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LaPetiteVierge
10-09-2014, 09:38 AM
I'm on the fence about raceplay for therapeutic reasons. I have to go over it more in my mind before I can either agree or disagree with it.
sexysusie
10-09-2014, 09:50 AM
I'm not saying I do it as a therapeutic thing lol I'm not that narcissistic to think I'm the saviour of cam customers :P just that my own persona, morals etc get put aside when I cam. I'm playing a role, a character, and I'll be whoever they want me to be so long as they're paying me and it's within the limits I set for myself when I started (no bestiality, and nothing where they physically harm themselves). I'm a whore for £ and that's all I see this as!
LaPetiteVierge
10-09-2014, 06:18 PM
I was looking at the comments a few pages back about asian women being prized most highly and thinking how strange that was. I am in the UK and i'm white, and I work mainly on AW which is european based, so I guess i can only speak from my own cultural viewpoint, but from what I've seen like tends to attract like. There are many people that seem t have a 'taste' for certain types of people, whether that be racially based or otherwise, but i've personally seen more black men attracted to black women, and white men to white women. I've also seen more white men attracted to black women that black men to white women.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0031703
This is a study that was done both in the US and the UK for physical attractiveness. They studied white, black, and Asian women and men on facial attractiveness. For all men, the order of facial attractiveness was Asian women as the most attractive, then white women, then lastly black women.
Issabelle
10-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Alright, enough. I don't care if I get flamed straight into a new circle of hell for saying it, but shut the fuck up about personal arguments/attacks ladies. Loveshooks has already said that every single thread on race and absolutely anything else has devolved into a knock-down-drag-out fight of racial slurs and/or personal attacks. This thread doesn't deserve to die that death and this isn't worth infractions towards anyone. Let's all just move on.
LaPetiteVierge
10-10-2014, 02:05 PM
St. Louis police murdered a teenager by the name of Vonderrit Miles Jr.
http://i.imgur.com/sY9VK4n.jpg
He had just left a store where he purchased a sandwich.
The store manager said:
Like six minutes after I sold him a sandwich, he got shot... He wasn't armed when he was here. He didn't have a hoodie.
The police originally said that he'd jump out of some bushes:
http://i.imgur.com/58zfztz.png
They then retracted that and said he fired at police:
http://i.imgur.com/oWFArU8.png
He shot police with his sandwich apparently.
This incident happened just miles from where Mike Brown was murdered by police.
For more information:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/10/1335651/-Why-does-the-St-Louis-PD-keep-changing-their-story-about-the-murder-of-VonDerrit-Myers
I personally believe the recent attacks on black people, specifically young black men, are due to the inherent criminality of black men to the point where they're guilty until proven innocent in combination with the fact that there's no policing of the police when brutality and corruption are spread to the very core of the justice/judicial/legal system.
What about you? How has this case made you feel? In and all opinions welcome.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-10-2014, 02:21 PM
Move along people. The thread exist. Its not going anywhere. And if it bothers you.... again move a long. Showing up with a petty posse does nothing. ESPECIALLY since many of you pundits have offered nothing more than discourse to the thread. We get it Glamour Rouge is your homegirl. Got it. She got tested in a thread after being accused of trolling said thread. OH WELL move along. Report if ya feel the need to. Some of us really enjoy the the conversation and don't like making this ish personal. Take it to chatzy but jeezus christ stop trying to shut the thread down with this nonsense.
loveshooks
10-10-2014, 02:24 PM
Alright, enough. I don't care if I get flamed straight into a new circle of hell for saying it, but shut the fuck up about personal arguments/attacks ladies. Loveshooks has already said that every single thread on race and absolutely anything else has devolved into a knock-down-drag-out fight of racial slurs and/or personal attacks. This thread doesn't deserve to die that death and this isn't worth infractions towards anyone. Let's all just move on.
100% agreed. infractions handed out, cleaning this thread up now
I didn't pretend it didn't happen. I've told loveshooks to remove the posts and all the statements thereafter PRIVATELY. I didn't feel the need to announce it.
I don't care about KortneyKay's history, GlamourRogue's history, your history, or anyone else's history.
It's not my business. The same way you guys feel like tags in a listing and pictures of dildos aren't anyone's business. Rather than dwell on it, just move forward.
No one's jumping down anyone else's throat for saying to move on. Don't jump down mine.
thank you for behaving with the maturity that's been missing in this thread over the past day, why some of y'all would rather fight than work to solve issues as they occur is something I don't understand.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-10-2014, 02:33 PM
This happened yesterday? I've been in my own little pink bubble and had not heard anything about it.
