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loveshooks
11-13-2015, 01:36 AM
Paxum just sent me an email telling me to update my ID because it's set to expire soon. I know it's not for 2257 but I thought it was a bit excessive. I'm not sure if I'm going to do it though because I don't know if it's even worth keeping my Paxum account.

Yeah, Paxum is a...special case. Their KYC (know your customer) rules are pretty excessive, them asking for a signature written in the blood of a first born son wouldn't be surprising. Either way like you wrote we're talking about 2 sets of laws. 2257 pertains to adult content, KYC is for services involving the transfer of money.

But yeah, a special case by any standard

SimoneGray
11-13-2015, 02:32 AM
I have to say I have a love/hate relationship with Paxum...their fees are damn cheap but their support is rubbish. Payoneer on the other hand is just excessive with fees. Is Paxum an option for LCMS btw?

Tsani
11-13-2015, 02:27 PM
It used to be in the beginning but I don't know if it still is.

loveshooks
11-13-2015, 06:51 PM
I used to offer Paxum but only 4 people wanted it. Two ended up using direct deposit or online check instead as both are cheaper and faster and the other two couldn't manage to get verified with Paxum due to some really onerous rules for non-Western, non-anglo nations so I pay them via Payoneer or EFT/direct deposit. I also offer a split Payoneer or EFT/direct deposit system, depending on whichever method is cheaper on any given week.

I adore Ruth (a Paxum rep who isn't paid enough no matter what she earns) but that's about it. I doubt I'll be reintroducing Paxum down the road.

@Simone, I started using a backup service a couple months ago that covers most of the few nations my primary payroll doesn't cover, yours is one of them :)

I'll shoot you the details tonight

heyho
11-28-2015, 11:12 PM
Hi! I'm not camming yet but will be starting full-time soon and after tonnes of research I think I'd like to make LCMS my starting point/home base. I'm in NZ, and while I am an ex-stripper, I'm totally new to web business so forgive my noob questions.

1) What method would you recommend I use to get paid out? I hear Payoneer nickles-and-dimes us to death, and earlier upthread you mentioned hating Payoneer. Is direct deposit/international wire transfer payment available for NZ (and at what cost)?

2) How do chargebacks work? Can a custie just pay for a Skype show or for texts and afterwards do a chargeback? How do I prove fraud/that the show did happen?

3) On LCMS it says we can sell videos through the site, but I don't see any listings/category for clips for sale. How does that work?

4) Am I allowed to have a wishlist on the site? I.e. custie sends me funds through LCMS so that I can independently purchase toys and stuff without compromising my delivery address.

5) I don't suppose I can do paid texts/phone sex? Assuming a lot of custies will probably not be in NZ, the international texting/calling rate would be stupidly high. Or is there some sort of web-based app that you use?

Sorry if you've already answered this somewhere upthread and I missed it! Just thought I should come out and ask. Thanks for bearing with me, LCMS and all its models looks incredibly professional and top-quality, I can't wait to have all my camming bits and bobs set up so i can send my application through.

heyho
11-30-2015, 07:19 PM
*bump* ;D

Magical_Hoohah
11-30-2015, 07:40 PM
@heyho I don't know most of the things you're asking about, but as far as chargebacks, technically you're right, but it's not as likely as it sounds. I know it seems like people would do that shit all the time, and on some sites, it can be pretty common, but keep in mind that doing that is considered credit card fraud on their end. Most decent guys who are honestly looking for a wank do not want to get in trouble with their credit card company. Secondly, the indy cam world is pretty small, so if a guy does that, he ends up on the indy shit list pretty quickly.

As far as preventing it, loveshooks has some good guidelines for what kind of things are suspicious. I don't think it's smart to share them out in public, of course. But if you get a payment and something seems off, you can usually stall and have loveshooks check it out. If he gets pushy, won't wait, and you're suspicious, you can always just refuse to go through with it and have LH refund the money. Worst case scenario, he was a legit customer that won't be coming back to see you again.
Additionally, LH has some behind the scenes magics that she uses to keep chargebacks from happening. I don't know exactly what they are, but it includes things like blocking areas with very high credit card fraud rates.

LCMS has only had a small handful of chargebacks ever, and I happen to be one of the people that got one. LH worked with her credit card processor to have it reversed, and was successful. She didn't make me give back the money while things were pending, and all I had to do was give her screen shots from skype showing a few bits of relevant conversation and the timestamps that show that there was a call made and how long it lasted. It was a very painless process for me.

Magical_Hoohah
11-30-2015, 07:54 PM
Also, heyho, since you're brand new to camming, can I suggest that you also join one of the pay-per-minute sites too? LCMS is a fantastic site, but indy can be kind of slow moving at times, especially since your cam persona doesn't have an existing fan base yet. It's good to have something else to fill in the time.

On top of that, a pay-per-minute site can be a good way to expand your repertoire and learn new things. If you've never done a certain fetish before, it can be really nerve wracking to book a 10+ minute show for that fetish. What if you get 45 seconds in and freeze up, or realize that you were confused and don't understand what he wanted at all? Testing things out on a PPM platform can be a bit less stressful because if you're terrible at the fetish (at the beginning - you'll get better!), the guy can leave any time. Indy clients are pretty fetish-centric, so having a practice space can be really helpful. Additionally, on a site with no chargebacks (such as SM), you can have a relatively risk free place to learn what suspicious behavior looks like.

Of course, that's just my two cents, so do what makes you comfortable!

Magical_Hoohah
11-30-2015, 08:10 PM
@LH - This might be a big request, or it might be really easy, I don't know. But is there any way that the category pages could in some fashion indicate which of the models are online?

I ask because the other day, I was approached about a fetish that I don't do. The guy seemed quite nice, so I wanted to refer him to someone else. When I went to the category on LCMS, I realized that the site has grown a lot since the last time I went searching for someone. The category contained a lot of models (they all do now, which is awesome!), and I had no idea who was online at that particular moment. My options seemed to be randomly clicking on models in the category to see which ones were online, or flipping back and forth comparing the category page and the main "models online" page. Both prospects seemed unpleasant, and I assume that a guy in some state of arousal would feel equally daunted.

I think some option include: 1) having the main "models online" page be filter-able based on category; 2) have each category page sort into online and offline; or 3) have a little banner or something on the model icons showing that they are online, so that it's obvious who's available as guys scroll through the category page.

Anyhow, I know that might not be feasible or a high priority at the moment, but I wanted to bring it up. Thanks!

loveshooks
11-30-2015, 10:07 PM
Hi! I'm not camming yet but will be starting full-time soon and after tonnes of research I think I'd like to make LCMS my starting point/home base. I'm in NZ, and while I am an ex-stripper, I'm totally new to web business so forgive my noob questions.

1) What method would you recommend I use to get paid out? I hear Payoneer nickles-and-dimes us to death, and earlier upthread you mentioned hating Payoneer. Is direct deposit/international wire transfer payment available for NZ (and at what cost)?

2) How do chargebacks work? Can a custie just pay for a Skype show or for texts and afterwards do a chargeback? How do I prove fraud/that the show did happen?

3) On LCMS it says we can sell videos through the site, but I don't see any listings/category for clips for sale. How does that work?

4) Am I allowed to have a wishlist on the site? I.e. custie sends me funds through LCMS so that I can independently purchase toys and stuff without compromising my delivery address.

5) I don't suppose I can do paid texts/phone sex? Assuming a lot of custies will probably not be in NZ, the international texting/calling rate would be stupidly high. Or is there some sort of web-based app that you use?

