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audrey_k
07-25-2014, 04:38 PM
^I find them different because there's no agreement between the two parties in the latter that "I'm only going to have sex with you if you pay for my dinner" nor is the reason that the woman is sleeping with the man because he's buying her dinner. I had sex with someone on Thursday (not a client) and we went out for drinks, but I wasn't going to NOT sleep with him if he didn't take me out for drinks. With SB's there is an agreement, there will be no sex unless you pay for x or give me gifts, so I do consider them sex workers, even if they aren't being given cash. I mean, that's how I would differentiate between a client and a lover-- is there an agreement for material goods, and am I only sleeping with them for this purpose? No? OK, then it's not a client.

Kellydancer
07-25-2014, 05:17 PM
Yeah true but if she agreed to it then it becomes a bit murky imo. If she says "if you pay I'll sleep with you" versus it just happens. From what I understand this logic has prevented some call girls from not being arrested because they claimed the amount paid just included companionship and the sex was extra.

audrey_k
07-25-2014, 05:26 PM
Well that's what every call girl from the begin of time has claimed to LE to avoid being arrested, every agency and independent website says "any amount of £ agreed between two parties is for companionship only."

I don't know, for me it's not murky at all, I'm always pretty clear on why I'm sleeping with someone, if it's for financial or emotional purposes.

Aniela
07-27-2014, 09:07 PM
To be honest, I threw that in just to make it balanced (4 terms / 4 terms). I was going to use provider, but for some reason it doesn't seem the same lol. I do know that there are colleges in Japan where a girl can go to become a geisha. So obviously they are at the very least educated. Whether or not sex is involved could be a case by case basis, no?



Again, kinda like strippers vs prostitutes -- whole other animal. But point conceded, like strippers who actually just strip -- case by case rather than sex w/ customers being part of the job.

audrey_k
08-01-2014, 04:55 PM
So I had a client who showed up today and I just got a HORRIBLE vibe from him and wanted him gone, he had screwed up on how much money to bring so that was my out to get rid of him and once he left to go to the cash point I texted him and told him not to come back.

That didn't sit so well with him and he hurled a bunch of insults at me until I blocked him. Most of which were "fucking whore" "slut" "fucking ugly ho" etc. I think this is why I find the words ho/whore/slut so offensive, this is when people use them-- to put someone down, not to describe sex workers. He didn't text me 'PROSTITUTE!" 'ESCORT!" "HOOKER!"

indiegirl
08-01-2014, 09:37 PM
So I was reading a thread that a client started on me with a review and this guy made comment in which he called me a hooker-- it wasn't derogatory or anything, he just used that word instead of escort ("strangely she doesn't accept 50 pound notes, first hooker I've ever heard say that"). I can not tell you how horrified I was to see that word next to my name, it made me REALLY upset. I have never referred to myself that way and have never heard a client use that word around me.

I always refer to myself as an 'escort' and the idea of being a hooker or a prostitute is really upsetting to me, but I don't know exactly why. I don't know if there really is a difference between being a hooker and an escort, if a hooker is someone who charges a low rate, is unattractive/uneducated, and offers a variety of degrading services for cheap, or if it's just a slang word for an escort? I don't know if I'm just kidding myself and psychologically trying to avoid feeling guilty/dirty about selling sex for money and 'escort' is the equivalent of 'exotic dancer'?

I have never felt guilty or dirty about anything that I have done as an escort, I realized yesterday that I've probably had sex with near to 75 men now and it really didn't bother me at all because it's just business. And I have never felt upset or anything after seeing a client unless there was an issue, nor have I ever felt bad after a day of maybe having sex with four different people, just tired. But seeing that word next to my name... ugh, that really bothered me.

I know it bothers some girls being called a prostitute because they prefer a nicer euphemism to make themselves feel better & more glamorous being in this line of work. I honestly don't care what they call me as long as I'm getting paid in full and are safe to meet. At the end of the day, they are John's and we are prostitutes. If you're having sex with these guys and one of them ends up being LE, they won't be arresting you for "escorting charges"....

dpacrkk
08-02-2014, 09:14 PM
No difference in meaning, only connotation.

P.S.:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW0NtG7X8Ys

audrey_k
08-03-2014, 03:27 PM
If you're having sex with these guys and one of them ends up being LE, they won't be arresting you for "escorting charges"....

No I'd be arrested for 'solicitation' but I wouldn't call myself a 'solicitor' either ;-)

Cheo_D
08-07-2014, 02:30 PM
Over at the college-pornstar thread there has arisen a parallel debate as to celebs and showbiz people who "date" with an implicit quid-pro-quo that ends up to their advantage and whether THAT is "escorting". I mentioned in it that it seems like our culture has since the distant past decided that she it comes to sex, getting actual direct "consideration in return for services rendered" is the realm of sluts and whores, but that using sex as a currency for "winning friends and influencing people" is OK, even courtly.

In the end, the name-calling is often a way to redirect attention, to say no, it's THAT OTHER person who's a so-and-so.

GlamourRouge
08-08-2014, 05:32 PM
IMO, the only reason this is ~*a thing*~ that and needs differentiation, is because the internet came out of no where and changed how providers do business. The internet is a huge backbone of the sexwork industry now, but wasn't in like, the early 90s and before.

Back then, you were either a "hooker" aka a "streetwalker" or a high-end escort who knew a $$$ agency or wealthy contacts... and the latter was mostly reserved for models or working actresses. There was no internet, there was no middle ground. Only low or high. No mid-range escort. Even girls who posted in the newspaper would have absolutely no way to screen, and that's risky as hell and not exactly a selective high-end service like an "escort" would provide.

So mid-range escorts, I suppose, struggle to define their differentiation between "hooker" and "escort" I guess. If you're not "streetwalking" then I think you're fairly safe and most likely not a low end provider. And if you're screening, you're already providing a higher end (or mid-range) service because you can "afford" to be picky. That's how I'd define the difference now.

"Streetwalking" is where "escorting" got its bad rep from (because there were no papertrails aka websites for high end escorts back then without the internet), but that's honestly probably now the minority of providers thanks to the internet.

Moxxy Minx
08-09-2014, 05:01 AM
I am an escort = a prostitute = a hooker = a whore. And I like it!