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Seductive_Brit
10-06-2021, 08:13 AM
It is! After your post I googled and found a nice description:
JOI focuses on giving instruction for how to jerk off. When to start, when to stop. How fast or slow to go. How hard to grip. When and where to cum. Edging and denial can be part of the instructions, but aren't mandatory parts. It's about having someone else be in charge of what you get to feel and when.

JOE has more of a focus on shame and responsibility. It's about offloading the "responsibility" for masturbating onto someone else. Usually, there's an underlying current of some sort of irresponsible behavior, because it often involves someone being encouraged to masturbate to excess or to something they wouldn't normally find arousing. Even if the guy doesn't want to masturbate to excess or to something unusual, JOE is often requested when the guy feels some shame about it or has been told by someone else that he shouldn't masturbate.

JOE shares a murky boundary with gooning (excessive edging and the resulting stupidity that supposedly results from it) and sexual "training" (such as guys who wanted to be "trained" to be aroused by cocks or sucking cock or trans women).

ps. And I also have some guys that claim they want joi, but don't follow the instructions. lol! oh I'd better ask them too!


Oh wow, I had no idea! I'm learning so much haha

Luci Fer
10-06-2021, 08:18 AM
Oh wow, I had no idea! I'm learning so much haha

;D you had no idea, but your subconscious did!

gbjenna
10-06-2021, 09:04 AM
Same! If I do it before the shift, I sit there like a log ;D But workouts are wonderful after! They just a great way to shake these hours off lol

I've yet to experience this so called energy people get for the rest of their day after a morning workout! Yes perfect for clearing your head after!

Miss_ShaSha
10-06-2021, 09:16 AM
I've yet to experience this so called energy people get for the rest of their day after a morning workout! Yes perfect for clearing your head after!

Aerobic exercise for about 30-40 min where it feels comfortable and you sweat a lil actually gives people energy. If you're doing HIT or HIIT about 1 or 2 hrs later you'll be sluggish and need a nap. Those type of training sessions zap energy.

The comfortable stuff GIVES you energy. I know...I was a Spinning Instructor for 7+ years. People just go too hard and think it'll give them energy all day. Umm, not really.

Miss_ShaSha
10-06-2021, 09:20 AM
STFO 2 hrs and $8 lolollll SM is really fuckin slow today. I'm gonna go til 12pm CST then fuck off til 3pm and go til 6pm.

Cutie101
10-06-2021, 09:31 AM
STFO 2 hrs and $8 lolollll SM is really fuckin slow today. I'm gonna go til 12pm CST then fuck off til 3pm and go til 6pm.

I have been on for almost 4 hours and it's really slow. But it's wednesday, so you shouldn't be surprised :))

gbjenna
10-06-2021, 11:08 AM
Aerobic exercise for about 30-40 min where it feels comfortable and you sweat a lil actually gives people energy. If you're doing HIT or HIIT about 1 or 2 hrs later you'll be sluggish and need a nap. Those type of training sessions zap energy.

The comfortable stuff GIVES you energy. I know...I was a Spinning Instructor for 7+ years. People just go too hard and think it'll give them energy all day. Umm, not really.

That makes sense tbh. I do HIIT sometimes and a lot weight training with usually a little cardio warm up. I see a PT once a week too which is intense. I always nap after leg day and PT sessions!
It didn’t dawn on me to consider the intensity of the workout hahaa

Cutie101
10-06-2021, 11:59 AM
Yesterday I stopped at 9 hours, as I got other stuff to do. Still did a decent amount.
Jasmin: $178
Imlive: $91
Streamate: $9
Total: $278

Today I am pushing 12 hours (10 with breaks) again.



Update: 6 hours in and only $25, then I caught a new and good client and made over my low goal.
5 hours left and I start being hopeful for one more good client.

Update: 10 hours and slow af. Grateful for that one client. 2 more hours and I am out.

Update: 12 hours and it's been pulling teeth. Totally lucky with that one client, but that's the purpose of staying the fuck on, right? Glad I didn't abandon after 4 hours of slowness.

Jasmin: $350 ($260 only from that one client, the rest were 4-5 minute privates, tons of hours in freechat and tips)
Chaturbate: $10
Streamate: $0
Imlive: $0

Total: $360

Back again tomorow, for a new 12 hr round!

