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misspandora
05-01-2018, 06:08 AM
WOW..now their SITE IS DOWN "for maintenance"

https://www.youkandy.com/

laurielegs
05-02-2018, 02:48 PM
OK so..I just noticed they posted an updated announcement.

They can't even get our money from the payer?? That's ridiculous..

https://www.youkandy.com/MyAccount/Announcements/View/JQZTC5DPGVTGMULIGA6Q

From what I understand Firstchoice is holding funds over a certain amount until the bank liquidation is finished. They did the same thing to Streamate but fortunately they have enough reserves that they are able to pay us anyway. In that discord chatroom Bode said that is why Streamate aren't setting us up to use Payoneer like ImLive is doing, because they still have not released their funds and SM doesn't want to work with a company related to FirstChoice since they are holding so much money.

Now that the site is down, will probably be a long while until we see our money from YouKandy (if ever). I can understand her not being able to pay us yet until the money is released, but to take the site down with not so much as an email to us is a slap in the face.

misspandora
05-03-2018, 05:49 AM
From what I understand Firstchoice is holding funds over a certain amount until the bank liquidation is finished. They did the same thing to Streamate but fortunately they have enough reserves that they are able to pay us anyway. In that discord chatroom Bode said that is why Streamate aren't setting us up to use Payoneer like ImLive is doing, because they still have not released their funds and SM doesn't want to work with a company related to FirstChoice since they are holding so much money.

Now that the site is down, will probably be a long while until we see our money from YouKandy (if ever). I can understand her not being able to pay us yet until the money is released, but to take the site down with not so much as an email to us is a slap in the face.

AGREED!! There are a lot of people complaining on Twitter about it (enter YouKandy in the search box). I have tweeted at them. Strangely enough, as of a cpl days ago, they were still auto-tweeting content being added to the site.

No clue WTF is going on, but once I get my money, I am done with that site.

misspandora
05-03-2018, 05:51 AM
Don't you all just love how we sex workers have to deal with all this uncertainty because society treats us like dirt??

I mean, if this site screws us over, do we even have any recourse? Could we even sue and win?

O/T but I just got into it with some anti-porn "activists" on Facebook. They really made me mad. Full of all this pseudo-feminist b.s., but you can tell it's because they're religious right-wingers. They said everyone in porn is being abused and mistreated..I got so mad, I told one woman to GFY and I got a 3 day ban on FB. UGH

DonaDiabla
05-04-2018, 02:05 PM
Well, I guess YouKandy will never come back and that was very sucky of them :(

SuperPookie
05-04-2018, 03:54 PM
^ did you hear something new?
Though at this point them saying nothing says a lot

misspandora
05-05-2018, 07:25 AM
Their site is STILL down. Not looking good.

I'm thinking about doing some research to see who owns it..which company hosts it, etc.

misspandora
05-05-2018, 07:56 AM
Somebody on Twitter posted this info about youkandy ownership:

Ownership http://youkandy.com
Dan Jones, YK Media Ltd
Registered office address
Century House, 40 Crescent Business Park, Lisburn, County Antrim, BT28 2GN
Phone: +44.1234567890
Ownership YK Media Ltd

DonaDiabla
05-05-2018, 08:54 AM
No,but it has been down for 5 days now. It is looking like a hit and run job where the owner is going to take everyone's money. But, I do hope that I am wrong about but I have this creepy feeling about it.


^ did you hear something new?
Though at this point them saying nothing says a lot

KatyBoleyn
05-05-2018, 09:26 AM
I'm betting on that the owner is wiped out every bit as much as the models if he was 100% in FirstChoice. If 100% of your working capital (including your own future paychecks) are now locked away, and you have no good answers for anyone until FC releases funds, then there isn't much that can be done.

The constant name of the game is to diversify, whether you're a business on Wall Street, a farmer growing crops, or a cammodel or cammodel business.

leiaswift
05-08-2018, 02:16 PM
Go to the site today and get this:

"Not Found
HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found."

misspandora
05-08-2018, 03:12 PM
Some models on Twitter are talking about pursuing legal action.

laurielegs
05-08-2018, 03:24 PM
They only owe me $50 so I wouldn't be able to pay a lawyer or take time off work for $50 and come out ahead.

SuperPookie
05-08-2018, 03:38 PM
Go to the site today and get this:

"Not Found
HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found."
...& that's that then :/

DonaDiabla
05-08-2018, 05:58 PM
Yeah,I called it and I will not see my 30 dollars again. But, I hope all of the models and customers get their funds back. :)

laurielegs
05-09-2018, 10:36 AM
Youkandy just tweeted that Firstchoice is still holding funds and have "killed" their business, so looks like they have no funds to pay out.

https://twitter.com/YouKandyCom/status/994204783920734208

loveshooks
05-09-2018, 06:46 PM
they should pay out of their own pocket, the FC excuse is total bullshit

Bella_Monroe
05-10-2018, 04:19 AM
I have around $300ish in my account, we were told to keep on working, im dumbfounded they just up and left.

In news articles online dailypay says they have offered to cover the costs of payroll so members can get their money which is great but Im assuming youkandy need to accept the offer and if youkandy are not opening emails or checking their twitter anymore then what the hell are we supposed to do?

Does dailypay have a rep on these forums we can talk to? or can add more information to this thread for us?

laurielegs
05-10-2018, 06:05 AM
I have around $300ish in my account, we were told to keep on working, im dumbfounded they just up and left.

In news articles online dailypay says they have offered to cover the costs of payroll so members can get their money which is great but Im assuming youkandy need to accept the offer and if youkandy are not opening emails or checking their twitter anymore then what the hell are we supposed to do?

