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carmen_b
08-26-2020, 11:10 AM
Not having the relationship piece is very uncomfortable for women.
Obviously we don't want guys scamming and lying about " being a boyfriend " . We want the real deal.
90% of women will admit this ( to those they trust ) even though there is a culture of " playing it cool " ect.

All this does is create an atmosphere where men get lazier and lazier.

It can be alarming and upsetting to have sex and then find out the guy either wasn't really who he said or that he just " doesn't want anything serious ".

^ " Can I remind you Sir that a piece of your body was inside my body lol ? " . It's already serious.

Raziel
08-26-2020, 12:18 PM
I was making a generalization. One thing which really struck me as peculiar when I left the community was how hung up people in the English world are over convenience. Which, I understood “culture of convenience” was a thing (e.g., people will pay $2 for a 20 ounce bottle of pop even if 2 liter bottles are the same price or cheaper because they’re willing to pay for the convenience), but I never really understood just how deeply embedded into the minds of people that mentality was. Which really does explain a lot of things, and could make for a very lengthy discussion, but then you apply that to dating and the whole thing just goes to shit. Like everything else, people expect it all to just fall into their lap.

Maybe I’m still a bit old-fashioned, but I expect an effort to be made in order to win me over, which people generally seem to be unwilling to do, because it requires effort on their part. It’s not convenient for them.

So, I look at what I’ve achieved on my own, and then I look at that, and I look at the would-be suitors I’ve encountered or which others have tried setting me up with, and I just don’t understand how it is that I’m supposed to come to any conclusion other than that I’m better off on my own.

One more thing, I always put in effort, but it's not always the effort she wants. Sometimes things fall apart. It's natural. I'm very particular about that. Probably why i'm still single after seven fucking years.

GoddessLilith
08-26-2020, 02:24 PM
I generally go by the 3rd date rule if it's something I want to last for a little while :)

jack0177057
08-26-2020, 03:42 PM
But ironically it seems like when I started pulling back and not giving as much physically n emotionally is when guys started confessing their desire to be with me.

I think part of this comes from basic human psychology that makes us value more the things that we had to work harder to earn. When a woman makes you earn it, there is greater sense of investment, accomplishment, pride and appreciation when you finally earn the prize. Having said that, you will think I am a hypocrite when I am trying my best to get laid on the first date... Well, I'm a man.

And make the guy take you out on proper dates. If he is too cheap to take you to a nice restaurant to eat and drink a good bottle of wine, then either (1) he is a cheap bastard, (2) he is a broke bastard, or (3) he is juggling too many dates and needs to stay within a budget on each one.

Raziel
08-26-2020, 06:51 PM
God, i'm dying, here.

AChildOfBoredom
08-26-2020, 07:04 PM
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SnuffleUffleGrass
08-26-2020, 07:09 PM
I'm beating a dead horse by revisiting this topic, but..........

Most people in non-arranged marriage cultures go on a handful of dates before getting into the "touchy feely" part of knowing eachother.

To be honest, it's not the amount of gratification in the encounters that matter, it's the closeness.

Raziel
08-26-2020, 08:38 PM
^Damn skippy

Raziel
08-26-2020, 08:39 PM
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You are Cruel.

miss.a.p1600
08-26-2020, 08:39 PM
Not having the relationship piece is very uncomfortable for women.
Obviously we don't want guys scamming and lying about " being a boyfriend " . We want the real deal.
90% of women will admit this ( to those they trust ) even though there is a culture of " playing it cool " ect.

All this does is create an atmosphere where men get lazier and lazier.

It can be alarming and upsetting to have sex and then find out the guy either wasn't really who he said or that he just " doesn't want anything serious ".

