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Ms.Lacey
12-01-2014, 09:56 PM
Yes valid complaints about you... I do because they are true.
JaneBurgess
12-01-2014, 10:01 PM
Whatever. You are one of those cam performers that I talked about that creates drama. This situation has nothing to do with you but you feel the need to interfere without full knowledge. Not shocking because that seems to be the norm on here. I can see why so many performers say not to post on here, that this site is all drama.
Yes valid complaints about you... I do because they are true.
Ms.Lacey
12-01-2014, 10:04 PM
Actually I asked a question and you decided to give a bitchy reply. I never start drama on here.
JaneBurgess
12-01-2014, 10:10 PM
A question that doesn't involve you and isn't any of your business. So yeah, that is creating drama since it has zero to do with you. I posted my responses and if that isnt good enough for you then so be it. I'm tired of going over the same stuff on here over and over again. No matter what my answer is, it wouldn't be good enough, someone would be pissed and someone will complain. That's just how it seems to be on here and I dont see that changing anytime soon.
Actually I asked a question and you decided to give a bitchy reply. I never start drama on here.
Ms.Lacey
12-01-2014, 10:19 PM
You're right posting on a public forum is a private matter. I'm so done. Have a goodnight ladies.
SamanthaSugar
02-17-2015, 11:29 PM
Just started splitting with them and if it wasn't for their hourly I would have never lasted a week. Outside of the hourly is anyone making any money?
hyori
02-18-2015, 09:06 AM
I make about $10 an hour in tips on top of the hourly on average. It took about a month to get there I am now on my third month and it is improving albeit very slowly. I also splitcam this site with 3 other sites.
Issabelle
02-18-2015, 10:20 AM
Gonna be totally honest here and say I STILL haven't been paid my hourly from over a month ago. Jane told me that FWC had promised to send it out for payment either with last week or this week's funds, but it's Wednesday and I've seen exactly $0. I'm not impressed.
ETA: I haven't worked the site since FWC didn't pay me, so I can't say much about current traffic. It was utter shit a month ago though, so my hopes aren't high.
JaneBurgess
02-18-2015, 01:11 PM
They didn't pay you out because you didn't earn any tokens even tho you worked several hours on the site. I sent a mass message and told everyone that you have to earn at least some tokens in order to be paid an hourly rate. I don't find it unreasonable to expect a cam performer on hourly to earn some tokens, they didn't set a bare minimum as to how many you have to earn. I also dont think the sites being unreasonable since a performer could just log on, take hourly pay and not do anything.
The reason they pay hourly is because the traffic is still low.
Gonna be totally honest here and say I STILL haven't been paid my hourly from over a month ago. Jane told me that FWC had promised to send it out for payment either with last week or this week's funds, but it's Wednesday and I've seen exactly $0. I'm not impressed.
ETA: I haven't worked the site since FWC didn't pay me, so I can't say much about current traffic. It was utter shit a month ago though, so my hopes aren't high.
JaneBurgess
02-18-2015, 01:14 PM
Yeah a lot of the studio performers I have do pretty well. I won't say its easy, but if you set a rate and stick to it they will pay you for their requests. Nights seem to be busier on there too, days for me are kinda slow.
Just started splitting with them and if it wasn't for their hourly I would have never lasted a week. Outside of the hourly is anyone making any money?
Lulaa
02-18-2015, 01:17 PM
I have always been paid. I also always make tokens too. Some days are slower then other but I have made up to 2000 tokens on some days. jane or her husband always answers my questions and concerns in a timely manner.
kortneykay
02-18-2015, 01:55 PM
I'm frustrated for those who haven't been paid yet. No, I don't work on the site so no, it isn't necessarily my "business" but this is a public forum and I choose to post my observation on it anyway. If you don't like what I have to save, move on.
First of all over the past few months I've checked in on this thread and the site off and on. From day one I KNEW this was a bad idea. There are certain people who need a serious attitude adjustment that shouldn't be in the position they are. I've read the GFY posts the 'owner' made and they're disgusting. Another thing that bothered me was the quality of the site. Not to mention him wanting 10's, decided not to add talented bbs of all shapes, hues, and sizes. I room hopped a bit and the site seems to make a ton of models laggy. Every time I randomly peeped not one guy was TIPPING but there was a LOT of begging going on.