Sorry if you've already answered this somewhere upthread and I missed it! Just thought I should come out and ask. Thanks for bearing with me, LCMS and all its models looks incredibly professional and top-quality, I can't wait to have all my camming bits and bobs set up so i can send my application through.

thanks so much for posting your questions, and for your interest in the site.

cc moves quickly and the past few days I was on a boat trip with really limited wifi so while I've been here sporadically it's been mostly for admin stuff, not actual reading beyond scanning the front page. listee support and payouts are all up to date and have been throughout though

to address your first question:

1) for Oz/NZ direct deposit, no question. The fee is awesomely low, far lower than payoneer (every $500 USD costs $5, really cool rate as it's a percentage of funds sent rather than flat rate)

2) regarding my approach to cb's, I'll start by quoting MH below (gracias chica)


@heyho I don't know most of the things you're asking about, but as far as chargebacks, technically you're right, but it's not as likely as it sounds. I know it seems like people would do that shit all the time, and on some sites, it can be pretty common, but keep in mind that doing that is considered credit card fraud on their end. Most decent guys who are honestly looking for a wank do not want to get in trouble with their credit card company. Secondly, the indy cam world is pretty small, so if a guy does that, he ends up on the indy shit list pretty quickly.

absolutely indy fraud rates are lower. still there, but far lower than other types of sites for a few reasons I'd rather not post publicly


As far as preventing it, loveshooks has some good guidelines for what kind of things are suspicious. I don't think it's smart to share them out in public, of course. But if you get a payment and something seems off, you can usually stall and have loveshooks check it out.

If he gets pushy, won't wait, and you're suspicious, you can always just refuse to go through with it and have LH refund the money. Worst case scenario, he was a legit customer that won't be coming back to see you again.
Additionally, LH has some behind the scenes magics that she uses to keep chargebacks from happening. I don't know exactly what they are, but it includes things like blocking areas with very high credit card fraud rates.

thanks for not posting the deets. but yeah, the best defence against fraud is chicas using our brains to look for red flags that may squeak through a scrub. I offer a full print out on how to avoid cb's that I no longer send out as a default (many new chicas found it overwhelming) but in the welcome email I still outline the main red flags to watch out for.

If it needs stating no one on LCMS will ever be penalized or pressured to perform a show for any reason, if a listee has a concern or question about a booking or client please contact me. if I'm not around (I can't be up 24/7):

a) lie to the dude that you didn't receive the payment email

b) tell him you're having internet issues

c) if something bothers you about him (not neccessarily fraud-related) just block him and let me know

chances are if it's a legit payment and the listee would like to save the sale I can smooth things over to save the client, I have no problem apologizing for imaginary errors if it saves a client for a chica who did the right thing in asking. if it's just a creepy dude you'd rather not see, refunds are NEVER an issue, no explanation neccessary.

even if the guy is pissed in case A or B and wants a refund, just let me know what happened (please, ALWAYS contact me immediately if you refuse or delay a show) and I'll take care of it



LCMS has only had a small handful of chargebacks ever, and I happen to be one of the people that got one. LH worked with her credit card processor to have it reversed, and was successful. She didn't make me give back the money while things were pending, and all I had to do was give her screen shots from skype showing a few bits of relevant conversation and the timestamps that show that there was a call made and how long it lasted. It was a very painless process for me.

yeah, our cb rate is crazy low but that has more to do with y'all than any 'magic' on my end. for sure I've learned some scrubbing strategies throughout the years (that running LCMS forced me to hone and the learning curve was steep) that help prevent fraud but manual scrubbing with the mass between our ears takes care of legit fraud. When it comes to friendly fraud I compile a meticulous defence and usually win with Visa/MC.

Even then, as you know, I don't win cb's alone.

and seriously, thanks for posting your exerience of that. so delighted by the outcome, fuck yeah to beating the asshole :goodvibes

Back to;

3) Clips are currently disabled on LCMS, the reason why is that the last round of backend work ended being far more expensive and time-consuming than i anticipated originally. We (my awesome- endless admiration for the dude) coder and I have a great plan but we both needed a breather after a rough summer for each of us. I anticipate clips are two months out at this point

4) I don't post external links on directory pages. Not trying to be controlling, the reason why is that paying traffic is both exensive and labor-intensive. Speaking honestly i can't afford the leaks. On unbranded pages any and all links (website, wishlist, clip sites, membership site, etc) are cool though

5) Through LCMS phone service I'm not sure what is any int'l fee is charged. Toll-free numbers are used so I'm assuming no extra fees are involved but I'll check and post back here with the results. As far as texting, I assume Kik and Snapchat are free no matter where each party is located, and the same is definitely true for Skype.

LCMS doesn't have any functionality for processing text chats by the minute, rather offers block payments a la skype shows. Just want to make that clear in case there was any misunderstanding


thanks for your questions HH and huge apologies for the delay. if you have any further questions or would like clarification on any of the above post away


in general, just want to give a head's up that I'm massively behind on new profiles right now, at least a week behind at this point still although I've been striving to catch up. current listee support and promo always come first, so when both are hectic as each has been recently new apps stagnate. I will catch up though, and I'm completing apps as they come in.


@LH - This might be a big request, or it might be really easy, I don't know. But is there any way that the category pages could in some fashion indicate which of the models are online?

brilliant idea, most sites have that and I was scrolling through femdom the other day adding a new listee I was thinking the category had become far too large to be useful. Your solution never occured to me though. I'll speak to my coder about this, adding in a qualifier to 'online' code shouldn't be that difficult and I agree would add much to the functionality for both listees and clients

gracias, genius idea

Magical_Hoohah
11-30-2015, 11:37 PM
brilliant idea, most sites have that and I was scrolling through femdom the other day adding a new listee I was thinking the category had become far too large to be useful. Your solution never occured to me though. I'll speak to my coder about this, adding in a qualifier to 'online' code shouldn't be that difficult and I agree would add much to the functionality for both listees and clients

gracias, genius idea
Oh thank god. I tried to underplay the drama of my reaction, but it was more like falling to my knees, shaking my fists at the sky, and screaming "Nooooo! I shall not sort through all these models!" as a dramatic orchestral score played in the background.

I have many moments in which I am Lazy. As. Fuck.

MistressX
12-05-2015, 01:15 PM
I just found this site via someone who contacted me on skype and said they found me there. Which is weird, because I'm definitely not signed up there. Regardless, it looks like an amazing site and I cant wait to sign up! Going to read through this whole thread later today to get informed and then start the process :)

loveshooks
12-05-2015, 06:57 PM
I just found this site via someone who contacted me on skype and said they found me there. Which is weird, because I'm definitely not signed up there. Regardless, it looks like an amazing site and I cant wait to sign up! Going to read through this whole thread later today to get informed and then start the process :)

ha, that's so awesome :D

around the time I put together the site in spring/summer 2014 I was branching out of predominantly gfe camming to newer D/s dudes so I created an alter-ego Mistress X. my pics, just a different name and persona. dude obviously did some google fu and found you =)

I'd love to work with you if you're interested in the site, and I have no prob changing my alter name if need be. that page gets a decent amount of paying traffic as I used it for strategic advertising as well so I can always create your page on that URL and move mine to a different one.

