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shyoncam
10-15-2014, 07:49 PM
I wish there was like some kind of nude option, that would be awesome. I know they have group chat... how many are needed to enter group?
I haven't broadcasted yet so I can't answer the thing about group chats but today when I was looking around the site I did notice that one of the models had her room in some kind of hidden mode where her image was covered (atleast to me as a guest) with the picture of a stage with a closed curtain hanging over it. I would love to know if whatever she was doing hid her from non paying members as well as guests. I'm pretty sure she was still present on cam and not away on break or anything like that because the option was still there to go into a private or group session with her.
hyori
10-15-2014, 08:44 PM
I haven't broadcasted yet so I can't answer the thing about group chats but today when I was looking around the site I did notice that one of the models had her room in some kind of hidden mode where her image was covered (atleast to me as a guest) with the picture of a stage with a closed curtain hanging over it. I would love to know if whatever she was doing hid her from non paying members as well as guests. I'm pretty sure she was still present on cam and not away on break or anything like that because the option was still there to go into a private or group session with her.
Thank you, you just answered my earlier question about how i can get peepers during my splitcamming with MFC during a private!
JaneBurgess
10-15-2014, 09:00 PM
I will test it out and see if I can figure it out. Encoder and I have never been friends
I used it today and the encoding is good very little system resources but for the life of me i can't understand how to do the actual splitcamming part because it doesn't show up as a camera choice in other sites.
If anyone else wants to try their encoder the serial number is 123456. To activate the splitcam they told me there is no code but i still don't know how to make this software appear as a camera in MFC etc.
SarahTime
10-15-2014, 11:24 PM
So I was approved and online streaming...
... then I get a pop up saying I've been disconnected by "admin" because my "video was frozen". Which it wasn't because hubby was watching at the time.
So I try to reconnect, it says I'm suspended. I log into my email, it says I've been rejected. AFTER I've been approved and streaming.... sooooo......
Not sure what's up but if I have to venture a guess... it's because I'm pregnant. We'll see... kind of wasted my time for 5 tokens and $15 in online time...
I've been online 3 hours total though, and I've only been able to be live on the site for 1 hour due to privates on Streamate, so I don't think it would work very well for me anyway since I get too many privates on SM. Which hey, I guess that's a good thing!
laurielegs
10-15-2014, 11:39 PM
OMG Sarah if that really is the reason, damn. These admins need to be educated about what their customers really want.
Have they never heard of fetishes or niches at all?
SarahTime
10-15-2014, 11:51 PM
OMG Sarah if that really is the reason, damn. These admins need to be educated about what their customers really want.
Have they never heard of fetishes or niches at all?
That's just my best guess based on the discrimination they have made to BBWs and MILFs and rejected "fetishy" profile pics.
There was actually quite a bit of guys who liked me being pregnant, even tho they were freeloaders, it's a huge fetish... I don't know why they are so anti-fetish.
LaylaLovely
10-16-2014, 12:00 AM
Might be a glitch Sarah , I was streaming the other day logged of tried to log in again and my password kept bieng wrong ,which it wasn't then it times me out because my password was wrong too many times , I messaged Greg and he confirmed it was the site go glitching came back in 15 minutes and it was back and I could log in. It displayed the message you have been banned or we have too many performers in your ares.
SarahTime
10-16-2014, 12:05 AM
Just been confirmed.... pregnant. lol :)
Oh well...
VelvetRose
10-16-2014, 12:08 AM
Just been confirmed.... pregnant. lol :)
Oh well...
It's totally their loss. Smh.
Busygirl
10-16-2014, 12:13 AM
Anti fetish? More like delusional. I'm thinking, they are thinking, since they will pay $15 an hour the models applying should be Gisele Bundchen themselves, otherwise they aren't willing to pay "soooo much money". And since they are paying, they think they can discriminate to their hearts content, because of the "promise" of pay, will bring in lots of "desperate" camgirls, from who they can discriminate from. It's their right though.
