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loveshooks
10-16-2014, 01:04 AM
I love the customizable page! The process was pretty simple. It did take a while to write a description for my page, but that's pretty normal. :)
yeah, I completely understand that writing unique profile text takes a bit of extra time and I really appreciate those of y'all who have chosen to join and do it anyways. The main reason I ask for that so that in the event someone tries to scrape the site for their own purposes I can protect it properly. Hell, one scam indy site that scraped a legit site even joined sw recently to promote it. The scammer didn't consider that she'd scraped a bunch of sw'ers profiles in the process :D I know it's more labor-intensive than doing a copy/paste from one's profiles located elsewhere and I appreciate those of you who've taken the time to join anyways.
regarding the customizations, thanks for reminding me to post my latest site update here. Below is a copy of the email I sent out to all the chicas (and guys) currently listed:
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
I have quite a few things planned for LiveCamModelShows.com over the coming weeks but before (and while) I work on new stuff I want to fix a few things with which I'm not 100% happy. There are a few but a big one aesthetically for me is the model profile pages. There were designed as a work around to some custom shortcode I had installed, and I finally figured out a way to easily work around the limitations of the old template.
The new template for chicas listed in the main directory is located here: and it allows for far more customization than the original design. The background, the page background(s) and the text colors can all be your color scheme of choice.
If you'd like an updated profile shoot me an email at
[email protected] with the following:
1) updated gallery pics if desired
2) a new main profile pic if desired
3) any updates to your profile text or pricing menu
4) a pricing menu for custom clips and pic sets, kik, etc, if desired
5) 1-2 profile page colors (html codes ONLY, or a snip of the color in a pic)
6) 1-2 text colors (same as above)
7) a background color (same as above) or image/pattern to which you hold copyright. I cannot use patterns or images for backgrounds that belong to someone other than yourself.
--please bear in mind that the site menu colors will stay the same so if your desired colors clash with purple then, well, clash they will unfortunately--
Regarding a pricing menu for kik, snapchat, I'll prob be making a separate category for that so if it's something you offer send along the details regarding your pricing.
I'll still be doing text updates to profile text and rates on the same day requested, only changes involved with updating the template with customized design will take additional time.
My priorities are working on speeding up the site (I'm probably going to switch hosts tbh, I've tried pretty much everything else at this point) and continuing to build traffic. I'm still trying to become a payoneer partner but it's become an exercise in futility. For those of you in the US, check payout does arrive like clockwork with a 5 day delivery so if that's an option you're interested in, it's quick, it's reliable and it's free. While I'm pretty cool with payoneer direct deposit I abhor the fees associated with the debit card and I do apologize that private load is all I can do at this point.
In the medium term I'll be implementing the phone sex portion by the end of the fall and will update y'all about that beforehand.
__________________________________________________ _______________________________________________
I've been updating profiles only a few at a time thus far, as even though it's fun I gotta continue that pace as I'm doing it in my spare time. Lots of chicas have ended up emailing me requesting the updated template with my purplishious color scheme, so I've decided to switch the rest of the profiles over just for site continuity. I figure it will probably take about 3 weeks to customize and switch over them all.
Seriously y'all, I grin with glee every time I check in on the site and go over bookings and see how's it's flourishing. Because of everyone who chose to join a site that was absolutely nothing but an idea when it first launched.. Thank you, y'all really do have no idea how much.
hope everyone on sw has a wicked $$$$$ day :goodvibes
loveshooks
10-17-2014, 12:32 PM
I have another update to announce that I'm really excited about :)
LCMS is now cross-referencing with Model Centro to provide payment processing for single, non-recurring transactions for MC models. This means that if you have a Model Centro membership site but would also like to accept additional payments from your customers you can create a profile on LiveCamModelShows.com. If you're an LCMS chica who decides to join Model Centro you can promote your membership site on your LCMS profile.
The two options are:
1) to be listed in the main camgirl directory
2) to have a completely unbranded profile payment page unlinked form any where on the site, separate from the camgirl directory.
With each option your profile page can be completely customized to match the design of your Model Centro membership site.
You can use your LiveCamModelShows payment page to sell skype shows, text chat, picture sets, custom content, tangible goods, anything legal. You can link to your LCMS profile from your Model Centro membership site, allowing you to earn extra income from fans and clients by upselling those who have already joined your membership site. You can also promote your membership site on your LiveCamModelShows profile page.
I'm excited to be working with Model Centro to provide single/non-recurring payment processing to Model Centro models, as I think MC offers a fantastic product to women seeking a monthly membership site. LCMS is a great compliment to Model Centro, as you can now accept both monthly membership payments and single-item payments from customers all at the leading payout percentages available in the industry.
Regarding linking to personal sites in general, I'm still in the process of deciding how to go about doing so. As with any project the site has been evolving since it's creation and I like to take the time to fair decisions without jumping into new policies too hastily. I will post about that the moment I decide though, and will send an email out to the chicas on the site as well as I know many of you would like to post links to your personal websites on your LCMS profiles.
