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devil_himself
07-24-2014, 02:01 PM
Well, I do apologize for the attacks. What I was describing is a trend of trolls, though. If you explore the internet a lot, you know what I mean, and I still think you may be one.
However, you've made it clear that we can't sway your mind, so keep thinking what you want and enjoying the product we sell (which is a fantasy). If you ask her out and she says yes, then more power to you. All I can say is don't be surprised if she says no or gives an unclear answer to keep you hanging and coming back with the hopes of getting a yes.
Well I've been thinking about why my thread has gotten such a negative reaction and my theory about it is it must be resentment out of experiences in the workplace. I realize all of you here deal with constant rejection at work. I imagine there's quite a bit of dismissal over your desirability, so I'm guessing that has caused a certain amount of bitterness towards men like myself. That's what I think, anyway.
SweetJulia
07-24-2014, 02:05 PM
Well I've been thinking about why my thread has gotten such a negative reaction and my theory about it is it must be resentment out of experiences in the workplace. I realize all of you here deal with constant rejection at work. I imagine there's quite a bit of dismissal over your desirability, so I'm guessing that has caused a certain amount of bitterness towards men like myself. That's what I think, anyway.
LMAO wow. We don't care about being dismissed at work, if you don't spend money on us, someone else will. There's no shortage of money or customers. That's why we do this. Money. Speaking of money, this site is a place we can be honest without it affecting our money, like it would if we were on the clock right now. We were just trying to give you an anatomy lesson, since you asked for opinions.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 02:09 PM
LMAO wow. We don't care about being dismissed at work, if you don't spend money on us, someone else will. There's no shortage of money or customers. That's why we do this. Money. Speaking of money, this site is a place we can be honest without it affecting our money, like it would if we were on the clock right now. We were just trying to give you an anatomy lesson, since you asked for opinions.
Well, I don't know if I agree with that. There are quite a few dancers who make no money and, looking around this board, there are also quite a few threads complaining how little money there is to be made. Let me ask you, how much do you make per night on average?
SexedUpCat
07-24-2014, 02:14 PM
Well I've been thinking about why my thread has gotten such a negative reaction and my theory about it is it must be resentment out of experiences in the workplace. I realize all of you here deal with constant rejection at work. I imagine there's quite a bit of dismissal over your desirability, so I'm guessing that has caused a certain amount of bitterness towards men like myself. That's what I think, anyway.
I can see how it'd come across that way, but you have to look at the flip side. To be honest, I've never had so many men tell me how much they want me in my entire life. The only rejection I get is not wanting a dance, but I've had men constantly telling me how sexy I am, saying things like "Oh what I would do with you..." while I dance, asking me out or for my number...the attention is ridiculous. My confidence is constantly growing. With that, though, it gets tiring when men are constantly trying to do things like grab my breasts or touch my vagina without permission. When they won't stop trying to get my number and when I say no, they go "why not?" and start whining. They keep asking me to have sex with them for money (fine for the girls that do this, but I don't, so I'm not comfortable with it).
I have bitterness towards men like yourself because it's men like you who won't stop asking me out or trying to get my personal information or touching me. It's irritating. I get you're into it, but I don't like being constantly prodded and groped. I tell you the boundaries, and I expect them to be respected.
You see, it isn't constant rejection. If it were, we wouldn't be making the amounts of money that we do, so we wouldn't be in the business. It's us constantly having to reject men and play the delicate game of providing entertainment while drawing boundaries and enforcing them. From my experience, it's men that are incredibly insistent that they must turn me on and I must want them that make some of the worst customers because they lose all respect for me and my wishes in their own manly manliness.
I'm not saying you're the jerk that does all of this (though I really hope you had full permission to touch her vagina), but most men who behave this way are bad customers. They also tend to not tip because our own "enjoyment" is tip enough... It's frustrating.
Do you want to know my frequent thought while I'm dancing? It's usually along the lines of: Is the DJ making this song longer? Wow, my thighs burn. Dancing is like taking several aerobic classes in a row. Damn! My feet hurt. How long until these shoes break in because I'm sick of all these bloody blisters. Keep sexy... Come on, don't let the customer know that this is a workout. Smile. Eye contact. Ignore your feet and muscles. Whew. Song over. "Aww, I was just getting into it...let's do another!"