LeilaB
10-06-2021, 02:08 PM
I finally managed to buy a new computer instead of my 10 year old laptop, so from now on I'm able to watch series while streaming and splitting SM with something. I haven't decided yet what site to work for besides SM, but I'm considering Stripchat and Imlive. I will also try Skyprivate, it can run in the background while streaming.
First day with the new equipment is not bad, I made $74 in 3 hours

naomi_doll
10-06-2021, 02:15 PM
I am looking at the succesful models on Jasmin, since I can see their stats. On average, an above average and top earning model is putting about 200-260 hours online per month. These ladies are really greedy :)))) Some of them has high tippers who spoil them with $5-$10k in a shift, but no, they stick there and keep staying the fuck on, they don't "reward" themselves with less hours on cam and go offline immediately after. And the next day they are back and grinding. I feel so ashamed of myself... That's a winner attitude!
I am super tempted to put 200 hours this month, as I used to put back when i was making a lot :))) I guess I have no choice but fucking do it.

I love that you look at the stats, it's nice to see that we can get the same results if we put in the same work. Now we just have to put in the work! :bullwhip:

Ambercat
10-06-2021, 02:20 PM
I finally managed to buy a new computer instead of my 10 year old laptop, so from now on I'm able to watch series while streaming and splitting SM with something. I haven't decided yet what site to work for besides SM, but I'm considering Stripchat and Imlive. I will also try Skyprivate, it can run in the background while streaming.
First day with the new equipment is not bad, I made $74 in 3 hours

I've just started with stripchat and having pretty decent results. Try and start when you have 2 weeks available to make the most of your "new status". I was only able to do the first 5 days of it because of house guests but I've still been earning equal or more than streamate - which makes up for it being slow.

Miss_ShaSha
10-06-2021, 02:47 PM
4+ hrs and $10 an hr on SM sheesh. I've got a headache and I'm gonna throw the towel in at 5pm CST. I tried. Tomorrow is a new day.

Esixxx
10-06-2021, 02:52 PM
4+ hrs and $10 an hr on SM sheesh. I've got a headache and I'm gonna throw the towel in at 5pm CST. I tried. Tomorrow is a new day.

Today has been brutal

LeilaB
10-06-2021, 02:58 PM
I've just started with stripchat and having pretty decent results. Try and start when you have 2 weeks available to make the most of your "new status". I was only able to do the first 5 days of it because of house guests but I've still been earning equal or more than streamate - which makes up for it being slow.

Congrats for your good results! Can I ask you what is your strategy on stripchat? I mean, I'm just getting to know the site but its concept is totally different than SM. I don't want to do full shows, using toys for tips in public, but I'm afraid I can't be successful without it.

Luci Fer
10-06-2021, 06:56 PM
I finally managed to buy a new computer instead of my 10 year old laptop, so from now on I'm able to watch series while streaming and splitting SM with something. I haven't decided yet what site to work for besides SM, but I'm considering Stripchat and Imlive. I will also try Skyprivate, it can run in the background while streaming.
First day with the new equipment is not bad, I made $74 in 3 hours

Leila, tell more about Imlive once you test it please? I 'd like to try other sites, stripchat doesn't really appeal to me because of public shows. I don't know anything about Imlive though, would be nice to add another online site.

Snowgirl
10-07-2021, 12:32 AM
I finally managed to buy a new computer instead of my 10 year old laptop, so from now on I'm able to watch series while streaming and splitting SM with something. I haven't decided yet what site to work for besides SM, but I'm considering Stripchat and Imlive. I will also try Skyprivate, it can run in the background while streaming.
First day with the new equipment is not bad, I made $74 in 3 hours

Congrats for your new pc! Now better equipment means more money. What laptop did you get?

Seductive_Brit
10-07-2021, 02:53 AM
;D you had no idea, but your subconscious did!

Haha, my subconscious is aligning with my work :')

LeilaB
10-07-2021, 03:21 AM
Leila, tell more about Imlive once you test it please? I 'd like to try other sites, stripchat doesn't really appeal to me because of public shows. I don't know anything about Imlive though, would be nice to add another online site.

I've made a little research today, and the site has kinda bad reviews at the ImLive Thread and at Wecamgirls. The traffic is said to be bad, and if I understood well, the model commission is only 12% if the member uses bonus credits. In addition in the first few online hours you have to work at a $0.98 per min. rate, and as the basic commission is 30% after a 10 minute show you get less than $3 loool. So i'm looking for another option now. :/ I wish my camroom and my photos were good enough for Livejasmin, I would definitely try that instead of Imlive.


