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MsMeta
07-04-2017, 01:19 PM
The weirdest thing happened to me today. I was on vchat and at exactly 4 hours on the phone, it kicked me off. I was given a 1 minute warning which I thought was for the guy but nope, it hung up on me! Has this happened to anyone else? I had started at about 11:30 so I was on the .60 rate - maybe that's why? Do they kick you off so you have to call back in at a lower rate?

kortneykay
07-04-2017, 01:47 PM
Wanted to update that TTM did contact me fairly quickly and issued my $50 bonus plus the PVT commission, though I thought I was in pvt but really wasn't. I really do enjoy the customer service they offer. SM and sites like it should take note.

Staci
07-04-2017, 02:05 PM
Wanted to update that TTM did contact me fairly quickly and issued my $50 bonus. I really do enjoy the customer service they offer. SM and sites like it should take note.
Did they offer an explanation?
In your case, you knew the caller had joined under you and spent at least $50 - but what if you had not known? Would you not have received it, or did they say they were aware and they just hadn't posted it yet?
I have over a hundred signups, but few payouts. I wish the payout percentage were higher.

kortneykay
07-04-2017, 02:17 PM
Did they offer an explanation?
In your case, you knew the caller had joined under you and spent at least $50 - but what if you had not known? Would you not have received it, or did they say they were aware and they just hadn't posted it yet?
I have over a hundred signups, but few payouts. I wish the payout percentage were higher.

Staci, they didn't mention anything, really. The agent tried to explain how to use the referral links, but I explained to her that even with the tutorial, talkers are taking the links provided under promotional tools, and if those links aren't working; that's a TTM issue. They just paid out.

That's the issue I have. Green eyes said you can see 'affiliate' under the contacts. I've never seen it or perhaps clicked on any clients of mine who are affiliates and online at the time.

This is why I think they need to tag affiliates a lot better. I brought over a client Feb of 2016. TTM shows just referred members and sign ups by numbers. This needs to be fixed ASAP.

I noticed the client actually signed up in Sep, but I still have proof of linking him. Since he keeps his same name, and hit me up months later and spent money on me, I believe he signed up under me, but like you said, there's no way to tell. They can say "Well he found us another way." and yet he still somehow found my girl on there.

I'm sorry you're also having issues with affiliate sales. It just seems a lot of these companies know they're losing a chunk of money, and would rather steal than pay out. I'm noticing a lot of affiliate links being forwarded to the main site on a lot of companies. Like with SM, we should be seeing our affiliate name/code at the top of client's accounts.

I noticed one of his print screens via mobile just said TTM in the address bar, which is probably why my code was never used. That's trickery. And I'm sure if 7/11 of my people signed up, if you're pushing hundreds you should be getting a LOT more. My guess, and I may be wrong- is that they are bouncing clients off of your link, to the main site. This is exactly what IML did, and what seemed to have happened (purposely, or not).

They did email me the tutorial, so from now on I'll just add the profile number and see if that makes a difference. I'm just perturbed as to why their own promotional links for talkers aren't working like they should.

Staci
07-04-2017, 03:24 PM
They did email me the tutorial, so from now on I'll just add the profile number and see if that makes a difference. I'm just perturbed as to why their own promotional links for talkers aren't working like they should.
Oh, okay. I think the only link under the promotional tools that contains the affiliate link is the one that states to use that button to earn $50 when guys join and spend $50. The other two links on that page link to your profile, but doesn't contain the affiliate link.

sarahlove
07-04-2017, 11:20 PM
Oh, okay. I think the only link under the promotional tools that contains the affiliate link is the one that states to use that button to earn $50 when guys join and spend $50. The other two links on that page link to your profile, but doesn't contain the affiliate link.

That is the link that I use too. Is that the correct one? I would like to be sure. I like their payout better then waiting 90 for Niteflirt.

kortneykay
07-05-2017, 01:57 AM
That is the link that I use too. Is that the correct one? I would like to be sure. I like their payout better then waiting 90 for Niteflirt.

I think you ladies are right. I think it's just uninformative as to what the short URL is for. Of course talkers who know HTML but it legit appears like a shorter version of the longer button links. Especially since some talkers don't have actual websites to place buttons on.

It's confusing as some guys consider long drawn out links, spam. They should just delete the short URL altogether. Or, just include it as a text link for the longer promotional button. My problem was I definitely used it before and had sign ups. I'll just use the longer code in the future.

Snowy0Star
07-05-2017, 09:13 AM
The weirdest thing happened to me today. I was on vchat and at exactly 4 hours on the phone, it kicked me off. I was given a 1 minute warning which I thought was for the guy but nope, it hung up on me! Has this happened to anyone else? I had started at about 11:30 so I was on the .60 rate - maybe that's why? Do they kick you off so you have to call back in at a lower rate?

No they always kick you out at 4 hours its happens to me everyonce in a while . Normally after 2-3 hours i need a little break and i hang up and check my money then go back in .

Kandigrace
07-11-2017, 12:33 PM
48513

Pure bullshit!!! Its the same damn prices that we have been working for a a different time in the day. Its not even that busy on the chatline after 7pm. Its definitely not busy on the chatline after midnight cause obviously people are sleeping. I am sick of struggling to make barely $25 a week on this shitty ass site when i should be making a whole lot more. I will work throughout the day but i am not risking my sleep to get something that i know is not going to work out. I really think that the uptops think that we are idiots and that we cant see we are being fucked over. I thank god that I have extra eggs cause TTM is just a hot mess.

kortneykay
07-11-2017, 01:22 PM
48513

Pure bullshit!!! Its the same damn prices that we have been working for a a different time in the day. Its not even that busy on the chatline after 7pm. Its definitely not busy on the chatline after midnight cause obviously people are sleeping. I am sick of struggling to make barely $25 a week on this shitty ass site when i should be making a whole lot more. I will work throughout the day but i am not risking my sleep to get something that i know is not going to work out. I really think that the uptops think that we are idiots and that we cant see we are being fucked over. I thank god that I have extra eggs cause TTM is just a hot mess.


I agree about this scheme they keep coming up with. It's too low no matter how they spin it. And I really don't feel like it's necessary that they add the total rate. The first thing you notice when you see it is "Oh, wow, they're paying OUT $0.60 per min, today!" Why don't they just list your actual rate of $0.20-30 per min or what not. Jeez, these sites were offering $0.30 back in 2008.