Sorry to break the fantasy here, but there's nothing sexual there for me.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 02:28 PM
though I really hope you had full permission to touch her vagina
??? I didn't ask permission but I didn't think I had to. There have been girls who've taken my hand and had me masturbate them, which brings me to another point, I suppose. Some dancers get really into dances so I think it's fair to say some of them indeed get turned on.
safado
07-24-2014, 02:36 PM
??? I didn't ask permission but I didn't think I had to. There have been girls who've taken my hand and had me masturbate them, which brings me to another point, I suppose. Some dancers get really into dances so I think it's fair to say some of them indeed get turned on.
http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/gifs/Antonio-Banderas-computer-you-got-me-yospos-reaction-13677939419.gif
SweetJulia
07-24-2014, 02:37 PM
Well, I don't know if I agree with that. There are quite a few dancers who make no money and, looking around this board, there are also quite a few threads complaining how little money there is to be made. Let me ask you, how much do you make per night on average?
1-I stopped dancing cuz of grabby customers, like ones who think they can touch your cunt without permission, I cam now.
2-While it's none of your business, just as much as I did stripping.
Anyway, so it doesn't look like I'm threadjacking, please DO let us know what she says if you ask her out, this is gonna be good.
Kellydancer
07-24-2014, 02:44 PM
When men tried to touch me when I was dancing I smacked their hand and said no. Kind of sad that grown men need to be treated like little kids but some have to be.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 02:48 PM
1-I stopped dancing cuz of grabby customers, like ones who think they can touch your cunt without permission, I cam now.
2-While it's none of your business, just as much as I did stripping.
Anyway, so it doesn't look like I'm threadjacking, please DO let us know what she says if you ask her out, this is gonna be good.
May I see your cam profile?
SexedUpCat
07-24-2014, 02:49 PM
??? I didn't ask permission but I didn't think I had to. There have been girls who've taken my hand and had me masturbate them, which brings me to another point, I suppose. Some dancers get really into dances so I think it's fair to say some of them indeed get turned on.
38345
Silly troll.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 02:50 PM
38345
Silly troll.
Everything I wrote in that post is 100% true.
SavannaS
07-24-2014, 02:52 PM
??? I didn't ask permission but I didn't think I had to. There have been girls who've taken my hand and had me masturbate them, which brings me to another point, I suppose. Some dancers get really into dances so I think it's fair to say some of them indeed get turned on.
38346
You god damn troll, that or you go to some crusty ass strip clubs that double as whorehouses.
I've told you a perfectly good reason why what happened to you happened, and my post is the only one you've ignored. I don't think that's coincidence.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 02:55 PM
38346
You god damn troll, that or you go to some crusty ass strip clubs that double as whorehouses.
I've told you a perfectly good reason why what happened to you happened, and my post is the only one you've ignored. I don't think that's coincidence.
I didn't reply to you because I already addressed similar points in other posts.
Luna66
07-24-2014, 02:55 PM
Well I've been thinking about why my thread has gotten such a negative reaction and my theory about it is it must be resentment out of experiences in the workplace. I realize all of you here deal with constant rejection at work. I imagine there's quite a bit of dismissal over your desirability, so I'm guessing that has caused a certain amount of bitterness towards men like myself. That's what I think, anyway.
38347
SexedUpCat
07-24-2014, 02:57 PM
Everything I wrote in that post is 100% true.
I was speaking in reference to not thinking you needed permission to grope strangers. The only person I've met who truly believed groping people without permission was OK was mentally handicapped. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just a troll.
SweetJulia
07-24-2014, 02:58 PM
May I see your cam profile?
Yeah, like that's gonna happen.
SexedUpCat
07-24-2014, 02:58 PM
38347
Ahh! Cat!
38348
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 03:03 PM
I was speaking in reference to not thinking you needed permission to grope strangers. The only person I've met who truly believed groping people without permission was OK was mentally handicapped. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just a troll.
I'm not a troll, just confused about why you thought I should have asked. What I meant was that it was clear to me that heavy contact was allowed at that club, which is why I didn't think I needed permission.
whirlerz
07-24-2014, 03:07 PM
Sigh* *wonders where Yoda is??
Aniela
07-24-2014, 03:26 PM
I'm not a troll, just confused about why you thought I should have asked. What I meant was that it was clear to me that heavy contact was allowed at that club, which is why I didn't think I needed permission.
If you ever find yourself wondering why a dancer would flip out on a customer at work, try checking a reflective surface. You don't listen when the answers you get from girls who DO THIS FOR A LIVING don't match what you want to hear, & apparently you have no concept of personal boundaries.
Desirability issues? Please -- the girls w/ 'desirability issues' are the ones who encourage outright sex acts bc they are too lazy, greedy or desperate to make $$ any other way, but don't have the balls to jump full-on into escorting.