I'm still massively behind on new apps (dragged my azz through an awful stomach flu this week, thought it was just food poisoning at first but it dragged on for fucking days, been a frustrating week) but I'm going to be burning through the queue sunday after payouts and monday and I'll get caught up. if you have any questions about the site post away or shoot me a PM if you prefer

that's awesome though, thanks for letting me know

MistressX
12-05-2015, 07:01 PM
Oh, well I'm Mistress Xavialune. So, no need to worry there. I just am Mistress X here because its shorter and easier to pronounce LOL... But yeah, that may explain it. He may have thought we were one in the same. What he said was that someone shared My "profile" on facebook and he found me on skype. So I dont really know! These guys lie a lot too. He stopped talking to me not long after so maybe he just lost interest.

loveshooks
12-05-2015, 07:19 PM
^^ugh...boo.

probably just a wanker then, the population of those is higher I find in D/s than with gnd persona. really sorry he was useless, but honestly still cool to know that LCMS is getting out there. I feel kinda calculating when I write this but I don't care as my best dudes helped me shape MX and she works because of that.

if you'd like a redirect you're welcome to it, and based on this convo anyone else who practises femdom exclusively who's interested in offsite advertising hit me up. all offsite promo is opt-in and pretty calculated so we'd def need to speak before proceeding, beyond just the ok to use pics.

MistressX
12-05-2015, 08:47 PM
WHEW! Ok. I read the whole thread. Wow, you've come a long way in such a short time! I love how youve taken all these girls' suggestions and how open to discourse you are as opposed to the awful support I am used to with streamate! That is totally cool.

Ok, I must be super tired now... What is a redirect? I am so sorry it is probably a stupid question lol..

I have been a professional Domme for nearly a decade, and I am only just now getting into "Indy" camming. I never bothered with it because I could not find any site or way of listing that was effective for me. Maybe I just dont know what I'm doing lol! I have tried CMD but I've been there almost 6 months and I've only had one show. So.. I guess that place doesnt really work for me. I am super excited about this though and I have a feeling it's really going to change things for me

Magical_Hoohah
12-17-2015, 12:37 PM
LH, please feel free to disregard my email about this, because it's probably better addressed here.

I may be totally late to the party, but I recently noticed that the phone sex page is up, and looks good! Could you explain the percentages for the phone portion? Like, what percent does Verified Call take, what percent do you take, and what's the ultimate take home percentage for us?
I thought I remembered you saying something about it a while back, but I can't find it.

loveshooks
12-18-2015, 08:49 PM
What is a redirect?

a redirect is basically just directing a click of any initial point of entry to a page (serps/links) to a new page instead of the intended initial target. so instead of 'initial point of entry->webpage1', a redirect would be 'initial point of entry->webpage1->webpage2'.


I have been a professional Domme for nearly a decade, and I am only just now getting into "Indy" camming. I never bothered with it because I could not find any site or way of listing that was effective for me. Maybe I just dont know what I'm doing lol! I have tried CMD but I've been there almost 6 months and I've only had one show. So.. I guess that place doesnt really work for me. I am super excited about this though and I have a feeling it's really going to change things for me

I look forward to working with you, and thanks for the kind words. I'm still massively behind new apps but I'm trying to push through and hope to get back to welcoming peeps in the timely manner deserved


LH, please feel free to disregard my email about this, because it's probably better addressed here.

I may be totally late to the party, but I recently noticed that the phone sex page is up, and looks good! Could you explain the percentages for the phone portion? Like, what percent does Verified Call take, what percent do you take, and what's the ultimate take home percentage for us?
I thought I remembered you saying something about it a while back, but I can't find it.

just saw this thread tonight (hadn't realized there were new 2 new-to-me posts, apologies). was planning on emailing you once I got a chance to contact VC to confirm but this is def a better venue in case anyone has any similar questions about how the platform works

with VC the overall earnings are 85% of one's pay per min rate. so for example a 10 min call at $2 per min would be $20 gross, $17 in pocket (net)

the site does take an additional fee from clients who call, I believe it's 25% but that's what I need to confirm. I think that's pretty reasonable, at the beginning I looked into building my own platform and wowza the costs are fucking high.

The VC structure is similar to C4U in that the client pays the fees attached to the payment, so while those who use the system earn 85% of what they charge, it is absolutely less than 85% of what client actually spends.

It works though because except for a link on the menu there's not really much on the 'main' LCMS site about phone sex. the traffic I drive there isn't very phone centric either. The traffic I drive to the phone sex component is unrelated, more targeted towards dudes who seek phone sex specifically, and my focus has been more high-end fetish rather than 'cheap fone sex 2nite' so the extra fee doesn't seem to be much of an issue for clients.

while it's still pretty new and NOT high traffic it is building nicely and has some good regulars, and because the two segments are pretty isolated in terms of traffic and client desire the difference in fee structure from the client end of things isn't all that relevant. I thought about it a lot back in the beginning during the strategy stages, and I don't think it negatively impacts listees either because the guys on LCMS stay on LCMS, if they want phone they tend to hit up who they desire and just work out what they want on skype.

I guess the best way to explain it, guys who are already on LCMS will prob not be seeking specifically phone sex or a platform, so the extra fees there aren't relevent. the phone guys however don't tend to come from LCMS, and they actually seek a ppm system so the lower overal cost on LCMS isn't relevant and listees get exposed to new clients who are new to LCMS as well



some other stuff I came here to post about (again, apologies for the late replies)

1) category online thumbs are a go and my coder started working on it this week =) brilliant idea MH, for client user experience, for listees in terms of exposure when available and also for me as it will now take far less time to add profiles and change catgeory thumbs when a listee updates a picture. gracias, on all counts for real

2) also going to add a functionality for the on/offline system to be more precise, so that an online 'session' expires after a preset period (say, 12 hours after a listee logs in, haven't decided on duration and would welcome any and all thoughts).

I always forget to log out myself, and as the site grows it doesn't do anyone any good if half the listees on the site are 'online' when a smaller number are actually available/working


3) also wanted to update on deadlines, the site is growing massively in terms of size and income and I'm swamped. currently I have a two week minimum backlog on new apps. I'm trying to work through them, and please do know that I appreciate every single listee who joins and that I know the delays aren't ideal.

I just had to raise my bank reserve again (second month in a row, woot woot) due to growth in volume but as soon as that's paid off I'll be in the position to hire someone to work with me. That will really help things get back to normal in terms of timelines as they used to be for new applicants.

By then I'll def need some help with current listee support as well. I know exactly who I want to hire and if she'll have me I know with 100% certainty that she'll be amazing. Her diligence, ethics and work ethic blow me away on a continual basis so she'd be a real asset to y'all as well as me

that's a bit down the road, we're already started a talk about it though. in the meantime I am trying to catch up. and I will. If any one has any questions about any of the above post away, and I will check back more frequently

have an amzing night y'all :goodvibes

SimoneGray
12-18-2015, 11:22 PM
Been hearing that Payoneer has changed banks or something and that is affecting its ability to take payments, will this affect LCMS at all?

loveshooks
12-19-2015, 08:36 AM
^^^I haven't heard anything about that in regards to Payoneer, do you have a link to anywhere where this has been discussed?

