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trueblonde
11-03-2014, 01:29 AM
A solid answer and something to show for 40+ hours of my work on this website would make me a very happy cammer. It's been almost 3 weeks and I have bills that are late. I've been camming for over 10 years and I have always been paid on time.
I ignored my other main website business to devote my time to this. I was promised hourly wage from the beginning regardless of timecard. I expect compensation. I've been kind but I'm starting to get annoyed. I surely hope my faith will be restored very quickly.
LaylaLovely
11-03-2014, 10:25 AM
^^ I'm in the same place as you , I hope they FWC figures this out and pays us in whole because we're so behind on payment I'm also barely hanging with bills because of this late payment... I'm lucky I have other sources of income aside from camming for now.i understand some of this is beyond janes control so this totally just for the site
LaylaLovely
11-03-2014, 10:30 AM
I just got approved for hourly starting Halloween day so all the time previous was not counted. Whatever. I was happy to finally get a solid answer and paid through Paxum so i let it go.
Hyori I was approved on the 23 rd but jane says they still have to pay us for before because she has it in writing so I would def contact her directly on getting those funds since she has the contract with them personally for her studio girls
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 11:11 AM
The problem we have run into is the site is saying they took a few people off of hourly, contacted the performers directly and didnt tell Greg or I they made those changes. They did also add a few people to hourly too. Its frustrating when they make those changes without informing us but we are getting a list of who they took off of hourly.
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 11:13 AM
You're fine, they sent the funds for you since it was their mistake in the first place. You have always been on hourly and it shows that in your account now.
^^ I'm in the same place as you , I hope they FWC figures this out and pays us in whole because we're so behind on payment I'm also barely hanging with bills because of this late payment... I'm lucky I have other sources of income aside from camming for now.i understand some of this is beyond janes control so this totally just for the site
LaylaLovely
11-03-2014, 11:27 AM
Thank you jane !! Glad it was fixed.
trueblonde
11-03-2014, 01:00 PM
I don't care if I stay on hourly at this point, I need to be paid for my past work. I was promised hourly on October 11th. I worked until the end of October. Andrea told me she sent both checks to Jane including hourly and tokens. I need my ACH TODAY.
PS- I was promised hourly pay from 3 different people at FWC. Andrea said I should be expecting an hourly check. I was never sent an email regarding being "taken off" hourly. Something isn't adding up right.
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 01:44 PM
Andrea doesnt handle any of the studio stuff, Jose does. She is just CS of the cam site period and she doesnt even do accounting, Jose does. They sent you two weeks of tokens, pretty sure not hourly. Like I told you via email they sent funds for performers that they didnt originally have on hourly. It covered Kinmber Slice, Molly Silver and waiting to here who else it covered. They also said they contacted a few performers via email to let them know they took them off hourly. I have no idea if you were on the list or not, waiting on the list. If the site says they took you off hourly and contacted you, there's not much I can do. They have the final say on who they pay hourly.
I just called and talked to Andrea and she said Jose handles this and not her. So I am waiting on a call back from him.
I don't care if I stay on hourly at this point, I need to be paid for my past work. I was promised hourly on October 11th. I worked until the end of October. Andrea told me she sent both checks to Jane including hourly and tokens. I need my ACH TODAY.
trueblonde
11-03-2014, 02:20 PM
I've been on the phone with FWC management and I'm finding out some pretty interesting things. I will keep you updated.
Issabelle
11-03-2014, 02:22 PM
I'm also chiming in for having not received payment/email from Bill.com. I sent you an email as well Jane, but I imagine you're pretty swamped with the whole thing right now. Keep your chin up! *hugs*
trueblonde
11-03-2014, 03:52 PM
I am dealing with FWC management right now and I suggest you do the same. I was supposed to be paid on Friday. They are paying me the EXACT AMOUNT of what is owed to me. You have no idea what this late payment has already costed me. I am steaming.
I will post the outcome!