Congrats for your new pc! Now better equipment means more money. What laptop did you get?

Thank you Snowgirl! I bought a pc with Intel Core i5-8500 6-Core 3GHz processor and 16GB RAM. My old laptop had an i3-3220 cpu and 6GB RAM, and the difference is huge :D

Snowgirl
10-07-2021, 03:38 AM
Thank you Snowgirl! I bought a pc with Intel Core i5-8500 6-Core 3GHz processor and 16GB RAM. My old laptop had an i3-3220 cpu and 6GB RAM, and the difference is huge :D
That's a good choice!

Seductive_Brit
10-07-2021, 03:44 AM
So I want to try to aim for 4 hours today. I've been sticking fairly consistently to trying to do at least 2 hours daily but honestly on SM it can be like pulling teeth at the minute, the amount of timewasters is unreal as I'm sure you ladies have seen. As I was writing that I did get pulled into an exclusive, which I am legit grateful for but the guy was boring and it was short, didn't even remove all my clothes. I will see how the first 2 hours go, if it's quiet then I'll break and do another 2 hours. Aiming to splitcam on Cam4 for quiet stretches, Cam4 is no goldmine but every so often it pulls through for ya ha.

For anyone bored but grinding away, STFO and wanting to up their game, recommend reading this thread as well:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?150777-Ways-To-STALL-and-Make-More-Money

Honestly just reading that suddenly, I was doubling how long my shows were. You forget these little tricks and to take your time after a while and it so does make a difference. Made some new 50% or even full just chatting customers that way and also just enjoyed the shows so much more. For the minute men you end up not wasting your time and take some of their money without doing much. What we do is an art, a unique service that many people could not and would not want to provide and I now refuse to be rushed or do more than I have to, especially when I'm STFO for long hours. And another point, our orgasms have powerful manifesting energy, so I focus on what I want to attract into my life when I pleasure myself and focus on connecting to my divine feminine which I know might sound silly to some but it helps with mindset I find and gives meaning to what I do. Because my pleasure is for me, no one else, they can pay for the privilege of watching me do it, but it's not up to them. I momentarily forget the guy and they usually love it because they can see you genuinely enjoying yourself. The most genuine guys who actually care about your pleasure are also usually the most generous. Of course there are moments one needs to suck it up and think only of the money, but that must be balanced with well being to be sustainable I think. There's my little motivational bit for the day.

Will continue to update. Have managed an hour so far and made a small amount but enough to stick around another hour so let's goooooo!

UPDATE: 1 hour 45 mins in, 3 potentials not much movement in those 45, taking my break because I'm also hungry lol

Seductive_Brit
10-07-2021, 04:12 AM
Update: 6 hours in and only $25, then I caught a new and good client and made over my low goal.
5 hours left and I start being hopeful for one more good client.

Update: 10 hours and slow af. Grateful for that one client. 2 more hours and I am out.

Update: 12 hours and it's been pulling teeth. Totally lucky with that one client, but that's the purpose of staying the fuck on, right? Glad I didn't abandon after 4 hours of slowness.

Jasmin: $350 ($260 only from that one client, the rest were 4-5 minute privates, tons of hours in freechat and tips)
Chaturbate: $10
Streamate: $0
Imlive: $0

Total: $360

Back again tomorow, for a new 12 hr round!

You inspire me with the hours you put in Cutie! You go girl, every little bit helps and builds.


I finally managed to buy a new computer instead of my 10 year old laptop, so from now on I'm able to watch series while streaming and splitting SM with something. I haven't decided yet what site to work for besides SM, but I'm considering Stripchat and Imlive. I will also try Skyprivate, it can run in the background while streaming.
First day with the new equipment is not bad, I made $74 in 3 hours

OMG LeilaB I am soooo happy for you! Honestly it will make a massive difference. Did for me, simply changing laptop took me to earnings that I could actually live on and comfortably so if I STFO lol, could never have done it without.


I've just started with stripchat and having pretty decent results. Try and start when you have 2 weeks available to make the most of your "new status". I was only able to do the first 5 days of it because of house guests but I've still been earning equal or more than streamate - which makes up for it being slow.