I'm not sure if you have the new rate, or the old rate but have you created multiple characters on the actual site with photos, a voice greeting, and $1.99-2.99 prices? Do you accept texts? What about pic sets, audio stories? Doing so should make you at least $25-$50 per day.

Staci
07-11-2017, 01:26 PM
Pure bullshit!!! Its the same damn prices that we have been working for a a different time in the day. Its not even that busy on the chatline after 7pm. Its definitely not busy on the chatline after midnight cause obviously people are sleeping. I am sick of struggling to make barely $25 a week on this shitty ass site when i should be making a whole lot more. I will work throughout the day but i am not risking my sleep to get something that i know is not going to work out. I really think that the uptops think that we are idiots and that we cant see we are being fucked over. I thank god that I have extra eggs cause TTM is just a hot mess.
TTM gives us a number of opportunities to make money that has nothing to do with working their chatline.

I can understand if you find their chatline rates insulting, but you can work on TTM without ever connecting to their chatline.

You may set your own rates on their phone sex platform and take calls through TTM.

Jassi
07-12-2017, 10:09 AM
I have a question, if anyone knows--I do the direct connect calls when I am logged in and available on my profile-do any of you experience a call fail? I'm not sure if the customer is hanging up or if it is the system-I'm going to contact support about it--wanted to see if anyone else does the direct connect option. I don't get those calls that often, but I do on occasion

Staci
07-12-2017, 10:21 AM
I have a question, if anyone knows--I do the direct connect calls when I am logged in and available on my profile-do any of you experience a call fail? I'm not sure if the customer is hanging up or if it is the system-I'm going to contact support about it--wanted to see if anyone else does the direct connect option. I don't get those calls that often, but I do on occasion
I'm not certain, but I think with the direct connect calls, guys are just choosing to speak with the next available operator - so if you don't have the voice they are looking for when you answer, I think they probably just push a button and go to the next operator.

sarahlove
07-12-2017, 10:38 AM
I agree about this scheme they keep coming up with. It's too low no matter how they spin it. And I really don't feel like it's necessary that they add the total rate. The first thing you notice when you see it is "Oh, wow, they're paying OUT $0.60 per min, today!" Why don't they just list your actual rate of $0.20-30 per min or what not. Jeez, these sites were offering $0.30 back in 2008.

I'm not sure if you have the new rate, or the old rate but have you created multiple characters on the actual site with photos, a voice greeting, and $1.99-2.99 prices? Do you accept texts? What about pic sets, audio stories? Doing so should make you at least $25-$50 per day.

1. I have multiple characters (3 I do in the AM and 3 I do in the PM) I have photos and a voice greeting on each one. I am at $1.99 on each profile
2. I LOVE texts. I get texts all the time. I like that I get texts when I am at the pool. lol it is a low rate but sometimes I make the payout just with texts
3. I have pic sets on each character.
4. I have audio stories on each character.
5. I mass e-mail (this has REALLY upped the amount I make each day)

I never do the vchat because they drive me crazy. eww the recordings that they make trying to be sexy and they end up sounding SO FUCKING creepy.

that being said I average $25-$50 per day with no issues. (I am at the old rate)

kortneykay
07-12-2017, 11:54 AM
1. I have multiple characters (3 I do in the AM and 3 I do in the PM) I have photos and a voice greeting on each one. I am at $1.99 on each profile
2. I LOVE texts. I get texts all the time. I like that I get texts when I am at the pool. lol it is a low rate but sometimes I make the payout just with texts
3. I have pic sets on each character.
4. I have audio stories on each character.
5. I mass e-mail (this has REALLY upped the amount I make each day)

I never do the vchat because they drive me crazy. eww the recordings that they make trying to be sexy and they end up sounding SO FUCKING creepy.

that being said I average $25-$50 per day with no issues. (I am at the old rate)

Right, everyone else seems to be making $25+ a day, which is why I was wondering why kandigrace is having issues. Perhaps it's only because she's using the chatline.

Bambi7
07-17-2017, 03:37 PM
Hey everyone! I've been meaning to join TTM for over a month now, but I'm going to Asap because the one site Im working on isn't enough at this point.

Quick question- I see people talking about character pictures...where do these come from? The one site I am working on requires to use real pics. I'm interested in having at least 2 characters on ttm- how does that work?

JaneBurgess
07-17-2017, 05:04 PM
Hey everyone! I've been meaning to join TTM for over a month now, but I'm going to Asap because the one site Im working on isn't enough at this point.

Quick question- I see people talking about character pictures...where do these come from? The one site I am working on requires to use real pics. I'm interested in having at least 2 characters on ttm- how does that work?

You have to purchase images to use as a fake character. They have content sites you can buy them on or hire a local model for a shoot and take a bunch of pics and video so you have content to sell as well.

Kandigrace
07-17-2017, 05:06 PM
Hey everyone! I've been meaning to join TTM for over a month now, but I'm going to Asap because the one site Im working on isn't enough at this point.

Quick question- I see people talking about character pictures...where do these come from? The one site I am working on requires to use real pics. I'm interested in having at least 2 characters on ttm- how does that work?


So you say that you need photos for the website? Hmmm, step into my office.

If you are looking to pay out some money for a photo set, this is a good site:

https://www.scarlettcontent.net/index.php

The lowest sets on the site are about $4.00. The highest sets on the site might run you about $50.

Now if you are suffering from the illness commonly known as broke bitch syndrome, this site might work for you:

pornpics.com

Get that snipping tool popping and take yourself down some photosets.

If that is not going to work for you, you can always steal photos from google and crop out the watermarks.

Good luck!

JaceyLynn
07-17-2017, 05:19 PM
So you say that you need photos for the website? Hmmm, step into my office.



Now if you are suffering from the illness commonly known as broke bitch syndrome, this site might work for you:



Get that snipping tool popping and take yourself down some photosets.

If that is not going to work for you, you can always steal photos from google and crop out the watermarks.

Good luck!
The rest of this is just bad advice. No and No. This has got to be some of the worst advice I have ever read on here.

