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space_cowgirl
11-17-2015, 03:05 PM
Honestly I'm sorry you had issues, but the fact is the site no longer wanted to work with you because they were not happy with your performance. You never once mention that in your complaints, just how everyone is inept. I'm at the point where I will no longer tolerate your constant insults against me.

Good grief. For the millionth time, the issue was that the site never notified me of that, and you fought paying me. *I* and the other performers who had to deal with you are the ones who were insulted. I just want to warn people not to get involved.

Tsani
11-17-2015, 03:14 PM
I'd rather work for a site directly and worry about my own performance and money (or lack thereof) than sign up for a studio where my performance is under constant scrutiny and they feel justified in withholding earnings from models based on their opinions of their performance... which could have been stellar, but the customers were too cheap to want to pay for it.

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JaneBurgess
11-17-2015, 03:53 PM
I would have to say no. I would suggest that anyone wanting to join the site read this thread. Its a long thread to say the least, but it's full of good info. All the threads on here about cam sites should be read if you want to join one.



Jesus. It's been almost a full year since the site ownership retroactively pulled my hourly pay and dumped it in the lap of the studio owner to try to explain. You would seriously think they'd have unfucked their shit by now, but I guess not huh?

Just to be clear ladies: I wouldn't go near this site with a 30 foot pole. They fucked models coming, going, and in the middle. So, you know, fair warning. If you have any questions, please scroll back to the start of this thread and prepare for 28 pages of shittery including 1) random rejection of models based on bizarre esthetic guidelines, 2) retroactive pay policy changes, 3) at least one suspected instance of someone affiliated with the site coming in here and pretending to be a model singing their praises, 4) really shitty traffic (last I checked, anyway), and much, much more!

justanothercamgirl
11-17-2015, 04:35 PM
I would have to say no. I would suggest that anyone wanting to join the site read this thread. Its a long thread to say the least, but it's full of good info. All the threads on here about cam sites should be read if you want to join one.

I also would like to point out that you should always take the advice of people who are studios owners with a grain of salt.

I am not saying this as a personal attack on you Jane. I would say this in general of all studio owners.

All advice is not equal. Whether or not a conflict of interest exists should always be considered.

space_cowgirl
11-17-2015, 09:02 PM
What's been said in this thread should serve as an ample warning to other camgirls, and that's the important thing.

maryberries
12-02-2015, 12:16 PM
Can anyone tell me a way to contact someone regarding not receiving my payments on Freewebcams.com? It kind of seems like customer service on this site is non-existent, especially if it's a model needing help and not a paying customer. Any help is greatly appreciated!

space_cowgirl
12-02-2015, 02:51 PM
I have email addresses of [email protected] and [email protected] Good luck getting your payment!

shyoncam
12-05-2015, 08:30 PM
Mayberries do you work for Jane's studio or for the site? I'm in the same boat as you waiting on several checks from Jane which totaling approx $2000 dating back to early October. It seems from what Jose has said that they are sending the money to her but she's not sending it out. But I'm still waiting for him to find out more. Good luck getting any answers from Jane or her husband. Last I emailed her about this to tell her the checks stopped coming again and I will contact her husband since he was in charge of sending those payments for some reason. She didn't even bother to give me an explanation, and her husband is not replying to my email for more than 3 days now.

space_cowgirl
12-06-2015, 02:53 PM
Extremely sorry to hear that this is still going on.

shyoncam
12-07-2015, 11:45 AM
I will be updating this if I hear anything back from the site, and checking periodically to bump this thread. if anyone has got information what is going on with Jane please post it here or pm it to me.

audritwo
12-07-2015, 01:50 PM
Threaten to take her to small claims. But follow through this threat.

JaneBurgess
12-07-2015, 11:32 PM
I didnt want to take this on here, but Jose is not telling the accurate truth. They have shorted payments the last few weeks and havent paid the difference yet. They also owe me personally 900 that I paid out to performers they didnt pay. The last email you sent me asked me to have Greg contact you which I did. I will have to handle this myself since he clearly isnt doing it. I sent you an e-mail about it.

Greg did give you an explanation before, we all were copied in the emails.