I have read about a similar issue with Paxum (Paxum did def switch banks and as a result some payments were delayed, from what I read seemed to mostly affect affiliates and Epoch merchants) but I believe that has been solved by most services/sites/sponsors (don't know personally, i don't use Paxum)

update: I sent out all payoneers today (Sunday, Dec 20) with no issues so even if payoneer has switched banks there's no impact on LCMS

loveshooks
12-30-2015, 08:20 PM
need to post an update about phone sex, will post in the lcms admin and contact each listee who uses the phone platform personally as well but wanted to post here as well

turns out I've been hugely mistaken regarding how the phone platform collects their fees. It was a bit of a wait for a reply from them due to the holidays but I received a reply that makes me feel pretty embarrased for causing such a massive miscommunication in understanding to lcms listees

I thought that VC collected their 25% platform fee over and above what listees charge, but instead as was explained to me via email:

"Looking at your screenshot, you can see in bold it shows what the talent’s earnings/minute are. She is charging her Customers $2/minute and she is getting $1.20 minute.
Therefore, the 25% VC fee is $0.50. The remainder is $1.50. You are taking 15% of that ($0.30) and she is taking 85% ($1.20).

In the screenshot it clearly states “Customers Pay/Minute” and “Your Earnings/Minute.” Perhaps that portion is unclear to her. Is there a way we can change the language in a way that you feel they will understand it easier?

We can switch the language for you so that she specifies “Your Earnings/Minute” instead of “Customers Pay/Minute”. It’s really all the same thing, though most Talent prefer to specify what the Customer is paying, because that’s how most platforms work."

Again, I completely misunderstood how their system works, even more embarrassed as I've used them for years and should have seen that for myself. When I look over my own personal call records it corresponds to what they say, that the 25% is deducted from the per min rate

For all listees who have been using the system up until Jan 1st I will be happy to compensate out of pocket for the 25% that I thought was paid by the client (I will email each listee affected on Jan 1st) and will update the LCMS contract tonight to reflect the same. For anyone who continues to use the system please factor in the 25% platform fee to your per min rates. I target clients who value quality so I don't anticipate that to be an issue in terms of sales.

In sum, the 25% is taken out of the per min rate so the overall per min rate is lower than 85%. I would love to be able to cover that 25% platform fee but I can't afford it; promo is expensive and the cost per call of me covering the platform fee just isn't sustainable.

If anyone has any questions post away, and thanks to the listee who assisted me in sending the screencaps that helped me figure this out

really sorry, a huge fuck up on my part and I'm happy to compensate anyone affected due to my misunderstanding of how the system works

have a wicked new years y'all and apologies again

Magical_Hoohah
01-01-2016, 02:14 PM
Happy new year, LH and LCMS ladies!


"Looking at your screenshot, you can see in bold it shows what the talent’s earnings/minute are. She is charging her Customers $2/minute and she is getting $1.20 minute.
Therefore, the 25% VC fee is $0.50. The remainder is $1.50. You are taking 15% of that ($0.30) and she is taking 85% ($1.20).
Sorry to be a pita, but their math is wrong. They make is sound as though VC takes 25%, and then you take 15% of the remainder. However, the $0.30 they designate as your cut is 15% of $2.00, not 15% of $1.50 (which would actually be $0.225). In other words, they are taking 25% of the total, and their system is giving you 15% of the total amount charged, not 15% of the remaining 75%.

If you intended to take 15% of the amount remaining after VC takes their 25%, your cut would be 11.25% of the total charged (75% remaining x 0.15 your cut = 11.25%). Since their system is apparently automated to give you your percentage directly from the total, instead of the remainder, you may need to tell them that you want 11.25%, not 15%. That would leave the model with 63.75% of the total, which is pretty comparable to NiteFlirt, for example.

loveshooks
01-06-2016, 11:52 AM
Happy new year, LH and LCMS ladies!

Sorry to be a pita, but their math is wrong. They make is sound as though VC takes 25%, and then you take 15% of the remainder. However, the $0.30 they designate as your cut is 15% of $2.00, not 15% of $1.50 (which would actually be $0.225). In other words, they are taking 25% of the total, and their system is giving you 15% of the total amount charged, not 15% of the remaining 75%.

If you intended to take 15% of the amount remaining after VC takes their 25%, your cut would be 11.25% of the total charged (75% remaining x 0.15 your cut = 11.25%). Since their system is apparently automated to give you your percentage directly from the total, instead of the remainder, you may need to tell them that you want 11.25%, not 15%. That would leave the model with 63.75% of the total, which is pretty comparable to NiteFlirt, for example.

yeah, you're a huge PITA, how dare you do all the hard work of calculating percentages for me :goodvibes

for real chica, thank you so much. As I didn't initially know that the 25% was taken out of the performer cut, I had no idea my 15% was based on listee gross, not net. Didn't even think to consider that when this issue first came to light. Last Sunday night, after reading your last post, I changed all payout percentages for LCMS phone users to 11.25%, and on Monday morning did the math to add 25% and then 3.75% to each listee's earnings (did each calculation seperately as the math is different -lower- if both are added together) up until that point, and contacted everyone affected with the amounts owed. So far only one listee affected has replied back and she's been compensated in full, with everyone else I'll just add the amount to their next 'main' LCMS payment. With 3 listees who only use LCMS for phone sex still waiting back on their preferred method of payment as it will come from me, not VC.

I've amended the LCMS info sheet to reflect the new info and will change the model contract today, or tomorrow at the latest. Didn't make the contract update a priority as anyone who has joined since you pointed out the issue has been given the correct info and percentages in the updated LCMS info sheet.

thanks again MH, had this come to light a year down the road it would have been a nightmare to fix (and very expensive as well), feel thankful to have peeps working with me who highlight errors as they arise. You did me a huge favor. Gracias.

As far as new profiles, I'm finally starting to break through the backlog. It's still over 30 apps right now and on some I'm waiting on complete info (public and private) to publish but until I can hire my trusted friend my guy (husband who has been taught how to send payouts in the event something happens to me) is helping out on new listees who have provided complete info. I still do all the payment buttons/admin aspects (I'm neurotic and prefer to do the most important ish myself) but the pace in welcoming new listees to the site is speeding up due to his help in creating pages.

My main focus right now is 1099's, I've already posted about this is the admin but if you joined LCMS before I became a US corp and you're a US listee please send me your SSN. Need that for 1099's, will email everyone individually who I haven't heard from by Friday. and fuck Canada for forcing me to inc in the US, still pissed about their puritanical banking system.

Gracias MH, sincerely. You made it very easy for me to solve this issue so I can get on to other things, can't thank ya enough for that.

if anyone has any questions about phone, taxes, anything else post here or hit me up

and happy new years y'all, hope 2016 is the best year yet for everyone

loveshooks
01-13-2016, 10:18 PM
two new updates:

as of tonight the online system now times out after 18 hours, which I think will be good for available chicas as well as clients, so peeps aren't wading through a ton of profiles that state online yet really aren't. to set 'online' just log is as normal, and after 18 hours you'll auto-log out. Don't need to keep the admin page open to stay online, feel free to close it once you've set your status

I can set the time out period at will so I'd love some feedback on that from anyone who has an opinion on ideal time

also, the new category online system is complete as of tonight, and I'll be switching over the category pages over the next day or two. prob gonna add some new categories as well, always open to suggestions on that as well

to set your categories, visit 'edit profile' and check whatever boxes are applicable. any time you sign into online you'll appear on all the category pages you've selected

that's all for now, anyone has any questions post away or hit me up

hope everyone is having a wicked night

KittieVenom
01-14-2016, 12:08 AM
So I've been very happy with LCMS so far. I've been trying hard to bring my own traffic but more and more people have been telling me they found my from the site.