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 04:57 PM
How are you supposed to be paid on Friday when the studio doesnt even get the funds until Friday? Unless you want to Pay a $40 wire fee it goes out as an ACH. They didnt even send any hourly funds for you until Friday and that was a week behind. They didnt include any hourly funds for you at all the last Friday. So please do have them pay you since their accounting department cant seem to send the correct funds.
I am dealing with FWC management right now and I suggest you do the same. I was supposed to be paid on Friday. They are paying me the EXACT AMOUNT of what is owed to me. You have no idea what this late payment has already costed me. I am steaming.
I will post the outcome!
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 05:04 PM
I think I answered you already. I am a bit swamped because people think and ACH is a wire and it's not.
I'm also chiming in for having not received payment/email from Bill.com. I sent you an email as well Jane, but I imagine you're pretty swamped with the whole thing right now. Keep your chin up! *hugs*
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 05:36 PM
Let me be clear on payments because some of you don't seem to understand it. The studio doesnt get the funds in until Friday, and the time it comes in varies. It depends on your payment options. The only way to get a payment in right away is a wire and if you want to pay the $40 fee than I will switch you to wire.
I said payments go out on Fridays, I never said you get the funds on Fridays.
Paxum is the same day usually
Payoneer can be the same day or up to a day, depends on their system
Checks can take a few days depending on where you live. They send them out Friday night or Saturday mornings.
ACH aka DD - 3 to 5 business days, its not instant like some of you think
Those are the payment options, you picked the one you want. So please stop asking why a payment for a check or ach isnt there yet when its only Monday.
EricaErotica
11-03-2014, 05:41 PM
Jane,
You would be better of calling "ACH" a "Direct Deposit". Because that is what an "ACH" is. You might have less confusion among the models in your studio.
Definition of ACH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_Clearing_House
Uses of the ACH payment system
Bank treasury management departments sell this service to business and government customers.
Business-to-business payments
Direct debit payment of consumer bills such as mortgages, loans, utilities, insurance premiums, rents, and any other regular payment
Direct deposit of payroll, Social Security and other government payments, and tax refunds
E-commerce payments
Federal, state, and local tax payments
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 05:45 PM
I did call it DD before and some of them thought it meant a wire because it said direct in it. So I went back to ACH and I explained on here what it is. I'll call it ACH/DD, that might work better.
Jane,
You would be better of calling "ACH" a "Direct Deposit". Because that is what an "ACH" is. You might have less confusion among the models in your studio.
Definition of ACH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_Clearing_House
Uses of the ACH payment system[edit]
Bank treasury management departments sell this service to business and government customers.
Business-to-business payments
Direct debit payment of consumer bills such as mortgages, loans, utilities, insurance premiums, rents, and any other regular payment
Direct deposit of payroll, Social Security and other government payments, and tax refunds
E-commerce payments
Federal, state, and local tax payments
space_cowgirl
11-03-2014, 06:22 PM
I didnt say I wasnt sure they didnt send you a check. You were asking about getting a message from Bill.com and I said Im not sure they will send you a message it was mailed out.
No, my job isnt to answer 100 messages from you asking the same questions over and over and over again. If I answered the question, I dont see the need to keep asking me the same question again and again.
Believe me, I want nothing more than to be paid and be done with this. My email today asked if you could check with Bill.com to see if it had been mailed last Wednesday like you had said. It seems strange to me that it hasn't arrived yet, that's all.
temptingmodel
11-03-2014, 08:20 PM
silently opens door
PAY PAL is not good to announce for a payment of Skype Shows (esp with strangers)
silently closes door
:)
JaneBurgess
11-03-2014, 09:13 PM
Ugh I dont even want to address PP. I see so many performers use that from all cam sites and offer to do one on one shows via PP. They cant seem to respect PP rules of not using them for adult purposes.
I heart you :)
silently opens door
PAY PAL is not good to announce for a payment of Skype Shows (esp with strangers)
silently closes door
:)
temptingmodel
11-03-2014, 09:23 PM
Ugh I dont even want to address PP. I see so many performers use that from all cam sites and offer to do one on one shows via PP. They cant seem to respect PP rules of not using them for adult purposes.