Mayberries do you work for Jane's studio or for the site? I'm in the same boat as you waiting on several checks from Jane which totaling approx $2000 dating back to early October. It seems from what Jose has said that they are sending the money to her but she's not sending it out. But I'm still waiting for him to find out more. Good luck getting any answers from Jane or her husband. Last I emailed her about this to tell her the checks stopped coming again and I will contact her husband since he was in charge of sending those payments for some reason. She didn't even bother to give me an explanation, and her husband is not replying to my email for more than 3 days now.

space_cowgirl
12-08-2015, 10:08 AM
When will she be paid all the money she is owed?

shyoncam
12-08-2015, 11:17 AM
Jane the point is that you both knew and no one did anything to solve the problem. I never got an explanation because Greg never wrote back. I'm not a fussy person but this wasn't a new problem it's ongoing with me trying to still collect payments from early October, so being given to someone else to handle it who then never writes back starts to feel like your getting the run around. I hope you understand that.

space_cowgirl
12-08-2015, 11:37 AM
Jane, I have a question. You had experience with FWC not paying you properly dating back to over a year ago when I was fucked over. Why is it that you've remained a studio with them, and taken on new models into your studio, if you knew that the site wasn't paying you consistently, and you are either unwilling or unable to pay the models yourself and deal with the studio payments as they come in?

space_cowgirl
12-13-2015, 12:48 PM
^bump
Shy and Mary, did you get paid yet?

shyoncam
12-14-2015, 01:29 AM
Yes I got issued a notice from her bank that the payments in progress at least most of it and I'm supposed to get another one for the rest. It should be coming today or tomorrow.

space_cowgirl
12-15-2015, 05:27 PM
Glad to hear it! What a nightmare.

shyoncam
12-17-2015, 05:02 PM
I really wish i could say this is entirely worked out but there's still another payment for $600 which ive been waiting on all week. I can't see it taking more than another day or two.

maryberries
12-18-2015, 11:10 AM
I was paid on Monday for the entire amount that was owed to me.

shyoncam
12-18-2015, 01:35 PM
The deposit I was waiting for came last night. So November is all paid up now. And Jane gave her word that she will be taking over the payments again so I feel good about that. I never really had any issues till recent months with payments. maybe now things will go smoother again.

space_cowgirl
12-19-2015, 02:38 PM
Wow. I am very surprised that you still want to work with them. Well, good luck.

SweetJulia
01-17-2016, 09:56 PM
Do they still offer an hourly bonus. If so, how much? And how engaging do you have to be to keep it? Cuz I'll smile and tease, but no flashes-requests unless paid for.

space_cowgirl
01-18-2016, 08:43 AM
Do they still offer an hourly bonus. If so, how much? And how engaging do you have to be to keep it? Cuz I'll smile and tease, but no flashes-requests unless paid for.

Please read this whole thread before considering working with them. Also, I highly recommend NOT working with Jane's studio, for the reasons outlined in this thread. Work directly with the company if you really want to deal with them at all.

DelishIrish
02-13-2016, 08:19 PM
Bump post by SW newbie
Alright wow, certainly thanking the universe for bringing me here. Note that I have never worked for/with a studio, so THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JANE as I do not know her. I came to FWC by way of a current model referral, which is why (Tim approved) I have earned $20/hr since June 2015. I was never told the hourly was dependent on my tokens tipped, nor that I had to work a minimum number of hours. Fast forward to December 2015, two missed payments (that I haven't received to this day, totaling a lousy $75 because I was on vacation in Europe that month). I always expected payments Friday or Monday, but there was one time I didn't get my DD until Wednesday.
Now recently I was waiting for a larger check which I was afraid wouldn't come after not seeing it Friday night, so I emailed 3 of the 4 contacts provided. Nowhere on the main page does it say which of these four people handle what, or I would have only emailed Jose since learning he does payroll stuff from this thread.

Andrea & Chrissy got back to me, not Jose, and Andrea told me that my hourly was going away in two weeks because I wasn't "meeting requirements"
*Cough requirements I was never told about* She also seemed taken aback and was almost mocking me upon hearing I had been stiffed in December, which I was not used to. I have no reason to lie about $75, wtf? There is adequate proof--it can be seen in my damn time card log for christ's sake. Anyway, I emailed her back stating I will no longer be active on the site in response to my hourly disappearing. I do not deem FWC worthy of my time.

A little about me as model, I greet everyone who enters my room and am known as a more conversational model. I am not a deer in the headlights, and I have chatters consistently praising me for this. There are still a lot of non-Americans doing anal in free chat for a mere 1-5 tokens which doesn't even earn you a fkn dollar. The site didn't have enough ppl willing to pay reasonable rates, and unfortunately a lot of my regulars only tipped me once a month.

Wow this is long and I apologize. In summary, I AM SO GLAD I'M LEAVING. I have just applied for internetchatmodels (which I sadly haven't found any research on) claiming $8-11/hr, so it wouldn't be as bad losing compared to $20/hr. FWC should check themselves because if highly engaging and constantly teasing models like myself do not meet their standards, goddess help them. Most traffic = beggars imo.
Thanks to this thread for not making me regret letting Andrea know I am better off going elsewhere.