Who the fuck does this site think they are? If you are a site that offers HOURLY pay. Pay your fucking models! It's just that simple. I doesn't matter if the models sit on their asses, pick their noses, or farts on cam. The fact is; THEY ARE ON CAM and you PROMISED to pay them HOURLY. You don't offer hourly pay and then make up/change your rules AFTER the models have put in their hours. If a John fucks an escort that's a dead fish in bed, does he not still pay her? He better! Is it the model's fault the guys aren't tipping? NOT REALLY. But you do have to pay them. If the model makes $0 from your shitty traffic you still owe her hourly. That's the way YOU yourself as the owner set it up. Period.
If the site decides to pull certain girls from hourly pay, is a good idea to stay silent about that? HELLZ NO. Alert the studio, email the model, AND post it in bright bold red letters that her hourly pay has been removed. You don't decide at the last minute that they don't deserve to be paid for their work. Who the fuck does that? I don't see this site lasting long at all. If so, I'll be shocked and surprised and hope that a major facelift on the site has been made.
space_cowgirl
02-18-2015, 02:44 PM
So Issabelle isn't getting paid even though it was promised to her. Sounds familiar.
Stay far away from this "studio" and site, ladies.
Issabelle
02-18-2015, 04:01 PM
They didn't pay you out because you didn't earn any tokens even tho you worked several hours on the site. I sent a mass message and told everyone that you have to earn at least some tokens in order to be paid an hourly rate. I don't find it unreasonable to expect a cam performer on hourly to earn some tokens, they didn't set a bare minimum as to how many you have to earn. I also dont think the sites being unreasonable since a performer could just log on, take hourly pay and not do anything.
The reason they pay hourly is because the traffic is still low.
I can pull the email time stamps if you need a reminder, but you sent that mass notice to us immediately after I asked why I hadn't been paid. The new policy was put in place nearly two weeks after the pay period in question. I have absolutely no problem with the rule change, but it being retroactive is pointedly unfair to models. I fully appreciate that you don't have any control over what the site ownership does, but you are our studio owner and that makes you responsible for fulfilling our payments. End of story.
SarahTime
02-18-2015, 06:21 PM
Another person who doesn't work the site, thank God, but I'm just going to echo the fact that it's utterly fucked up to promise hourly pay and not deliver. To constantly change the terms AFTER the model has put the time in. Lets get real here, you can't MAKE these guys tip... you can tease, be nice, stand on your head, fuck yourself in free chat... nothing will FORCE these guys to tip. The owner is now most likely just trying to save himself from going bankrupt after he decided to make some "amazing" offer of hourly pay and then realized that his site sucks ass, he will never be the next MFC, and his traffic is worthless. A site should not offer hourly pay if they are not going to honor it. Period. If she had earned 1 token would that have been enough? How many tokens would have satisfied the prick of an owner to the point of convincing him to actually pay the models who are trying to get this worthless site off the ground?
Again, I don't work the site. But I think the experiences expressed here and in verified by others who have worked the site speak loud and clear.
JaneBurgess
02-19-2015, 05:45 PM
We fulfill the payments when we get the funds from the cam site, your hourly is with them. I said in the beginning you had to actually work the site, I have the emails and I can even go back to the original posts on here. Its been said multiple times you cant just log in and not really do anything. I also gave you the contact info for Joe who does accounting. He might be able to give you a better answer than what I was given.
I can pull the email time stamps if you need a reminder, but you sent that mass notice to us immediately after I asked why I hadn't been paid. The new policy was put in place nearly two weeks after the pay period in question. I have absolutely no problem with the rule change, but it being retroactive is pointedly unfair to models. I fully appreciate that you don't have any control over what the site ownership does, but you are our studio owner and that makes you responsible for fulfilling our payments. End of story.