^ " Can I remind you Sir that a piece of your body was inside my body lol ? " . It's already serious.

pretty much!

i almost got bamboozled by a smooth player last fall

almost ended my celibacy for him

but thankfully I started asking hella questions right before he tried to fuck (would have/should have done it sooner) but hey he mesmerizing with his seductive charm

come to find out this asshole was just sleeping around to fill a void because his longtime girlfriend had just broken up with him and ignored tf out of him to teach him some sort of lesson.

looking back I felt he conveniently omitted the fact he had a girlfriend and wasn’t looking for anything serious because he didn’t want to ruin his chances of getting sex

this was 2 dates in

so yeah take as long as you need to make sure the persons intentions match yours

Good thing I never gave it up to him. But I admit, I got close.

Raziel
08-26-2020, 09:09 PM
Yeah, but MissP, were you in a Relationship with him? If he's not in a Relationship he can do what he wants. Once you are IN a Relationship he better fucking behave, though.

2 dates in? Doesn't sound like a Relationship to me. What did he tell you?

Look, i play around, too. But i'm not in a Relationship. Just keep meeting CRAZY Women. I knew one for like 24 hours and she started asking me to move to LA with her so she could learn Watsu (Kind of a Bathtub Message). FUCK NO, i don't even know you. I'll end up as a side of BACON. That sort of thing.

If i am in a Relationship, i'm always loyal.

Golden_Rule
08-27-2020, 12:15 AM
Life is too short to play games with rules that set arbitrary limits.

When I dated I dated because I enjoy someone’s company. That can exist on any level, vertical or horizontal. So that’s all that really matters to me, and my only expectation. So it doesn’t matter to me how we’re having fun, as long as it’s being had. Takes all the pressure off me, as all I have to do is have a good time. If it’s suppose to get physical, it will. First, tenth, whatever. I usually follow her lead on that. If not and we’re still having fun it’s a friendship, not dating, and we adjust to what feels right and still hang out. I find it sorts itself out in fairly short order.

Seemed to work for me as I’ve never gone horny for long. [dopiest, but earnest, grin}

My wife was my neighbor and a good friend for 12 years, knew me for the hedonistic soul that I am, found it amusing as a friend but preferred it at arms length. I enjoy being around her. At one point the stars just got in a funny alignment and, blam, it changed gears. We’ve been happily, mostly, married for 26 years.

It works the way it works when it works, and if you stop worrying about rules and just live it falls the way it’s meant to fall.

tempest666
08-27-2020, 02:57 AM
I think he made me wait until the third one.

Raziel
08-27-2020, 03:23 AM
I think he made me wait until the third one.

Tempest, i don't even do THAT. I only do it when YOU want to. But NEVER on the first date. (Well, not you personally, sorry, but the Woman)

Look, i'm a Guy, too. I love sex, it's fun! But if i'm trying for a real relationship i tend to wait till SHE is cool with it. But if it's just bullshit i'll fuck her brains out BEFORE we even go out on a date, if she'll let me. Done it before.

Look, if i need it that bad, i'll just hit an Escort.

AChildOfBoredom
08-27-2020, 04:19 AM
You are Cruel.

Well… yeah.

Raziel
08-27-2020, 04:31 AM
Hey, i even mentioned a Hot Dog. :(

:)

miss.a.p1600
08-27-2020, 05:18 AM
Yeah, but MissP, were you in a Relationship with him? If he's not in a Relationship he can do what he wants. Once you are IN a Relationship he better fucking behave, though.

2 dates in? Doesn't sound like a Relationship to me. What did he tell you?

Look, i play around, too. But i'm not in a Relationship. Just keep meeting CRAZY Women. I knew one for like 24 hours and she started asking me to move to LA with her so she could learn Watsu (Kind of a Bathtub Message). FUCK NO, i don't even know you. I'll end up as a side of BACON. That sort of thing.

If i am in a Relationship, i'm always loyal.

Right but I feel like it’s better to be honest with your intentions. Like whether or not you want long term or your just looking for some casual fun and be with people who want the same thing.

Otherwise, Thats how mfs end up on Snapped show.