Ooh thanks for this Ambercat, like Luci Fer I am also looking for other sites to experiment with. But I am also not a big fan of public shows.


4+ hrs and $10 an hr on SM sheesh. I've got a headache and I'm gonna throw the towel in at 5pm CST. I tried. Tomorrow is a new day.

Sha you are honestly such an inspiration, your niche is so tricky and you are smashing it and putting in those hours every day like a boss. You inspire us all queen.


Leila, tell more about Imlive once you test it please? I 'd like to try other sites, stripchat doesn't really appeal to me because of public shows. I don't know anything about Imlive though, would be nice to add another online site.

Looking at lower posts looks like Imlive isn't worth it according to Leila

Cutie101
10-07-2021, 05:42 AM
I wish my camroom and my photos were good enough for Livejasmin


They relaxed their rules, trust me, if you have a clean room, it's all good. If you can describe your cam room (don't need to put pics, for safety reasons- or you can DM to me an imgur link then you can delete it), i can help you improve it. You don't need much, believe me.
As for pics, if you have a good phone, or you have a friend that has a camera and you can borrow it, you can look at youtube tutorials for instagramable pictures :)) You only need 4-5 professional type of pics, nothing fancy. You don't need luxurious decors anymore, neither for cam nor pics. You can take the pics in front of a clean wall, empty or with a plant as a decoration, or a lamp, etc.
The best inspiration you find on jasmin at the hot flirt category. There are tons of independent models in there with modest decors. At girls category there are also, if you hover with your mouse trough the rooms, you will get an idea. You can spot who is independent and who's from a studio.

They are now aiming for clean, non clutered and decent lit rooms.


Also, take your time to look trough girls and hot flirt category, to get an idea about profile pictures. You will be able to spot the top professional-studio type ones, to less professional but good quality ones. You'll see that there are plenty of "modest" profile pics also, that got accepted. Take a few minutes to look around.


I just rented myself a space for camming and i will only have a colored wall, a sofa and an accent accesory (in time i will probably add a fancy lamp and a painting above the sofa). Since I am in a fetish category, i will also add a shelving metal storage, to put some shoes and chains and that is it. Ok and a rug too, for soundproofing (both neighbors and my background echo for my microphone).

Currently, I work from a desk, on an office chair and behind me is my tufted dark colored bed with a chain on it and my dark curtains. I basically cam from a corner. And they were ok with it. A year ago, when they went crazy, they said is not enough, lol. That's why I left. Now they accept it again, so yeah... they did definitely relax everything.

Cutie101
10-07-2021, 05:59 AM
New shift!! Day 7. I can't believe I worked for a week, so many hours. It's still little, comparing with other models who have been doing this for years and they don't come on forums to brag they worked hard for a week, lol :)))) Looking at their stats, i often wonder: don't they have family problems, menstruation pain, an annoying bf, a headache, a nail broken, a pet (i see some posting pics with their pets, haha). Like... the discipline is insane. You really need mental discipline to leave everything at the door, the moment you press "broadcast". I can only feel like an idiot, wasting time of my life, procrastinating for minor problems that don't even matter now. Especially the most common one: "I don't feel like it... meh". Geez...

I remember in 2013-2014 when there was this top model on Jasmin, for 2 years in a row, that worked almost every day 14-16 hours shifts. On another forum someone was saying: "Ask any model to work 16 hours in ONE day, not two years and watch them calling an ambulance and a therapist after that day" :))))))))))))))))))). True True True.

I can't do 16 hours, but I noticed I can do 12 (16, occasionaly).

After 7 days I can tell the next:
- Idk who what posted on youtube anymore
- Idk what tea has been spilled this week and I didn't die for not knowing
- I don't know what happened in the country/ around the world since i haven't watched news.
- Malls and coffee shops still exist, they didn't dissapear
- My console and netflix are still there

- My bank account is $3000 bigger.
- I spent more time on cam, but mentally I feel better. News, twitter, gossips, covid, politics and other stuff were actually destroying me mentally and I wasn't in the mood to cam. One week without and I feel good. I might start to like living under a rock :)).


Let's see what happens today. Putting only 10 hours i think, because tomorow is friday and i wanna do 14 hours trough the weekend. Tuesday to friday i will be off, to move my shit into my new camming space, to clean it, to put everything in place, etc.