JaneBurgess
02-19-2015, 06:09 PM
While I agree they haven't always made the right choices, I also am not going to say they are bad either. You CAN make money on there, lots of us do and we don't fuck ourselves in free chat either. I think customers that spend money are bored as hell with performers that only offer fucking as an option. The art of the tease is a lot art in the camming world it seems. That falls on cam performers 100 percent and not on site owners or studio's.
As for the hourly rates I see it from both sides. Yes they should pay it when they guarantee it, I agree with that. However I have seen performers not even try to do shows or engage their room. They ignore customers, talk on their phone, watch tv, etc. They did say in the beginning that you had to pay attention to your room and chat. I also don't want to see a site get taken advantage of.
Token sites aren't for everyone, that's a known fact. There's no shame in not working on a token site. However I see the same performers on here complaining about multiple sites they work on. I feel sometimes they think it's easier to blame the sites than to look and see why they aren't doing well on any site. Camming will always be a mix of looks, personality, skill and marketing. It's up to performers to make those four things work for them.
The site was recently bought out by a huge company, they aren't going bankrupt nor trying to save their site. I pay out 30 ladies a week and most have been on the site since I started the studio. They are doing well and I assume they wouldn't work the site if they didn't like it. I feel awful that a few performers have had issues or were let go from the site. I knew it wasn't going to work out for everyone, it never does sadly. I just don't think it's fair that cam sites are always made out to be the bad guys. Being behind the scenes give you a very different perspective of sites and performers. I see performers demanding respect and professionalism from cam sites, yet they have don't feel they should demand the same thing from themselves.
I appreciate your posting Sarah. Sorry if my response is long but I have wanted to say some of these things for a while now. Your posting gave me the chance to, thank you.
Another person who doesn't work the site, thank God, but I'm just going to echo the fact that it's utterly fucked up to promise hourly pay and not deliver. To constantly change the terms AFTER the model has put the time in. Lets get real here, you can't MAKE these guys tip... you can tease, be nice, stand on your head, fuck yourself in free chat... nothing will FORCE these guys to tip. The owner is now most likely just trying to save himself from going bankrupt after he decided to make some "amazing" offer of hourly pay and then realized that his site sucks ass, he will never be the next MFC, and his traffic is worthless. A site should not offer hourly pay if they are not going to honor it. Period. If she had earned 1 token would that have been enough? How many tokens would have satisfied the prick of an owner to the point of convincing him to actually pay the models who are trying to get this worthless site off the ground?
Again, I don't work the site. But I think the experiences expressed here and in verified by others who have worked the site speak loud and clear.
Nikki_Fox
02-19-2015, 06:21 PM
I think the point is - when the site determines a lady is not " earning " her hourly pay she should be notified immediately - not be allowed to keep working and then surprise you are cut from your hourly pay - that is pretty bad business
loveshooks
02-19-2015, 10:40 PM
I think the point is - when the site determines a lady is not " earning " her hourly pay she should be notified immediately - not be allowed to keep working and then surprise you are cut from your hourly pay - that is pretty bad business
it's not just bad business, it's bait and switch. if our industry was regulated ish like that would end up in court
Jane, I have tremendous respect for you, so honestly I don't understand how you can defend this site and it's owners after they have retroactively deducted pay from models who worked their site.
there is no legitimate explanation for this sort of practice. if they want to end a chica's hourly pay they need to notify her that day, to do anything else is unethical and deceitful
CurvyWinona
02-19-2015, 10:57 PM
Cam4 took care of hourly thing much better than this site, from what I see. =/
Issabelle
02-20-2015, 08:13 AM
We fulfill the payments when we get the funds from the cam site, your hourly is with them. I said in the beginning you had to actually work the site, I have the emails and I can even go back to the original posts on here. Its been said multiple times you cant just log in and not really do anything. I also gave you the contact info for Joe who does accounting. He might be able to give you a better answer than what I was given.
Alright, last time I'm arguing this and I'm only doing it so new girls don't end up in my position.
To your first point that you fulfill payments when you get the funds from the site: in the payment process you see, step one is getting the money and step two is transferring it to the model. In the payment process the model sees, the payment process is that our studio delivers our funds. In the real world, that equates to employees expecting their hourly wage from management regardless of whether or not management got paid by all of it's clients/boss (i.e. the studio). Why that very legal expectation is somehow different in camming is baffling to me.