St. Louis police murdered a teenager by the name of Vonderrit Miles Jr.
http://i.imgur.com/sY9VK4n.jpg
He had just left a store where he purchased a sandwich.
The store manager said:
The police originally said that he'd jump out of some bushes:
http://i.imgur.com/58zfztz.png
They then retracted that and said he fired at police:
http://i.imgur.com/oWFArU8.png
He shot police with his sandwich apparently.
This incident happened just miles from where Mike Brown was murdered by police.
For more information:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/10/1335651/-Why-does-the-St-Louis-PD-keep-changing-their-story-about-the-murder-of-VonDerrit-Myers
I personally believe the recent attacks on black people, specifically young black men, are due to the inherent criminality of black men to the point where they're guilty until proven innocent in combination with the fact that there's no policing of the police when brutality and corruption are spread to the very core of the justice/judicial/legal system.
What about you? How has this case made you feel? In and all opinions welcome.
Melonie
10-10-2014, 02:34 PM
What about you? How has this case made you feel? In and all opinions welcome.
Since you specifically asked for comments in this regard ... this police shooting incident happened within days of the Mike Brown / Ferguson MO shooting, but few Americans heard about it !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGMirM94AFo
My observation is that, as unfortunate as it might be, police shootings of teenage boys aren't as rare as one would hope. They are also not confined to white police shooters and black shooting victims.
My opinion is that editorial policy on the part of mainstream media seems to make sure that only incidents involving a white police 'shooter' and a black shooting 'victim' get national news coverage ... providing that the local neighborhood also starts rioting.
The Utah local news report video I posted involves a black police 'shooter' and a white shooting 'victim' ... followed by non-violent neighborhood protests ... and as such received essentially zero national publicity.
In regard to the use of the term 'murder' being accurately used in regard to any of these police shootings, that will ultimately depend on actual evidence.
kortneykay
10-10-2014, 02:37 PM
I'm starting to see a lot of police brutality lately with racial profiling. It seems every time one goes public, another is soon to follow. We all know the history this country has with racial discrimination and police brutality. Just the other day I read about a black teenager who got maced by police because a community member called about a "suspicious intruder" on their neighbors property. The teen used the side door and when the cops came in they ordered him to come downstairs. When he did, dressed in PJs pretty much, they ordered him to surrender and he was telling them he lived there. They asked him "Why are there no photos of you on the walls?" (because every relative on our parent's mantel lives there, lol) and tried to arrest him and pepper sprayed him. It turns out the kid was adopted and the parents were white and outraged. SMH. They would've done the same thing I believe to anyone who didn't appear white or appear they "belonged" in that neighborhood. It seems Hispanics and Blacks always tend to catch the most flack and it needs to stop.
In other words I had a run in once by a police officer of color. I had no previous run ins with the law, not even a fucking parking ticket and a civil lawsuit is pending. I have several policemen in my family and I've always looked up to them and felt safe. However, with the shit that has been going on lately I don't really like the men in blue. I feel that a lot of them are sore about their pay, are over stressed, and uncompensated and feel the need to snap on people. It seems the boys in blue feel they can do whatever the hell they want without answering to anyone. It's like they're their own entity. Though it has been proven over the years that a lot of them will bypass a white person, I feel that lately it's the world against the police. I've seen the things they've done to people of all backgrounds.
Issabelle
10-10-2014, 02:38 PM
I personally believe the recent attacks on black people, specifically young black men, are due to the inherent criminality of black men to the point where they're guilty until proven innocent in combination with the fact that there's no policing of the police when brutality and corruption are spread to the very core of the justice/judicial/legal system.
What about you? How has this case made you feel? In and all opinions welcome.
Yeah, what you just said? I'm in full agreement with that. I've lived in/been to areas where race and 'gang' affiliated clothing is enough for you to be the prime suspect if anything were to happen. I've had family members get dismissed from jury duty selection because they've said a man was 'guilty as shit' and 'just look at him' referencing clothes, tattoos, and race in their bias. I mean, yes, statistically there is a higher proportion of certain types of crimes by certain races, but the new 'guilty until proven innocent' mentality is hardly something that warrants. It's a serious undermining of our entire judicial system and, to state the obvious, morally wrong.