A begginer site should take ALL, who are willing, and kiss their footsteps of whomever they are getting. You know who else does this: mgf who you keep complaining about, and all the other sites, that did not survive or make it big, or disappeared. I can't even believe all the best cam girls are wasting their time applying. I guess just for shits and giggles. And the hourly pay? Never lasted, never will. All screams too much trouble to even bother. You should not be asking if this site if it's going to consider you, it should be the other way around.
SarahTime
10-16-2014, 12:22 AM
Anti fetish? More like delusional. I'm thinking, they are thinking, since they will pay $15 an hour the models applying should be Gisele Bundchen themselves, otherwise they aren't willing to pay "soooo much money". And since they are paying, they think they can discriminate to their hearts content, because of the "promise" of pay, will bring in lots of "desperate" camgirls, from who they can discriminate from. It's their right though.
A begginer site should take ALL, who are willing, and kiss their footsteps of whomever they are getting. You know who else does this: mgf who you keep complaining about, and all the other sites, that did not survive or make it big, or disappeared. I can't even believe all the best cam girls are wasting their time applying. I guess just for shits and giggles. And the hourly pay? Never lasted, never will. All screams too much trouble to even bother. You should not be asking if this site if it's going to consider you, it should be the other way around.
Yeah... I agree. I kind of feel like I should have known better. I am always looking for "more eggs" in my basket and really, I hate token sites! LOL! Hate them... a lot. But I guess with the $15 an hour guaranteed pay it seemed like it was worth a shot. I mean it SOUNDS really good, especially when I'll be unable to work a lot after I have the baby, it was like okay this will be a good way to just do stuff for tokens, make an hourly pay, and recover from the delivery.
But then, I spent 2 nights in a row trying to get it working. First night I was trying to get a feel for it. Tonight, I downloaded the encoder they have and it made my PC not go past the "Windows" screen when you first start it up, so hubby had to spend time figuring out what happened. Had to uninstall the program and reinstall it WITHOUT doing the update it asks you to do. It was weird. So I lost combined, at least 5 hours I would have normally been online on SM and cams.com.
So yah... I'm not too heart broken about it, other than thinking to myself "SARAH YOU KNOW BETTER!". I think they are shooting themselves in the foot big time by rejecting anyone that they personally do not consider "attractive", because they are cutting out a lot of potential.
But THANK YOU JANE for giving us this opportunity anyway! Maybe it will work out for others. You can keep the $15 and change for all the hard work you and Greg have been doing lol ;) I do appreciate the help both of you gave me the last two days.
LaylaLovely
10-16-2014, 12:22 AM
What?? I have to admit I do feel some pressure against these girls , usually I feel like webcam girls are all different and there are guys for each one of us, but with this there are a lot of the same girls all competing for the same type of guy that likes more of the mainstream porn kind of girl lol, if you check out the website it has all the porn stars and all the porn vids and then the live cam section. I did change my profile pic to be more mainstream than my old fetish one
Busygirl
10-16-2014, 12:27 AM
And also, it screams CHEAP. Probably they have very limited payout for that hourly, so they are very selective who they are going to give it to, also the site bandwidth probably can't support getting many performers, so they try to be selective to keep numbers down. Also, if performers already approved will perform for a few hours, then getting suspended, for whatever reason and not payed, they are keeping the site alive for free, and doing free promotion for them. YOU should be payed for the hours and those 5 tokens to be fair, even if you were "suspended" because you were APPROVED beforehand, otherwise what they are doing is a suspension scam to avoid paying out anyone at the end.
Busygirl
10-16-2014, 01:01 AM
Obviously they suck at web search too, I mean if I wanted to be selective, I would research the models web presence, and achievements, and if I saw they are making money to other companies, they could look like batzilla for all I cared, they would be hired and begged to stay, or better yet invited to consider my modest camsite.
JaneBurgess
10-16-2014, 01:05 AM
Just been confirmed.... pregnant. lol :)
Oh well...