You did, in fact, say that we had to work the site. I'm very capable of pulling those emails myself. 'Working' was defined as engaging the room and not just ignoring them because paying traffic was nearly nonexistent and the site owners knew it. I developed a tip menu, tried to start count downs, offered sale of KIK/snapchat, chatted with guests (who all admitted they had no tokens--not even one), and hustled for shows. Guess what? Didn't pan out! But the very first time that the definition of 'working the site' came to include earning tokens was after the pay period in question. So much for 'not doing anything.'
Re: giving me Joe's contact information: that was very kind of you, but as my studio owner it is your responsibility to deal with the ownership. Going back to the real world comparison, it isn't the responsibility of an hourly wage employee to hunt down their paycheck from their management's owner. That would be skipping the chain of command. Management exists to go to bat for the employee. That's why they get paid more or, in the world of camming, get a cut of the profits.
Much like Love, I have a great deal of respect for your position in the industry, both as a model and a business owner. You've been very successful. This site is single-handedly destroying your reputation in this community. I think I can speak for all of us when I say that I respect your work too much to want that.
kortneykay
02-20-2015, 03:38 PM
I think we can all agree that if anyone in the near future is offering any kind of studio, business, dailypay, merchant account, etc that there needs to be some cash reserves in the bank to cover accidents, emergencies, and payment layovers. This is business 101. If you do not have this you shouldn't be running a business or a studio period. I know of a few bbs who offer services that were put in positions where they could barely afford their mortgages waiting for merchant accounts to pay them but they still paid their models anyway because their credibility and reputation were too important. #stopsbeatingthedeadhorse
KatyBoleyn
02-20-2015, 03:45 PM
I think we can all agree that if anyone in the near future is offering any kind of studio, business, dailypay, merchant account, etc that there needs to be some cash reserves in the bank to cover accidents, emergencies, and payment layovers. This is business 101. If you do not have this you shouldn't be running a business or a studio period. I know of a few bbs who offer services that were put in positions where they could barely afford their mortgages waiting for merchant accounts to pay them but they still paid their models anyway because their credibility and reputation were too important. #stopsbeatingthedeadhorse
Mac and cheese isn't just a dietary staple...its a way of life. Extreme drama is just another day at the office :)
hyori
02-20-2015, 05:42 PM
^^ please don't do that omg.
Nikki_Fox
02-20-2015, 06:34 PM
peanut butter & ramen noodles :)
SweetJulia
02-20-2015, 06:45 PM
Not even on this site, but so happy I dodged a bullet.
SamanthaSugar
02-26-2015, 08:13 PM
Are any of ladies using FWC software to split with SM?
I have for about 2 weeks now and Ive been super slow on SM so I'm not sure if it's been affecting my placement or it's just been super slow. I blocked my state so I can't check myself. I do love the hourly rate but I can't continue to work for them if it's jeopordising my placement with SM
LaylaLovely
02-26-2015, 08:44 PM
I tried to use it but it disconnected me when I went on break ...so I'm assuming the break button doesn't work...so I just don't use it and went back to the Adobe hd encoder ...I really Liked the idea of going to a forced pvt .
storybrooke
03-02-2015, 10:47 AM
I have been having a wonderful time working this site Jane and Greg have been nothing but helpful and nice to me. I've gotten paid every week it may not be on the same day but it happens. I ALSO make tips and have since the site first started. Maybe not as many but I still made them, eitherway I've had a good time and been paid every time and haven't had any problems! Thank you Jane and Greg for all the help! Sorry for everyone else if you've had problems but my experience has so far been overall pretty good. :)
Issabelle
03-02-2015, 11:18 AM
I have been having a wonderful time working this site Jane and Greg have been nothing but helpful and nice to me. I've gotten paid every week it may not be on the same day but it happens. I ALSO make tips and have since the site first started. Maybe not as many but I still made them, eitherway I've had a good time and been paid every time and haven't had any problems! Thank you Jane and Greg for all the help! Sorry for everyone else if you've had problems but my experience has so far been overall pretty good. :)
At the risk of stepping into the firing line: obvious troll is obvious.