As for how the case has made me feel, I'd like to say moral outrage. The reality, however, is that I'm pretty numb to the problem. Maybe it's that it isn't a 'personal' struggle to me or maybe it's that I'm far removed geographically, emotionally, etc., but I don't feel much at all. The worst thing about the whole situation is that I don't feel anything about it, in my opinion. I've gotten so desensitized to debates of this matter that I'd rather dismiss it that examine why I might feel the way I do. Police brutality, racism in the judicial system, and the senseless slaughter of another human being should enrage me, but they just don't anymore. And that, objectively, is something I find disgusting about myself.
ETA: Eep--post got eaten in clean up. Reposting. :)
LaPetiteVierge
10-10-2014, 02:43 PM
Since you specifically asked for comments in this regard ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGMirM94AFo
My observation is that, as unfortunate as it might be, police shootings of teenage boys aren't as rare as one would hope.
My opinion is that editorial policy on the part of mainstream media seems to make sure that only incidents involving a white police 'shooter' and a black shooting 'victim' get national news coverage ... providing that the local neighborhood also starts rioting.
The Utah local news report video I posted involves a black police 'shooter' and a white shooting 'victim' ... followed by non-violent neighborhood protests ... and as such received essentially zero national publicity.
I remember seeing this and the actual video of the shooting. They said that he was shot because he continued to back away with his hands at his waist band as though he had a weapon. Do you think that shooting was racially charged?
LaPetiteVierge
10-10-2014, 02:56 PM
I'm starting to see a lot of police brutality lately with racial profiling. It seems every time one goes public, another is soon to follow. We all know the history this country has with racial discrimination and police brutality. Just the other day I read about a black teenager who got maced by police because a community member called about a "suspicious intruder" on their neighbors property. The teen used the side door and when the cops came in they ordered him to come downstairs. When he did, dressed in PJs pretty much, they ordered him to surrender and he was telling them he lived there. They asked him "Why are there no photos of you on the walls?" (because every relative on our parent's mantel lives there, lol) and tried to arrest him and pepper sprayed him. It turns out the kid was adopted and the parents were white and outraged. SMH. They would've done the same thing I believe to anyone who didn't appear white or appear they "belonged" in that neighborhood. It seems Hispanics and Blacks always tend to catch the most flack and it needs to stop.
In other words I had a run in once by a police officer of color. I had no previous run ins with the law, not even a fucking parking ticket and a civil lawsuit is pending. I have several policemen in my family and I've always looked up to them and felt safe. However, with the shit that has been going on lately I don't really like the men in blue. I feel that a lot of them are sore about their pay, are over stressed, and uncompensated and feel the need to snap on people. It seems the boys in blue feel they can do whatever the hell they want without answering to anyone. It's like they're their own entity. Though it has been proven over the years that a lot of them will bypass a white person, I feel that lately it's the world against the police. I've seen the things they've done to people of all backgrounds.
OMG Dave Chappelle predicted this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7F50Cd8LME#t=29
(Around :29 until 1:19)
Melonie
10-10-2014, 02:57 PM
Do you think that shooting was racially charged?
Who am I to say whether or not ANY of these police shooting incidents actually involved racism on the part of the shooting cop. I respect the fact that, regardless of a cop's skin color, when they are placed in a situation involving potential personal injury risk they are entitled to protect themselves from a real or perceived threat.
But it's fairly obvious that the after-the-fact neighborhood riots were racially charged.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-10-2014, 03:06 PM
I understand your point but I heard about this story when I was in Florida the last week of August and then again in Michigan the first week of September. It's true what the media chooses to focus on can feed our perceptions. I am not a sociology expert but I wonder if that's happening because it's giving the people the news they want. They have the means to determine what's popular based on viewer participation. It's disgusting and far from okay, but at least we can make people aware of how things work. That is what you were doing, right?
Edited to add: From now on whenever I see a bogus news story I should make an effort to turn the tv off. Usually I just go "What the fuck ever, puhlease" and then mute it. I go on to something else in my house. I should just turn the channel or cut the tv off.
Since you specifically asked for comments in this regard ... this police shooting incident happened within days of the Mike Brown / Ferguson MO shooting, but few Americans heard about it !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGMirM94AFo
My observation is that, as unfortunate as it might be, police shootings of teenage boys aren't as rare as one would hope. They are also not confined to white police shooters and black shooting victims.
My opinion is that editorial policy on the part of mainstream media seems to make sure that only incidents involving a white police 'shooter' and a black shooting 'victim' get national news coverage ... providing that the local neighborhood also starts rioting.
The Utah local news report video I posted involves a black police 'shooter' and a white shooting 'victim' ... followed by non-violent neighborhood protests ... and as such received essentially zero national publicity.