Does dailypay have a rep on these forums we can talk to? or can add more information to this thread for us?

I got that email too since I'm still on their mailing list even thogh I left them years ago. That particular dailypay isn't on the forums here. Since YouKandy didn't accept the offer I doubt if it would matter though.

The critical thing here is that YouKandy's owner apparently just spent all the profits instead of keeping a reserve to pay us in case something like this happened, so there aren't any funds to pay out. YouKandy were around a long time so they had time to prepare for an event like this. Just no way to run a business IMO.

misspandora
05-10-2018, 07:30 AM
I got that email too since I'm still on their mailing list even thogh I left them years ago. That particular dailypay isn't on the forums here. Since YouKandy didn't accept the offer I doubt if it would matter though.

The critical thing here is that YouKandy's owner apparently just spent all the profits instead of keeping a reserve to pay us in case something like this happened, so there aren't any funds to pay out. YouKandy were around a long time so they had time to prepare for an event like this. Just no way to run a business IMO.

AGREED! Esp when they put all their eggs in ONE basket with FirstChoice!! They should've had a reserve fund..of course, we're assuming they didn't, and that they honestly don't have the money..that could be B.S.

misspandora
05-10-2018, 07:31 AM
THere are models who were really active on there, with camming, and the contests, who are owed THOUSANDS by them

SuperPookie
05-10-2018, 07:32 AM
Their Twitter page has been deleted.

Bella_Monroe
05-10-2018, 09:48 AM
The critical thing here is that YouKandy's owner apparently just spent all the profits instead of keeping a reserve to pay us in case something like this happened, so there aren't any funds to pay out. YouKandy were around a long time so they had time to prepare for an event like this. Just no way to run a business IMO.

Most recent update is that dailypay has offered to cover the payroll costs in full free of charge until youkandy sort their funds out.

Their twitter is still active at the moment, 78 replies in one post and 48 in the other. Im really surprised their twitter is still there. So far I have seen 3 different people comment 3 different companies behind Youkandy and 3 different owners, its all a mess, how can we sue when we dont even know who they are? This industry is in some dire need of transparency.

SuperPookie
05-10-2018, 10:18 AM
Most recent update is that dailypay has offered to cover the payroll costs in full free of charge until youkandy sort their funds out.

Their twitter is still active at the moment, 78 replies in one post and 48 in the other. Im really surprised their twitter is still there. So far I have seen 3 different people comment 3 different companies behind Youkandy and 3 different owners, its all a mess, how can we sue when we dont even know who they are? This industry is in some dire need of transparency.
When I tried to go to their Twitter page it said not found but perhaps it was a momentary glitch so I'll check again

laurielegs
05-10-2018, 11:24 AM
Most recent update is that dailypay has offered to cover the payroll costs in full free of charge until youkandy sort their funds out.

Their twitter is still active at the moment, 78 replies in one post and 48 in the other. Im really surprised their twitter is still there. So far I have seen 3 different people comment 3 different companies behind Youkandy and 3 different owners, its all a mess, how can we sue when we dont even know who they are? This industry is in some dire need of transparency.

They can't do much though if YouKandy won't even respond or cooperate.

"Update 10th May, quote from DP Service response: “Hi *****, we have offered to cover the costs of the payroll for them while they sort their funds out, then they pay us back free of charge. They havent responded to the request yet.”"

http://ocamgirl.com/youkandy-com-ceases-trading-after-fcp-incident/


That's a very generous offer. Doesn't sound like they even are able to pay back dailypay or have any intention of trying to pay us all. If true the owner is nothing but a thief!

KatyBoleyn
05-10-2018, 08:54 PM
They aren't the first. There's several XBiz bigshots that offered to take over the company free and clear or with generous buyout offers. The owner isn't interested, he just disappeared.

loveshooks
05-10-2018, 10:47 PM
^^which means the buyout price was prob less that what was frozen/owed. a lot of these sites try to pretend they are some big organization when it's two dudes working out an apartment with zero long term biz plan, no float for when ish gets rough or ability to weigh risks associated with every bank or 3rd part service with whom they work(ed)

and what you said about eggs in baskets is so on point. spread assets chicas, and always withdraw everything from 3rd party systems as soon as you receive the funds.

and get a bank account (ideally two) if you can, one offshore if you can. I can't stress that enough. Just pay your full taxes to any and every entity owed.

back to FC and the eggs in diff baskets:

when Chexx crashed and froze 27k of my cash as well as my bank account for another 9k I went in to my own savings to pay people. If you're a site or service, fucking act like one (pardon my unprofessional language)

so yeah, any site that closes and uses FC as an excuse not to pay people are thieves. flat out

I swear we are the ethical compasses of this industry, let's not stop now and let's keep the focus on systems that work for us.

drops mic

for real though, I know so many hard working women who can't get paid by any site yet, including those of us who haven't closed. Thousands stuck in limbo for some chicas, unable to pay their rent or mortgage. Having no money for food even though they worked hard for money currently being denied. At 40 this I could and can deal with, but any early 20-something who hasn't lived long enough yet to build 'multiple nests'. Who rely on this money earned to pay for tuition, a roof over their heads and feed themselves and their kids?

I'm ranting again, apologies for the anger but not the words expressed. Hope all are safe and well tonight and I'll end here:

so tired of this. we all deserve better.

SubSpace666
10-15-2018, 12:24 AM
Just tried to visit YouKandy.com to see if I had sold any videos (for shits and giggles, bc I stopped promoting it about a year and a half ago) and saw it didn't exist.

Then I saw this https://www.makemoneyadultcontent.com/youkandy/

so yay *eye roll*

Can't say I'm surprised, bc I'm not