Thanks for reading, I hope everyone is having a wicked day :goodvibes
laurielegs
10-17-2014, 12:37 PM
Wow, I'm going to sign up. Thanks so much for the detailed post!
I've had a modelcentro site forever but haven't completed it. This is definitely going to motivate me to move along and get it done.
Should have done it sooner but have had a lot on my plate. Best setup ever! I'm getting this done Monday for sure.
NatalieCentro
10-24-2014, 10:30 AM
Very happy to be in cooperation! Always on the look to make sure models make the most profit!
DiamondCupcakes
10-28-2014, 07:10 PM
LOVE LOVE LOVE loveshooks' payment processor! I was struggling to find something that really worked for me. I had some issues in the past with Payoneer (still waiting for them to email me back) and was not happy with the cut other sites were taking. On top of that, some sites would take much or too long to payout. Another issue I would have is that some payment processor would not accept all cards. A lot of my custies are non US based and would have issues using paying. After emailing back and forth with loveshooks, I was ready to try out her service. She created a page that fits perfectly with my site and my custies love the ease of using it. I get my checks on time each week and loveshooks has been very helpful following up with me to make sure everything has been going smoothly. I am very impressed and love having this as an option now to accept payments =)
loveshooks
10-29-2014, 01:11 AM
thank you for taking the time to write that DC. I love what you wrote because in starting this site I really wanted it to be more than just another indy site, I wanted to create an option that works for cam chicas on all levels; customization, payout percentages and ease of usage by clients. I want more than that actually, I want to be the best option out there for chicas who don't wish to handle everything (promotion and processing) solely from their own websites. As the site grows I'm over-the-top delighted that my goal is becoming a reality.
It means a lot to me that the site has been such a positive experience for you and what you wrote kinda made my day. thank you chica.
wishing everyone a wicked $$$$ night :goodvibes
xxtinamariexx
10-29-2014, 10:32 AM
Is there a way that we can just give the guys a link to the payment page, when I do, it says :
Invalid account or site tag
Account ID or Site-Tag specified by Ecom_Ezic_AccountAndSitetag parameter does not exist, and you have no default site.
The format for this parameter is -
<12 digit account number> <colon> <site tag>
Please notify the webmaster for the site that linked you here.
some guys can't access the porn pages but they can get to the payment page. not sure if there is something wrong or not, but i get the same thing
loveshooks
10-29-2014, 11:11 AM
^^^^those are actually two separate issues so I'll address each separately:
1) guys being blocked from accessing LCMS. I recently (a couple of days ago) reworked my IP blocking set up so far fewer guys should have issues accessing the site
2) unfortunately the way my merchant account is set up the payment pages upon which the guys input their cc details can only be accessed from the LCMS domain itself. I hate that about my set-up, I really wish chicas could just send a payment link to a guy or install a payment button directly on their own blog or website but I'm pretty constrained by the banks rules in that regard. As the buttons are javascript rather than static html, trying to access the URL without going through the profile page removes the site tag and creates the error you listed above.
I wish there was a way around that but it basically comes down to my merchant account rules. They have a HUGE issue with my buttons being used anywhere other than on domains I actually own and I suspect the set-up of the buttons was designed with the intention of preventing the payment links from being used anywhere other than on my bank-authorized domains. I'm pretty unhappy with my payment gateway for a number of reasons so at some point (probably when my merchant year runs out and I need to pay new VISA/MC fees anyways) I'll switch to a new provider that's a bit less...rigid/paranoid. For now though I'm stuck with the current set-up, which means guys will have to visit your profile page in order to make a purchase. I am sorry about that.
ivybunny
11-04-2014, 01:40 AM
Hi LH,
I was going to DM you but I thought just in case anyone else was having this issue, it might be nice to have this up on the thread:
So I absolutely can't use my VPN (Hotspot Shield) when browsing LCGS. I get a forbidden error every time and that's kind of a deal breaker for me because of the IP weakness of Skype/needing to be online on LCMS.
Also, I've had it up on one of my tabs for a couple of weeks and it seems to be updating a lot, which means that not all the links are working for a lot of the time.
And side question: Will the payment dropmenu ever be able to be in minute increments rather than by $ amounts? I realize that it might be a bit more tricky doing this per model's site, but I'm pretty sure - in fact, I'm positive - that there's a way that you'd be able to do this in a less than *too* headachy way. Plus, I feel like seeing the bulk lump sum amount might be kind of jarring to clients who are used to seeing a $/min amount.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a fantastic idea and I'm GOING to sign up. Thanks LH<3
Comtesse
11-05-2014, 01:57 PM
sound interesting and promising. I think i'll sign up. Only camgirl from quebec, canada, as far as i know :)
thatgingercamgirl
11-30-2014, 06:12 PM
I have been camming for a little over two years for a big box site, and am definitely interested in indy camming, but I'm curious about the safety of it. The possibility of someone finding me via my ip address is a worrying one. How do indy camgirls stay safe? I've been doing some research on SW, but I'm hoping to be able to find a VPN that doesn't slow down my internet speed....and it looks like a lot of the recommended ones do.
