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Vlodina
01-11-2016, 12:42 AM
You can't sell panties On Streamate. The rules state no offside contact. How are you going to send them without getting their name and address, and risking suspension/being banned? X

Hxchayley
01-11-2016, 12:45 AM
Wow, i did not know that it was illegal to mail warn panties!!! (how much trouble could you get in?) and what do you say youre mailing when they ask? LOL, also with adultwork and cammodeldirectory, do i just sign up and they pay through the site? then the site will mail me a check or payment method of choice?

Hxchayley
01-11-2016, 12:46 AM
also if its technically illegal, when theyre for sale on one of those websites are they advertised as 'warn panties' ?

Vlodina
01-11-2016, 12:49 AM
It's because pussy juice is a biohazard. :-P Obviously for several reason don't have a return address or anything that links them to you
I just tell the post office that it's clothing.

Hxchayley
01-11-2016, 12:53 AM
alright. Alright so what is classified as 'offside contact' i knew i couldnt make arrangements to sell through SM itself but am i aloud to give them my e mail? (different from my vanilla of course)

Vlodina
01-11-2016, 01:03 AM
Offside contact: emails, twitter. numbers, addresses, kik, snapchat, telling them other sites you are on. Asking them for any of the above information.

When you're on sm, there's only streamate.
Occasionally they will use their brain and look up your name, so make sure you use the same name everywhere
X

Hxchayley
01-11-2016, 01:12 AM
Mother fuck

Vlodina
01-11-2016, 01:19 AM
Mother fucking is considered taboo and also not condoned. X

Hxchayley
01-11-2016, 01:22 AM
What do you think my luck would be if i tried selling them on a site that i didnt cam on ever, literally used for just sales? am i aloud to put the link for my cam on say AW? also do you advertise them as warn panties?

Vlodina
01-11-2016, 01:24 AM
Don't get me wrong, there are girls who openly sell panties in Streamate. There's also girls who offer taboo and fisting.
The panty sellers are either "untouchable" veteran models who make the site a lot of money. Or they are girls who don't care if they get banned. The small amount of money is not worth me getting banned. Just like I won't "pee for me bb".

Hxchayley
01-11-2016, 01:28 AM
i feel the same, definitely not worth a ban at all

luvnrockets
01-11-2016, 05:38 AM
Mother fucking is considered taboo and also not condoned. X

What if your mother has a different last name, and you did shows with her without disclosing that she is your mother?

If there's a will, there's a way. Just make your Twitter name your SM name, and say "I am not allowed to give out outside contact info" if they ask, and if they have most frontal lobe functioning, they should be able to find you. The answer implies that there is outside contact info to look for.

seicento
01-11-2016, 06:14 AM
My advice is to go with Manyvids.You can sell your panties&other items there.Lot of guys on streamate know about manyvids so it will be easier to be found ,rather than on adultwork.

Sally Says
01-11-2016, 10:26 AM
adultwork can be a pain for non british to sign up for too, which includes your customers
x

RamonaRamone
01-11-2016, 10:41 AM
My advice is to go with Manyvids.You can sell your panties&other items there.Lot of guys on streamate know about manyvids so it will be easier to be found ,rather than on adultwork.

ManyVids is good, for sure. I sell all my panties there. But I've had even more success with ExtraLunchMoney, honestly. And I've done a few GW panty sales (not ideal and still anti-sex workers but better than PayPal) but you kinda need to already have buyers to sell indie like that. Cammodel Directory is good too. As a SM girl, when people ask about panties, I tell them it's against the site rules and I can't. Then I tell them they can "look me up". That's all the info I give and if they are dedicated to my dirty underwear, they figure it out and find me somewhere else.

Also regarding the illegality of it, you PROBABLY won't get caught, but if your post office has a self check-out option where you can mail packages and print stamps by weight without going directly to a post office worker, it saves a lot of stress. That's what I always do, and also gets you out of having to put a return address on the package. I've sold and sent many pairs this way and never had any problems. And even if my package were intercepted, since I checked myself out and no one hassled me to write some return address (which I know some girls fake if you have to), all that's in the top left corner is "RR" and a little heart, so I'm less worried about being tracked down.