In regard to the use of the term 'murder' being accurately used in regard to any of these police shootings, that will ultimately depend on actual evidence.
LaPetiteVierge
10-10-2014, 03:10 PM
Who am I to say whether or not ANY of these police shooting incidents actually involved racism on the part of the shooting cop. I respect the fact that, regardless of a cop's skin color, when they are placed in a situation involving potential personal injury risk they are entitled to protect themselves from a real or perceived threat.
But it's fairly obvious that the after-the-fact neighborhood riots were racially charged.
Although I might not agree with all your sentiments, I definitely appreciate you sharing your thoughts. They're always welcomed here by the way.
kortneykay
10-10-2014, 03:16 PM
OMG Dave Chappelle predicted this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7F50Cd8LME#t=29
(Around :29 until 1:19)
BWHAHHAH. I love Dave, I miss him and I heard he was coming back :D He makes fun of everyone, lol.
kortneykay
10-10-2014, 03:30 PM
One story that makes me giggle is one of my Uncle's who's a Major got pulled over speeding and they asked for his ID, saw that he was a Major and apologized. I thought it was odd considering civilian police don't follow military ranking but he is considered "police/security" in his own right. I notice that if you're famous or are some person of high ranking they tend to let things go.
This brings me to the recent mess found here. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/breaking/Suspects-Center-City-Beating-Philadelphia-Gay-Couple-Surrender-276902241.html
The Chief of police's daughter posted a few tweets getting out of quite a few sticky situations. That's sort of off topic but she did post bail.
Melonie
10-10-2014, 04:45 PM
I am not a sociology expert but I wonder if that's happening because it's giving the people the news they want. They have the means to determine what's popular based on viewer participation. It's disgusting and far from okay, but at least we can make people aware of how things work. That is what you were doing, right?
Yes my primary intent was to try to point out that mainstream news media not choosing to present a totally objective report of certain news items, or choosing to report certain news items while choosing not to report other news items, can present a distorted version of 'reality' to news viewers who accept those news reports at face value.
Additionally, to address your point about giving viewers what they want, I won't even try to speculate on what a particular mainstream media outlet is trying to achieve by employing a particular 'racially charged' news commentator who also took on an active personal involvement in the Ferguson MO situation ( obviously I'm speaking about Rev. Al Sharpton and MSNBC ). Personally speaking, I start to have major problems when news media itself starts to become part of any news 'story' !!! At any rate, your implied speculation that a particular news outlet might be 'tailoring' their news coverage to please a particular audience probably has a good deal of truth in it ( which arguably holds true regardless of whether that news outlet 'figurehead' is Rev. Al or Rush Limbaugh ).
Perhaps I should state this a different way to avoid possible confusion. In the America originally envisioned by the 'founding fathers', news media was unofficially delegated a role as 'watchdog' against wrongdoing. But today's apparent situation of news media choosing to 'watch' certain types of wrongdoing, while choosing to NOT 'watch' other types of wrongdoing, is arguably an abuse of their 'watchdog' role. In these three police shooting incidents discussed above, it would appear that mainstream media has been 'less than objective' in their reporting ( or lack thereof ) from the standpoint of race.
LaPetiteVierge
10-13-2014, 07:42 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ZFOu3hu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EuKYUC5.png
http://i.imgur.com/3M2kCNO.png
http://i.imgur.com/f9K9WEp.png
http://i.imgur.com/uJHJxIN.png
http://i.imgur.com/rg7lkoS.png
http://i.imgur.com/ueLcKtW.png
This is an uh... "interesting" documentary about whiteness.
"The Whiteness Project is a multiplatform investigation into how Americans who identify as “white” experience their ethnicity."
Trailer on PBS:
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365320408/
Official Site:
http://www.whitenessproject.org/
A lot of them share the same "pull yourself up by your boot straps"/"play the card you were dealt"/"there's a responsibility problem, not a race problem" ideas as the bulk of white and white-passing people in this thread shared as their perspective of race and I'm sure seeing that other people agree will be appreciated if they're even still sneaking a peek in here.
Lol.
For me, nearly all the opinions in this are a fucking headache.
(Nearly) Everyone talks about "cards" as if shit's a game and it's really annoying. Acting as though a system that dismantled the humanism of people who couldn't be looked at and seen as equal if they weren't white ended "200 years ago" or even the more widely accepted 45+ years ago is just both unbelievable and, quite frankly, disgusting to me personally.