I have a question though. A lot of foreign guys that don't speak the best English (or pretend they don't) try to book shows with me. One client I did 2 shows with, and we understood each other perfectly fine despite the fact that he didn't have perfect English. So I asked him if he would like to book again with me after the show was over, and he said yes. After discussing a few options, he asked if we could do it the same time tomorrow, and I agreed. It was a for a lot earlier than I usually get up but I had high hopes for him as he had been such a good client for a first session and even booked another one immediately after so we could keep going. So I get up today, tired as hell and get all ready making sure to put a lot of concealer on the bags under my eyes. So I hop on, and ask if he's ready over Skype. He says he can't now because he's busy. I tell him he booked ahead and would have to pay for it even though he didn't show. He said no because it was a misunderstanding and he didn't book for that time. Which I KNOW he did and he's just being as asshole using the language card.

So basically I'm wondering if I should charge a deposit for booking ahead so this kind of thing doesn't happen again. I had another no show client when I could have been doing a show with a reliable customer during another occasion, and it's my ass I'm losing. Should I put on my profile that in order to book ahead, the client has to put a deposit down that will be counted towards their show when it happens? Or perhaps put a disclaimer as well that says if you miss a session and don't let me know, you'll be blocked and unable to book with me again? I'm usually so quick to ban on big box sites and am very no nonsense but don't want to come off as too aggressive. What do you think?

luvnrockets
01-15-2016, 10:02 AM
Hey loveshooks,

I read that you're super backed up and all, but I was wondering if you could give me a reasonable estimate on how long I can expect before new profiles will be approved? I applied yesterday.

Would setting up a simple payment processing page in the meantime be easier to do, or is it just as much of a pain as a customized page? If it'll be a while, it would be nice if I could have at least that set up and just refer custies to it.

Thanks! You da best.

loveshooks
01-15-2016, 07:05 PM
So I've been very happy with LCMS so far. I've been trying hard to bring my own traffic but more and more people have been telling me they found my from the site.

I have a question though. A lot of foreign guys that don't speak the best English (or pretend they don't) try to book shows with me. One client I did 2 shows with, and we understood each other perfectly fine despite the fact that he didn't have perfect English. So I asked him if he would like to book again with me after the show was over, and he said yes. After discussing a few options, he asked if we could do it the same time tomorrow, and I agreed. It was a for a lot earlier than I usually get up but I had high hopes for him as he had been such a good client for a first session and even booked another one immediately after so we could keep going. So I get up today, tired as hell and get all ready making sure to put a lot of concealer on the bags under my eyes. So I hop on, and ask if he's ready over Skype. He says he can't now because he's busy. I tell him he booked ahead and would have to pay for it even though he didn't show. He said no because it was a misunderstanding and he didn't book for that time. Which I KNOW he did and he's just being as asshole using the language card.

So basically I'm wondering if I should charge a deposit for booking ahead so this kind of thing doesn't happen again. I had another no show client when I could have been doing a show with a reliable customer during another occasion, and it's my ass I'm losing. Should I put on my profile that in order to book ahead, the client has to put a deposit down that will be counted towards their show when it happens? Or perhaps put a disclaimer as well that says if you miss a session and don't let me know, you'll be blocked and unable to book with me again? I'm usually so quick to ban on big box sites and am very no nonsense but don't want to come off as too aggressive. What do you think?

first off, I'm delighted that the site is working for you. seriously, makes me hella happy to know that it's adding some value to your business.

in terms of how to deal with 'cam later' dudes, everyone has a different system but mine is "will not deviate from my schedule to accomodate someone". You have work hours, he can see you during those. If your schedules don't match up lmk and I can always refund, but never feel like you have to bend over backwards to please a client. You have a life and your own schedule/responsibilities and the great dudes get that. the rest can pound sand and get refunded if need be. refunds are never an issue, never feel like you have to put yourself out to accomodate a client.

and in terms of turning down a new client hoping that an old booking will show up? fuck no. ever. if a new dude and a prescheduled guy both show up at the same time then yeah, def ethical to see the prebooked dude first, but to turn down a new client waiting on someone? not smart, and will end up with you resenting someone who could otherwise become a great long term client.

guys like chicas who are busy, embrace your success and make it clear that you don't sit around all day hoping a client will decide to show up/come by. as long as you communicate with them about your boundaries and time constraints it doesn't have to be a big deal. as long as they don't feel they're getting fucked over they'll respect you for it. Learned that first hand =)


Hey loveshooks,

I read that you're super backed up and all, but I was wondering if you could give me a reasonable estimate on how long I can expect before new profiles will be approved? I applied yesterday.

Would setting up a simple payment processing page in the meantime be easier to do, or is it just as much of a pain as a customized page? If it'll be a while, it would be nice if I could have at least that set up and just refer custies to it.

Thanks! You da best.

so cool when sw'ers join, gracias :goodvibes

In terms of approval, that is a given. Anyone is welcome to join. Just a matter of me receiving all the pertinent public/private info and publishing the page. Received a bunch of apps yesterday so not sure which is yours but if I haven't replied to you already I'll be doing so tonight, tomorrow morning at the latest.

Turn around time is now down to about 1 week, again really sorry for the delay but promo and peeps already on the site come first, they have to. Once your page is published though you become a top priority, and questions/concerns/issues/updates will always be answered/solved in full within 24 hours

also started a new promo campaign early this week that is going much better than I expected. they're not pre-existing skype dudes so I expect some "I paid and where is the girl" emails but I'm good at handling those and once I finish changing over the category pages I'm going to be adding some text to each profile reminding the guys to fucking contact y'all before they pay. apparently the home page 'how to book a show' link isn't enough

overall they're great guys though, LCMS is def not sm-level traffic but the ones who visit do spend and they def aren't assholes.

thanks as well to everyone who has provided feedback on 'time online' duration. want to balance between not being a PITA site to work (by having to set online status too frequently) and not having a bunch of listees 'online' who aren't available. So far what I'm hearing is that 18 hours might be too long, what do y'all think about 12?

sovereignv
01-15-2016, 07:24 PM
12 sounds much better to me. :)

luvnrockets
01-15-2016, 07:54 PM
Thanks!! I'm super excited. No indie site I'd rather be on. :)

Honestly I was expecting more than one week, so I'm quite impressed. By all means, give priority to those who deserve it. And I'm very happy to hear you feel the custies are more quality over quantity.

Yay!

Cam_Model_Jess
01-15-2016, 11:04 PM
LH, I think maybe part of what Kittie was asking is if it's ok to keep the customer's money if he's booked a show & isn't available at the scheduled time. If she can show you the Skype conversation where he told her what time he wanted the session & then he tried to back out of it...
She specifically prepared herself for his show & then he didn't do the show. So now he expects her to show up for another time of his choosing. It's an inconvenience to her. And it's not like he had a family emergency or something.

I think it's actually a good question: whether you would make the customer honor their agreement or whether you have to refund the client's money if he doesn't get the service he paid for.

In the second part, I think her story about the new, no-show client vs reliable client was just to illustrate why she thinks charging a deposit might be a good idea. I'm guessing that a client booked but hadn't paid yet & also didn't show, and an old, reliable client had also wanted a show at the same time but she turned down the reliable client because another client booked but didn't show. So then she has wasted her time & doesn't get any money for it. Kind of like how a Domme charges a deposit for in-person sessions. If the client is a no-show, she keeps the money. If he shows up, it goes toward his session.

If I'm misunderstanding the situation, I apologize.