DeliveryLadyx
10-07-2021, 10:52 AM
New shift!! Day 7. I can't believe I worked for a week, so many hours. It's still little, comparing with other models who have been doing this for years and they don't come on forums to brag they worked hard for a week, lol :)))) Looking at their stats, i often wonder: don't they have family problems, menstruation pain, an annoying bf, a headache, a nail broken, a pet (i see some posting pics with their pets, haha). Like... the discipline is insane. You really need mental discipline to leave everything at the door, the moment you press "broadcast". I can only feel like an idiot, wasting time of my life, procrastinating for minor problems that don't even matter now. Especially the most common one: "I don't feel like it... meh". Geez...

I remember in 2013-2014 when there was this top model on Jasmin, for 2 years in a row, that worked almost every day 14-16 hours shifts. On another forum someone was saying: "Ask any model to work 16 hours in ONE day, not two years and watch them calling an ambulance and a therapist after that day" :))))))))))))))))))). True True True.

I can't do 16 hours, but I noticed I can do 12 (16, occasionaly).

After 7 days I can tell the next:
- Idk who what posted on youtube anymore
- Idk what tea has been spilled this week and I didn't die for not knowing
- I don't know what happened in the country/ around the world since i haven't watched news.
- Malls and coffee shops still exist, they didn't dissapear
- My console and netflix are still there

- My bank account is $3000 bigger.
- I spent more time on cam, but mentally I feel better. News, twitter, gossips, covid, politics and other stuff were actually destroying me mentally and I wasn't in the mood to cam. One week without and I feel good. I might start to like living under a rock :)).


Let's see what happens today. Putting only 10 hours i think, because tomorow is friday and i wanna do 14 hours trough the weekend. Tuesday to friday i will be off, to move my shit into my new camming space, to clean it, to put everything in place, etc.

Such an inspiration and very well done for pulling so many hours and for patience. This week suspension which equals a big loss of earnings made me reconsider myself and camming and how lucky I am to be able to make money on SM even when i have bad days or a bad week, always turns around depending on my hours and dedication inputed.


I've made a little research today, and the site has kinda bad reviews at the ImLive Thread and at Wecamgirls. The traffic is said to be bad, and if I understood well, the model commission is only 12% if the member uses bonus credits. In addition in the first few online hours you have to work at a $0.98 per min. rate, and as the basic commission is 30% after a 10 minute show you get less than $3 loool. So i'm looking for another option now. :/ I wish my camroom and my photos were good enough for Livejasmin, I would definitely try that instead of Imlive.



Thank you Snowgirl! I bought a pc with Intel Core i5-8500 6-Core 3GHz processor and 16GB RAM. My old laptop had an i3-3220 cpu and 6GB RAM, and the difference is huge :D
Leila, congratulations for the new pc! Have you just bought it from a shop? I will just say, your configuration is pretty much enough for 2 sites running at decent cpu (70%) aprox for long period of time, and this considering one site in 1080p and one in 720p. and maybe light browsing in the back. May your new pc brings you ton of money xxx

Cutie101
10-07-2021, 10:59 AM
Such an inspiration and very well done for pulling so many hours and for patience. This week suspension which equals a big loss of earnings made me reconsider myself and camming and how lucky I am to be able to make money on SM even when i have bad days or a bad week, always turns around depending on my hours and dedication inputed.


OMG did you get your account back? I haven't followed the SM thread since you posted that...

DeliveryLadyx
10-07-2021, 11:03 AM
OMG did you get your account back? I haven't followed the SM thread since you posted that...

Oh yes, Boleyn models contacted Liz and I did sent her an email separately and Liz reviewed and agreed I haven't done the mistake with a malicious intent and given me a suspended 3 days instead, only from tomorrow I am able to stream. I won't refuse any business from my regulars but in the show i will just say babe, I cannot do etc but let's do that instead or etc, I need to put my brain to work to find creative ways to retain them and pull continous money from them and educate the new users. Tricky situation though.

Cutie101
10-07-2021, 11:07 AM
Been on for 3 hours. It was supposed to be 6, but I had to take a break to go get some stuff at the camming apartament and move some things around. So, no more breaks untill the shift is over, except bathroom visits. 6 hours left.