Solid first post on your first day as an SW member OP. Super solid. Many thanks. #Sarcasm
storybrooke
03-02-2015, 11:25 AM
At the risk of stepping into the firing line: obvious troll is obvious.
Solid first post on your first day as an SW member OP. Super solid. Many thanks. #Sarcasm
Ya ok. Except I'm not retarded and don't call people trolls because the post isn't what I want it to say.
storybrooke
03-02-2015, 11:26 AM
At the risk of stepping into the firing line: obvious troll is obvious.
Solid first post on your first day as an SW member OP. Super solid. Many thanks. #Sarcasm
also maybe if you didn't go around calling people trolls you would get tipped ;) just a thought though..
Bootsie
03-02-2015, 11:38 AM
I have been having a wonderful time working this site Jane and Greg have been nothing but helpful and nice to me. I've gotten paid every week it may not be on the same day but it happens. I ALSO make tips and have since the site first started. Maybe not as many but I still made them, eitherway I've had a good time and been paid every time and haven't had any problems! Thank you Jane and Greg for all the help! Sorry for everyone else if you've had problems but my experience has so far been overall pretty good. :)
Cool story, bro(oke). As someone with 0 credibility on here, you ARE going to get called a troll, especially specifically jumping into this. If you have details about who you are in camland, okay. Example is Hyori, who has done well on FWC, but also posts elsewhere in a way that she comes off as a legit camgirl. You stepping in to say "EVERYTHING IS AWESOME AND YOU ARE ALL LOSERS WHO ARE UGLY AND RETARDED AND YOU DESERVE NO MONEEEEEEEEEZ" well...nice moves.
storybrooke
03-02-2015, 11:45 AM
Cool story, bro(oke). As someone with 0 credibility on here, you ARE going to get called a troll, especially specifically jumping into this. If you have details about who you are in camland, okay. Example is Hyori, who has done well on FWC, but also posts elsewhere in a way that she comes off as a legit camgirl. You stepping in to say "EVERYTHING IS AWESOME AND YOU ARE ALL LOSERS WHO ARE UGLY AND RETARDED AND YOU DESERVE NO MONEEEEEEEEEZ" well...nice moves.
Except I didn't say any of that. So you must be speaking of yourself. REASON I'm on here is because I wanted to let everyone know that I have had ZERO problems with them. Which was obviously needed because people can only come on here to talk crap. Scuuuuuse me for wanting to say how they were treating ME Obviously my nice demeanor has gotten me farther so take notes. Also because everyone on here is so DAMN rude I dont want you to know who I am in fear of being harassed for simply stating an opinion. SO SORRY NOT SORRY
loveshooks
03-02-2015, 11:52 AM
this thread really doesn't need to get any uglier than it is already
@brooke, it's great that you've had a positive experience with FWC. That doesn't hold true across the board though, in that some models have been screwed over by that site and had their earnings deducted retroactively. they are understandably upset by the way they were treated by FWC
I don't think anyone begrudges you your positive experience, I think it's a matter of emotion still running high because chicas (myself included here) are outraged that our peers worked the site in good faith and didn't get paid the funds they were promised. I hope you can imagine how those models feel
this really doesn't need to turn into a big fight, ultimately we're all on the same side here
wishing everyone a wicked money day, on sites that actually fucking pay
hyori
03-02-2015, 11:57 AM
I thought it was nice to read some positive things about this site but wow, storybrooke, you are just a mean bitch. A cohesive opinion from an intelligent person would include facts and generalisms that back up an argument in a persuasive way. Clearly, your ghetto mentality causes you to portray yourself in a very unflattering manner.
Oh and thank you to bootsie for the creds, love you girlie!
Bootsie
03-02-2015, 11:59 AM
Ya ok. Except I'm not retarded and don't call people trolls because the post isn't what I want it to say.
That is a quote. You're not retarded and don't x,y,z. If you're saying that isn't calling someone retarded, you need to learn about sentence structure, stat.