Kittie, I've had customers ask me to do cam sessions at 6am because they're in a different time zone & I always turn them down. They don't come back, and that's fine with me because it's not worth it to me to get up hours early to make $30 or whatever it is. But I have stayed up super late to make $400. I think it's a matter of how much you want the money & how much you're willing to inconvenience yourself to get it. We all have our tolerance levels. I am a "no nonsense" kind of girl as well. If a client just didn't show up at the time we scheduled a session & he didn't give an explanation I would have just kept the money (if possible... site rules vary). I've actually had clients pre-book & tell me ahead of time that they can't make it but I can just keep the money. But your situation is a bit more complex because he claims that it really was a misunderstanding. If LH allows you to keep the money, then you have to decide if you want to see that client again. If you keep his money & don't do the show, he probably won't be back.

As for the deposit thing, I understand where you're coming from. I don't usually do "pay now, cam now" type of shows. My clients almost always (90% of the time) schedule ahead, and I require that they pay IN FULL in order to reserve that time with me. Let's say the client wants a show tomorrow, he MUST pay by tonight or he doesn't get his show tomorrow. Or if it's a same-day show I require that they pay a couple hours in advance. Now if I'm just hanging out on Skype it's a different story. They can pay & immediately (or within 15 minutes or whatever) do a show with me. And yeah, it stinks when you're hanging out on Skype & several guys want a show & you're trying to get ONE of them to confirm & pay so you don't have to keep stringing the others along. It can be a pain. I don't know how you ladies do that all the time.

KittieVenom
01-16-2016, 02:42 AM
LH, I think maybe part of what Kittie was asking is if it's ok to keep the customer's money if he's booked a show & isn't available at the scheduled time. If she can show you the Skype conversation where he told her what time he wanted the session & then he tried to back out of it...
She specifically prepared herself for his show & then he didn't do the show. So now he expects her to show up for another time of his choosing. It's an inconvenience to her. And it's not like he had a family emergency or something.

I think it's actually a good question: whether you would make the customer honor their agreement or whether you have to refund the client's money if he doesn't get the service he paid for.

In the second part, I think her story about the new, no-show client vs reliable client was just to illustrate why she thinks charging a deposit might be a good idea. I'm guessing that a client booked but hadn't paid yet & also didn't show, and an old, reliable client had also wanted a show at the same time but she turned down the reliable client because another client booked but didn't show. So then she has wasted her time & doesn't get any money for it. Kind of like how a Domme charges a deposit for in-person sessions. If the client is a no-show, she keeps the money. If he shows up, it goes toward his session.

If I'm misunderstanding the situation, I apologize.

Kittie, I've had customers ask me to do cam sessions at 6am because they're in a different time zone & I always turn them down. They don't come back, and that's fine with me because it's not worth it to me to get up hours early to make $30 or whatever it is. But I have stayed up super late to make $400. I think it's a matter of how much you want the money & how much you're willing to inconvenience yourself to get it. We all have our tolerance levels. I am a "no nonsense" kind of girl as well. If a client just didn't show up at the time we scheduled a session & he didn't give an explanation I would have just kept the money (if possible... site rules vary). I've actually had clients pre-book & tell me ahead of time that they can't make it but I can just keep the money. But your situation is a bit more complex because he claims that it really was a misunderstanding. If LH allows you to keep the money, then you have to decide if you want to see that client again. If you keep his money & don't do the show, he probably won't be back.

As for the deposit thing, I understand where you're coming from. I don't usually do "pay now, cam now" type of shows. My clients almost always (90% of the time) schedule ahead, and I require that they pay IN FULL in order to reserve that time with me. Let's say the client wants a show tomorrow, he MUST pay by tonight or he doesn't get his show tomorrow. Or if it's a same-day show I require that they pay a couple hours in advance. Now if I'm just hanging out on Skype it's a different story. They can pay & immediately (or within 15 minutes or whatever) do a show with me. And yeah, it stinks when you're hanging out on Skype & several guys want a show & you're trying to get ONE of them to confirm & pay so you don't have to keep stringing the others along. It can be a pain. I don't know how you ladies do that all the time.


You are exactly right. This guy never paid for anything but he prebooked with me and then said he was busy when I logged on to do the show. He never paid me or else I would keep the money. If he books another show with me, I will have him pay for the time he missed because I told him he HAD to. If he wants a show after that, he'll have to pay for that too, separately because they really are two separate shows. I still have not heard from him, so I doubt he'll come back anyway. But he's just a downright asshole. I have never had a problem with any member from LCMS so this one caught me by surprise.

From now on, I will be doing what you do, getting paid in full. Getting screwed over once was enough for me, and I really did need the money at the time or else I would never have gotten up at the time I did. Your way is a good way to weed out the cheap idiots so thank you very much for that! I am usually really a "no bullshit" woman on the other big box sites I work on so this will be no different.

KittieVenom
01-16-2016, 02:47 AM
Also, LH, 12 sounds pretty good to me. Also if you do any advertising and promos, can I please be a part of it? I told Jesse a few months back that I was making very little from the site (mostly my fault because I wasn't hustling as much as I should have), and got offered to be part of a promo. Well I didn't know what it was or when it was happening and was off skype for 2 months because I just wasn't using it. Then I log on and all these guys have added me wanting shows. Again, my fault, but if this happens again can I please be informed so I can have my skype on all my waking hours? I finally got the hang of the site and now I'm addicted. I've even started telling my Streamate regulars (what little of them are left to put up with the bs on that site) to go find me there because this site is worth getting kicked of SM for. Again thank you for making the best Indy cam site ever!

Cam_Model_Jess
01-16-2016, 03:01 AM
Oh, well then I did misunderstand. To me "booked" means "paid". Sorry for sticking my nose in there. If he never paid you then it's really a non-issue. I mean it sucks & all, but you're never going to get him to pay for a show you never gave him. He can just book with the next girl. And if he's going to try to scam you or waste your time, you don't want him as a customer anyway.

If you're going to make guys pre-pay, just a suggestion that you have a time limit. I have a very non-pushy way of giving them a payment deadline. "Sure I can do a show at 9am, but please remember to pay by 9pm tonight to reserve your slot or I'll have to schedule someone else. Hope to see you tomorrow." That kind of thing. That way you're not setting yourself up for resentment staying up until midnight to see if he will pay for his 9am show. I just do that when guys want morning shows because I normally don't cam until the afternoon. That system works for me. Probably wouldn't work for everyone. But Skype shows aren't my main income, so I'm not catering to the horny impulse purchaser. If you want those dick-in-hand impulse buys, you'll have to be more fluid I'm sure.

SuperPookie
01-16-2016, 08:25 AM
Hi, for the phone sex and texting options is there a system we go through to hide our number like NiteFlirt or are we already supposed to have that set up? I'd like to offer that as well

KittieVenom
01-16-2016, 01:46 PM
Oh, well then I did misunderstand. To me "booked" means "paid". Sorry for sticking my nose in there. If he never paid you then it's really a non-issue. I mean it sucks & all, but you're never going to get him to pay for a show you never gave him. He can just book with the next girl. And if he's going to try to scam you or waste your time, you don't want him as a customer anyway.

If you're going to make guys pre-pay, just a suggestion that you have a time limit. I have a very non-pushy way of giving them a payment deadline. "Sure I can do a show at 9am, but please remember to pay by 9pm tonight to reserve your slot or I'll have to schedule someone else. Hope to see you tomorrow." That kind of thing. That way you're not setting yourself up for resentment staying up until midnight to see if he will pay for his 9am show. I just do that when guys want morning shows because I normally don't cam until the afternoon. That system works for me. Probably wouldn't work for everyone. But Skype shows aren't my main income, so I'm not catering to the horny impulse purchaser. If you want those dick-in-hand impulse buys, you'll have to be more fluid I'm sure.