loveshooks
12-02-2014, 09:56 AM
apologies for the late reply!
if you're concerned about clients and potential clients discovering your location you can use a VPN like hotspot shield-I've never used it but from reading around here some chicas seem to report faster internet speeds than they'd have otherwise - though I suppose it's a matter of what your original baseline is
the two main ways that clients can discover your IP and location are via skype communications and through yahoo messenger file transfer (if you send or receive a file via messenger your IP can be tracked). Another method is via email header tracing-something to keep in mind when replying to emails from clients.
if your original internet speed is faster than a VPN you could always switch back and forth, using the VPN only when you need to and sticking with your own IP the rest of the time.
I'm not all the experienced with VPNs though, maybe check out this thread: to see if you find it helpful?
Magical_Hoohah
12-02-2014, 11:18 AM
^^ LH, do you choose not use a VPN because you aren't worried about people knowing your location? For someone to stalk you, they'd have to make quite a trek, so I understand that you might not be all that concerned about having your location revealed.
If one doesn't use a VPN, can they only find out your city, or is there more information they could get or stuff they could do via Skype or an email header?
loveshooks
12-02-2014, 01:21 PM
back when I lived in Toronto I couldn't have cared less-it's such a big city. now I don't care because even though I live in a smaller locale I use mobile wifis from 3 different islands, so my IP/location changes constantly anyways.
with IP tracking you're right, all dudes can get is the city (which can actually be different than one's actual city because our IPs are actually the IPs of the internet provider (ISP). I think it's a bigger concern for chicas who live in uber-small towns where they're one of 500 people, and even then the issue is more preventing gossip than it is being protected from clients.
Really though the best way to maintain privacy is to pay attention to info we share with clients. Over time our guys (especially long time regs) pick up a ton of information about us, just in the course of conversation. I'm not scared of my clients and I trust quite a few of them but there are things about me that they do not need to know, so that stays off-limits. I had a bad scare once, one of my most adored, long-term regs got himself into a psychological spiral down and it culminated with him talking about taking his gun to work and then coming up across the border to see me. This was shortly after a workplace shooting in his town so I knew what he meant.
I was really afraid, running over every convo I'd ever had with him trying to search for little snippets of private info I may have accidentally let slip. I even called the border patrol to have his name and car description on record there. He probably knew my IP but that didn't bother me, good luck trying to search through a city to find me.
In terms of tangible ways to keep safe and maintain privacy, I wrote a post here: that goes into issues like geo-tagging on photos (now THAT ish is scary) and preventing malware (there are a few losers on yahoo who troll around trying to spread malware/keyloggers, their MO is trying to send an infected file via yahoo messenger under the guise of it describing what sort of show he wants.)
as you wrote I'm in a somewhat unique situation but either way, to me IP isn't the same sort of privacy issue as are the items above.
thatgingercamgirl
12-02-2014, 02:59 PM
Thank you for all the information Loveshooks!
ivybunny
12-03-2014, 05:33 PM
Holy bajeezus. I thought I scoured all the computer security threads there were and I rarely find non-camming/beauty posts on SW that tell me something I haven't come across at one point or another but that post on privacy was super effing helpful. I know it might seem like "duh" material to the veterans, but this newb (who does more than her share of research) found it invaluable. I just thought I'd share the love since I know it's always nice to know which blog/forum/etc. posts are helpful to others.
Thanks lovehooks. SW is made incalculably better by your participation/moderating.<3 /loverant
melanielive
12-04-2014, 07:39 PM
I gotta sign up on your site loveshooks!! I m a total slacker! lol
I ve been busy going back to school so less time to be on cam and I forgot to sign up, I was going to months ago...
I m gonna try to do that soon so hopefully I can have some extra income...
How s the traffic so far?? I love the idea of a cam site created and administered by another cam girl, that was my dream yrs ago but I gave up quickly and decided to keep on working as a cam girl but without owning a site...
Anyways, keep up the great work!!
SweetJulia
12-05-2014, 11:34 AM
I'm gonna sound like a moron, but can someone please post a direct link to the sign up page? I'm going on 1-very little sleep and 2-pain meds lol.
thatgingercamgirl
12-05-2014, 12:38 PM
I'm gonna sound like a moron, but can someone please post a direct link to the sign up page? I'm going on 1-very little sleep and 2-pain meds lol.