Magical_Hoohah
01-11-2016, 01:30 PM
Panty selling always sounds good at first, but there's a ton of stuff to take into account, and for many people (including me), it's not worth it unless you are going to be seriously dedicated to your panty business. There are tons of threads about selling panties:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=panty+selling+site:www.stripperweb.com
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=selling%20panties%20site%3Awww.stripperweb.com

Magical_Hoohah
01-11-2016, 01:36 PM
Regarding offsite contact on SM, here is what the performer manual says:

Any solicitation for escort, prostitution or personal contact with customers is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to by exchanging emails, addresses, online chat IDs (yahoo, msn, ICQ, etc.), social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.), or other contact information. Violation of this condition will result in termination of this Agreement and the permanent termination of your account. Additionally, Streamate reserves the right to withhold payments to you if this condition is violated.
and

Promotion of any non-Streamate related website directly to Streamate members and affiliate site members is strictly prohibited. This includes but is not limited to by chat, by text, or by any other means. Violation of this condition will result in termination of this Agreement and the permanent termination of your account. Additionally, Streamate reserves the right to withhold payments to you if this condition is violated.
These are probably the rules that SM is the most strict about enforcing. Theoretically, even telling someone to "google me" is not allowed, since that is promoting another website (google). When you're on SM, they want you to act as though SM is the only part of the internet that exists.

Hxchayley
01-12-2016, 01:29 PM
My advice is to go with Manyvids.You can sell your panties&other items there.Lot of guys on streamate know about manyvids so it will be easier to be found ,rather than on adultwork.

thank you! does many vids have geoblock? its definitely not a deal breaker if not, but a wee bit better.

RamonaRamone
01-12-2016, 02:52 PM
thank you! does many vids have geoblock? its definitely not a deal breaker if not, but a wee bit better.

Yep they do! I believe you can block both states and countries.

camcouple2
01-24-2016, 10:30 PM
how do you sell clothes on adult work? I don't see a category for it

amanda121
04-13-2016, 12:05 PM
Is it possible to send panties without the buyer knowing which country they were sent from? The post office always gives stamp on the package...Like resending/ repacking service which repacks it in an anonymous envelope or something like that?

Sam38g
04-13-2016, 12:54 PM
If you are in the United States it is considered a federal offense & a Felony... now to think you wont get caught, the advertizing, any email exchange, proof of purchase are ALL evidence.

Now, the Gov will let you get away with it for years, they let all the evidence build up against you. Don't quote me, but heard it is 1 year in jail & $1000 fine for each offense. Now, have you ever tried to rent an apartment or house with a felony record? Get a normal job with a felony record?

Keep in mind how much a lawyer cost if you are caught & charged. There is NO WAY anybody is going to get me to commit a felony. How much money will you make? How much does it take to get you to commit a felony? I'm curious.

Do you think any of those guys care if you get busted? Do you really think someone who ask you to commit a felony has your best interest at heart?

How does that conversation go? "Hi, will you commit a felony for $60 & mail me your used panties?"

Sam

YoruMusume
04-13-2016, 01:48 PM
Hi! I'm new to this forum, so I know I'm just sort of jumping in here and no one knows who I am. x3

I wanted to weigh in a little about the legality of selling panties. Personally, I've been selling my panties on Chaturbate for tokens first, then I will package them up in foil inside a vacuum-sealed plastic bag.

Now, I've been doing some research on what the specific laws are for panties, and it's really tough to find, definitively, that used panties are illegal to sell in the US. Though the law varies from state-to-state, I did read (I'm not sure which state this pertained to) that it's illegal to sell used panties for the purpose of it being worn by someone else (hence, the reason why panties and swimsuit sales are final). Now, if the law is contingent on the person purchasing the panties for this specific purpose, you can see where there loopholes lie.