I heart you :)
i lost a lot of money when I started camming bc I did not know the rules
I was a very sad camgirl lol
Learn the hard way, money in the Paypal account before it can be withdrawn and they will respect it
DIAMONDLOVER
11-03-2014, 10:21 PM
silently opens door
PAY PAL is not good to announce for a payment of Skype Shows (esp with strangers)
silently closes door
:)
OMG I totally could hear the door open and close when I read that comment and lol'ed so hard... I pictured it as well. That active imagination of mines haha
JaneBurgess
11-04-2014, 12:32 AM
I remember when PP allowed us to use them for adult stuff.
You were also right about having a studio. I had the best intentions and wanted to help performers out. Holy fuck I will never do it again, I learned my lesson.
i lost a lot of money when I started camming bc I did not know the rules
I was a very sad camgirl lol
Learn the hard way, money in the Paypal account before it can be withdrawn and they will respect it
JaneBurgess
11-04-2014, 12:43 AM
When I posted for performers, I honestly thought I was doing the right thing and wanted to help other performers. I had the best intentions possible and to a point don't regret it. I do feel that being nice can come back to bite you in the ass.
However it pisses me off when the site sends me a chat from a studio performer that is upset she wasnt paid and tries to tell the site I must be stealing the funds. Are you fucking kidding me? Im so sorry the site shorted a payment, that was beyond my control. They made up for it and sent the payment on Friday, three days ago. We get the funds Friday, you are not paid on Fridays. Not sure why some of you think you are paid the same day we get the funds in. All payments have been sent out. I have never stolen from anyone and I am beyond pissed off that anyone would say that. If I was going to steal it sure as hell wouldnt be for three hundred bucks, I would make it worth getting caught. So grow the fuck up, mistakes happen and acting like a douche will make me fire you. I will not work with anyone that throws bitch fits and can't act professional. Its one thing to be upset, its another to make shit up and act like a jackass.
The site monitors free chat, so if they do not like what they see, they can take your hourly away. They can also hire people, not pay hourly and add hourly if they like what they see. I can also suspend/fire performers if I want to.
If you have any questions please let me know.
Rastafari
11-04-2014, 03:13 AM
When did we start talking about PayPal? Jane I feel like a fucking douche right now because one of those assholes that threw a bitch fit at you was my friend. She's normally a little psycho but she's been on her period for the past 6 months after getting the depo birth control shot so I can only imagine what goes through her head. I did get an email this morning from bill.com for $105 or something like that. Not sure what it's for. I also don't think my timecard actually did get entered in where the 0's existed but as long as they don't drop my hourly rate on me now it'll be ok. I'm sorry this has to be such a shit show. I honestly don't think its Jane's fault, the problems lie within the actual company. It's bullshit that they couldn't tell her what was up from the beginning and keep her updated on what's happening now. At this point I'm not sure what to do with this site, I kinda just keep it on mute while I hang out around my house now. I've made some friends on there but they're all broke lol. If the site can't get its shit together then this really doesn't have as much potential as it could've and should have. Sad camgirls everywhere :(
hyori
11-04-2014, 06:08 AM
When I posted for performers, I honestly thought I was doing the right thing and wanted to help other performers. I had the best intentions possible and to a point don't regret it. I do feel that being nice can come back to bite you in the ass.
However it pisses me off when the site sends me a chat from a studio performer that is upset she wasnt paid and tries to tell the site I must be stealing the funds. Are you fucking kidding me? Im so sorry the site shorted a payment, that was beyond my control. They made up for it and sent the payment on Friday, three days ago. We get the funds Friday, you are not paid on Fridays. Not sure why some of you think you are paid the same day we get the funds in. All payments have been sent out. I have never stolen from anyone and I am beyond pissed off that anyone would say that. If I was going to steal it sure as hell wouldnt be for three hundred bucks, I would make it worth getting caught. So grow the fuck up, mistakes happen and acting like a douche will make me fire you. I will not work with anyone that throws bitch fits and can't act professional. Its one thing to be upset, its another to make shit up and act like a jackass.