You know what? This was a nice place, StripperWeb. And this particular thread has gone off the rails? Why? Because another cammodel made the decision to take a cut of the action of other cammodels. That would be fine (see Katy Boleyn and Loveshooks as other examples), but when things went wrong, Jane Burgess decided that she was going to save herself, regardless of who she threw to the wolves. I realize that you don't know the posters on here because you are new to these parts, but some VERY nice, friendly, hardworking girls got ripped off, and some of them got ripped off for well over $100.
Jane RUINED her reputation on this site by dropping those girls in the shit and standing up for the shitty behaviour of the owner of the cam site rather than standing up for the models she was making money off of. A studio is SUPPOSED to represent you and provide a service that justifies their cut of your earnings. We bitch ALL THE DAMN TIME on here about the shitty virtual studios that take your money and give you nothing in return. Nobody expected a camgirl to open that kind of studio, but Jane did.
Build some reputation on here, post in some other threads, become more than just a cardboard cutout upping yourself, Jane Greg, and putting everyone else down. Of course, you don't need camgirl friends, because you are sooooo much better than all of us. Sorry you couldn't roll with any criticism. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta fire up my lightsaber and go cut down some trolls while making shit-tons of money.
Bootsie
03-02-2015, 12:00 PM
Sorry, didn't refresh before I posted but I think it had to be said re: studios taking advantage and a camgirl taking advantage. Because that pisses me off most of all.
SweetJulia
03-02-2015, 12:03 PM
Still not convinced to join. Besides very few positive comments, many ladies were cheated out of money. Plus, despite being a cash cow on every site I work on, I'm curvier and have six rather large tattoos. I don't see too many on there who look like me. Here's my link, analxjulia.cammodels.com maybe someone on there-or even Jane herself, can tell me my chances of being hired. If I manage to, I'll start asap and report on my experience with honesty-be it good, bad, or ugly.
storybrooke
03-02-2015, 12:03 PM
That is a quote. You're not retarded and don't x,y,z. If you're saying that isn't calling someone retarded, you need to learn about sentence structure, stat.
You know what? This was a nice place, StripperWeb. And this particular thread has gone off the rails? Why? Because another cammodel made the decision to take a cut of the action of other cammodels. That would be fine (see Katy Boleyn and Loveshooks as other examples), but when things went wrong, Jane Burgess decided that she was going to save herself, regardless of who she threw to the wolves. I realize that you don't know the posters on here because you are new to these parts, but some VERY nice, friendly, hardworking girls got ripped off, and some of them got ripped off for well over $100.
Jane RUINED her reputation on this site by dropping those girls in the shit and standing up for the shitty behaviour of the owner of the cam site rather than standing up for the models she was making money off of. A studio is SUPPOSED to represent you and provide a service that justifies their cut of your earnings. We bitch ALL THE DAMN TIME on here about the shitty virtual studios that take your money and give you nothing in return. Nobody expected a camgirl to open that kind of studio, but Jane did.
Build some reputation on here, post in some other threads, become more than just a cardboard cutout upping yourself, Jane Greg, and putting everyone else down. Of course, you don't need camgirl friends, because you are sooooo much better than all of us. Sorry you couldn't roll with any criticism. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta fire up my lightsaber and go cut down some trolls while making shit-tons of money.
Except I make 4000 a month with a 40 hour a week schedule. So please say it to my ass because my face it to busy looking at my wallet.
hyori
03-02-2015, 12:09 PM
Except I make 4000 a month with a 40 hour a week schedule. So please say it to my ass because my face it to busy looking at my wallet.
LMAO, we'll just let her express herself. Maybe treat her to a cookie.
Bootsie
03-02-2015, 12:09 PM
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/jimifunguzz/yoda-lightsaber-gif.gif
Issabelle
03-02-2015, 12:12 PM
LMAO, we'll just let her express herself. Maybe treat her to a cookie.
Girl, I realize you're taken, but will you consider a marriage proposal from me? We would have the sassiest children on earth.
hyori
03-02-2015, 12:15 PM
Girl, I realize you're taken, but will you consider a marriage proposal from me? We would have the sassiest children on earth.