However, another set of really oudated "Comstock" laws () could potentially be used to prohibit the sale of panties on the basis that panties are lewd, obescene, and morally outrageous. xD No, but seriously, these laws. :(

It would be awesome if anyone could find a link to a reliable source that has this information. Mostly it's a lot of people swearing up and down that it is legal or that it isn't legal. It doesn't seem so simple since camgirls have been doing this for quite some time without many repercussions coming to the surface (at least I haven't heard of any cases, myself). Furthermore, I wonder how websites would get away with allowing this if it's a definite felony, full stop (some say it's a misdemeanor). But I will keep looking for answers!

Sam38g
04-13-2016, 02:07 PM
Hi! I'm new to this forum, so I know I'm just sort of jumping in here and no one knows who I am. x3

I wanted to weigh in a little about the legality of selling panties. Personally, I've been selling my panties on Chaturbate for tokens first, then I will package them up in foil inside a vacuum-sealed plastic bag.

Now, I've been doing some research on what the specific laws are for panties, and it's really tough to find, definitively, that used panties are illegal to sell in the US. Though the law varies from state-to-state, I did read (I'm not sure which state this pertained to) that it's illegal to sell used panties for the purpose of it being worn by someone else (hence, the reason why panties and bikini sales are final). Now, if the law is contingent on the person purchasing the panties for this specific purpose, you can see where there loopholes lie.

However, another set of really oudated "Comstock" laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_laws) could potentially be used to prohibit the sale of panties on the basis that panties are lewd, obescene, and morally outrageous. xD No, but seriously, these laws. :(

It would be awesome if anyone could find a link to a reliable source that has this information. Mostly it's a lot of people swearing up and down that it is legal or that it isn't legal. It doesn't seem so simple since camgirls have been doing this for quite some time without many repercussions coming to the surface (at least I haven't heard of any cases, myself.) Furthermore, I wonder how websites would get away with allowing this if it's a definite felony, full stop. But I will keep looking for answers!

No, in reality you should consult with a lawyer...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/CrimeBlotter/story?id=91462
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It is actually a law on the books to keep stores getting returns on underwear & putting it back on the shelf to sell. Then there is a law against mailing hazardous material. Every email, every ad, every credit card process to pay for it is all evidence. Of course, you can roll the dice & take the risk. Lots of people take a risk of getting a speeding ticket when going over the speed limit & sometimes they get caught. Once they get caught they pay a fine & insurance rates go up for 3 years. How much did it cost them to speed?

Loopholes? Are you a lawyer? Do you really think the financial risk is worth it? Rather than focus on perfect legal venues to earn money on cam, selling videos and such?

Websites put it into the contracts that you are the one responsible not them, they also can afford lots of lawyers, can you?

Most of all, I would consult a lawyer, cause he is paid to dispense legal advice, not girls on a forum.

YoruMusume
04-13-2016, 02:35 PM
Am I lawyer? No, why must you talk down to me like that to make a point? Speeding tickets aren't relevant, traffic laws are different. I may not be a lawyer, but I think I'm still allowed to give advice, given my experience. I'm not over here fronting as a lawyer, I'm simply just trying to add to the discussion.

Sam38g
04-13-2016, 03:58 PM
I don't think discussing loop holes & how to get around any law is productive.

If you like taking those kind of risk then go for it. Personally, I won't take that risk for any money.

Sam

YoruMusume
04-13-2016, 04:29 PM
I'm really happy that you have it figured out on your end, but some of us might still be interested in some specific links or other information that point to exactly WHAT is legal or illegal about selling panties before shutting it down completely as a source of extra money.

For instance, if the law states that panties can't be sold for the purpose of being reworn, then that does change things. This could mean that by having a disclaimer about the intended use of the panties could mean that we're in compliance with the law. I'm not sure, but I would like to know, and will share my findings if I scrounge anything up.

Just to be clear, I'm not advocating that we break the law, just that we know the specific facts, whether it turns out to be completely illegal across the board or not. The understanding of the law is scattered, so clearly, this is a great opportunity for us to try to shed some light on it.

LizzyMe
04-13-2016, 05:48 PM
Selling panties is not worth the risk to me. I try to get the custies to buy my videos and photo sets, voice clips, phone and texting packages.
Plus, I get kinda concerned about some random stranger having my DNA.
Maybe I watch too many detective shows, but it is something to consider thou.