The site monitors free chat, so if they do not like what they see, they can take your hourly away. They can also hire people, not pay hourly and add hourly if they like what they see. I can also suspend/fire performers if I want to.
If you have any questions please let me know.
Ah geesh. i kinda knew this would happen actually. When i first heard about the hourly i was so stoked but then i knew there would be a lot of adjustments because hourly is such a different way to pay. Eventually, this site will come out of the chaos. I still believe in the base pay and if it can be a successful way to pay, it will revolutionize the industry and make camming so much better. So, for me, this is about the bigger picture. For girls who splitcam this site is great. for those who make it a main site I don't think it is the right time.
Jane, I think you also think big picture and I know your intentions are so good. Please don't let these start-up issues get you down. I am glad you don't regret the experience. One thing is for sure, the karma points are racking up for you.
VelvetRose
11-04-2014, 09:47 AM
It seems that mobile users (Those with usernames that begin with "dt" followed by a string of numbers) are not able to tip or go private. Oftentimes the majority of my visitors are on mobile devices. Is FWC doing something to fix this?
JaneBurgess
11-04-2014, 09:54 AM
That's a payment for one week, they will send you another message for the other payment. When we put in a payment, its lists the week it was for so you will have two payments since it was for two weeks.
I wasnt talking about your friend but yeah her messages were interesting. :)
When did we start talking about PayPal? Jane I feel like a fucking douche right now because one of those assholes that threw a bitch fit at you was my friend. She's normally a little psycho but she's been on her period for the past 6 months after getting the depo birth control shot so I can only imagine what goes through her head. I did get an email this morning from bill.com for $105 or something like that. Not sure what it's for. I also don't think my timecard actually did get entered in where the 0's existed but as long as they don't drop my hourly rate on me now it'll be ok. I'm sorry this has to be such a shit show. I honestly don't think its Jane's fault, the problems lie within the actual company. It's bullshit that they couldn't tell her what was up from the beginning and keep her updated on what's happening now. At this point I'm not sure what to do with this site, I kinda just keep it on mute while I hang out around my house now. I've made some friends on there but they're all broke lol. If the site can't get its shit together then this really doesn't have as much potential as it could've and should have. Sad camgirls everywhere :(
JaneBurgess
11-04-2014, 09:55 AM
That's a great question. I'll find out and let you know.
It seems that mobile users (Those with usernames that begin with "dt" followed by a string of numbers) are not able to tip or go private. Oftentimes the majority of my visitors are on mobile devices. Is FWC doing something to fix this?
LaylaLovely
11-04-2014, 11:11 AM
It seems that mobile users (Those with usernames that begin with "dt" followed by a string of numbers) are not able to tip or go private.
Same thing happens to me, I tell them to refresh the page and then they go pvt.
VelvetRose
11-04-2014, 11:36 AM
It seems that mobile users (Those with usernames that begin with "dt" followed by a string of numbers) are not able to tip or go private. Oftentimes the majority of my visitors are on mobile devices. Is FWC doing something to fix this?
Same thing happens to me, I tell them to refresh the page and then they go pvt.
Thanks for the tip! I've missed out on so many privates & tips because of this. Hopefully, this helps.
Rastafari
11-04-2014, 02:30 PM
If you guys don't mind me asking how much do you set your privates to? I put mine up to 80 and haven't gotten anything. But I kinda wana wait it out to see if the traffic improves. Anyway I had to come on here to say whoever the girl is that's painting things on herself for tips right now, you are the absolute shit. Rock on chick. Love the vagina on your arm. I wish I could watch more but I have to log on now and actually put forth some effort lol
Issabelle
11-04-2014, 03:16 PM
Got confirmation of my first check yesterday night. It's coming via USPS and should arrive by Friday. I really like that they gave me an estimated arrival date. The check confirmation told me that it was payment for October 13th to October 19th. The check is short about $7 from what my dashboard says I should get for combined hourly + tokens, but I assume that'll get figured out with the next check and I'm not super worried about it. I've had my daily pay be short or over a few cents to a dollar before and it always worked out on the next deposit, so yeah whatever. Quite honestly, my last real concern with this site was whether or not that check would ever get cut. It has now, so I feel really good about getting back to it in earnest. I feel like that's obviously been a concern for several models, but Jane's been good about getting back to me and thinks are all set now. Getting the machine going the first time is always rough, but it's starting to smooth out I think.