You are absolutely right, and I really shouldn't think of anyone as "booked" if the money isn't in my account. I'm going to try the pre-pay time limit thing. It seems to be a much better system and perfectly reasonable. I do hit up a lot with the said dick-in-hand guys, mostly at night when I'm logging off everything, but too fucking bad for them. Thank you for all your advice. I've only worked on "big box" cam sites so I'm learning the little tricks of Indy and balancing them out. Seriously you're fucking amazing.

luvnrockets
01-16-2016, 09:59 PM
I haven't heard back about my application...Just want to make sure it didn't get lost? I freak out about things with my real identity linked to my cam identity getting lost in the interwebs.

No worries if you haven't gotten to it, but did want to make sure since you said I should have heard back by now. :)

Thanks!

xxtinamariexx
01-17-2016, 06:53 PM
Hi, for the phone sex and texting options is there a system we go through to hide our number like NiteFlirt or are we already supposed to have that set up? I'd like to offer that as well

For the phone sex... LS does it through verifiedcall. numbers are blocked. There is a account page, where you can set your rate, profile information, picture, You can set a minimum call time (min is set for 5 min) so even if the guy hangs up after 2 min.. I still get my 5 min :) Love this!!! there is a Auto-Tweet Your Availability section too so when i log in, it gets tweeted out. My check for that comes through verified call not LS .. The calls always come FROM the same number, so I actually have that set as a contact in my phone.. so I Know who it is :) Hope this helps!

luvnrockets
01-17-2016, 08:30 PM
Nevermind loveshooks, just heard back from you.

Thanks a bunch. Don't work too hard. :)

loveshooks
01-17-2016, 10:18 PM
gracias so much everyone for helping out with answering questions here, and to Kittie for the awesome words

@Kittie, Jess is bang on (and yes, fucking amazing). Until a guy pays he's not a client, I would never suggest rearranging your schedule or putting yourself out until after payment has been made. Even with my own regs, if they contact me for a show I don't even get dressed until after they pay, not because I don't trust 'em but because if a dude legitimately needs to dash (it happens every now and then) after I've gotten ready that will piss me off, and I'd rather not be irked with my guys.

@XTM, thanks so much for explaining the phone system, like you wrote it is absolutely always a protected number, pay per min phone sex clients will NEVER see the real, underlying number.

@LR, huge apologies if I caused you any concern. I got massively bogged down over the weekend with some uber-pressing site stuff and I left a few emails for today. As of tonight everyone has received a reply and is in the queue. Deeply sorry for the wait and I hope it doesn't make anyone feel unelcome/not valued. Absolutely not the case, just a matter of struggling to keep up the pace at a crazy-busy time of year

on the application tip, anyone who is ever concerned about private info reaching the correct address is always welcome to send an initial 'heya, this is the right address?' email that I can reply to, that way there's no doubt that apps will reach me, and only me.

in terms of promo, just want to make it clear that it's always opt in, I don't use pics offsite unless a listee has given me explicit permission, and then all pics/text used always link back to the individual listee's page. anyone is always welcome tp participate, and @KV if you want to join in again we can make sure it's at a time that works for you. (I am Jesse, just in case you weren't clear on that, still a one-woman operation at this point).

for general promo I usually just use my own pics cuz that way i don't have to worry about a listee feeling taken advantage of, but the individual promo does tend to be more effective as it's not the same damn face in every picture.

gracias as well y'all for the input on online time duration. So far everyone I've heard from here and privately is recommending a shorter time period, so after a few more days of everyone getting used to the new system I'll change it to 12. I did get a few suggestions relating to having to sign in much more frequently, but I don't want to make the site too much of a PITA to use. Personally I would never use a site that forced me to do that, it wouldn't be worth my time.

also, since online placement every time a viewer refreshes a page or visits a new one, no one has to worry about being bumped down by listees who sign in after them. placement is always completely random, the site is still small enough that that choice seems to be working.

As things progress let me know how the 12 hour time duration works out, I can change it at will so none of this is set in stone.

also, finished switching out the category pages tonight. on a pretty busy day for the site I didn't receive a single "I paid, where is the girl?!??" email, so I'm hoping the change will help guys find y'all who actually are working, rather than waste everyone's time searching through a bunch of offline chicas

that's it for now, if anyone has any questions post away, and hope everyone had a wicked weekend :goodvibes

audritwo
01-17-2016, 11:38 PM
LH, thank you so much for catching an error and getting me paid! <3

SimoneGray
01-18-2016, 01:53 AM
I got a failed sale from a client this morning who is travelling so is not in the US...is there a way to whitelist certain clients so they can have shows no matter where they are?

loveshooks
01-18-2016, 09:46 PM
I like to keep most ish public but when it comes to the different elements of my scrub I def prefer to keep the details to skype, PM or email, def don't want to make it easier for card thieves to sneak through by posting that info publicly

I know I answered you privately Simone but to anyone else reading, if you have a trusted client who gets caught in the fraud scrub shoot me a message, we can easily identify what the issue is and there are always ways around them. I know it's a huge PITA but I have to balance client ease of use with protecting listees on the site and this is the best I can do.

one quick thing:

did some minor redesign on the site tonight to make it a bit more user-friendly for clients, one element of that was adding a new online category for texting. if you're on the site and offer texting you can log in and add that category yourself through the admin, I added that because the texting page was getting too large to be useful to anyone.

the changes aren't major but they def lend additional focus to active users of the site, which benefits everyone because it's a waste of both client and chica time if dudes visit and spend their time browsing listees who aren't around/available.

will be redesigning the model contract next, not changing any of the terms in any way but just reorganizing and expanding the info so that it's easier for prospective listees to get a sense of how the site works before they sign up

anyone has any questions or suggestions post away, and thanks so much y'all for your support of the site

hope everyone is having a wicked night =)

SuperPookie
01-19-2016, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I got approved and today was my first day using it and I got a show already!

CocoLoca
01-29-2016, 03:26 PM
I finally applied tooooooooo <3

jculp90
02-07-2016, 10:46 PM
anybody get their payment by check? wondering how long it takes also if you have ever had an issue, dont know if i should get a check for free or suck it up and pay the $4 for direct deposit

Magical_Hoohah
02-08-2016, 01:15 AM
I get a paper check. When LCMS first started, there were a couple kinks to work out, and LH absolutely went the extra mile to ensure I got my money while things were getting sorted. Since she implemented the current system, I have never had a problem at all (except for the recent east coast blizzard when the mail didn't run for over a week, which obviously isn't LCMS's fault).

I get my check consistently on the Thursday after it's paid, so for example 1/31-2/6 will be sent out on Sunday 2/14, and will arrive for me on Thursday 2/18. If Monday is a banking holiday, the check will usually arrive on Friday instead. Aside from Snowpocalypse, I have never had a check arrive late, which is amazing because my postal carrier is not very diligent. For reference, I live in a small city in the mid-Atlantic region of the US. YMMV depending on where you live and if your postal carrier is somehow more irresponsible than mine.

Also, if you are ok waiting for your money and want to minimize the impact of the $4 direct deposit fee, I believe you can request a different pay schedule, like once a month or biweekly.

sovereignv
02-09-2016, 06:56 PM
I was wondering how the review system on this site works? I can see a few performers have reviews on their pages, but I can't see how a member would leave a review on a page that doesn't already have a few. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, hah.