I have a conference call with Tim in the morning and I'm fighting this. Greg just told me about it and I think they need to allow all niches. Men love pregnant women, bbws, fetish performers, milfs, etc. It cant just be cute Barbie's or the site will fail. I've never seen a site with one look, it just doesn't make any sense.
JaneBurgess
10-16-2014, 01:10 AM
Wish me luck. We have a conference call with them in the morning and I will mention suggestions from here and also try to get them to see they need to be open to more niches. Tim seems open to it but we have to convince his boss. Cam performers come in all looks and if you ban that you kill off a lot of potential customers.
RaineyLane
10-16-2014, 03:15 AM
So... I tried to stream using their encoder and it apparently shuts down the adobe encoder. Used the "split stream" button and a pop up asked for an activation code. Tried the 123456 and nothing happened. Going to a concert tomorrow so it will have to wait. I'm sure it will get figured out...
pinkpink
10-16-2014, 05:32 AM
I'm confused. People are saying they are using FWC encoder....I just used the SM/Adobe Encoder and I *think* I did it right and it worked fine. Why would I download a different encoder if the Adobe one works fine? Just curious.
hyori
10-16-2014, 06:04 AM
I'm confused. People are saying they are using FWC encoder....I just used the SM/Adobe Encoder and I *think* I did it right and it worked fine. Why would I download a different encoder if the Adobe one works fine? Just curious.
Most likely if you use FWC encoder you will place higher. I see that i show up on the first page when i'm using it. I still have no clue how to use it for splitcamming. Right now i am using 2 cameras instead to split MFC and FWC. Id prefer to split my DSLR feed though.
EricaErotica
10-16-2014, 06:59 AM
I agree. I think they are being so selective because of the guaranteed $15 per hour. They can't pay this to EVERY single model so they need to impose limits and restrictions. It seems like looks is the criteria they are using. That is one reason why it is so much better to work for sites that are entirely commission based in my opinion.
Anti fetish? More like delusional. I'm thinking, they are thinking, since they will pay $15 an hour the models applying should be Gisele Bundchen themselves, otherwise they aren't willing to pay "soooo much money". And since they are paying, they think they can discriminate to their hearts content, because of the "promise" of pay, will bring in lots of "desperate" camgirls, from who they can discriminate from. It's their right though.
A begginer site should take ALL, who are willing, and kiss their footsteps of whomever they are getting. You know who else does this: mgf who you keep complaining about, and all the other sites, that did not survive or make it big, or disappeared. I can't even believe all the best cam girls are wasting their time applying. I guess just for shits and giggles. And the hourly pay? Never lasted, never will. All screams too much trouble to even bother. You should not be asking if this site if it's going to consider you, it should be the other way around.
Rastafari
10-16-2014, 07:04 AM
Made 200 tokens yesterday for my first shift. I tried split camming with mfc but I couldn't figure it out so I logged off to do my regular mfc shift and made my goal early for the day then came back to fwc for the hourly pay and $10 in tokens lol. Not bad for a brand new site
LaylaLovely
10-16-2014, 08:25 AM
I'm confused. People are saying they are using FWC encoder....I just used the SM/Adobe Encoder and I *think* I did it right and it worked fine. Why would I download a different encoder if the Adobe one works fine? Just curious.
I used the Adobe hd encoder as well but They primarily want us to use there encoder I think.. I finally grasped the whole encoder thing I hope we aren't forced it might delay my time online having to figure it out and all
Rastafari
10-16-2014, 08:32 AM
The FWC encoder is actually really good, does anyone know how to split cam with it?
space_cowgirl
10-16-2014, 09:02 AM
OMG Sarah if that really is the reason, damn. These admins need to be educated about what their customers really want.
Have they never heard of fetishes or niches at all?
Totally agree, they are shooting themselves in the foot if they think having glam girls who love hardcore in free chat is the only way to go. Like...MFC already exists, why just copy that model?