For more info check out...
Used Panties Selling Advice by Amber's Nectar on YouTube

Rispy_Girl
04-13-2016, 09:00 PM
I'd be interested in a more definitive answer. I wonder if there are any lawyers on here.

DonaDiabla
04-14-2016, 11:09 PM
I have been selling panties for a year and I enjoy my experience. Personally, I was surprised that I started getting sales after my first week.But I also sell tons of other things to my custies as well. I have a different set of custies for everything including panty selling. Also I would also say that girls should look at the legal aspects of selling panties as well as if selling panties are right for them. Panty selling is in a legal grey area and a lot of girls do not make tons of profit of them:O.Panty selling is just one source income for me and I do pretty well. :) Again I would say that each person should weight their own pros and cons about panty selling.

TheBrownFox
04-17-2016, 09:13 PM
I'd be interested in a more definitive answer. I wonder if there are any lawyers on here.


Does anyone know if that PornLaw guy (or whatever his name was) still posts in any of the forum areas?

Glamourmilf
04-17-2016, 09:52 PM
Does anyone know if that PornLaw guy (or whatever his name was) still posts in any of the forum areas?

He's pretty active on Twitter, and easy to reach.
Try emailing him too.

Rispy_Girl
04-17-2016, 11:05 PM
He's pretty active on Twitter, and easy to reach.
Try emailing him too.

What's his twitter name? Sounds like a good guy to be following.

Glamourmilf
04-17-2016, 11:11 PM
What's his twitter name? Sounds like a good guy to be following.

@pornlaw

PixiieGirl
04-18-2016, 02:13 AM
does anyone know if it's illegal to do in the UK?

TheBrownFox
04-18-2016, 10:23 PM
He's pretty active on Twitter, and easy to reach.
Try emailing him too.

I'm not interested in getting in touch with him. I was just asking for Rispy_Girl. :) Thanks.

EdithOutlier
04-19-2016, 03:19 AM
I sold panties online for years and didn't have any trouble. I'm based in Australia but I mailed to custies all over the world, including America and the UK.

The applicable laws would vary from country to country, but it's unlikely most countries would have laws specifically related to selling panties. It's possible that some laws around mailing hazardous or obscene materials might apply, but I'd be surprised if they'd bother following it up. A bit like jaywalking, there's a couple of places where that's actually taken seriously on its own, but it's mostly used to harass someone that's suspicious in some other way.

There's been rumours online about it being a serious crime for years, but not much to back it up. The only reference I ever found to someone actually being arrested for it is referenced in this story Panty Business (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/30/oitnb-s-used-panty-business-is-real-the-shocking-true-story-behind-the-show-s-prison-panty-ring.html) where she got busted because of a disgruntled customer. She was prosecuted under an obscure law and got 5yrs probation. What I think is significant is that this article was written last year, and that is still the only case they could find to talk about, from way back in 2002.

Just make sure the package doesn't look suspicious, don't put your name on the return address or put a fake return address, and if there's a customs form to fill in put something harmless like 'socks' or 'scarf'.

camcouple2
06-08-2016, 09:59 PM
Does anyone know if it is legal to sell used panties in Australia?

SuperPookie
06-09-2016, 06:49 AM
What do you guys think about PantyZoo? I'm just on PantyTrust now but I'm hardly getting any sales, though this month so far has been good.

laurielegs
06-09-2016, 09:39 AM
Plenty do get away with it but there has been at least one woman arrested for mailing dirty panties.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/CrimeBlotter/story?id=91462

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/30/oitnb-s-used-panty-business-is-real-the-shocking-true-story-behind-the-show-s-prison-panty-ring.html

"She was arrested when a letter was mailed to her with a label on it claiming that it contained child pornography. As it turns out, there was no child porn; the letter was from a disgruntled customer of Vetter’s hoping to get her in trouble.
Vetter faced five years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine. In the end, she was sentenced to five years’ probation after aiding federal authorities in the investigation of her customers."

This also makes me wonder what information did they get from her about her customers and were some of them arrested too?