'I don't think I need to ask b4 grabbing a girl's privates!'? Seriously? Sounds like you're less of a club hound than a brothel hound if that kind of contact is so normal that asking permission wouldn't even be considered. Just going by your posts in this thread, you sound like the kind of customer who would rationalise sexual assault by saying, 'She was wet, so OBVIOUSLY she wanted it!'
safado
07-24-2014, 03:27 PM
Sigh* *wonders where Yoda is?? I think he is on Dagobah training Luke.
SexedUpCat
07-24-2014, 03:29 PM
I think he is on Dagobah training Luke.
I laughed way too hard at that :D
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 03:29 PM
If you ever find yourself wondering why a dancer would flip out on a customer at work, try checking a reflective surface. You don't listen when the answers you get from girls who DO THIS FOR A LIVING don't match what you want to hear, & apparently you have no concept of personal boundaries.
Desirability issues? Please -- the girls w/ 'desirability issues' are the ones who encourage outright sex acts bc they are too lazy, greedy or desperate to make $$ any other way, but don't have the balls to jump full-on into escorting.
'I don't think I need to ask b4 grabbing a girl's privates!'? Seriously? Sounds like you're less of a club hound than a brothel hound if that kind of contact is so normal that asking permission wouldn't even be considered. Just going by your posts in this thread, you sound like the kind of customer who would rationalise sexual assault by saying, 'She was wet, so OBVIOUSLY she wanted it!'
My apologies. I just didn't think it was a big deal. Next time I'm there I will ask permission.
JoJoX
07-24-2014, 03:52 PM
[email protected] OP and replies....
Ok, first of all...you come here to ask us a question right and what do we think, right??? We give you legit answers and then you refuse to believe them? Why do guys on this forum do that, I dunno...
Secondly, let's say she WAS turned on...doesn't mean she's into you. I get turned on by MYSELF being sexy, dancing sexy, being in the atmosphere.
And DUDE, again, WHY DO GUYS COME HERE, ask us questions to answers WE WOULD KNOW and because it's something they they cannot accept THEY GET SO DEFENSIVE AND HOSTILE.
If you don't want to hear the truth, then keep imagining that this girl is sooooooooooooooo into you that she got wet but then don't come back here telling us a sob story how this girl used you for your money really wasn't into after all- BECAUSE WE TOLD YOU.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 04:02 PM
[email protected] OP and replies....
Ok, first of all...you come here to ask us a question right and what do we think, right??? We give you legit answers and then you refuse to believe them? Why do guys on this forum do that, I dunno...
Secondly, let's say she WAS turned on...doesn't mean she's into you. I get turned on by MYSELF being sexy, dancing sexy, being in the atmosphere.
And DUDE, again, WHY DO GUYS COME HERE, ask us questions to answers WE WOULD KNOW and because it's something they they cannot accept THEY GET SO DEFENSIVE AND HOSTILE.
If you don't want to hear the truth, then keep imagining that this girl is sooooooooooooooo into you that she got wet but then don't come back here telling us a sob story how this girl used you for your money really wasn't into after all- BECAUSE WE TOLD YOU.
If you're wondering why guys might not always take your word, well, let me try to illustrate my point with this
As the title makes clear, it's about dancers' experiences getting turned down by clubs. Reading through the posts, there are all sorts of posts talking about how they got rejected because the club was full, they did not like her tattoos, she's too tall, she's too short, the manager was an idiot, etc. All sorts of reasons, except of course, the most obvious one. Do you get what the point I'm making?
JoJoX
07-24-2014, 04:11 PM
If you're wondering why guys might not always take your word, well, let me try to illustrate my point with this
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?143097-Have-you-ever-been-turned-down-from-a-club
As the title makes clear, it's about dancers' experiences getting turned down by clubs. Reading through the posts, there are all sorts of posts talking about how they got rejected because the club was full, they did not like her tattoos, she's too tall, she's too short, the manager was an idiot, etc. All sorts of reasons, except of course, the most obvious one. Do you get what the point I'm making?
Ok.....how does this relate?? It is very clear that you cannot handle the truth. "Oh these girls are telling that chick wasn't into me...it MUST be because they get rejected a lot." I mean come on...this is sooo obvious. You totally created reasoning in your head why we gave you answers you did not want to hear instead of accepting them. You don't have to FULLY accept, but CONSIDER the options.
And if you can't take our word THEN WHY CREATE THE THREAD IN THE FIRST PLACE?!