Tsani
02-14-2016, 01:45 AM
Welcome to SW, Delish! Glad you found this forum and realized that FWC wasn't worth your time anymore. However, I'd be careful with internetchatmodels as well. I'm not familiar with them myself and I didn't look too far into it as I'm heading to bed at the moment, but just from a quick glance at their website I'm almost certain they're another studio. If you haven't already, I suggest you read this thread on how to sign up for sites directly and avoid studios: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?160099-How-to-sign-up-for-sites-directly-to-earn-more-(aka-avoid-studios)

Yes I know, you probably won't get hourly rates if you don't work through a studio but avoiding them will generally save you a lot of trouble in the long run. There are a few cam sites that offer hourly pay directly through the site via promos (Cam4 is one, but you have to be new to their site). And there is one studio that I, and many others here can vouch for as being non-shady and awesome, which is Boleyn Models. So while there are exceptions to the rules, I would steer clear of other studios in general and anyone making hourly rate claims. There's one studio that's so bad that their name gets censored on here and the name is strangely similar to internetchatmodels so I would definitely look deeper into that one before working for them.

DelishIrish
02-14-2016, 02:19 AM
Hi, and thanks very much for the info! I learned what non-physical studios were earlier today thanks to SW! Unfortunately this was after I signed up hah. I did try to get more info on internetchatmodels through my own research to no avail. I skimmed the thread on here though. If the response/approval email I receive, as well as the main model login pages & setup, aren't to my liking, I might not even start and just move on.
I am not familiar with Cam4 so I'm eager to check 'em out. It'll be hard to go back to non-hourly sites after being on two, but I think you're right that avoiding that will serve me best in the long haul. Given my current living situation, I can't stream as many hours as I'd like, or what time of night I'd like, which is why I was working those sites.

Issabelle
02-14-2016, 12:46 PM
Hi, and thanks very much for the info! I learned what non-physical studios were earlier today thanks to SW! Unfortunately this was after I signed up hah. I did try to get more info on internetchatmodels through my own research to no avail. I skimmed the thread on here though. If the response/approval email I receive, as well as the main model login pages & setup, aren't to my liking, I might not even start and just move on.
I am not familiar with Cam4 so I'm eager to check 'em out. It'll be hard to go back to non-hourly sites after being on two, but I think you're right that avoiding that will serve me best in the long haul. Given my current living situation, I can't stream as many hours as I'd like, or what time of night I'd like, which is why I was working those sites.

When it comes to cam sites, if it is a studio you're not usually locked in until you actually stream for the first time. Therefore, starting the application doesn't fuck you over. That said, it's not a good sign when Tsani doesn't know details about a site off the top of her head as she runs another sister forum and site that provide information about sites and the industry to other models.

SweetJulia
02-14-2016, 01:32 PM
Welcome:) Sorry it's for such a lousy reason. I was going to sign up for this site and split it with Cam4 to be guaranteed 25 an hour When it was dead. I doubt I'll be able to live up to whatever standards they demand. Does anyone have it in text, since I'm sure it's in the sign up paperwork? Or was it just throw in along the way? I was so excited to see a model owned site at first, but honestly, it seems so awful I'm not even going to sign up. To delish, DO NOT stream from the studio name. Make an independent account and stream from that. Welcome to SW, sorry it's not for a good reason. I found this site when I googled that a customer tried to charge back, to make sure it was them sucking, not the two hour cam show, complete with script, I just got done with. Instead of a thank you at the end, I got "I'm gonna get my money back" cuz he thought pay by the minute meant he'd only be charged for one minute. Well, I got the whole 300, I'm just pissed his wife probably didn't find out, cuz he was So worried about that. Anyways, I so wish this site actually Did what they claimed to. Or, at least, inform performers of rule changes as soon as they decided on it-cuz it got too expensive, the site didn't take off as quickly as hoped, etc.. Not getting a promised amount of money affects how many performers log in after finding out, and for how long. Yes, this sucks for you as a site, but being seen as dishonest, and making potential performers hesitant or (here, officially unwilling) hurts you much more as a site in the long run. For the record, I would have had a grand or two set aside to pay performers what they felt they were owed out of pocket to avoid getting a bad reputation in the long run. It really sucks, Cuz if they really paid 25 hourly on top of tips/privates, I'd be more willing to stay on when it was slow, advertise on social media, etc..