TheBrownFox
06-09-2016, 12:16 PM
I sold panties online for years and didn't have any trouble. I'm based in Australia but I mailed to custies all over the world, including America and the UK.

The applicable laws would vary from country to country, but it's unlikely most countries would have laws specifically related to selling panties. It's possible that some laws around mailing hazardous or obscene materials might apply, but I'd be surprised if they'd bother following it up. A bit like jaywalking, there's a couple of places where that's actually taken seriously on its own, but it's mostly used to harass someone that's suspicious in some other way.

There's been rumours online about it being a serious crime for years, but not much to back it up. The only reference I ever found to someone actually being arrested for it is referenced in this story Panty Business (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/30/oitnb-s-used-panty-business-is-real-the-shocking-true-story-behind-the-show-s-prison-panty-ring.html) where she got busted because of a disgruntled customer. She was prosecuted under an obscure law and got 5yrs probation. What I think is significant is that this article was written last year, and that is still the only case they could find to talk about, from way back in 2002.

Just make sure the package doesn't look suspicious, don't put your name on the return address or put a fake return address, and if there's a customs form to fill in put something harmless like 'socks' or 'scarf'.

LMAO at this part of the article: "“Sisters, we may be incarcerated, but our panties will travel the world. And in that way, long after we are gone, our smell will linger in some gas station in Toronto, in some office cubicle in Tokyo. And in that way, we are known. And in that way, we are remembered. Do you want to be remembered? Then sweat profusely, and fart with abandon, and make a reek, make a reek, my sisters, make a reek to last one thousand years!”

SuperPookie
06-12-2016, 11:00 AM
I did finally sign up for Panty Zoo and evidently I'm a real dumbass because I can't figure out this site at all. Not even the basics like how to upload a ad lol.

Rena83
06-13-2016, 04:01 PM
For panties first, get yourself a digital scale and then weigh your package. Purchase postage through the internet/go and see how much it will cost to ship your package and slap that many stamps on. I sell items all the time through the mail and yardsale sites and this saves so many trips to the post office. If you aren't in the USA, you'll have to see how your countries mail service is set up and work with that.

Secondly, use a bogus "return" mail address or use the buyer mail address as the return address. If the post office finds your soiled panties they can't track them back to you at least, not unless the buyer squeals, but they wouldn't likely dare let anybody know they have a panty fetish.

As far as selling them, Ebanned is a great site. They tend to protect sellers and buyers from frauds. One time years ago my package got lost and I was turned in. Ebanned suspended my account but I re mailed a new dirty pair and the site and buyer worked with me to remove the suspension. They don't play around. Non paying bidders will be suspended too and they used to not charge you a fee for that sale.

Other than that don't use Paypal for adult items, ever. Craigs List works at times. My hustle is usually phone sex guys tend to drop their facebook/contact details in a conversation, I take note, then I contact them from my fake character social networking site and arrange for panty sales that way.

Rena83
07-08-2016, 06:00 AM
eBay is hot with used panties. I sold several as new and "modeled" them but I made the mistake of selling one with a surprise video and videos of ourselves aren't allowed. They cancelled my auctions after people paid so it wasn't a big deal.

Has anybody ever sold panties on eBay? It says in the adult category we don't have to accept PayPal! So that gets around any PP holds!

Just st wondering if others have had issues. Also, I know women on there troll for any violation and report it to cut down the competitor. A panty buyer told me! Lol which is likely how mine got removed as my panty and video went for 150 bucks! I looked around a few days and watched auctions and many were cancelled within a couple days. Yet some women sell hundreds. Just wondering what other people have experienced. I like the ability to track items in eBay, feedback and that I can see my actual buyers address, etc. I am accepting cash only at the po box or e gift cards to Wal Mart and just using the sales for grocery money.

Rena83
07-11-2016, 08:03 PM
To any person wondering about eBay not worth it now.

eBay fees
Can't take PayPal
Must have a po box to receive payments
eBay is a hawk on used panties
In fact I'm about done selling other items on eBay because they are horrible and PayPal isn't any better