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 04:17 PM
Ok.....how does this relate?? It is very clear that you cannot handle the truth. "Oh these girls are telling that chick wasn't into me...it MUST be because they get rejected a lot." I mean come on...this is sooo obvious. You totally created reasoning in your head why we gave you answers you did not want to hear instead of accepting them. You don't have to FULLY accept, but CONSIDER the options.
And if you can't take our word THEN WHY CREATE THE THREAD IN THE FIRST PLACE?!
You know full well how that post relates. Looks like I've now backed you into a corner with tangible evidence.
JoJoX
07-24-2014, 04:22 PM
You know full well how that post relates. Looks like I've now backed you into a corner with tangible evidence.
I also happen to know full well about guys who can't handle rejection....which is funny because you claim WE can't handle rejection to back up a totally diff subject. lmao.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 04:26 PM
I also happen to know full well about guys who can't handle rejection....which is funny because you claim WE can't handle rejection to back up a totally diff subject. lmao.
I can handle rejection just fine, although I see no rejection in relation to this thread.
SimoneGray
07-24-2014, 04:34 PM
Erm...OP...How exactly does being rejected relate to what you were saying?
Also, as has been said, it is possible to get turned on by ONESELF...maybe your girl had an exhibitionist streak and it had more to do with that and less to do with you.
You also said that you turned her down and then accepted again. She probably felt a rush of power over you because she had gotten you to capitulate and successfully extracted money from you. trust me on this, that rush is powerful, but it does not make the guy any more desirable.
Also, when you dance, you get sweaty and so do your nether regions...women just happen to produce more moisture down there, so don't flatter yourself.
JoJoX
07-24-2014, 04:35 PM
I can handle rejection just fine, although I see no rejection in relation to this thread.
Oh really? Because you're the one who bought up the topic of rejection....If you can't handle truth/rejection why did you say "Looks like I backed you into a corner with tangible evidence." this tells me that you're delusional and would say ANYTHING to make yourself seem correct.....How about saying something like "Hmmm maybe you ladies are right because you do after all have vaginas and I'm a dude who doesn't, it is POSSIBLE but also possible she's totally into me." I would of had respect for you, but for now, you're just some dude who can't accept reality who creates reasoning in his head on why he's always right.
And because of that, there is no reasoning with you, therefore I am going to stop now and get to work and make big bucks by pretending my vagina gets wet for my customers. See ya.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 04:38 PM
How about saying something like "Hmmm maybe you ladies are right because you do after all have vaginas and I'm a dude who doesn't, it is POSSIBLE but also possible she's totally into me."
Which is what I've been getting across in this thread.
SimoneGray
07-24-2014, 04:38 PM
And because of that, there is no reasoning with you, therefore I am going to stop now and get to work and make big bucks by pretending my vagina gets wet for my customers. See ya.
You go girl!!
Men like this who never learn are the reason why we keep making money. So keep on, by all means dude.
devil_himself
07-24-2014, 04:42 PM
Erm...OP...How exactly does being rejected relate to what you were saying?
I was accused of not listening to people who have replied to this thread. In turn, I posted that thread about rejection. Read that thread and hopefully you will see the point I'm making.
SimoneGray
07-24-2014, 04:47 PM
^^ If any girl was bitter to you because of rejection, it would not be because of you. If girls do get rejected, the natural thing will be to upset perhaps with the management of the club, not the patrons...
I did read that thread, it refers exactly to this, and not them being happy in any way about customers etc, which is what you are in this sitch. If you were a club manager, you could have the opinion that you have. But even then, as a man, you would still not really know how the girls felt arousal wise about the customers, you'd only know how they felt if they got a job opportunity taken away by you.
SweetJulia
07-24-2014, 04:53 PM
Which is what I've been getting across in this thread.
No, you haven't-you've dismissed every biological explanation we've offered that isn't her being turned on, questioned the character of someone who says a garter full of fifties makes her wet, decided we're just grumpy cuz we face constant rejection, and had the balls to ask me how much I make and who I am in cam land. Oh yeah, not to mention saying you didn't think you had to ask for permission to finger a stranger.
SavannaS
07-24-2014, 06:03 PM
This is probably more attention than OP has/will ever get in a real club ladies lol
ushar
07-24-2014, 06:13 PM
Whoa, this thread took a nasty turn!
The OP has heard our theories and he has his own theory. Let him test it out. If she's into him as much as he thinks, then she'll agree to meet outside the club. If he cuts off the financial incentive and she still sees him outside of work, then he'll have his answer. End of story.