I preferred long term (and he knew that) but he had no problem hiding his intentions (sport fucking to boost his ego) so that he could get what he wanted without any regard for what I wanted / was feeling.

It’s a cold world. The more I probed him, I discovered his ass just got out of a long term relationship about a month before I met him. He said SHE ended it (major ego hit to most dudes). After I told him I just wanted to get to know him (aka I’m trying to make sure he’s over his “ex” before I give too much of myself) he became less available and never asked for any other dates (because he knew his objective- to fuck with no commitment or attachment was out of the equation) but instead tried to trick me n waste my time (probably as his petty revenge for not fucking him on 1st or 2nd date) by calling me everyday for about 2 weeks. I should have never answered but admittedly I was confused.

I did like him at first but Glad I caught on before I got too attached to him emotionally and physically.

Raziel
08-27-2020, 05:22 AM
Well… yeah.

They had one thing in common: they were good in bed.
She'd say, "Faster, faster "The lights are turning red"

~The Eagles. Life in the Fast Lane

And i suspect it's true for both of us.

Raziel
08-27-2020, 05:26 AM
Right but I feel like it’s better to be honest with your intentions. Like whether or not you want long term or your just looking for some casual fun and be with people who want the same thing.

Otherwise, Thats how mfs end up on Snapped show.

I preferred long term (and he knew that) but he had no problem hiding his intentions (sport fucking to boost his ego) so that he could get what he wanted without any regard for what I wanted / was feeling.

It’s a cold world. The more I probed him, I discovered his ass just got out of a long term relationship about a month before I met him. He said SHE ended it (major ego hit to most dudes). After I told him I just wanted to get to know him (aka I’m trying to make sure he’s over his “ex” before I give too much of myself) he became less available and never asked for any other dates (because he knew his objective- to fuck with no commitment or attachment was out of the equation) but instead tried to trick me n waste my time (probably as his petty revenge for not fucking him on 1st or 2nd date) by calling me everyday for about 2 weeks. I should have never answered but admittedly I was confused.

I did like him at first but Glad I caught on before I got too attached to him emotionally and physically.

I've never seen Snapped, don't even know what it is.

I'm sorry the dude wasted your time. But but maybe he just shouldn't have been in a Relationship at all. You did right ditching him.

I'm not in a Relationship, either, but every girl knows exactly what my intentions are. I'm honest with them.

You got a better dude now, don't ya? So feel happy!

miss.a.p1600
08-27-2020, 05:29 AM
Life is too short to play games with rules that set arbitrary limits.

When I dated I dated because I enjoy someone’s company. That can exist on any level, vertical or horizontal. So that’s all that really matters to me, and my only expectation. So it doesn’t matter to me how we’re having fun, as long as it’s being had. Takes all the pressure off me, as all I have to do is have a good time. If it’s suppose to get physical, it will. First, tenth, whatever. I usually follow her lead on that. If not and we’re still having fun it’s a friendship, not dating, and we adjust to what feels right and still hang out. I find it sorts itself out in fairly short order.

Seemed to work for me as I’ve never gone horny for long. [dopiest, but earnest, grin}

My wife was my neighbor and a good friend for 12 years, knew me for the hedonistic soul that I am, found it amusing as a friend but preferred it at arms length. I enjoy being around her. At one point the stars just got in a funny alignment and, blam, it changed gears. We’ve been happily, mostly, married for 26 years.

It works the way it works when it works, and if you stop worrying about rules and just live it falls the way it’s meant to fall.

Well that’s awesome you’ve been married for 26 years!

My opinion is that rules help prevent you from constantly getting your heart broken (or worse raped/killed) or ending up with the wrong person.

One one hand I preferred to set certain rules for myself when dating. Ex

Only go places in public until I know they’re not a serial killer or rapist
Do not go to their home/stay after 10pm unless I plan to fuck
Do not pay or go Dutch on the first date (I’m old fashioned so I prefer not to pay for dates unless it’s the guys birthday or some holiday or special occasion)

Etc

I did realize that when I had too many rules is when I filtered out almost most guys (even the good ones) meaning the filters may have been too strict.