SuperPookie
07-17-2017, 05:27 PM
I have 3 characters at 1.99 for phone with the addition of direct connect (only 1 for that) pics sets and some videos, as well as cam for 3.99 and today for instance I made 2.40 lol. They do refuse all of my new videos though even though they're all non nude.So I would probably be doing a bit better if I could add more

loveshooks
07-17-2017, 06:15 PM
...Now if you are suffering from the illness commonly known as broke bitch syndrome, this site might work for you:

pornpics.com

Get that snipping tool popping and take yourself down some photosets.

If that is not going to work for you, you can always steal photos from google and crop out the watermarks.

Good luck!

please nobody take this advice. it's theft and it's wrong both legally and ethically

EricaErotica
07-17-2017, 06:53 PM
please nobody take this advice. it's theft and it's wrong both legally and ethically


Loveshooks,

This is a public forum. The information contained in that post should not be here for the public to see in my opinion. As a moderator, that post should be deleted or at least edited to remove the sites mentioned to get content. Please, PLEASE ladies be discreet with what you post on a public forum. I cannot stress this enough.

JaceyLynn
07-17-2017, 07:33 PM
Loveshooks,

This is a public forum. The information contained in that post should not be here for the public to see in my opinion. As a moderator, that post should be deleted or at least edited to remove the sites mentioned to get content. Please, PLEASE ladies be discreet with what you post on a public forum. I cannot stress this enough.

I didnt even think of that when I quoted her, but I deleted it from my post.

EricaErotica
07-17-2017, 07:40 PM
I didnt even think of that when I quoted her, but I deleted it from my post.

The site and the link to it is still in your reply.

JaceyLynn
07-17-2017, 07:45 PM
The site and the link to it is still in your reply.

I deleted the content website, the second one is just an affiliate site but I will edit that one out also.

sarahlove
07-17-2017, 08:45 PM
I have a whole list of sites to get content from. I give it out free when girls send a DM. I do this because there are a LOT of people using content and some guys think it is exciting to "expose" girls who use content. Posting content sites in a public forum could cost another PSO her money should would make from a profile. Play it cool and we can all make money!

P.S. I have a link to a site that someone keeps up to date. it is not all just girls and some is for print but it is a great resource!

loveshooks
07-17-2017, 11:08 PM
Loveshooks,

This is a public forum. The information contained in that post should not be here for the public to see in my opinion. As a moderator, that post should be deleted or at least edited to remove the sites mentioned to get content. Please, PLEASE ladies be discreet with what you post on a public forum. I cannot stress this enough.


Just to be clear no links to piracy sites were posted here

as far as the advice to cap and steal, better to have that out there and refute it as to why that is a bad idea rather than suppress dialogue

Scarlettcontent is a legit content site, and as to the link to pornpics, the poster was referencing screencapping that stuff. If you follow the watermarks through the join page on that site you'll see it's a legit site in that while it contributes nothing new to the net nothing illegal is going on there. an aff is using watermarked content to advertise the site in the marks. I will remove the linkable part of the site name though, not sw's place to give to that. gracias for the head's up and need for a closer look

I don't see anything to delete here though. no links to piracy and responses other than mine have put forth that this is an awful idea. I also doubt it raises any new ideas to any peeps already inclined to steal content from others

If I'm missing something, honestly, please let me know

and for real, even though I don't think the deletions were necessary I so appreciate your work to be on the side of good in this thread. gracias chicas =)

Kandigrace
07-18-2017, 07:35 AM
I said what I said and nothing was wrong with it. I am not paying $30, $50, $100 for a photoset that I might use in a business where I am already extremely underpaid., that is a terrible investment. PSO's are terribly underpaid but that's a discussion for another time. I gave the original poster that advice because i thought it would be helpful. I didnt expect to be ragged on by everyone. Scarlettcontent is legal. Pornpics is legal. Taking photos off of google is a last resort if you dont have the money to buy a photoset and even then, you cant really piece those photos together and make an efficient photo set. I expect a goddamn apology but I am never going to get it. I swear some of you act like PSO'ing and camwork is the be all/end all of your life. At the end of the day, its just a job and not a career. You make your fucking money and keep it moving. You do this shit for a few years and then you move on to something better. Hell, anything is better than making $5 for 15 minutes of work or sitting around in a camroom all day hoping for money when men are just jerking off to you for free. I hate this industry and I dont kiss the bosses asses like some of you do. I make my money and I keep it moving. You guys shouldnt be ragging on me for doing something that I am sure all of you have done at least once in your time working in this industry. Why in the world would you pay $50 to $60 for a photoset when some of you struggle to make at least $20 a day on SM or $25 a week on TTM? That makes no damn sense. Nothing about that makes a lick of fucking sense. If this is your business and you are putting money into said business, you need to be able to get some sort of a profit out of it. I gave the girl some tips and some links to some LEGAL websites. Oh and a great deal of the pictures on those LEGAL websites actually are on Google Images. Now after all that I have said, can someone please explain to me what the fuck did I do wrong? Why am I being ragged on for attempting to be helpful? Because the shit was not malicious.

Snowy0Star
07-18-2017, 08:29 AM
I said what I said and nothing was wrong with it. I am not paying $30, $50, $100 for a photoset that I might use in a business where I am already extremely underpaid., that is a terrible investment. PSO's are terribly underpaid but that's a discussion for another time.

If you think theres nothing wrong with it thats on you but most ppl would HIGHLY disagree with that. If your not willing to invest in your buisness and if you think were so underpaid that you have no qualms about STEALING why are you still in this indistry ? EVERYTHING in YOUR life is EXACTLY what you MAKE it to be. If you no have no qualms about stealing work from other ppl then its no wonder you think were underpaid ur attitude probably smells worse then a house with 100 cats. PPL pick on shit - I know that when I go thru my phases of "I hate men why TF wont anyone spend money on me blah blah blah my income suffers to the point so bad its pointless to even do it so i do something else till i fell better. I take a year weeks or months off and do something else and come back when I'm emotionally and mentally ready and I only get that when I push myself when its slow too much and not log out because I needed the money because I used to have a shopping addiction so it was all my own damn fault. This carrer is totaly sustainible if you take care of ur mind emotions and body. If were so "underpaid" why are ppl making full time income at this just doing PSO? Why have people funded houses and cars and living the life of thier dreams thru online sexual work ?