She doesn't have a sign up page. but this page http://www.livecammodelshows.com/independent-cam-model-contract/ gives you her webmaster email and the info she needs from you to sign you up :)
ivybunny
12-15-2014, 11:27 AM
Hey, just so other chicas know and for some validation, LH, I've been emailing with my favorite and by far best spending custie while on hiatus, directing him to LCMS and he said, "Your new site strikes Me as much more professional than where I found you; I am impressed." As far as I can tell, he found me on one of SM's affiliate sites, I believe weare18. So kudos, lovehooks, and girlies, sign up.<3
loveshooks
12-17-2014, 01:11 PM
^^^how am I just seeing this now?!
that is so awesome to hear, and I'm delighted that the site is working out for you. thank you for taking the time to write about your experience of LCMS, it really means a lot
She doesn't have a sign up page. but this page gives you her webmaster email and the info she needs from you to sign you up :)
^^thanks for posting this. the main reason why I chose not to have a template sign-up page is that I don't want to store uber-private info like ID scans on my site. beyond that, since there's so many options in terms of profile customizations a sign-up page could be kinda confusing/difficult to use. I prefer email since that way each chica can go into as much detail as she desires regarding how she wants her profile organized.
hope everyone is having a wicked day :goodvibes
anoncamgirl
12-18-2014, 09:05 AM
I just wanted to say that I really liked the sign up process. I thought it was a lot more personal than having a form to fill out Just my two cents.
Lovehooks, do I remember a post a while back saying that video previews bring in more clients? In your opinion, what should the video preview have in it?
Thanks!
loveshooks
12-18-2014, 06:47 PM
I just wanted to say that I really liked the sign up process. I thought it was a lot more personal than having a form to fill out Just my two cents.
^^^thank you for that. in my vision for this site I wanted to create a space for personal interaction that adjusts to meet the needs/desires of every chica who joins, so I'm delighted that you have found it so. I was thinking about this recently, in relation to the 'culture of cam sites' thread, wondering if LCMS was meeting my vision for the site in that regard. If it does then I feel like I've accomplished something.
Lovehooks, do I remember a post a while back saying that video previews bring in more clients? In your opinion, what should the video preview have in it?
The video preview page gets a lot of site traffic, and based on my obsessive analysis of my live traffic stats the guys who visit that page tend to end up spending. In terms of content of a preview I guess it's a matter of how you'd like to come across. I've done a 'fully clothed talking to the cam about my shows' preview, a silent 'watch me writhe around so you can check out my cam quality and what I look like' video and (my most recent) a preview that's a bunch of splices from my previously recorded sex and fetish clips. Hard to say which one was most effective, as when I used the first two I didn't know how to properly analyze my live stats, but my first (the straight talking clip) was my fav and new clients would often mention in when booking a first show with me. The only reason I don't use it now is because I'm way browner and thinner than I was when I recorded it, so it doesn't give guys an accurate representation of what I look like now. My next preview will prob be another talking clip, maybe interspersed with a few body shots for balance. I tend to attract cerebral dudes who like that sort of thing though, I think previews vids need to be created with one's audience in mind. Each of us have clients who are drawn to us due to our unique personas, so it makes sense that the preview should match that.
a somewhat nebulous answer, I know. I just don't think there's any 'correct' answer. If you focus on whatever aspects your best, most lucrative clients enjoy about you and create a preview that matches that I don't think you can go wrong.
StacySins
01-05-2015, 11:23 AM
Sent away my registration, not sure if its right or not but oh well :lol:
StacySins
01-06-2015, 08:27 AM
Guys, how do you advertise your indy shows?
LaylaLovely
01-06-2015, 08:52 AM
Twitter^^
StacySins
01-06-2015, 10:12 AM
I do twitter, will try a bit harder on there!
loveshooks
02-10-2015, 07:21 PM
hey all,
so I have a few updates to write about, I meant to do this sooner but I haven't had time
New Payout Options
I'm in the process of setting up a new payroll system, it should be in place by payout date of Feb 15th but that remains to be seen at this point because there have been a few snafus in figuring out how to get the $$$$$ into my account to fund payouts. Through the new system I'll be able to offer ACH to US-based listees (at a cost of $4) and EFT to CA/UK/EU-based listees (at a cost of $3-$5 depending on the nation).
Resources
Based on a few of the posts above I decided to create a small, private info group on the site. It's not a forum (why reinvent the wheel) even though it's organized like one, and it's a small, private place to share info and resources and discuss issues pertaining to indy camming (rates, advertising, SEO, etc). No one can see it unless they're logged in, so no clients of the site will be able to read it. If you're on LCMS and would like to read or participate please shoot me an email or PM with your desired user name and I'll send you the login details.
Unbranded Pages
Those aren't new but they are becoming increasingly popular so I figured they merited another mention. The unbranded pages are for use with one's own clients, and are customized to the design of the chica's website or blog. To get a sense of the options available on the unbranded pages you can check out a list . With unbranded pages I also design the payment page (where guys input their cc details) to match, so it's pretty seamless and a way to keep each chica's own traffic from being sent to the main directory for payment. Quite a few chicas are using one of each (a directory profile and an unbranded page) so really it's about using whichever option(s) fit each individual.
Reviews
A couple of my clients have suggested adding a review section to the site, and after thinking about it a little I think it's a good idea. I won't be using a 'star' system though, I find those insulting personally, and on sites where I've seen them used some guys leave a wicked review and then forget about the numerical star rating, meaning a chica's review looks less stellar than it actually is.