When I had no rules is when I ended up fucking guys way too quickly and not getting any of my needs met.

Have rules n standards but have a balance

I ended up with my current guy because I relaxed my filters a bit because treated me very well and went above and beyond to prove to me that he’d be a guy of good character

miss.a.p1600
08-27-2020, 05:30 AM
I've never seen Snapped, don't even know what it is.

I'm sorry the dude wasted your time. But but maybe he just shouldn't have been in a Relationship at all. You did right ditching him.

I'm not in a Relationship, either, but every girl knows exactly what my intentions are. I'm honest with them.

You got a better dude now, don't ya? So feel happy!

Yeah I feel happy.

Just get caught up ranting sometimes Lol!

That’s good you’re honest with ladies when you’re dating

Oh and snapped is a show that features deranged women who kill their partners. The women with snap after being bamboozled by their dude or they are black widow or whatever you call it just straight sociopaths

Raziel
08-27-2020, 05:39 AM
That’s good you’re honest with ladies when you’re dating

Thank you, Hun. I appreciate that.

slowpoke
08-27-2020, 11:14 AM
“(A) new study commissioned by the dating service Match.com (found) 34 percent of young adults report having sex before even going on a date with someone. Millennials — people between the ages of 18 and 34 — are 48 percent more likely to have sex before a first date, so they can “see if there’s a connection,” than all other generations of singles.”
(Extreme wordiness deleted. )

https://pointofview.net/viewpoints/sex-before-dating/

Raziel
08-27-2020, 12:20 PM
Yeah, well that's Millennials. How many of those turn into Long Term Relationships? Not many, i'd bet. They probably don't even wear a rubber.

slowpoke
08-27-2020, 03:31 PM
I think he made me wait until the third one.


Increasing anticipation.

miss.a.p1600
08-27-2020, 07:32 PM
Yeah, well that's Millennials. How many of those turn into Long Term Relationships? Not many, i'd bet. They probably don't even wear a rubber.

exactly

Probably barely wash their ass enough

slowpoke
08-28-2020, 12:27 PM
I was making a generalization. One thing which really struck me as peculiar when I left the community was how hung up people in the English world are over convenience. Which, I understood “culture of convenience” was a thing (e.g., people will pay $2 for a 20 ounce bottle of pop even if 2 liter bottles are the same price or cheaper because they’re willing to pay for the convenience), but I never really understood just how deeply embedded into the minds of people that mentality was. Which really does explain a lot of things, and could make for a very lengthy discussion, but then you apply that to dating and the whole thing just goes to shit. Like everything else, people expect it all to just fall into their lap.



It often thought Germans would rathar spend five minutes tightening a nut in a confined space with an end wrench, instead of five seconds using a socket and speed handle.

lurkingtitties
08-28-2020, 04:32 PM
“(A) new study commissioned by the dating service Match.com (found) 34 percent of young adults report having sex before even going on a date with someone. Millennials — people between the ages of 18 and 34 — are 48 percent more likely to have sex before a first date, so they can “see if there’s a connection,” than all other generations of singles.”
(Extreme wordiness deleted. )

https://pointofview.net/viewpoints/sex-before-dating/

Millennials were born between 1981-1996, and are currently 24-39 years old. Also the link leads to a heavily biased Christian site.

Bahuba
08-28-2020, 06:41 PM
Gen x rules!!

Raziel
08-29-2020, 02:36 PM
Oh and snapped is a show that features deranged women who kill their partners. The women with snap after being bamboozled by their dude or they are black widow or whatever you call it just straight sociopaths

Well, not my thing, but whatever. I'm not really into watching shit about Murders. Is that on Investigation Discovery? It's interesting watching the process the cops use, but a lot of the time i am GUTTED by what happened, especially when it's a Woman it happened to. It hurts.

neverendingkneebruises
10-29-2020, 09:21 PM
I think part of this comes from basic human psychology that makes us value more the things that we had to work harder to earn. When a woman makes you earn it, there is greater sense of investment, accomplishment, pride and appreciation when you finally earn the prize. Having said that, you will think I am a hypocrite when I am trying my best to get laid on the first date... Well, I'm a man.