DelishIrish
02-15-2016, 12:02 AM
Yeah, the concept of having a model go from $20/hr down to $0 is bananas to me. I've been camming a little less than 3 years, I know hourly pay in free chat isn't common, but it's like why can't you start lower? Decrease or increase based on model performance INFORMING MODEL OF ALL CONDITIONS & POSSIBILITIES when she/he is FIRST approved. Before camming, I worked for a corporation for 6 years, only to earn $9/hr (minimum wage here in MN is $7.25) so me personally, I'd be fine with $10/hr. Bring it down to $5, idc. But how do these sites intend to retain models starting off so high then taking it all away? Half of them don't care to I suppose...

shyoncam
02-15-2016, 09:59 AM
Did anyone else receive an email from Jane's Studio that says freewebcams is not paying hourly rates anymore effective starting today?

This is the email I received from Greg:

Just wanted to let you know that freewebcams has had new investors and
they have decided to stop paying hourly rates as of the end of the pay
period, which is 12:01 am Pacific (3:01am EST) Monday the 15th, so all
hours through this period will receive hourly rate.

I am wondering if just the girls working for this particular studio are no longer receiving an hourly rate or if the hourly has been abolished for
everyone working the site?

JaneBurgess
02-15-2016, 01:30 PM
Did anyone else receive an email from Jane's Studio that says freewebcams is not paying hourly rates anymore effective starting today?

This is the email I received from Greg:

Just wanted to let you know that freewebcams has had new investors and
they have decided to stop paying hourly rates as of the end of the pay
period, which is 12:01 am Pacific (3:01am EST) Monday the 15th, so all
hours through this period will receive hourly rate.

I am wondering if just the girls working for this particular studio are no longer receiving an hourly rate or if the hourly has been abolished for
everyone working the site?



Its cut off for every performer on the site they said. The new management thinks that no one should be paid an hourly wage. They have been paying it for the last 18 months, so Im guessing they are losing money paying it to so many performers. I believe the only ones still getting it are their contracted porn performers.

JaneBurgess
02-15-2016, 01:37 PM
Bump post by SW newbie
Alright wow, certainly thanking the universe for bringing me here. Note that I have never worked for/with a studio, so THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JANE as I do not know her. I came to FWC by way of a current model referral, which is why (Tim approved) I have earned $20/hr since June 2015. I was never told the hourly was dependent on my tokens tipped, nor that I had to work a minimum number of hours. Fast forward to December 2015, two missed payments (that I haven't received to this day, totaling a lousy $75 because I was on vacation in Europe that month). I always expected payments Friday or Monday, but there was one time I didn't get my DD until Wednesday.
Now recently I was waiting for a larger check which I was afraid wouldn't come after not seeing it Friday night, so I emailed 3 of the 4 contacts provided. Nowhere on the main page does it say which of these four people handle what, or I would have only emailed Jose since learning he does payroll stuff from this thread.

Andrea & Chrissy got back to me, not Jose, and Andrea told me that my hourly was going away in two weeks because I wasn't "meeting requirements"
*Cough requirements I was never told about* She also seemed taken aback and was almost mocking me upon hearing I had been stiffed in December, which I was not used to. I have no reason to lie about $75, wtf? There is adequate proof--it can be seen in my damn time card log for christ's sake. Anyway, I emailed her back stating I will no longer be active on the site in response to my hourly disappearing. I do not deem FWC worthy of my time.

A little about me as model, I greet everyone who enters my room and am known as a more conversational model. I am not a deer in the headlights, and I have chatters consistently praising me for this. There are still a lot of non-Americans doing anal in free chat for a mere 1-5 tokens which doesn't even earn you a fkn dollar. The site didn't have enough ppl willing to pay reasonable rates, and unfortunately a lot of my regulars only tipped me once a month.

Wow this is long and I apologize. In summary, I AM SO GLAD I'M LEAVING. I have just applied for internetchatmodels (which I sadly haven't found any research on) claiming $8-11/hr, so it wouldn't be as bad losing compared to $20/hr. FWC should check themselves because if highly engaging and constantly teasing models like myself do not meet their standards, goddess help them. Most traffic = beggars imo.
Thanks to this thread for not making me regret letting Andrea know I am better off going elsewhere.



Thats pretty much what they do. They change rules as they go and than try to enforce them after people have worked. The no token no hourly rule came at the end of a week. They refused to pay any model who didnt earn tokens their hourly for that week. I told them they have a right to change rules, but performers should be given at least a weeks notice to read the new rules and prepare for them. I hope the new owner overhauls the site and makes it a better place for everyone.

SweetJulia
02-15-2016, 04:19 PM
Sometimes the guys have to click on a sound icon in the upper right corner of their screen. ;)


Did anyone else receive an email from Jane's Studio that says freewebcams is not paying hourly rates anymore effective starting today?