I expect a goddamn apology but I am never going to get it.

you expect an apollogy for being told your advice was ethically and legally wrong when any body in law school and anybody with a moral compass pointing north would tell you the exact same thing ?



You make your fucking money and keep it moving. You do this shit for a few years and then you move on to something better. Hell, anything is better than making $5 for 15 minutes of work or sitting around in a camroom all day hoping for money when men are just jerking off to you for free. I hate this industry and I dont kiss the bosses asses like some of you do. I make my money and I keep it moving. You guys shouldnt be ragging on me for doing something that I am sure all of you have done at least once in your time working in this industry

Again if you hate it so much why are you still here in it ? Some people have made full time carrers out of this and theyre doing just fine. Fuck - Sam started when she was 30 and shes a plus size performer and shes been doing this over 10 years now and shes makes 100s a day probably so this part is just totally invalid IMO.




If this is your business and you are putting money into said business, you need to be able to get some sort of a profit out of it

All of my characters Ive paid for and Ive made 1000s off them. I paid for a $150 Andriod watch in a day last year on NF . So its your attitude and your mindset not the industry .



Now after all that I have said, can someone please explain to me what the fuck did I do wrong? Why am I being ragged on for attempting to be helpful? Because the shit was not malicious.

because ....


please nobody take this advice. it's theft and it's wrong both legally and ethically

and ill say it again - any body in law school and anybody with a moral compass pointing north would tell you the exact same thing

JaceyLynn
07-18-2017, 09:56 AM
I gave the girl some tips and some links to some LEGAL websites. Oh and a great deal of the pictures on those LEGAL websites actually are on Google Images. Now after all that I have said, can someone please explain to me what the fuck did I do wrong? Why am I being ragged on for attempting to be helpful? Because the shit was not malicious.

It might not have been malicious but it is wrong. Just because a photo is found on google images does not make it free to use. When you sign up to websites and upload content you are suppose to have a model release and 2257 paper work in case there are ever any issues arise ( Here is some great information on the subject, feel free to read it and educate yourself on the matter so in the future you can give proper advice http://www.xxxlaw.com/section-2257/index.html) . If you STEAL content off google or other Affiliate websites you will not have that information. I know photographers and program owners that go after the PSO industry because there is a lot of theft going on. Some of these girls might get lucky and get off with a just delete it and we will not file charges warning but why take the chance on your account being terminated and all your hard money not paid out and a chance of being sued because you decided to break the law and not do things the right way to begin with all to save a few bucks. We already have enough of a problem with people (clients) stealing our content and posting it on the internet for everyone to see for free so why in the world would you suggest that someone in the industry does the same exact thing and use it to turn a profit off of?

kortneykay
07-18-2017, 09:56 AM
I said what I said and nothing was wrong with it. I am not paying $30, $50, $100 for a photoset that I might use in a business where I am already extremely underpaid., that is a terrible investment. PSO's are terribly underpaid but that's a discussion for another time. I gave the original poster that advice because i thought it would be helpful. I didnt expect to be ragged on by everyone. Scarlettcontent is legal. Pornpics is legal. Taking photos off of google is a last resort if you dont have the money to buy a photoset and even then, you cant really piece those photos together and make an efficient photo set. I expect a goddamn apology but I am never going to get it. I swear some of you act like PSO'ing and camwork is the be all/end all of your life. At the end of the day, its just a job and not a career. You make your fucking money and keep it moving. You do this shit for a few years and then you move on to something better. Hell, anything is better than making $5 for 15 minutes of work or sitting around in a camroom all day hoping for money when men are just jerking off to you for free. I hate this industry and I dont kiss the bosses asses like some of you do. I make my money and I keep it moving. You guys shouldnt be ragging on me for doing something that I am sure all of you have done at least once in your time working in this industry. Why in the world would you pay $50 to $60 for a photoset when some of you struggle to make at least $20 a day on SM or $25 a week on TTM? That makes no damn sense. Nothing about that makes a lick of fucking sense. If this is your business and you are putting money into said business, you need to be able to get some sort of a profit out of it. I gave the girl some tips and some links to some LEGAL websites. Oh and a great deal of the pictures on those LEGAL websites actually are on Google Images. Now after all that I have said, can someone please explain to me what the fuck did I do wrong? Why am I being ragged on for attempting to be helpful? Because the shit was not malicious.

Kandigrace, I was going to stay out of this but you were dead wrong and your way of thinking is...interesting. If you feel the work is underpaid, you have the right to exercise free will and get out of the business. But please, don't ruin it for everyone else. I've been doing paid pso work for years and exercised my free will when it came to sites I felt paid less than others. If you don't like making $0.20 per min or less, go somewhere that pays $1. If you feel TTM pays pennies, well, you've been here since 2015 when they were still offering 50%, what happened?

Underpaid? Not me. I charge $2.99 on TTM and get 50% of that. I charge $2.99-7.99+ everywhere else with some sites offering 70%. Independently I charge around the same and even offer text packages at $120 per hour. The money is out there but you have to EARN it and chase after it and establish it. This may be just a job to YOU but some of us have made a very very good CAREER out of pso work and are perfectly content which brings me to my next point.

There's an unspoken (but very obvious) rule about theft. If you cannot afford content, save up the checks from your 'job' and buy some! There's an idea. It's already messed up that the models posing for content have only gotten paid once, then photographers sell their content after they sign their agreement. EULA doesn't cover 'stolen' pics just because you cut out the watermark. Either way, you're stealing to PROFIT which is the problem. Would you like it if someone stole your social media photos and did the same to you? It's all fun and games until someone steals your own photos and uses YOU as a character. It happens. But who cares, right? It's just a silly little pso job with zero victims at all.

There is no taking pics. PERIOD. You live in a 1st world country (most likely) making 1st world decisions with 1st world money. And if not, the men your character chats to are and have the means. You get to CHOOSE to be a sex worker, and your first choice is to take advantage? What will you do when your accounts get shut down for not having all the necessary documents for your content? You know, the stuff that comes WITH the actual photo sets you buy. The 2257 docs that you can get sued over. $50? You can find plenty of sets for $5 when starting out before graduating to better content. Do girls not listen or invest in working from home anymore?