And make the guy take you out on proper dates. If he is too cheap to take you to a nice restaurant to eat and drink a good bottle of wine, then either (1) he is a cheap bastard, (2) he is a broke bastard, or (3) he is juggling too many dates and needs to stay within a budget on each one.

This. Thank you. If a man doesn't have the money to take you somewhere nice, he either doesn't care about you, or shouldn't be dating.

I hate this wave of pick-mes who say we should go half on dates and be low maintenance. :O Yeah no, my partner loves me so he pampers me because he knows I'm worth it. When you actually love/care about someone, do you want to skimp on them???
Also I'm a woman, I'm not doing "walk dates" or Netflix & Chill, I'm not trying to get murdered, or abused. NEVER date a man who is stingy with money. (I don't mean being financially responsible, there is a difference)

Fucking ain't fair, act accordingly, (https://www.therealfemaledatingstrategy.com/post/fucking-ain-t-fair-act-accordingly) especially if you are in the US, our reproductive rights may be taken away soon. Guard your womb & wellbeing as if your life depends on it.

indiegirl
10-29-2020, 10:21 PM
I'm still waiting until I get a good vanilla job and having the man who I see as marriage potential wait until marriage for sex. I've had more than my fair share of fun in bed (plus clients) but I'm getting old & want a man in it for the right reasons and that long term emotional connection SO much more. Putting a dick in a hole is not what I am searching for and men can/do lie to women just for the sex lol. He's gotta earn it. So many cheaters are out there.

Raziel
10-30-2020, 04:33 AM
This. Thank you. If a man doesn't have the money to take you somewhere nice, he either doesn't care about you, or shouldn't be dating.

I hate this wave of pick-mes who say we should go half on dates and be low maintenance. :O Yeah no, my partner loves me so he pampers me because he knows I'm worth it. When you actually love/care about someone, do you want to skimp on them???
Also I'm a woman, I'm not doing "walk dates" or Netflix & Chill, I'm not trying to get murdered, or abused. NEVER date a man who is stingy with money. (I don't mean being financially responsible, there is a difference)

Fucking ain't fair, act accordingly, (https://www.therealfemaledatingstrategy.com/post/fucking-ain-t-fair-act-accordingly) especially if you are in the US, our reproductive rights may be taken away soon. Guard your womb & wellbeing as if your life depends on it.

Well, Netflix and chill can be cool IF you are already together. You don't always want to go out every day, sometimes you just want to sit on the couch and relax with your arm around your girl. But not in pursuit mode. Take her to interesting places, not just dinner and a movie unless it's something she's dying to see (Sometimes prepare for hell, but she's worth it), but try to come up with cool shit to take her to see and do. She'll like that.

Always gotta keep your Girl happy and interested. Or she'll find someone who will.

I had one Girl that was totally into Romantic Comedies, the bane of my existence. I took her, and I endured it. Hated every second, but I loved being with her. She was happy, so I was happy. Just hated the Movie.

I took one Girl on a date to Meremac Caverns. Jesse James used it as a hideout once. It's a Cave where they lead you through it tour guide style, she'd never been there and we were looking at these beautiful Stalactites, it's a really pretty cave. Got laid that night, too. Fun date.

Raziel
10-30-2020, 05:01 AM
neverendingkneebruises, Just to give you some frame of reference

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BambiCutie
10-30-2020, 05:05 AM
Yeah, well that's Millennials. How many of those turn into Long Term Relationships? Not many, i'd bet. They probably don't even wear a rubber.