Girl we would raise evolution to the next stage! LOL.
SweetJulia
03-02-2015, 12:50 PM
Girl we would raise evolution to the next stage! LOL.
If things don't work out with Isabelle, can I bet the back up. I'm cute, big ass, flat stomach, tattoos-and I give a hell of a massage :D
Nikki_Fox
03-02-2015, 01:00 PM
say it to my ass because my face it to busy looking at my wallet.
Not in any way condoning or try to encourage any further debate with you ladies - but - that is some funny shit
@storybrooke you have to understand where these ladies are coming from - we are a pretty tight knit group on SW and the incidents mentioned in this thread are real - are there ladies who have a had a different experience - yes - they have come on here and stated the same things you have - @hyori as an example - that does not mean the negative things didnt happen - you are brand new to the site posting in a very heated - sensitive thread - these things happened to comrades - I think your post came across as minimizing the damage the ladies have experienced on FWC - - you being new and confrontational is probably not the best way to establish yourself here - put yourself in their shoes and imagine how you would feel - hopefully everyone can take a step back and see things from the other side
BritishBecky
03-02-2015, 03:37 PM
@storybrooke welcome to the forum. I'm sure once you have read all the tips here you will start making more than your $25/hour. Not sure that will be on freewebcams.com though!
JaneBurgess
03-02-2015, 03:44 PM
That is a quote. You're not retarded and don't x,y,z. If you're saying that isn't calling someone retarded, you need to learn about sentence structure, stat.
You know what? This was a nice place, StripperWeb. And this particular thread has gone off the rails? Why? Because another cammodel made the decision to take a cut of the action of other cammodels. That would be fine (see Katy Boleyn and Loveshooks as other examples), but when things went wrong, Jane Burgess decided that she was going to save herself, regardless of who she threw to the wolves. I realize that you don't know the posters on here because you are new to these parts, but some VERY nice, friendly, hardworking girls got ripped off, and some of them got ripped off for well over $100.
Jane RUINED her reputation on this site by dropping those girls in the shit and standing up for the shitty behaviour of the owner of the cam site rather than standing up for the models she was making money off of. A studio is SUPPOSED to represent you and provide a service that justifies their cut of your earnings. We bitch ALL THE DAMN TIME on here about the shitty virtual studios that take your money and give you nothing in return. Nobody expected a camgirl to open that kind of studio, but Jane did.
Build some reputation on here, post in some other threads, become more than just a cardboard cutout upping yourself, Jane Greg, and putting everyone else down. Of course, you don't need camgirl friends, because you are sooooo much better than all of us. Sorry you couldn't roll with any criticism. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta fire up my lightsaber and go cut down some trolls while making shit-tons of money.
Heres the deal, you did not earn any tokens in 5.76 hours of leeching hourly pay, you have to work very hard to NOT earn any tokens in that long a time. The reason for the hourly is to help build traffic and allow a model income while the site grows. Another perfomer the same week also earned no tokens, but she understood when FWC did not pay US, so are we to pay you out of our pocket because you dont care to try to earn tokens. The second perfomer who had no tokens, still works, and makes sure there are tokens earned. You did not get ripped off, and out of 65 models TWO are kicked off or have not been paid. You because of no tokens, and the other because she was not paying attention and was letting PMs go without replying.
In addition, Greg has been working with FWC as to get the unpaid hourly back on behalf of you and the other model, however, their accounting department refuses to pay, and we are working on another solution to get you paid
BritishBecky
03-02-2015, 03:50 PM
erm... I thought I was unshockable but that did it for me! Jane, your agreement is to pay the models the hourly. The risk is yours. You get the 10% when things go well. Sometimes they don't and you lose out. What exactly are you there for? Just to skim 10% - for what? Or is that what you charge for unprofessional, rude and insulting public forum outings?
RaeRae
03-02-2015, 04:02 PM
Jane, where do you get off posting any monetary information about what a model has made openly and connecting it with their SW name? How unprofessional can you be?