This is the email I received from Greg:

Just wanted to let you know that freewebcams has had new investors and
they have decided to stop paying hourly rates as of the end of the pay
period, which is 12:01 am Pacific (3:01am EST) Monday the 15th, so all
hours through this period will receive hourly rate.

I am wondering if just the girls working for this particular studio are no longer receiving an hourly rate or if the hourly has been abolished for
everyone working the site?

Wooo look-guess no one's getting approved for hourly now if the whole program's going under in a month?

DelishIrish
02-19-2016, 03:02 PM
Pleased to report I received everything I earned from hourly in my account today, even the money from December was included in this DD. Very happy lady here!

Moving right along to a new site.

maryberries
03-07-2016, 10:12 AM
Jane's studio still hasn't paid me for my last two weeks of hourly and earnings before they cut hourly from everyone. Does anyone have some contact info. for Andrea and Chrissy with the site? Thanks!

SamanthaSugar
03-07-2016, 04:28 PM
Jane's studio still hasn't paid me for my last two weeks of hourly and earnings before they cut hourly from everyone. Does anyone have some contact info. for Andrea and Chrissy with the site? Thanks!

Here ya go sweets :)

[email protected]

JaneBurgess
03-07-2016, 04:32 PM
Jane's studio still hasn't paid me for my last two weeks of hourly and earnings before they cut hourly from everyone. Does anyone have some contact info. for Andrea and Chrissy with the site? Thanks!


Everyone has been paid out. Hourly was cut off the 14th, after that you have to earn at least $100 to be paid out from them.

shyoncam
03-08-2016, 07:39 AM
No everyone has not been paid out. I haven't been paid yet either and for the same weeks feb 1 - 14th.

Jane you should track these payments for more details since they did not come to us. Also when you say hourly was cut on the 14th you mean February 14th right? because thats when we got the emails telling us, and the last time I was paid was the last week in January.

space_cowgirl
03-09-2016, 11:12 AM
^bump

Sorry to hear it. :/

I'm glad we have each other to warn about studios/sites like this.

Lulaa
03-14-2016, 01:30 PM
I have not been paid for January. Greg and Jane said they were going to pay me but they just ignore my emails.

Nocturnelle
03-14-2016, 02:09 PM
This is so beyond fucked up. I'm sorry you ladies have to deal with this mess.

space_cowgirl
03-14-2016, 08:17 PM
I have email addresses of [email protected] and [email protected] Good luck getting your payment, and getting away from these shady people.

I said this before, and I'll say it again:
Jane, I have a question. You had experience with FWC not paying you properly dating back to over a year ago when I was fucked over. Why is it that you've remained a studio with them, and taken on new models into your studio, if you knew that the site wasn't paying you consistently, and you are either unwilling or unable to pay the models yourself and deal with the studio payments as they come in?

TheBrownFox
03-15-2016, 08:06 AM
Y'all should've seen how impatient I was just waiting on my tax refund. Lol. I can't even imagine how FURIOUS I'd be having to wait as long as y'all have to receive cam site earnings. :( That's really fucked up. Something like that would result in me not even wanting to broadcast on there again. No cam girl should ever have to track down people to get the money she's earned. SMH.

I really feel for you ladies. I remember when, years ago, I cammed for a Webcams.com studio and was expecting a $100 payment that I NEVER got. It's awful feeling like you've worked for free.

space_cowgirl
03-15-2016, 08:11 PM
Particularly when her earnings are being held by a fellow camgirl.

space_cowgirl
03-16-2016, 03:43 PM
Bump

Luaa and shy, have you heard anything about your payments?

space_cowgirl
03-22-2016, 09:00 AM
Any news on your payments from Jane?

Lulaa
03-24-2016, 09:59 PM
Any news on your payments from Jane?


Jose from the site told me I am getting paid directly by them tomorrow. He said Jane did not pay models off and they are sending her to collections? He also said "this is 100% all her, we paid her all, technically stole...."

She then finally emailed me today saying Jose is paying me directly and I am no longer under her studio for reasons she can't discuss. I guess they cut ties of with her.

shyoncam
03-25-2016, 11:56 AM
I was also told they would pay me directly if Jane didn't pay, so it looks like that is what will happen. I got the same email that Jane sent Lulaa which says that I should contact the site for my money.

space_cowgirl
03-27-2016, 12:41 PM
I hope the site pays you both everything you are owed this week.

What a shame that a veteran cam model (Jane) ruined her reputation in the industry. I hope everyone has learned to thoroughly research the people you do business with.