What's wrong with taking this 'job' seriously? Perhaps for some of us it IS life. This is my retirement plan. I'm making on average $400-500 a day, investing, and preparing a future for myself, so yes, I do take 'camwork' and 'phonework' seriously. I know how to make GREAT money and I definitely didn't do so by being cheap and stealing photos. I just paid for a vacation, paid all my bills up for August and my $1k rent, gas in my car, organic groceries in my fridge, savings, investments, and my condo is going to be paid off in 2-3 yrs from THIS work. What pennies?

Contrary to popular belief, buying pic sets with a flexible girl with multiple sets is actually the best thing you can do as it creates more income down the line. It's an investment that works and is worth what you paid for it. The ROI alone is enough. That $50-100 you're complaining about will be made over and over every single week.

Even if some of us have done it in the past, we're here right now, in 2017 telling you that it's not okay. We all make mistakes, and we hopefully learn from them. Funny you mention someone struggling to make $20 when it seems you're the one struggling as you need to steal photos just to make what you considered underpayment. How does that work? You've been helped in this thread for free, but you're throwing shade, stealing, and talking shit about an industry YOU chose to enter? Then you give bad advice? Ummm okay.

Stealing is malicious, Kandi. There are a lot of malicious things you mentioned here. Okay, so it's clear you don't take this industry seriously, you're just passing through. Cool, but please don't try and paint everyone with the same brush. Some of us do very well, will continue to do well, and yes, take cam and pso seriously, because the money is serious if you know how to SELL. Not steal. Matter of fact, I just made $20 my cut while typing this.

There is profit in this industry. It's the ones who don't take it seriously, who steal and complain who do badly. If you hustle and know how to sell and have the talent, you won't need to steal because your business ethics will make the money for you and keep you paid. Too many PSOs are making big bucks from content they bought in 2008 and before, in 2017.


Signed, Someone who purchased content in 2010, takes this 'job' seriously and still making good money doing so. If you're going to do something, don't half ass it and expect $$$$. Too many of us making big bucks sacrificed and PAID for the content we bank. DO NOT come up in here telling people to STEAL and cut corners off the FREE communal advice you were given. WE paid to get here, and so should you.


If TTM was so horrid, how did I make almost $60 in a lil over 30 min the other day? And these guys are throwing bonuses AFTER your call. The money is out there! If you've been on here since 2015 and haven't built a PSO empire already, THAT'S ON YOU!!!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-18-2017, 10:30 AM
I'm scracthing my head at "Pso's are under paid" Not if you're working for yourself and generating your own leads and choosing your own price points. This is an odd statement? We are literally paying ourselves.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-18-2017, 10:41 AM
On the topic of content, you dont always need a model to advertise a phone line. You can promote a listing, toll free number or whatever with a pair of cartoon lips. A midnight skyline! As long as you can write a good byline and description your good. Food for thought if your on a budget, or just want to try something different. Its good to mix it up.

kortneykay
07-18-2017, 10:52 AM
On the topic of content, you dont always need a model to advertise a phone line. You can promote a listing, toll free number or whatever with a pair of cartoon lips. A midnight skyline! As long as you can write a good byline and description your good. Food for thought if your on a budget, or just want to try something different. Its good to mix it up.

You're right! I see a lot of ladies with lips or bodyparts, etc on a live call all the time with great tag lines. I also notice they have all 5 stars, and tons of feedback which means they've had tons of calls.

Off topic, is that Sansa Stark in your sig? I need to catch up on GOT, lol.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-18-2017, 10:55 AM
No its Cersei making her way to Iron Throne. Season 7 episode 1 was fiayaaa. I finally watched American Gods btw. Bilquis got me shook.

Kandigrace
07-18-2017, 11:28 AM
I tried my best to give someone advice and to be helpful and its exploded into something that I dont even understand. I am a little sick of people just ganging up for the hell of it. I dont see any of you on here trying to give that girl advice on photosets or even giving her links. I see all of you trashing me and that's not right. Every PSO gets burnt out, its normal. Ya'll have done everything but call me a child of god and I didnt do anything wrong. I shared LEGAL LEGAL LEGAL LEGAL links. I dont even post on here that much because this community is not that damn supportive, ITS NOT. Oh and for the people who are saying that PSO's are underpaid, take a good look at this link and tell me if I am lying:

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/zmvv9y/phone-sex-workers-only-make-dollar420-an-hour-lawsuit-claims?utm_campaign=Broadly+June+30+2017&utm_content=Broadly+June+30+2017+CID_805c31c6ba2ad 582edc71f3a7aa0b9a2&utm_medium=email&utm_source=broadlynlus&utm_source=Campaign+Monitor&utm_term=Phone+Sex+Workers+Only+Make+420+An+Hour+L awsuit+Claims

You see a lot of us are underpaid and some of us are not paid at all. Chances are that when you first got into PSO'ing, you probably dealt with a company that didnt pay its employees. It took me years before I finally got a paycheck from this kind of work because there are scam artists running all through it. People who dont believe that you should be paid for your work. Even after I started getting money for this kind of work, I still ran into several companies that would not pay me. Its a double edged sword. Some companies might pay you, Some companies wont. Some companies will expect you to do everything including the billing and still only give you 25% to 30% of your pay. What the fuck do you expect from an industry that does not even have a union? For every TTM or Niteflirt that pays, there is a donna burns/dmb times that doesnt. For every 10 girls that are knocking it out of the park, there are 20 who are struggling to make this work. Not everyone can afford vacations or thousands of dollars in the bank. You do realize that some of us are just looking to take calls, pay our bills, and maybe have a little pocket change. I dont know what people mean when they say to devote your life to phone sex. I feel like that is maybe asking me to become a pedophile and think like a pedophile and um I will leave this damn profession before that bullshit ever transpires. Any company worth its salt is going to tell you from the gate that you cant make a full time income from this kind of work and that it makes sense to have extra eggs. I have a couple of eggs and I am always looking for more. To the little girl uptop who said that my attitude is like 300 bad cats or something, you couldnt be more wrong. I invite you to check out my TTM and call all of my extra bosses and they will tell you that I am logged on 24/7. I am very polite. I talk like I have a modecum of common sense. I couldnt be rude or unpleasant if I tried....cause that is bad for business. If a call goes wrong, its probably cause I wasnt the guy's type or maybe it was a bad phone call connection. TTM does have those moments where a call will fail or drop. I wonder what the hell your damn reviews are like. Let's see you produce some proof of your damn reviews since you want to come at me and throw shade. If you show me yours, I will happily show you mine.