I've created a page for guys to write reviews, all of which will be moderated and will be matched by email address to ensure the guy actually booked a show, but I don't really want to add a blank reviews page to the site. I could write some fake ones I suppose but I don't think that ethically that's ok, so I need some legit ones. For anyone willing to ask a client (it could be a reg or past client, he doesn't need to book a new show) to leave a review I'll post you at the top of the site for a couple of weeks as a gesture of thanks. For anyone who'd like to participate, the page where guys can leave a review is
That's all for now I think. LCMS is continuing to grow and I've contacted my bank to raise my monthly payment limit (for the second time woot woot) because while December was awesome January kinda exploded upward. February is on track to beat that so I'm pretty delighted. This growth is due to all of you who use and support LCMS, so thank you. Beyond it being so awesome to watch the site grow I really enjoy working with each one of you.
If you have any questions about any of the above please post away or shoot me an email.
Hope everyone is having a wicked night :)
loveshooks
02-26-2015, 10:28 AM
two mini updates
last Sunday was the first payout week with my new payroll system. ACH and EFT are both working flawlessly, and the payments arrive much more quickly than I originally anticipated.
also, in light of the google/blogger smack down on adult, I've started offering multi-page unbranded profiles. this option is for models who don't wish to host their own website or blog, but would like an unbranded, customized set of pages to use as a site (an 'about me' page, 'contact', 'gallery pics', blog, etc along with the payment page).
I've only done one so far, and I'll probably make up a demo over the next couple of days so that individuals who may be interested in that alternative can get a better sense of what a multi-page profile would look like. I don't expect this to be a huge draw as both tumblr or one's own hosted website are free/low cost viable options, but the LCMS option is there for anyone who wishes to use it.
loveshooks
02-26-2015, 03:26 PM
I threw together a little multi-page demo located here:
most of the menu buttons don't work, as I didn't want to build a whole site. the demo is simply to give chicas a sense of what that option would involve
Vlodina
02-26-2015, 03:54 PM
I've been watching this thread and admiring what you're doing, but this past while I've not been able to multitask with my computer so haven't been doing any indy. My new super duper PC arrives this week though, so I'll be hitting you up soon re a payment page if you'll have me.
Do you pay weekly even to outside the U.S.?
loveshooks
02-26-2015, 04:21 PM
thanks chica, and I'd love to have you on LCMS.
weekly payout is for all listees, no matter the nation. For the UK I have EFT (direct deposit) which costs $5 and arrives in 2-3 days after it's sent. The other options are Paxum ($8.95 charged by Paxum to withdraw funds) and Payoneer private load (3.75% of the amount sent).
Lacy Luck
02-28-2015, 01:05 PM
Since it costs $4 for ACH deposits, is it possible to do monthly payment rather than weekly?
I am loving the set up for non-branded pages. I think this might work great for me since I do so many custom videos. Thanks for your awesome work on this!
Magical_Hoohah
02-28-2015, 01:45 PM
^^ That's a really good question, and I'd like to know, too. I also totally forgot to send my info to switch over to ACH, so I'm glad this thread popped up again to remind me.
Regarding the review page, if guys leave us a review, can the review also appear in a little section somewhere our profile page? I like the idea of a group review page, because guys browsing the reviews might be inclined to check out ladies they hadn't really noticed before. But if I can get my guys to write a review, I'd kind of like it to show up on my profile as well, so guys checking out my profile have easy access to my reviews. Of course, I don't really want an empty review section on my profile either. The more I think about this, the more it seems a bit complicated for you, LH, and maybe others wouldn't like their reviews to appear on their profiles anyway...?
loveshooks
02-28-2015, 09:36 PM
Since it costs $4 for ACH deposits, is it possible to do monthly payment rather than weekly?
I am loving the set up for non-branded pages. I think this might work great for me since I do so many custom videos. Thanks for your awesome work on this!
thanks for the kind words :) sure, if a listee prefers to be paid monthly that's totally fine. I always try to keep costs down as well when receiving payments, and $4 per month in fees is much lower than $16. the other option for US-based listees is online check, which is free. I send out payments on Sundays and checks typically arrive on Thursday. It basically comes down to a matter of what type of arrangement would work best for each listee.
^^ That's a really good question, and I'd like to know, too. I also totally forgot to send my info to switch over to ACH, so I'm glad this thread popped up again to remind me.
Regarding the review page, if guys leave us a review, can the review also appear in a little section somewhere our profile page? I like the idea of a group review page, because guys browsing the reviews might be inclined to check out ladies they hadn't really noticed before. But if I can get my guys to write a review, I'd kind of like it to show up on my profile as well, so guys checking out my profile have easy access to my reviews. Of course, I don't really want an empty review section on my profile either. The more I think about this, the more it seems a bit complicated for you, LH, and maybe others wouldn't like their reviews to appear on their profiles anyway...?