I usually don't associate having sex as an instant relationship starter, but have met some guys who see sex as the start of a relationship.
Also he better initiate double wrapping his shit or else access denied.

Raziel
10-30-2020, 05:11 AM
I usually don't associate having sex as an instant relationship starter, but have met some guys who see sex as the start of a relationship.
Also he better initiate double wrapping his shit or else access denied.

LOLOL! Sex is not the start of a relationship. It's one thing if it's just a one night stand, or something, but if you want a relationship, hold off, get to know her. Sex will come. Once she knows you don't just see her as Tits and Ass.

neverendingkneebruises
10-30-2020, 01:41 PM
Well, Netflix and chill can be cool IF you are already together. You don't always want to go out every day, sometimes you just want to sit on the couch and relax with your arm around your girl. But not in pursuit mode. Take her to interesting places, not just dinner and a movie unless it's something she's dying to see (Sometimes prepare for hell, but she's worth it), but try to come up with cool shit to take her to see and do. She'll like that.

Always gotta keep your Girl happy and interested. Or she'll find someone who will.

I had one Girl that was totally into Romantic Comedies, the bane of my existence. I took her, and I endured it. Hated every second, but I loved being with her. She was happy, so I was happy. Just hated the Movie.

I took one Girl on a date to Meremac Caverns. Jesse James used it as a hideout once. It's a Cave where they lead you through it tour guide style, she'd never been there and we were looking at these beautiful Stalactites, it's a really pretty cave. Got laid that night, too. Fun date.

Yeah I'm talking about like, for a first or even fifth date lol. My fiancé and I cuddle together with movies and dinner all the time. :)

lemiwinks31
10-30-2020, 04:20 PM
LOLOL! Sex is not the start of a relationship. It's one thing if it's just a one night stand, or something, but if you want a relationship, hold off, get to know her. Sex will come. Once she knows you don't just see her as Tits and Ass.

Everyone is different, you cant generalize. What works for one may not work for another.

I have had short relationships, long, exclusive relationships, and quite a few 1 night stands (or FWB type relationships, that would never lead to a monogamous relationship.) I have had sex the 1st date, waited 2-4 or 5 dates, and waited months. At no time did how early i had sex in a relationship determine how i felt about the long term prospects of that relationship. Been married to my wife for 25 happy years.....we had sex the 1st night.

If you think waiting to have sex says something about the quality of person you or the other person is....you do what works for you. That kind of thinking isnt for everyone.

What it told me is that me and my wife really connected, and both wanted to have sex with each other that first night. The relationship built from there, didnt have anything to do with the early sex, though it was a nice perk.

Raziel
10-30-2020, 07:07 PM
^ Well, it works for me. You do you. I don't judge.

Raziel
10-30-2020, 07:30 PM
Yeah I'm talking about like, for a first or even fifth date lol. My fiancé and I cuddle together with movies and dinner all the time. :)

Yeah, always (and I've said this before) take her to see like, the Art Museum, or (in Saint Louis, at least) the Planetarium, the Zoo, the Science Center, Six Flags, Miniature Golf (this is a good one, you can "help her with her swing", by wrapping your arms around her), or whatever, something the last guy didn't do. If you like her, it helps. Whatever it is, it needs to be interesting and fun.

That Meremac Caverns Girl, she just was used to dinner and a movie. She was blown away by Meremac Caverns. She thought I was the GOD of dates. It works!

Raziel
10-30-2020, 09:49 PM
especially if you are in the US, our reproductive rights may be taken away soon. Guard your womb & wellbeing as if your life depends on it.

No glove, no love.

We do have options. I'm not thrilled about this either, but there are a lot of contraception options. We will start having to use them. At least until Amy Coney Barret starts trying to shove her religion down our throats and tries to get rid of Contraception. Which she will, but hopefully the other Justices will stop her. Use contraception and no abortion is needed.