Not to be a suckup, but LH, thank you so much for your work on this site. You really are a camgirl's camgirl, so to speak.

Magical_Hoohah
02-09-2016, 09:41 PM
If you click the "Model Reviews" tab at the top of the site, then scroll past all the listed reviews, there's a form the guys can fill out to leave a review. Considering how many reviews there are now, it's a bit unwieldy. The only reason I know where to find it is because I knew where it was when there were only a couple posted. If you had problems finding it with your fully functional brain, I don't know how well the guy fare when they have either a hard cock or a post-orgasm stupor.

@LH Perhaps the Model Review form could move to the top of the page so guys can find it easily? I see the value in the guys seeing all our nice reviews immediately when they come to the page, so if that's a factor, maybe a "Leave a Review" link at the top of the page that shoots them down to the review form?

jculp90
02-11-2016, 03:53 PM
I get a paper check. When LCMS first started, there were a couple kinks to work out, and LH absolutely went the extra mile to ensure I got my money while things were getting sorted. Since she implemented the current system, I have never had a problem at all (except for the recent east coast blizzard when the mail didn't run for over a week, which obviously isn't LCMS's fault).

I get my check consistently on the Thursday after it's paid, so for example 1/31-2/6 will be sent out on Sunday 2/14, and will arrive for me on Thursday 2/18. If Monday is a banking holiday, the check will usually arrive on Friday instead. Aside from Snowpocalypse, I have never had a check arrive late, which is amazing because my postal carrier is not very diligent. For reference, I live in a small city in the mid-Atlantic region of the US. YMMV depending on where you live and if your postal carrier is somehow more irresponsible than mine.

Also, if you are ok waiting for your money and want to minimize the impact of the $4 direct deposit fee, I believe you can request a different pay schedule, like once a month or biweekly.

thank you for this, i am in the process of moving now so i won't them mailed yet but once i am all settled i will probably change it, i know its only $4 but hey over the course of a year that adds up and i like my money :D

loveshooks
02-14-2016, 11:54 AM
anybody get their payment by check? wondering how long it takes also if you have ever had an issue, dont know if i should get a check for free or suck it up and pay the $4 for direct deposit


I get a paper check. When LCMS first started, there were a couple kinks to work out, and LH absolutely went the extra mile to ensure I got my money while things were getting sorted. Since she implemented the current system, I have never had a problem at all (except for the recent east coast blizzard when the mail didn't run for over a week, which obviously isn't LCMS's fault).

I get my check consistently on the Thursday after it's paid, so for example 1/31-2/6 will be sent out on Sunday 2/14, and will arrive for me on Thursday 2/18. If Monday is a banking holiday, the check will usually arrive on Friday instead. Aside from Snowpocalypse, I have never had a check arrive late, which is amazing because my postal carrier is not very diligent. For reference, I live in a small city in the mid-Atlantic region of the US. YMMV depending on where you live and if your postal carrier is somehow more irresponsible than mine.

Also, if you are ok waiting for your money and want to minimize the impact of the $4 direct deposit fee, I believe you can request a different pay schedule, like once a month or biweekly.

gracias so much for stepping in MH, you rock :)

@jculp, checks are really reliable. MH went through a lot with me in the very beginning as I started lcms (in 2014, in the middle of an international move), BEFORE I realized that mail on this island takes an average of 3 months. Her infinite patience with me at the start of the site shall go down in history books (can't thank you enough for that chica) but since the 'not sending mail from this island issue' was solved, checks have not been a problem.

In almost two years of sending out weekly checks through my bank (and a couple from payroll) only ever had a small handful (4) go missing, two of those cases were not a bank error but rather incorrect address deets in one case, a neighbourhood with chronic mail theft in the other. The other two were genuinely lost checks. In all of the four cases I quickly reissued at no cost to the listees involved. In terms of delivery though not a bad track record considering I send out about 20-25 checks per week, every week. For international checks I send those through payroll (no one uses that though, as int'l checks cost the same as direct deposit), for US checks I send those out directly from my bank online. In both cases super-easy to track and reliable. Speaking honestly, if I was an lcms listee in the US I would opt for check, it's free and arrives two days after ACH so not a huge wait. Plus you save $20 per month. Not a ton of cash but it def adds up over time.


I was wondering how the review system on this site works? I can see a few performers have reviews on their pages, but I can't see how a member would leave a review on a page that doesn't already have a few. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, hah.

Not to be a suckup, but LH, thank you so much for your work on this site. You really are a camgirl's camgirl, so to speak.

thanks so much for the kind words, really appreciated :goodvibes

in terms of reviews, guys can leave a review from the button on the home page, from the model review page and also from the 'purchase confirmed' page that clients reach when they send a payment. That URL is . Some listees have custom payment confirmed pages, with a tip button. Anyone who would like one is welcome to it.

I add all reviews manually, any time one comes in I add it to the review page and the home page sidebar, listees who would like their reviews on their profiles are welcome to that as well. Just let me know and I'll add that in.


If you click the "Model Reviews" tab at the top of the site, then scroll past all the listed reviews, there's a form the guys can fill out to leave a review. Considering how many reviews there are now, it's a bit unwieldy. The only reason I know where to find it is because I knew where it was when there were only a couple posted. If you had problems finding it with your fully functional brain, I don't know how well the guy fare when they have either a hard cock or a post-orgasm stupor.

@LH Perhaps the Model Review form could move to the top of the page so guys can find it easily? I see the value in the guys seeing all our nice reviews immediately when they come to the page, so if that's a factor, maybe a "Leave a Review" link at the top of the page that shoots them down to the review form?

brilliant idea, merci Mlle. and done =)


thank you for this, i am in the process of moving now so i won't them mailed yet but once i am all settled i will probably change it, i know its only $4 but hey over the course of a year that adds up and i like my money :D

with ya there chica. Apologies for not keeping up with this thread. If you have any additional questions post away or email me, whatever system works best for you is cool with me.

I'd like to apologize for my lack of speedy email replies last week (particularly when it comes to new apps but a few non-emerg emails also fell through the cracks and took a couple of days to reply to). Won't go into too much detail but basically been dealing with a pretty disruptive health issue for the past few months that ended up in emerg surgery last week on another island last week when the issue became acute. I didn't post anything at the time as

a) when the issue became acute I was really fucking sick

b) wasn't sure how everything would play out in terms of recovery (as until I got to the hospital in JA wasn't sure what would happen)

c) had my guy all up to date on payout systems so he could handle payouts today if I was still out of commission

d) didn't want to worry anyone or cause concern about the stability of the site. posting a total lack of info wouldn't be helpful to anyone

I know that last point is a huge point of concern for any chica who uses a single-owner site or service, just want to assure everyone that I have planned for every possible scenario, if I got hit by a truck tomorrow all funds owed would still be paid out. Both my partner and my mom know how to handle payouts and close things up if something were to ever happen to me

I'm fine though, very sore and def not back to 100% yet but the protracted health issue that's been kicking my azz should be gone now, which will make me more effective long term as I won't be dealing with any of the [email protected] that's been a bane over the past few months, sapping my energy and focus. Three days post-surgery I'm off prescription painkillers so y'all don't need to worry about me appearing on an episode of Intervention either =)

hope everyone is having a wicked weekend, and thanks to each of you for your support of the site. Best job I've ever had cuz of y'all, and I look forward to running lcms with more strength and less distraction from hereon out. With this fuckery over with should be back to 100% very soon. Been a while and looking forward to it

peace and $$$ y'all, and happy vday =)