I hadn't even thought of that. Sure, I could easily add client reviews to chica's profile pages, it would take about 2 seconds to copy/paste the code. I'd prefer leave that decision up to each individual listee however, rather than make that the default. I agree empty review sections don't send a great message to prospective clients, so for chicas who'd like a space for reviews on their profile, I'd only add those in once at least review was sent in. It wouldn't be complicated at all though.
thank you again everyone for your interest in and support of LCMS, I really appreciate it. I never imagined I would enjoy running this site as much as I do, and the reason I enjoy it so much is because it gives me an opportunity to work with such amazing individuals. thank you for that :)
hope everyone is having a wicked night :goodvibes
Vlodina
03-01-2015, 03:18 AM
This woman (Jesse!) is bloody fast. I just mentioned theoretically using LCMS soon, and boom, I already have a custom payment page. Wow! Thanks hun, will get back to you later.
MessyChick
03-01-2015, 04:17 AM
i think ill be signing up to this once ive rebranded and got my new custom built laptop :)
melanielive
03-01-2015, 05:24 PM
I work so many sites, etc that I always forget to sign up on your site..... ( bad girl melanie, bad girl!!), I m gonna sign up this week and see how it goes :)
Looks like u put lots of work into it, I hope the site is doing great, u and the girls deserve it! :)
Magical_Hoohah
03-07-2015, 06:57 PM
I was going to ask this privately, but I may not be the only person who doesn't know about this, so... What is an online check? I know that with ACH, you send the money, the banks do their thing, and the money shows up in my account. For practical purposes, is an online check the same process? Or do you somehow email us a check and we have to deposit it? (ETA: I did try to google this, but apparently the internet wants to redirect me to ACH info.)
Also, did the resource forum disappear?
xxtinamariexx
03-07-2015, 08:46 PM
I was going to ask this privately, but I may not be the only person who doesn't know about this, so... What is an online check? I know that with ACH, you send the money, the banks do their thing, and the money shows up in my account. For practical purposes, is an online check the same process? Or do you somehow email us a check and we have to deposit it? (ETA: I did try to google this, but apparently the internet wants to redirect me to ACH info.)
Also, did the resource forum disappear?
I get my checks via the mail, and I would think that online check is when she pays you through her bank online. (as you would do when you pay a bill online through your checking account online) my checks don't come in a envelope with a check in it, its a perforated thing.. if that makes sense.
loveshooks
03-07-2015, 09:43 PM
I was going to ask this privately, but I may not be the only person who doesn't know about this, so... What is an online check? I know that with ACH, you send the money, the banks do their thing, and the money shows up in my account. For practical purposes, is an online check the same process? Or do you somehow email us a check and we have to deposit it? (ETA: I did try to google this, but apparently the internet wants to redirect me to ACH info.)
Also, did the resource forum disappear?
I get my checks via the mail, and I would think that online check is when she pays you through her bank online. (as you would do when you pay a bill online through your checking account online) my checks don't come in a envelope with a check in it, its a perforated thing.. if that makes sense.
^^^thanks for clarifying :)
yeah, by online check I mean checks sent out online, straight from my bank. @MH you know my mail issues down here better than anyone (to everyone else I'm deadly serious that the average mail delivery time down here is 3 months), so I always specify that the checks are being sent out directly from a bank within North America to indicate that delivery will be prompt and efficient.
regarding the forum, I was actually coming here to post about that and a few other things, so thanks for providing an intro. the site is currently undergoing some massive restructuring to speed up the site, speed up the dynamic 'online models' feature and install a back end so chicas can easily publish their own clips. As such the forum will be up and down, and the online models section won't working 24/7 over the next couple of days. Basically the site will be wonky as fuck for the next few days, but I don't anticipate that profile pages, payment buttons will be at all affected.
To address the temporary 'online models' feature issue, I've put up some static thumbs on the home page so the site won't look barren when the feature isn't working, so if you expect to be online in the next couple of days and your static thumbnail pic isn't already up, please let me know and I'll add you promptly.
Regarding the forum, I may end up moving that to a different domain (I'm thinking my info blog) to help with the site speed issue. If I end up moving it over I'll republish all the content from each author so it will be exactly the same as it was before, just hosted on a new domain. Either way it will still be completely private.
Another update, I'm currently working on providing new payment options to site clients. These options will be of particular interest to those who tend to attract Euro clients, as Visa/MC are not the most popular payment options in quite a few nations.
On the above I'm seeking some feedback though, as at least one of the new options will come at a cost of 14%. Factoring in advertisement and site maintenance that means I won't be able to offer 85% on those options without operating at a loss, so I've come up with a few ideas:
1) the no-brainer, make participation in the secondary payment options an opt-in system, so listees with no desire to participate don't feel forced to do so.
and
2) either charge a premium to site clients who use those payment options in order to be able to offer 85% payout or
3) pay out 80-85% on cc payments and 80% on secondary payment system sales. Listees could always charge higher rates for clients who choose to use the secondary options, to discourage those who have credit cards from using the 80% option
I'd love some feedback on the above from anyone who has any thoughts.