As Hyori pointed out, this hourly pay option is a very good idea and could well revolutionize camming for start ups/successful sites. There are lots of kinks, but Jane has been very good to give us the options she has and we're all riding the waves out. I'm optimistic that this will be good and things will work out. Now, off to walk the puppy and get my whore face on to work.
VelvetRose
11-04-2014, 03:27 PM
If you guys don't mind me asking how much do you set your privates to? I put mine up to 80 and haven't gotten anything. But I kinda wana wait it out to see if the traffic improves. Anyway I had to come on here to say whoever the girl is that's painting things on herself for tips right now, you are the absolute shit. Rock on chick. Love the vagina on your arm. I wish I could watch more but I have to log on now and actually put forth some effort lol
I charge the exact same on FWC for everything that I charge on SM. I have received tips for flashes and privates at these rates. I've also lost money because of glitches where customers sent me private requests and were unable to enter the private chat mode (although they had more than enough tokens).
It's a new site so use the opportunity to train all the new customers (your future regulars) what are "normal" prices for YOUR services. Don't get too concerned about what others are charging since we all have a price. ;)
JaneBurgess
11-04-2014, 03:58 PM
LOL that's Ember, she's one of the studio performers. They pretty much give you free reign on there so try out the painting or whatever else you think could be fun.
If you guys don't mind me asking how much do you set your privates to? I put mine up to 80 and haven't gotten anything. But I kinda wana wait it out to see if the traffic improves. Anyway I had to come on here to say whoever the girl is that's painting things on herself for tips right now, you are the absolute shit. Rock on chick. Love the vagina on your arm. I wish I could watch more but I have to log on now and actually put forth some effort lol
Issabelle
11-04-2014, 04:29 PM
So here's a question. Does FWC allow off site links in my profile/room topic? I want to make a fancy tip menu as a JPEG and upload it to tinypic, then link it to my profile. I was thinking prices for custom photo sets/videos/panties/snapchat/etc. Just the kind of menu that girls on MFC make, but I can't figure out how to do that on FWC and wanted to just make an off site tip menu to link custies too. That allowed and/or is there a really obvious way to do this on FWC that I'm missing?
Rastafari
11-04-2014, 05:41 PM
One of my regulars said that in order to buy tokens the site asks them to upload a scan of their credit card and ID. Is this true? Are they going to fix that?
Rastafari
11-04-2014, 05:43 PM
My fiancé says it's there to prevent chargebacks. I mean that sounds like a good idea but a lot of people told me they're sketched out by it
JaneBurgess
11-04-2014, 06:33 PM
I would think a lot of sites do something similar to prevent fraud. I do think it will cut back on chargebacks. I will ask them tho
My fiancé says it's there to prevent chargebacks. I mean that sounds like a good idea but a lot of people told me they're sketched out by it
SweetJulia
11-04-2014, 06:44 PM
Jane, I give you credit-I'd never want to be on the management end of anything in the adult business again. Learned that the hard way booking for an escort service. If you're successful-and you seem like you are-on the management side-you're doing waaaaaay better than I did. Bonus points if you do it without drinking half a fifth a day, like I did. *Hugs*
Issabelle
11-04-2014, 06:57 PM
So, I figured out the difference in my check. It was the studio cut. Hadn't even occurred to me that hadn't been taken out, but once Greg showed me the numbers it dawned on me. My check is 100% correct and on it's way!
MissMafia
11-04-2014, 07:07 PM
Thanks for this thread. I am considering my sign up. :) xo Lots of information.
temptingmodel
11-04-2014, 07:32 PM
I remember when PP allowed us to use them for adult stuff.
You were also right about having a studio. I had the best intentions and wanted to help performers out. Holy fuck I will never do it again, I learned my lesson.