AChildOfBoredom
10-31-2020, 01:46 AM
I think a major part of the reason why trying to fuck me is a losing prospect hinges on my dispositions about life and death. I’ve already crossed that bar, and it caused me to lose a lot of my inhibitions about it. The prospect of death… it just doesn’t scare me anymore, and I understand that there is no choice than to heed it when death decides to call you. So what I see now is people who have a propensity to become so scared of dying that they’re absolutely afraid to live. Men and women alike, though it’s men who are the ones trying to nail me (although not exclusively). Regardless of ,y lack of a sex drive, I’d at least be more open to the notion if the men who tried weren’t… well, for lack of a better term, a bunch of fucking pussies. If I wanna give skydiving a try, and your response is to serenade me with a bunch of bullshit excuses about why you can’t or won’t, then go fuck yourself, because you won’t be doing it to me. Same thing with concerts and shows. I go out all once the pit opens up, even if I get my ass kicked in there. Sometimes I just need to lose ,twelfth, amd there’s a feral side of me which I’m not going to suppress at a time like that. If you can’t get with it, take a fucking hike.Or if I start saying “Bloody Mary” into a mirror to see how you’ll react and you get all squeamish, forget it.

I don’t need lavish gifts, I don’t need copious amounts of money to be spent on me. But what I do require seems to not be particularly easy to find.

Raziel
10-31-2020, 06:36 AM
Yeah, always (and I've said this before) take her to see like, the Art Museum, or (in Saint Louis, at least) the Planetarium, the Zoo, the Science Center, Six Flags, Miniature Golf (this is a good one, you can "help her with her swing", by wrapping your arms around her), or whatever, something the last guy didn't do. If you like her, it helps. Whatever it is, it needs to be interesting and fun.

That Meremac Caverns Girl, she just was used to dinner and a movie. She was blown away by Meremac Caverns. She thought I was the GOD of dates. It works!

One last thing to add (It's already been liked, so I cannot edit), tickle her MIND not just her body. Make sure she knows you value HER, not just her body.

Bahuba
10-31-2020, 10:25 AM
You want to know what's crazy? I shouldn't say this, but as you get older, anyway for my generation, you are less focused on the
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/cute-cartoon-little-white-cat-girl-big-pink-bow-beautiful-girlish-illustration-background-68384781.jpg
and more focused on connection stuff. I finally went on a date a few weeks ago, drove to the Keys, and the woman I was with put her bare feet on the dash. Me to myself: "I really miss that". Lots of women around my age will have sex if you're polite and groomed, but they don't trust you or let loose for a much longer time.

whirlerz
10-31-2020, 10:39 AM
I do that (put bare feet on dash) all the time.!

& I'm in chilly midwest..

Mmmm, the Keys8)

slowpoke
10-31-2020, 10:53 AM
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/27/x-ray-injuries-feet-on-car-dashboard/


You surely know that riding with feet up on the dashboard is unsafe. The injuries in a crash could be severe, and even a minor accident in which airbags deploy could have dire consequences. But if you can't convince the person who rides shotgun with you, this image should do the trick.

The X-ray, which, understandably, is careening around the internet today, shows the aftermath of a car crash in which a young woman in Wales was riding with feet up. One femur is snapped, while one hip is broken in the socket and the other has been dislocated far from where it should be.

Police who released the X-ray described the woman's injuries as "life changing."

whirlerz
10-31-2020, 11:31 AM
Yea, I only do it at stop lights

slowpoke
10-31-2020, 12:32 PM
https://cdn77-pic.xvideos-cdn.com/videos/thumbs169ll/cc/45/43/cc45431af8358a8eb04c20acf3a7d40d/cc45431af8358a8eb04c20acf3a7d40d.23.jpg

whirlerz
10-31-2020, 01:35 PM
Go look @ the latest Snake post, w/2headed snake^!

Bahuba
10-31-2020, 09:38 PM
I wasn't aware, thanks for the heads up. Still, that anecdote was meant to illustrate a larger point, let's not lose that