Also, I think those of us that were 'approved' thought it meant we were approved, not that there was some sort of trial period during which the site admins determined us worthy of the hourly pay or not. If they had such narrow definitions of what they wanted and how we should or should not act in free chat, we should have been informed up front.
SimoneGray
10-16-2014, 09:15 AM
Will there be a point when they open applications to girls outside the US? Or who have different citizenship?
hyori
10-16-2014, 09:16 AM
^^ Seriously, look at the success of SM. The front page has top models of all sizes, shapes, fetishes and races. That's the one thing that SM has going for it in a big way. We all know that our customers have the weirdest tastes and requests. And the ones that do will pay respectfully and very highly to get their specific fetish met. They make the best customer. To turn those guys away is just throwing money away. Look at Chaturbate as well, also a token site with all kinds of models that do very well! Come on FWC, don't be a clone of MFC, do your own thang.
LittleLexy
10-16-2014, 10:34 AM
Well...I was going to give it a go, but not so sure anymore. I think it's awful that you get rejected because your pregnant, or your to big. I think I will pass. Thanks Jane for trying
MiraMichele
10-16-2014, 10:44 AM
I still haven't tried it out but I think I'm going to today. I do want to know if the studio or site itself frowns upon drinking though? When I work token sites I make a lot by selling shots, what I usually do is put my room topic something like buy me a shot for 75 tokens and get a free boob or ass flash. Some days I have to have a side of something that looks like the rum I drink cause I get so many requests for shots at once and I can't handle that much, haha, so I do pretty well with this hustle and want to make sure this is ok for this studio and site.
MiraMichele
10-16-2014, 10:46 AM
About all the girls getting rejected for not having the look they want, is this the actual site that doesn't want that look or just the studio?
JaneBurgess
10-16-2014, 11:04 AM
About all the girls getting rejected for not having the look they want, is this the actual site that doesn't want that look or just the studio?
Its the actual cam site. They have the final approval on who they hire and who gets the hourly rate. I submit the info and they have to approve or deny the performer.
JaneBurgess
10-16-2014, 11:09 AM
There isn't a trial period when you're approved. There have been performers that log on and just sit there. So if they feel you aren't trying to engage customers they can take you off the hourly rate. They are paying that get performers on there to help grow the site. Just showing up and not working isnt really fair to them either. All they have asked is performers chat with customers and work their room
EricaErotica
10-16-2014, 11:24 AM
Basically it seems like webcam models need to look at this "opportunity" as if they were applying for a job. If you don't meet certain criteria you will not be hired. If you do not perform your job duties you could get let go. There is more freedom in working for sites where model compensation is entirely commission based.
LaylaLovely
10-16-2014, 11:51 AM
There isn't a trial period when you're approved. There have been performers that log on and just sit there. So if they feel you aren't trying to engage customers they can take you off the hourly rate. They are paying that get performers on there to help grow the site. Just showing up and not working isnt really fair to them either. All they have asked is performers chat with customers and work their room
I agree if we are getting hourly we should have some guidelines for the hourly or we will have ppl taking advantage of this opportunity.
MissQuirk
10-16-2014, 12:15 PM
Just an update in case anyone's curious~
I decided to spend an hour on, not splitting, just to give it my full attention and try to interact with custies as much as possible. I made 85 tokens, which is like...2 dollars? Right? I think my math is correct. $1.70? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I had a few guys say that they were bummed there aren't more BBWs.
Guys were pretty respectful. Only one person really begged for anything. I had fun! Still waiting for my timecard thing to show up on my settings :S I'll feel better when that happens.
I wasn't really sure if I should work it like a token site or like a private site. So I tried to do a count down. Wasn't sure how to price anything so I went super low to try to make a goal. :/
How are you ladies pricing things? I'm torn between saying "well, 2 dollars is better than nothing, maybe I should get naked for less than 100 tokens" and wanting to NOT train these men to be cheap.