Back to the matter at hand, It did not have to come to this. If I posted something that was wrong, someone could have asked me to take down the original post or someone could have stated that whereas I tried to do the right thing, it was obviously wrong. I am not a mean person. If you tell me to take a post down or delete it, I will do it. Instead of replying in a decent and respectful way, I have been trashed far more than I ever expected. I saw that the girl was new and I was just trying to help her, excuse me for thinking that I was doing the right thing. I will never do that shit again. I will just be the moody angry stereotypical black bitch on here that everyone is making me out to be. May god be with me today.

Staci
07-18-2017, 11:32 AM
Off topic, is that Sansa Stark in your sig? I need to catch up on GOT, lol.
Definitely Cersei Lannister - and new (and last) season started last Sunday.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-18-2017, 11:46 AM
I tried my best to give someone advice and to be helpful and its exploded into something that I dont even understand. I am a little sick of people just ganging up for the hell of it. I dont see any of you on here trying to give that girl advice on photosets or even giving her links. I see all of you trashing me and that's not right. Every PSO gets burnt out, its normal. Ya'll have done everything but call me a child of god and I didnt do anything wrong. I shared LEGAL LEGAL LEGAL LEGAL links. I dont even post on here that much because this community is not that damn supportive, ITS NOT. Oh and for the people who are saying that PSO's are underpaid, take a good look at this link and tell me if I am lying:

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/zmvv9y/phone-sex-workers-only-make-dollar420-an-hour-lawsuit-claims?utm_campaign=Broadly+June+30+2017&utm_content=Broadly+June+30+2017+CID_805c31c6ba2ad 582edc71f3a7aa0b9a2&utm_medium=email&utm_source=broadlynlus&utm_source=Campaign+Monitor&utm_term=Phone+Sex+Workers+Only+Make+420+An+Hour+L awsuit+Claims

You see a lot of us are underpaid and some of us are not paid at all. Chances are that when you first got into PSO'ing, you probably dealt with a company that didnt pay its employees. It took me years before I finally got a paycheck from this kind of work because there are scam artists running all through it. People who dont believe that you should be paid for your work. Even after I started getting money for this kind of work, I still ran into several companies that would not pay me. Its a double edged sword. Some companies might pay you, Some companies wont. Some companies will expect you to do everything including the billing and still only give you 25% to 30% of your pay. What the fuck do you expect from an industry that does not even have a union? For every TTM or Niteflirt that pays, there is a donna burns/dmb times that doesnt. For every 10 girls that are knocking it out of the park, there are 20 who are struggling to make this work. Not everyone can afford vacations or thousands of dollars in the bank. You do realize that some of us are just looking to take calls, pay our bills, and maybe have a little pocket change. I dont know what people mean when they say to devote your life to phone sex. I feel like that is maybe asking me to become a pedophile and think like a pedophile and um I will leave this damn profession before that bullshit ever transpires. Any company worth its salt is going to tell you from the gate that you cant make a full time income from this kind of work and that it makes sense to have extra eggs. I have a couple of eggs and I am always looking for more. To the little girl uptop who said that my attitude is like 300 bad cats or something, you couldnt be more wrong. I invite you to check out my TTM and call all of my extra bosses and they will tell you that I am logged on 24/7. I am very polite. I talk like I have a modecum of common sense. I couldnt be rude or unpleasant if I tried....cause that is bad for business. If a call goes wrong, its probably cause I wasnt the guy's type or maybe it was a bad phone call connection. TTM does have those moments where a call will fail or drop. I wonder what the hell your damn reviews are like. Let's see you produce some proof of your damn reviews since you want to come at me and throw shade. If you show me yours, I will happily show you mine.

Back to the matter at hand, It did not have to come to this. If I posted something that was wrong, someone could have asked me to take down the original post or someone could have stated that whereas I tried to do the right thing, it was obviously wrong. I am not a mean person. If you tell me to take a post down or delete it, I will do it. Instead of replying in a decent and respectful way, I have been trashed far more than I ever expected. I saw that the girl was new and I was just trying to help her, excuse me for thinking that I was doing the right thing. I will never do that shit again. I will just be the moody angry stereotypical black bitch on here that everyone is making me out to be. May god be with me today.

We talked about USA Chatlines here in this thread https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?217298-Telepay-USA-Chatlines-Class-Action-Lawsuit So we know about the crappy phone lines. Most of us started out on crappy phone lines and then moved on. Luckily we have internet forums and google where anyone can find a better way of doing things...without stealing. :)

As for the rest of this mess, for the last time you told a person to steal images. It's been explained to you in great detail why this wasn't the best advice. Several people have told you why this unethical and took the time to explain it. You are behaving like a narcissistic child. Stop that. The stereotypical black bitch remark...what? You don't even know who you're going off on right now. Stop. Knock it off. Relax. Come back another day. Re-read everything that's been written and maybe then you may see things with a different perspective.

kortneykay
07-18-2017, 12:08 PM
Thanks Staci, and Phat- her hair color threw me off. It looks more fiery red in that gif and I'm still used to seeing her dried up lace fronts from Seasons 1-4 (I think I made it to 5). I'm still on the eps with Cersei is in prison and Sansa just got married.

@Kandigrace if I can recall, you've personally been helped a few times in this very thread. Anything and everything else can be searched on google and this very site. I'm just hearing a lot of excuses. Yes, Donna has burned a lot of people. She even went after me once and I got burned by her old sister company JRS! But you move on. My advice to you is to change your mindset if you want more. It's that simple. Also, this very site is for those who research BEFORE joining.

DMBTimes, USA Chatlines, etc have a rap sheet. So why sign up? I started out making $0.30 and now I don't do anything less than $1. Wouldn't you after putting in 9 yrs of paid work? Luck? I don't feel lucky when I log out at 7am and wake up tired and forcing myself to do it all again. I don't feel lucky when I noticed I've been logged into work for 17 hours. That's not luck. That's motherfuckin hard ass work. Kissing up to what boss? I AM my own boss and so is everyone else. You don't have to work for anyone- buy the content and throw up your own girls on your own site and find your OWN money.

