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Kellydancer
06-08-2014, 02:18 PM
Here's one take on how modern men are trained to hate women:
Thanks for posting that. The one way they mentioned directly connects to this and that is that many men believe they deserve hot women. This is why things like this happen and it's because too many men have this mindset. Many men look at woman not as people but as playthings. I sometimes post at this other forum and the men there only look at women either as sex objects or maids and it's disturbing. Oh they claim this isn't true but when a man calls a 40 year old woman ugly or asks what she brings to a marriage then we know what they are saying is this is a woman's only worth.
Almost Jaded
06-08-2014, 09:09 PM
Vamp, SMurfette, etc - you're swinging a double-edged sword one way and denying that it cuts on both sides. NOBODY IS DISAGREEING THAT THE ABUSIVE MEN ARE A PROBLEM. Nobody is saying that.
What others are sayng, and DJ the loudest and most persistently, is that if misogynistic behavior wasn't rewarded so often - it would stop.
Does that mean it's on women to stop it? NO! Nobody is saying that! We're saying that there's more to it than "men are assholes", and some of you seem to be refusing to acknowledge that.
And we're totally ignoring the many, many, other factors present here. For instance, media telling guys like this asshole shooter that these wone SHOULD go out with them. Media sending he message that BOTH sexes receive - men believe they're entitled to a certain kind of girl, and girl believe they're entitled to a rich well hung guy who will support her just for being hot. EVERYONE ON BOTH SIDES IS FUCKED IN THE HEAD.
Besides which, even this shooting isn't "on-topic", or rather, this topic isn't all about this shooting. He killed more males than females. He went on a rampage that may or may not have had anything to do with hatred toward women. A man who hates women goes on a rampage. He may also have hated the color purple and targeted people wearing it. ALl we know is, he went nuts. For some reason, we're all focusing on his hatred of women as THE REASON - and nobody really knows that.
Technically, everything not about the shooting is off topic here, lol.
simone87
06-08-2014, 09:43 PM
^ how do we not know that?..considering that he said it REPEATEDLY? he also only hated men because they posessed what he didn't " All those girls that I’ve desired so much, they would’ve all rejected me and looked down upon me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance towards them while they throw themselves at these obnoxious brutes". sounds EXACTLY like the average troll complaining he has been friend zoned and that women never like "nice guys". or, as he put it, " the supreme gentleman".
why is it SO hard for people to accept this? because it might mean that there are changes that actually need to be made? when people sit there and go " yeah, well not ALL men" that's part of the problem!! shit needs to be changed instead of being brushed off. and yes, society needs to stop teaching men and women shit that ruins lives. and i heartily disagree with saying " society teaches women is that they need to only marry a rich man with a big dick" is the worst thing they've taught women. more like " you need a man and that plus being pretty is the pinnacle of all that is holy. and you just gotta stand by your man through thick and thin, and if he cheats or treats you like shit..well boys will be boys!"
sierra.
06-09-2014, 01:32 PM
I do think it was more than typical misogynistic thinking motivating this sick fuck. But in saying so I get these shrill hysterical cries that I am the fucking misogynist??
I don't have the energy to keep up with this thread, I just want to point out that this is the second thread I've seen recently about men abusing women, where a man described a woman's dissenting opinion as "shrill". This time "hysterical cries" was thrown in for good measure. How lovely, nothing sexist about this language at all.
Smurfette
06-09-2014, 01:45 PM
Besides which, even this shooting isn't "on-topic", or rather, this topic isn't all about this shooting. He killed more males than females. He went on a rampage that may or may not have had anything to do with hatred toward women. A man who hates women goes on a rampage. He may also have hated the color purple and targeted people wearing it. ALl we know is, he went nuts. For some reason, we're all focusing on his hatred of women as THE REASON - and nobody really knows that.
No, he specifically went on his rampage BECAUSE he hated women for denying him sex. He killed men as well because he was jealous of their sex lives and ability to get girls. He had no animosity towards men in general, he only hated them because he didn't think they deserved all that love and sex when a "supreme gentleman" like him wasn't getting any.
I will punish all females for the crime of depriving me of sex. They have starved me of sex for my entire youth, and gave that pleasure to other men. In doing so, they took many years of my life away. I cannot kill every single female on earth, but I can deliver a devastating blow that will shake all of them to the core of their wicked hearts. I will attack the very girls who represent everything I hate in the female gender: The hottest sorority of UCSB. After doing a lot of extensive research within the last year, I found out that the sorority with the most beautiful girls is Alpha Phi Sorority. I know exactly where their h
ouse is, and I’ve sat outside it in my car to stalk them many times. Alpha Phi sorority is full of hot, beautiful blonde girls; the kind of girls I’ve
always desired but was never able to have because they all look down on me. They are all spoiled, heartless, wicked bitches. They think they are superior to me, and if I ever tried to ask one on a date, they would reject me cruelly. I will sneak into their house at around 9:00 p.m. on the Day of Retribution, just before all of the partying starts, and slaughter every single one of them with my guns and knives. If I have time, I will set their whole house on fire. Then we shall see who the superior one really is!
And more...
The ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female. They are the main instigators of sex. They
control which men get it and which men don’t.
Women are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains are wired. They think like beasts, and in truth, they
are
beasts. Women are incapable of having morals or thinking rationally. They are completely controlled by their depraved emotions and vile sexual impulses. Because of this, the men who do get to experience the pleasures of sex and the privilege of breeding are the men who women are
sexually
attracted to… the stupid, degenerate
, obnoxious men. I have observed this all my life. The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself. Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.
Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any right
s. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
But yeah, I'm sure none of that has anything to do with why he went on his rampage... he was probably just venting or something ::)
Djoser
06-09-2014, 04:26 PM
OK we can all agree the UCSB shooter was a totally sick fuck. Men and women attacking each other here isn't going to help that at all.
I kept this thread open earlier when a good friend told me she thought it might do some good somehow. That time has clearly passed; all that is going on here now is men & women attacking each other for no good reason at all, whatsoever.
I urge any woman here trapped in an abusive relationship to seek mental health counseling, and check out the local battered women's shelters.
I urge any man who thinks the UCSB shooter had some sort of point with his deranged babble to go shoot himself.