JaneBurgess
10-16-2014, 12:19 PM
Thats Streamate now. When I first started on there over six years ago they were strict on who they hired as well. They werent into the alternative look or BBWs back then. Cam sites have evolved to allow performers from all walks of life and this site will in time as well.
^^ Seriously, look at the success of SM. The front page has top models of all sizes, shapes, fetishes and races. That's the one thing that SM has going for it in a big way. We all know that our customers have the weirdest tastes and requests. And the ones that do will pay respectfully and very highly to get their specific fetish met. They make the best customer. To turn those guys away is just throwing money away. Look at Chaturbate as well, also a token site with all kinds of models that do very well! Come on FWC, don't be a clone of MFC, do your own thang.
JaneBurgess
10-16-2014, 12:22 PM
I agree. Honestly they allow a lot of freedom on here. The pay per hour performers they just want to chat with their customers and be friendly. They really haven't asked a whole lot of us except to log in and work your room.
Basically it seems like webcam models need to look at this "opportunity" as if they were applying for a job. If you don't meet certain criteria you will not be hired. If you do not perform your job duties you could get let go. There is more freedom in working for sites where model compensation is entirely commission based.
JaneBurgess
10-16-2014, 12:46 PM
I just asked to make sure the site was alright with it and they said yes its fine. I personally also dont have a problem with it. Hell sometimes camming makes me want to drink. :)
I still haven't tried it out but I think I'm going to today. I do want to know if the studio or site itself frowns upon drinking though? When I work token sites I make a lot by selling shots, what I usually do is put my room topic something like buy me a shot for 75 tokens and get a free boob or ass flash. Some days I have to have a side of something that looks like the rum I drink cause I get so many requests for shots at once and I can't handle that much, haha, so I do pretty well with this hustle and want to make sure this is ok for this studio and site.
MiraMichele
10-16-2014, 01:00 PM
Awesome, thank you so much for clearing that up for me, jane :)
Spinnerette
10-16-2014, 01:38 PM
OK, pop me in the mouth if I'm being a brat, but these requirements they emailed are rubbing me the wrong way. Funneling traffic to specific rooms based on arbitrary requirements (how can they do that? shouldn't they just provide traffic site wide and let the customer pic? placement improvement I understand, but...what?)? 20 photos (excessive. the max amount of photos I upload per network is 5-7 because I'm live, ain't I)? Filling out a schedule leads me to think they're going to hold people to a minimum amount of hours worked and...no.
Again, someone PLEASE slap me if I'm just being stupid in digging my heels in over this and saying, "wait a minute...". I also feel like I'm going to get penalized for my hustle because I'm not a girl next door type and that looks like what they want, with the push to fill out the profiles IN FULL and so on and so forth. My OKC profile doesn't even get that much information from me, for real.
Naiad
10-16-2014, 02:11 PM
^ I just sent a message to Greg to clarify about the whole profile thing. If they actually require us to fill out all the fields I'm just gonna put down a bunch of random and fake stuff lol. Like most of those fields are none of their business and they're just kind of silly.
I also expressed my concerns about the site not welcoming "alternative" models and the fact that they're suspending models that they see as "unfit". I still expect to and want to be sure that I'll be paid for the work that I've done, along with the agreed upon hourly if they arbitrarily decide that my body type/look is "unfit" or whatever. Sure, they have a right to decide who they want to have on their hourly or not (even if I strongly disagree with their approach, because fetish is where it's at), but they need to decide that BEFORE the model logs on and starts working. I've been converting basic members into customers on there and doing well in tokens, and expect to be paid everything listed under my earnings as well as the hourly rate.
I can understand why they want a filled out profile and pictures to be part of the website since it's so new and they want some content on there (though they should really make the profile visible before signing up), I can use pictures that I already have anyway (I agree 20 is excessive though), but it's just really awkward right now. They shouldn't require any more than the basic fields to be filled out, like "About my show" etc. Not like, if you do drugs or about your car, haha.