I don't think it'll go down like that but hey, that's just my personal opinion.
safado
07-24-2014, 06:58 PM
@devil_himself, when the dancer wet herself did she happen to be singing along to this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv-34w8kGPM
audritwo
07-24-2014, 11:24 PM
This thread...
https://d2g892zuoe3k49.cloudfront.net/50154716b2d03c2f0d000073/736892062_700.gif
Also, OP, please tell us more about ourselves. You know us soooooo well! You are truly Casanova!
SimoneGray
07-25-2014, 11:42 AM
^^ That gif perfectly describes this..its one of the most entertaining on here so far.
lurkingtitties
07-25-2014, 12:00 PM
and told her to drop dead when she had the nerve to ask for a tip).
I stopped reading after this...
bem401
07-25-2014, 01:47 PM
After a year and a half of being a customer and several years of being a friend, I think i can confidently say the girls pretty much cannot stand any of the guys in the club. Regulars are just thoase who serve a repeated purpose.
Raina Shine
07-25-2014, 02:12 PM
Ok admittedly I only read the first few pages of this thread and lol'd a lil. But I have to respond. I'm not a dancer, but a camgirl. Not sure if anyone brought up this aspect but...when I need to go on cam and be sexy I turn myself on first! Watch porn, think of my man, fantasies etc. She may have been legitimately turned on, but not necessarily by you. But you never know. Who knows maybe he's a hottie (throw down a pic if you're confident) and definitely let us know if you got that date! ;)
FasaCorp
07-25-2014, 02:14 PM
If all men were educated properly about the female body, then we would never have threads as downright entertaining as this one.
And dancers would be making less money.
I say "no" to sex education! ::)
audritwo
07-25-2014, 06:12 PM
If all men were educated properly about the female body, then we would never have threads as downright entertaining as this one.
And dancers would be making less money.
I say "no" to sex education! ::)
Yeah, sometimes I would like them to know so they understand can't go any deeper because of a cervix. Or that the vagina is basically a moist cavern most of the time.
But then again, fuck it. "Yeah baby my pussy is wet!!!"
Vyanka
07-27-2014, 09:34 PM
Recently I had an encounter with a stripper and I'm not sure what to think of her. She chatted with me and asked for a dance and I said no after taking a look at her. But later that night she got on stage and couldn't keep my eyes off her after she took off her bra. Her boobs were huge and real. After her dance was over she asked me for a dance again and I agreed. It was during the dance that I wondered if she was enjoying the dance more than me. After a couple of dances, I reached down there and to my surprise, she was soaking wet. Now, I realize that from reading this board, most people here will be inclined to say no if you ask about a dancer having genuine interest in a customer. I agree this is true at times (I previously encountered a bullshitter who kept trying to feed me this shit about how much she liked me and how she had never met a guy like me before and how she wanted to give me her phone number...fortunately I wasn't stupid enough to fall for the bullshit from such a blatant wolf in sheep's clothing and told her to drop dead when she had the nerve to ask for a tip). But what about when a stripper starts getting wet? I know a lot of strippers try to hustle customers, but moisture isn't something that you can control.
She is SELLING a fantasy. Stop getting mad calling it BS. It's pure entertainment.
You're a huge asshole for crossing her boundaries and telling her to drop dead. Wtf??? Seriously???
Also, wtf are you even looking at other parts of the site for? That shit shouldn't concern you. It's not for you.
amberlly
07-28-2014, 01:23 AM
Maybe she was turned on. Maybe it was all genuine.
BUT touching dancers privately to check is NOT ok.
It would be like me running a facial recognition test on you to bring up all your private information from the security cameras when you walked in. Just to see if you were telling me the truth or some fake back story. Girls gotta know these things - can't just dance for anyone.
Same deal. Ask first.
Warped
07-28-2014, 10:14 AM
Of course she was uncontrollably aroused by you! Now, go back and give her all of your money right now!!! Remember, it can take us a very long time to feel comfortable enough to go out with a customer, so be sure to keep going in over and over and over
devil_himself
07-28-2014, 05:58 PM
She is SELLING a fantasy. Stop getting mad calling it BS. It's pure entertainment.
You're a huge asshole for crossing her boundaries and telling her to drop dead. Wtf??? Seriously???
Also, wtf are you even looking at other parts of the site for? That shit shouldn't concern you. It's not for you.
I don't feel the least bit bad about telling her to drop dead. Some strippers want to make money, yes, but others are just evil.