bit crazy, but not killer crazy. :)
I am 100% crazy. I have no problem with it.
According to the dictionary. Crazy can also be used in the context of, "extremely enthusiastic.'
Such as, "I am crazy about having conversations with Jane Burgess. She is so much fun."
Plus there is that whole thing where I am actually am legally insane. I guess that is why the terminology doesn't bug me much. (*shrugs*)
My brain chemistry is truly an cruel mistress to me.
justanothercamgirl
05-22-2014, 04:28 AM
Ugh, I am bloated all to hell and just feel way to sick to cam today. From the moment I opened my eyes, it was....
http://media.giphy.com/media/LRVIib7uXMVe8/giphy.gif
I am so frustrated with myself too. I've been so good being consistent on MFC, so much for consistency.