I'm not apologetic towards anyone who feels helpless. If this business is something you don't take seriously and are just passing the time, that's fine, but why give advice? Why be surprised you're not able to afford a vacation after 10+ yrs of hustle? Why not leave it up to the pros? She could've searched the forum and found hundreds of advice and articles on how to make money, and so can you.

No one on here is about to make me or anyone else feel guilty for being able to afford the lifestyle we've made for OURSELVES in this industry. We used the same tools you have, and on a daily basis extend out an olive branch, FOR FREE. Some of you have the nerve to even hit us up via inbox on 'help' never to reply back with a thank you or anything. Perhaps we should start charging, and or keeping info to ourselves.

Last week I replied when you last complained about TTM. I asked if you had multiple characters and tried helping you out. Didn't hear a PEEP back. But someone else did and said they made $50+ daily on TTM because they followed XYZ. There's a formula to hustling. If you don't follow it, don't be surprised if you're still allowing sites to pay you $0.20 per min.

It is not ANYONE'S FAULT if YOU don't make it in THIS industry or any other industry. Where's your personal responsibility, Kandi? If you're logged in 24/7 you should be banking. Okay, you have an issue with working FOR people. So why after 2 yrs haven't you paid someone to build you a site, bought up some 800 numbers (APP gives them away for FREE), got a biller of your own, or taken on a platform's payment processor, and used your stolen photos to generate your own income?

I'm not trying to fight with you, or yell or gang up on you. Everything I've said is the direct response to what you said/did. I'm not trying to have this wealth of information for TTM shut down over a silly fight. It's just that it's a slap in the face for someone to ridicule your industry, tell someone to steal to get ahead, while also asking for advice in the same thread.

If you're not getting paid from a site LEAVE. Chatfunn just got dragged for the same thing and they were forced to pay up. If you're not making what you feel you should at any site, LEAVE. If you have 10 sites on deck it shouldn't matter because your income is constantly being replenished, anyway. Yes, everyone CAN afford vacations and thousands in their bank if they have the WILL to do so. You work as a independent contractor just like all of us. Your PERSONAL finances are your own responsibility. We all work for the same places, so if someone's doing better than you- you personally need to step your game up and this site has the info for you to do so. I've been broke, I've been homeless so you can't tell me ish about "some" people not being able to make it. IT'S A LIE!

You wanted reviews... Every last one of my characters and myself have 5 stars on average! When you take this job seriously and give them what they pay for, they reward you in more ways than just cash. Again, if you're not getting what you want in this industry; quit, or try a different approach from those who DO get what they want. I have a mini article on this forum on how NOT to go broke, so please. Excuses only sound good to the person giving them out.

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And to the 'stereotypical' Black angry bitch on here comment. Welp, welcome to the club. I gladly except that label. Part of me just doesn't care. The other part of me charges well for it, lol.

JaceyLynn
07-18-2017, 12:57 PM
Ya'll have done everything but call me a child of god and I didnt do anything wrong. I shared LEGAL LEGAL LEGAL LEGAL links.




As for the rest of this mess, for the last time you told a person to steal images. It's been explained to you in great detail why this wasn't the best advice. Several people have told you why this unethical and took the time to explain it. You are behaving like a narcissistic child. Stop that. The stereotypical black bitch remark...what? You don't even know who you're going off on right now. Stop. Knock it off. Relax. Come back another day. Re-read everything that's been written and maybe then you may see things with a different perspective.

What she said.


The first link you shared was a valid LEGAL way to get content. The second link was a valid LEGAL way of viewing content, but once you suggested cropping the images to use them, or to pull them from google images is where you crossed the line and all we are trying to do is let you know that you cannot do that, that it is illegal, so that way you will know for future reference and you will not be giving out bad advice about this again. No one is ganging up on you, its just we have to reiterate the facts to you because you still are not seeing what you did wrong. We would not be wasting our time if we did not care, at least I am not. I started at the bottom, was uneducated about said subject but before I jumped in head first I read every forum I could and found out how it works and how to make it work for me the legal way because I would hate for all my hard work to go down the drain over something as simple as spending 20 dollars on a content set or two.

loveshooks
07-18-2017, 03:46 PM
I tried my best to give someone advice and to be helpful

as others have pointed out, your first link was extremely helpful. thank you for that. as to the other proposal, when the report came in I chose to reply rather than just delete, my rationale being:

we're all adults here and have nothing to fear from respectful dialogue and exchanges of ideas. when ish gets crazy then me and Phat step in to delete and infract, but it's not our place to censor general discussion here. I responded in a matter of fact manner, in the way I speak to adults, no disrespect intended. the way I'd hope someone would respond to me if I suggested stealing a wallet to pay for a night out. Just...a bad idea. To be real what you were proposing was theft, in a community of content producers. If any of our pics were cropped and stolen to use elsewhere we'd dmca in a heartbeat

(which is another thing for peeps to consider, not sure on the TTM policy but I know a few sites have a zero tolerance policy on content theft-meaning one risks their account if caught stealing)



Back to the matter at hand, It did not have to come to this. If I posted something that was wrong, someone could have asked me to take down the original post or someone could have stated that whereas I tried to do the right thing, it was obviously wrong. I am not a mean person. If you tell me to take a post down or delete it, I will do it. Instead of replying in a decent and respectful way, I have been trashed far more than I ever expected. I saw that the girl was new and I was just trying to help her, excuse me for thinking that I was doing the right thing. I will never do that shit again. I will just be the moody angry stereotypical black bitch on here that everyone is making me out to be.

in terms of feeling attacked, for the most part I see discussion amongst equals. talking rarely makes things worse, if peeps listen AND talk/write, which has been happening here. if you re-read the posts you'll see most are more concerned with the ramifications of what you proposed, rather than an attack on you. certainly not where I was coming from as well. If my delivery hurt you then sincere apologies, I def won't be changing my approach as straight up blunt non-attacking honesty always serves me well, but I never want to hurt anyone in being real.