Some amount of disorganization is to be expected with a new website like this, it's unfortunate and I hope most of the kinks are worked out soon.
And I'm really not sure about the whole schedule thing, I figure I'll just put a vague estimation but I definitely can't stick to a set schedule. I'm hoping they just want it to be filled out for "content" purposes, I doubt (or at least sincerely hope they don't) expect us to have a set/rigid schedule. Because I'm pretty sure that most of us models that are good hustlers aren't going to bother having a set schedule for a little website like this.
I've actually been getting some nice shows on there, I had one guy put $100 in his account just to spend on me and there are other guys with $50-$100+ in their account spending money. I've gotten some nice privates and tips. This could be a very decent side site as long as they keep their shit together. I plan on splitting with MFC.
Spinnerette
10-16-2014, 02:33 PM
Ahhh, wanting content for the sake of having the appearance of active and established performers is completely understandable. But still not cool with uploading 20 photos and you're damned right these cats don't need to know what kind of car I drive, lol. It's not relevant. I'm a high energy performer so the managers don't have to worry about me staring dead-eyed into the camera and milking the clock (I cut my teeth on sites like Cam4), but I'm also very dry in how I talk to people sometimes and I reserve the right to pick and choose who I engage with in my chat. So...a little worried about what it's going to be like when I start streaming, especially with what's been reported back. Good to hear they seem to have clients who are eager to spend though.
Naiad
10-16-2014, 03:06 PM
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MiraMichele
10-16-2014, 03:08 PM
MFC has a spot that asks what car you drive also. I noticed when I filled out my profile on FWC that most questions were the exact same questions from the MFC profile.
Spinnerette
10-16-2014, 03:22 PM
True, but the difference is that I don't get my MFC traffic/pay docked for refusing to answer those questions.
Also on the cams thing: WHAT?? They have that? That's fucked up!
MiraMichele
10-16-2014, 03:28 PM
It doesn't really bother me, I don't have a car so I just put that I don't drive. I'm sure you can just put whatever though, it isn't like you have to put the exact car you drive. If you put you drive a Mercedes but you actually drive a Hyundai then I'm sure they aren't going to fire you if they find out that you don't drive a Mercedes. Haha, we are terminating you. Why? Cause you put you drive a Mercedes and you really drive a Hyundai, sorry.
No offense meant by this, that just popped in my head and I found it funny :)
hyori
10-16-2014, 03:44 PM
I put "whatever you want to put into my garage" as my car.
Nikki_Fox
10-16-2014, 03:47 PM
maybe they didnt like cat juggling as my talent :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bGVT4-1DBU
hyori
10-16-2014, 04:03 PM
OK I splitcammed today with MFC and FWC today again but this time, I used the "cover the cam" button when I went into a private. That button only lasts for like 15 seconds but I didn't know that so the freeloaders at FWC got a full on free cum show in free chat. Holy shit. I hope I don't get banned. I also checked my earnings and found that my hourly wasn't added from the hours yesterday and today. I was told by Olivia (the contact in the chat support window) that I was to contact
[email protected] to find out why my hourly wasn't added. Now I'm wondering if I've been rejected. Totally not fair because I was busting my ass the entire time, dancing sexy and saying hello to anyone that said anything to me, even tried a lame game with some playing cards LOL I'm so not a game person. I do like the site though and their interface is very cool. Fingers crossed.
MissQuirk
10-16-2014, 04:07 PM
The schedule thing is a bit weird. I don't see a way to split up shifts. Like doing noon-3 and then 8pm-12am. :/ So that sucks.
I'm a bit worried about how important the schedule seems to be to the site owners. Part of why I cam is so I can sort of pop on at different times when my migraines aren't kicking my ass. I hope they're not strict on us sticking to schedules.
SweetJulia
10-16-2014, 05:25 PM
Ugh, so they can reject you based on size? I have a huge ass & legs, nowhere near BBW, but now I'm worried they won't take me?