I also wanted to post about something a little more nebulous. LCMS is growing rapidly, I can barely keep up with the new listees sending in applications and payouts are expanding exponentially. This site is already more successful than I ever dared to dream it would be, and in all honesty most of the most successful aspects of the site only exist because of listee feedback. If anyone ever has any ideas about features that would be helpful to you or your business please don't hesitate to contact me, I'm always open to feedback and if a suggestion is possible I'll implement it. Here I just want to insert a huge thanks to everyone who has supported LCMS, to everyone who participates and provides invaluable ideas and feedback that have helped shape LCMS into what it is, and what it's becoming.
Current changes that are on the horizon include:
1) a back end for models to edit their own profiles
2) an admin area where listees can check on their bookings for the week without waiting for the weekly pay stubs/bookings lists (that's a longer term project as my current gateway doesn't have a system for that, as such it will only be available after I switch to a new gateway and there will be a few merchant bank/bureaucratic issues involved in that)
3) phone sex. once I'm finished with the work on the site the phone sex feature will be next on the priority list.
4) inspired by some amazing chicas (Ms Hoohah and Ivy B I'm looking at you, along with every chica on LCMS who isn't afraid to charge higher than average rates and still rakes in the bookings) it's evident that our niche could use an indy-style 'raise the rates' challenge. We're due for it, as MH has pointed out previously average indy rates are actually lower than they were 5 years ago.
I thought a fun way to go about it would be to create an LCMS challenge. For any listee who participates, the payout will be 85% base for the duration of the contest (I'm thinking maybe two or three weeks so that chicas have enough time to gauge how raising their rates impacts their personal bottom line - though I bet they'll be pleasantly surprised) and then at the end giving the participant listee who earns the most over the duration of the contest a cash prize. We could extrapolate that to a general sw raise the rates thing as well, for anyone who is interested in trying out the idea and we could all report back with our results, to hopefully inspire others to try it out.
I'd love some feedback on the above, as this is just an idea I pulled out of my head and I think we could all benefit from collaboration in ironing out the details, assuming anyone is interested
I think that's all for now. I sent out payouts for the week early as tomorrow I'll be celebrating my mom's birthday and I plan to be far away from my comp. I'll still be available via email though so if anyone needs to contact me I'll be checking that throughout the day.
hope everyone is having a wicked weekend :goodvibes
Magical_Hoohah
03-07-2015, 10:52 PM
^^Oooooh. :facepalm: Online check = paper check like I currently get.
I was thinking an online check was some cool new tech thing, like how you can use your smartphone as your boarding pass for an airplane. LOL!
As for the rest of that... holy cow! So much awesome going on! I'm going to have to come back to that later.
laurielegs
03-08-2015, 02:30 PM
That sounds awesome and I am so happy to see prices are coming up.
I noticed that it's harder now to find a particular model by name now that the site has grown so much and there are a lot of models to look through, one thing I would love to see is a little text title with the models screen name underneath each model's photo so it's easier for a customer to find a particular model.
loveshooks
03-08-2015, 05:55 PM
^^^see, this is what I mean. Genius, thank you!
I was actually looking at the 'all models' page last night and thought that it was a bit overwhelming and difficult to navigate, all those pics scrunched together. Adding in names never occurred to me and you're right, sometimes a guy will remember a name but not the page URL or thumbnail pic (that holds true particularly for models who opt not to show their faces in their pics). For those guys the 'all models' page was useless, you could definitely say the same about some of the larger categories.
I added names to the 'all models' page and I'll do the same with each category over the next few days.
thanks again Laurie, brilliant idea.
ivybunny
03-11-2015, 06:49 AM
^^^thanks for clarifying :)
4) inspired by some amazing chicas (Ms Hoohah and Ivy B I'm looking at you, along with every chica on LCMS who isn't afraid to charge higher than average rates and still rakes in the bookings) it's evident that our niche could use an indy-style 'raise the rates' challenge. We're due for it, as MH has pointed out previously average indy rates are actually lower than they were 5 years ago.
First off, ^_^. It wouldn't be possible without your incredible platform, dedication, and amazing work.
Second, what you're saying about the challenge isn't quite clear. 85% is what we get now, isn't it? So the prize would go to a single performer as a lump sum rather than a payout increase? (The wording just seemed like you might have meant a payout % increase.) Other than that, I'd do it regardless!
loveshooks
03-12-2015, 11:09 AM
First off, ^_^. It wouldn't be possible without your incredible platform, dedication, and amazing work.