as to being moody and angry, prob sometimes a healthy reaction to the world in which we dwell. Phat and I would bury anyone who would post racist crap here though (fair to call our approach sub-zero tolerance for hate?), so please know you're protected from that

so, here's to not everything on the internet being a big dramatic fight.

peace and $$$$ to all who have posted including you Ms Grace

Sam38g
07-18-2017, 03:57 PM
I said what I said and nothing was wrong with it. I am not paying $30, $50, $100 for a photoset that I might use in a business where I am already extremely underpaid., that is a terrible investment. PSO's are terribly underpaid but that's a discussion for another time. I gave the original poster that advice because i thought it would be helpful. I didnt expect to be ragged on by everyone. Scarlettcontent is legal. Pornpics is legal. Taking photos off of google is a last resort if you dont have the money to buy a photoset and even then, you cant really piece those photos together and make an efficient photo set. I expect a goddamn apology but I am never going to get it. I swear some of you act like PSO'ing and camwork is the be all/end all of your life. At the end of the day, its just a job and not a career. You make your fucking money and keep it moving. You do this shit for a few years and then you move on to something better. Hell, anything is better than making $5 for 15 minutes of work or sitting around in a camroom all day hoping for money when men are just jerking off to you for free. I hate this industry and I dont kiss the bosses asses like some of you do. I make my money and I keep it moving. You guys shouldnt be ragging on me for doing something that I am sure all of you have done at least once in your time working in this industry. Why in the world would you pay $50 to $60 for a photoset when some of you struggle to make at least $20 a day on SM or $25 a week on TTM? That makes no damn sense. Nothing about that makes a lick of fucking sense. If this is your business and you are putting money into said business, you need to be able to get some sort of a profit out of it. I gave the girl some tips and some links to some LEGAL websites. Oh and a great deal of the pictures on those LEGAL websites actually are on Google Images. Now after all that I have said, can someone please explain to me what the fuck did I do wrong? Why am I being ragged on for attempting to be helpful? Because the shit was not malicious.

Steal my pics & I will contact the company & file a DMCA. If they pop up again, then I'd consult my lawyer about copyright infringement. I have EVERY & LEGAL right to protect my brand against girls like you who steal & lie to customers pretending to be someone you are not.

Just because you are underpaid, isn't any of the models in those pics fault.

If you are making that little on SM, are you using someone else's pics? No wonder you are not making money on it. Plus you are breaking the sites TOS.

NO, I don't steal content or other's work. I use my own pics for all of my endeavors. And I've gone after people who pretend to be me on backpage & escort sites. People who use my pics on SM & CB as the model who was camming. Men who pretend to be me on social media & then sell skype shows & get paid via Paypal and such, being ripped off. Cause I don't do skype or paypal. I've gone after them & told my fans that are ripped of to get their money back & report the fraud to Paypal. My fans tell me, I don't even have to look for it.

So as a model who has had her pics stolen & used, this does make me mad.

If you hate this industry, get out. There are plenty of online jobs to make money without being in the adult industry.

Staci
07-18-2017, 04:23 PM
Would you like it if someone stole your social media photos and did the same to you? It's all fun and games until someone steals your own photos and uses YOU as a character. It happens.
Reminds of when someone on TTM stole a picture of Kylie Jenner when she was just 15, and was using it as her profile picture.
It wound up on TMZ.

That was probably publicity that TTM didn't want.

Sam38g
07-18-2017, 04:26 PM
In all these years of posting on here, never have I ever gotten angry.
Literally, I am shaking because of how mad I am.

Nothing personal, but literally, I've had more money stolen from me than you Kandigrace will ever make. Stolen content is no joke. You do hurt that model's bottom line. It isn't some petty thing & no one gets hurt.

People using my images do run scams & then people who are scammed try to hold me accountable. Do you want to pay for my lawyers , my time & the research I have to put into fighting such shit?

The amount of hours & time spent battling thieves can be a full time job which takes away from me actually making money.

How much time spent telling guys it is the real me & not a scammer daily proves how much of it goes on too. So you are apart of the problem that helps keeps the rest of us from being seen as fraudsters & men scared to hand over credit cards to pay for porn.

What you are doing has a very real affect on the rest of us. You feel attacked? Pshhhhhhh So does my bank account & for way more money.

kortneykay
07-18-2017, 04:31 PM
Reminds of when someone on TTM stole a picture of Kylie Jenner when she was just 15, and was using it as her profile picture.
It wound up on TMZ.

That was probably publicity that TTM didn't want.

OMG. I missed that. I think I saw that and was like wtf? It ended up on TMZ, bwhahah wowww. Yeah, if you don't want your stolen pics on TMZ, don't steal, haha.

Sam38g
07-18-2017, 04:37 PM
It is to easy to do business the right way & make money without stealing. There is not justification for stealing either.

Staci
07-18-2017, 04:38 PM
OMG. I missed that. I think I saw that and was like wtf? It ended up on TMZ, bwhahah wowww. Yeah, if you don't want your stolen pics on TMZ, don't steal, haha.
You can still see it on TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_e07k39al/
They refer to TTM as a 'catfishing site'.

kortneykay
07-18-2017, 05:22 PM
You can still see it on TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_e07k39al/
They refer to TTM as a 'catfishing site'.

ROTFL. What's funny is out of all the shit-talk, she still had 5 stars with guys who didn't mind paying $2.50, lol. I don't know what's more funny. The fact that the guys probably didn't recognize it was her, or the fact that Kylie looks nothing like that anymore, anyway.

JaceyLynn
07-18-2017, 05:26 PM
ROTFL. What's funny is out of all the shit-talk, she still had 5 stars with guys who didn't mind paying $2.50, lol. I don't know what's more funny. The fact that the guys probably didn't recognize it was her, or the fact that Kylie looks nothing like that anymore, anyway.

Right. I have never watched KUWTK or kept up with their drama but I never would have pegged that for being kylie.

Staci
07-18-2017, 05:40 PM
Right. I have never watched KUWTK or kept up with their drama but I never would have pegged that for being kylie.
Oh, I recognized her right off the bat - even before TMZ featured the listing on their show.
I posted on another forum that the girl was using her and commented that I was surprised no one had contacted TMZ - then a few days later, there it was.

I don't know if someone took my comment as a suggestion, or if it was just pure coincidence