I think PP hit me when the rules changed and I kindly ignored it as if lalalaalala wtfeverrrr :( <---- yea wtfeverrrr lol :D
studios are rough biz if physical or virtual.
Hopefully after the site makes a solid foundation and not many questions left to explore it will be easier.
I dont work the site and can understand the simple rules, how and why they are doing things.
Rastafari, I mentioned PP bc I do perv the site to see if they have added various models etc.
I was on site last night and clicked a models room and the headliner was
Skype for paypal.
Not only does this model risk her account for paypal it risks all of us as adult entertainers bc if one model does it, the customer will assume all models do it.
I'm not barking down a models shit bc I give no fucks if she wants to take that risk.
Definitely do not announce it to strangers, models hate, will find out the pay pal and report it.
If that model did not know, it is a cam girls ultimate risk of losing money
western union
green dot
loveshooks
cmd
safer than paypal
JaneBurgess
11-04-2014, 07:51 PM
I have had a Streamate studio for five years (physical) and its been really fun. This is just a bit harder since its a new company and they are working to make the site better. It is nice to be on the ground floor tho and have input. There have been some glitches here and there but they have all been worked out and I expected some issues. You cant go into this and think it will be perfect. If you do you will trip out at every issue.
I am not really a drinker. I might have a beer every month or so, so I'm good with that front.
Jane, I give you credit-I'd never want to be on the management end of anything in the adult business again. Learned that the hard way booking for an escort service. If you're successful-and you seem like you are-on the management side-you're doing waaaaaay better than I did. Bonus points if you do it without drinking half a fifth a day, like I did. *Hugs*
Rastafari
11-05-2014, 05:12 AM
Oh boy I didn't see the one offering PayPal but that's bullshit. I'm starting to see more quality models come in so hopefully we can crowd those bitches out soon. Customers with actual money usually know about paypals rules and some still continue to use it but when I tell them I won't accept it they either fuck off or know of a better way to transfer. Recently one of my mfc regs told me about popmoney. It seems super legit I haven't done it yet so thanks for reminding me to say something on here
Rastafari
11-05-2014, 05:15 AM
And I also have a question #2 is it possible to change my model name?
JaneBurgess
11-05-2014, 10:53 AM
Maybe. Send me the username you want to use and I'll ask them to change it.
And I also have a question #2 is it possible to change my model name?
temptingmodel
11-05-2014, 06:20 PM
Oh boy I didn't see the one offering PayPal but that's bullshit. I'm starting to see more quality models come in so hopefully we can crowd those bitches out soon. Customers with actual money usually know about paypals rules and some still continue to use it but when I tell them I won't accept it they either fuck off or know of a better way to transfer. Recently one of my mfc regs told me about popmoney. It seems super legit I haven't done it yet so thanks for reminding me to say something on here
lol Im all up in this thread and not a model :D
I have seriously thought of applying but... thats why I perv the site. Please dont think Im a FWC monitor. Im monitoring for my own curiosity
POPMONEY? hmmm you have my attention :D
loveshooks
11-05-2014, 06:40 PM
Recently one of my mfc regs told me about popmoney. It seems super legit I haven't done it yet so thanks for reminding me to say something on here
Just an FYI, Popmoney prohibits "goods and services that are sexually oriented" and the sender can request a cancellation of a payment long after it's been sent.
JaneBurgess
11-05-2014, 08:46 PM
LOL ya perv!!!! I honestly like input from any cam performer, sites can only get better if they know what we want.
lol Im all up in this thread and not a model :D
I have seriously thought of applying but... thats why I perv the site. Please dont think Im a FWC monitor. Im monitoring for my own curiosity
POPMONEY? hmmm you have my attention :D
Rastafari
11-06-2014, 06:29 AM
Hahahaha!! Aren't we all just a bundle of pervs in a pod? I like to look around at every site I work on or want to work on. Gotta feel it out. Gosh, loveshooks, I was waiting for someone to crush my dreams and thank you for doing it before I actually went and did the show with this guy. I'll be offering him one of the other tried and true methods instead.