Second, what you're saying about the challenge isn't quite clear. 85% is what we get now, isn't it? So the prize would go to a single performer as a lump sum rather than a payout increase? (The wording just seemed like you might have meant a payout % increase.) Other than that, I'd do it regardless!
thanks for the awesome words, and wicked that you'd be on board :)
as to how to actually organize it, I haven't gotten that deep into ideas as first I wanted to gauge reaction to the idea, probably the next step would be to post a 'raise the indy rates' challenge thread so that the idea gets more exposure. Then, anyone on (or off) LCMS can participate if they so choose. My hope is that if chicas who participate write back with positive results, we could inspire others to try it as well. For myself anyways the biggest barrier to raising my rates was psychological reticence, once I overcame that I found I was earning at least an extra $100 per day, often more. I wish I'd done it sooner, and I'm looking forward to raising em again to see what happens
As to how to organize rewards, you're right that most chicas currently receive 85% so that in an of itself isn't a huge incentive, the problem is that recently I had to raise my monthly payment limit with my bank again (if one terms y'all making too much $$$$ a problem) :) so my merchant reserve got bumped way up as well. That means I can't offer 90% right now with operating at a major loss, so I'm thinking maybe cash prizes for the top or top three earners for the duration of the challenge? Or run a three week challenge and offer a prize to the top person each week? I could also adjust the home page to give more exposure to challenge participants.
In terms of risk of participating, I keep seeing the same guys booking different chicas -all of whom have different per min rates. to me that underscores the argument that rates are not the primary factor for guys in choosing with whom to cam.
On a related note, LCMS got our first 'request a custom', I'll be publishing those in the home page sidebar as they come in. I haven't crunched the numbers but I'd make an educated guess that the per min average on the site is currently in the $3-$3.50 per min range, and the first request is asking for a show at $4 per minute. To me this just underscores the notion that guys are willing to pay for quality, and if we're anything we're quality :) There are tons of sites that advertise indy chicas using the rubric and discourse of free chat site promotion, I don't want LCMS to cater to that discount crowd.
so yeah, I may just go ahead and start a thread to see who's interested, I'll also send out an email this week so that listees who don't frequent sw can opt in if they choose.
if anyone has any thoughts or ideas to add please feel free. hope everyone is having an amazing day :goodvibes
Vlodina
03-13-2015, 09:24 AM
What will guy's credit card statements say when they pay through LCMS?
loveshooks
03-13-2015, 09:40 AM
It's very discreet, the name on the cc statement is J S Networks.
Payments to listees are equally discreet, those are sent in my own name and there's nothing about them that can be tied to adult work.
Magical_Hoohah
03-13-2015, 10:46 AM
Another update, I'm currently working on providing new payment options to site clients. These options will be of particular interest to those who tend to attract Euro clients, as Visa/MC are not the most popular payment options in quite a few nations.
On the above I'm seeking some feedback though, as at least one of the new options will come at a cost of 14%. Factoring in advertisement and site maintenance that means I won't be able to offer 85% on those options without operating at a loss, so I've come up with a few ideas:
1) the no-brainer, make participation in the secondary payment options an opt-in system, so listees with no desire to participate don't feel forced to do so.
and
2) either charge a premium to site clients who use those payment options in order to be able to offer 85% payout or
3) pay out 80-85% on cc payments and 80% on secondary payment system sales. Listees could always charge higher rates for clients who choose to use the secondary options, to discourage those who have credit cards from using the 80% option
I'd love some feedback on the above from anyone who has any thoughts.
I like option 2 the best, to be honest. I don't really like option 3 for a few reasons:
1) It would make it that much harder for ladies to keep track of their earnings. It's bad enough that a lot of us have to remember which site each show came from, and what percentage we're currently receiving from that site. Having to sort each show based on the payment processor is a lot of stuff to keep track of. I think models would find it pretty hard to have an accurate measure of how they're doing with their goals and so forth.
2) It seems like a huge pain in the ass for you to have to sort out all our payments based on processors.
3) Between the additional difficulties for models and for you, I think there's a higher likelihood of payment errors, and less chance of them being caught. (Not to suggest that you're prone to accounting errors, but you are a human, so stuff can happen.)
4) For models that choose to charge different rates for different processors, their profiles are going to look more cluttered.
5) The same models will have trouble citing their rates to clients, because they'll have to ask a bunch of questions about how he's going to pay before they can even tell him the cost of a show.
6) Customers will be confused by models' different rates, or they'll pretend to be confused and just pay the lesser amount, or they'll whine and complain. They might also pull a bait and switch, getting the rate from the model by saying that they're paying with a Visa, and then actually paying with the more expensive method. Upon seeing the confirmation email, the model would have a lot of grief as she tries to make him pay the difference, while he whines about rip-offs.
I think with option 2, you can just stick a note on the payment form, like "Payment Options: Visa, Mastercard, Discover, [whatever]* *additional processing fees apply." People are totally used to seeing additional charges at that part of the payment process anyway. If you were buying something online, that would be the part where they tell you about the shipping costs and the taxes. If you were buying pizza online, they would also mention the delivery fee and the tip for the driver. Frankly, at that point customers should be happy that there's only one additional "processing fee."
Just my :twocents:
hyori
03-13-2015, 10:53 AM
Just wondering, loveshooks, have you thought about Epoch? I know start up costs with them are high I think around $1500 but you would be the first to have them, and my god, I'm sure it would be worth it...you could get all the PP motherfuckers. Then again, I don't really know much about payment processors and merchant accounts. I'm pretty sure you probably already looked into Epoch and there were very valid reasons why you didn't sign up with them.