But during those 3 hours it was brutal. Only $35.
I hope a client pops during these 6 hours left. I want to make $300 soooo bad! Hahahaha!

honeybirdette
10-07-2021, 11:25 AM
was the reason because you showed the customer the porn you were watching? i remember you said you were trying to think of what they could suspend you for and that was the only thing you could come up with? i wouldn't think twice about doing that either, its really made me be extra cautious now.

kortneykay
10-07-2021, 11:38 AM
Got on early, pushed myself to get ready and was already surprised with a few indy shows. I think today's going to be decent. Winter is indeed coming and I have goals to reach so I feel now through the new year will be on a loop. After I get groceries I'm getting back on and staying the fuck on.

DeliveryLadyx
10-07-2021, 11:51 AM
was the reason because you showed the customer the porn you were watching? i remember you said you were trying to think of what they could suspend you for and that was the only thing you could come up with? i wouldn't think twice about doing that either, its really made me be extra cautious now.
Yes, was because I pointed the camera to the porn on pornhub, a very vanilla porn. That was the reason for direct ban, closure of account. No still images of other people, movies or even you know, if I have TV with the news on and by mistake I point the camera to the news will bring definite closure of my account, no second chance. This time I got suspended almost whole week. Believe me, I feel is deeply unfair and very harsh, I wasn't doing anything ilegall. Is because is appearing other people's face. On streamate now is an inbuilt bot scanning faces all the time in freechat or pvt mode and the compliance team decided to close my account just like that. Need to be extremely cautious on sm now, everything has changed because of the new rules with mastercard. BTW, now they don't accept calling daddy even in the context of sugar daddy or step daddy, you know, using in non taboo way.

gbjenna
10-07-2021, 12:39 PM
BTW, now they don't accept calling daddy even in the context of sugar daddy or step daddy, you know, using in non taboo way.

Did support say this? I'm on the Discord server and the rep on there called Angela said just the other day that this is OK, so long as it's not in the manner of an underage roleplay or the likes. She didn't specify on step daddy specifically though. So maybe that would cross the grey area of taboos/underage roleplay?

MsJess
10-07-2021, 12:40 PM
New shift!! Day 7. I can't believe I worked for a week, so many hours. It's still little, comparing with other models who have been doing this for years and they don't come on forums to brag they worked hard for a week, lol :)))) Looking at their stats, i often wonder: don't they have family problems, menstruation pain, an annoying bf, a headache, a nail broken, a pet (i see some posting pics with their pets, haha). Like... the discipline is insane. You really need mental discipline to leave everything at the door, the moment you press "broadcast". I can only feel like an idiot, wasting time of my life, procrastinating for minor problems that don't even matter now. Especially the most common one: "I don't feel like it... meh". Geez...

I remember in 2013-2014 when there was this top model on Jasmin, for 2 years in a row, that worked almost every day 14-16 hours shifts. On another forum someone was saying: "Ask any model to work 16 hours in ONE day, not two years and watch them calling an ambulance and a therapist after that day" :))))))))))))))))))). True True True.

I can't do 16 hours, but I noticed I can do 12 (16, occasionaly).

After 7 days I can tell the next:
- Idk who what posted on youtube anymore
- Idk what tea has been spilled this week and I didn't die for not knowing
- I don't know what happened in the country/ around the world since i haven't watched news.
- Malls and coffee shops still exist, they didn't dissapear
- My console and netflix are still there

- My bank account is $3000 bigger.
- I spent more time on cam, but mentally I feel better. News, twitter, gossips, covid, politics and other stuff were actually destroying me mentally and I wasn't in the mood to cam. One week without and I feel good. I might start to like living under a rock :)).


Let's see what happens today. Putting only 10 hours i think, because tomorow is friday and i wanna do 14 hours trough the weekend. Tuesday to friday i will be off, to move my shit into my new camming space, to clean it, to put everything in place, etc.

I was in bed crying and just read this, jumped out of the bed, showered and now I'm online, cutie thank you! you probably don't know but you are helping so much of us to motivate lol big hugs

It's so dead but I'm staying on now matter what i need to make at least 140 on SM and it's crickets right now ugh
Let's do this <3

Cutie101
10-07-2021, 12:45 PM
I was in bed crying and just read this, jumped out of the bed, showered and now I'm online, cutie thank you! you probably don't know but you are helping so much of us to motivate lol big hugs

It's so dead but I'm staying on now matter what i need to make at least 140 on SM and it's crickets right now ugh
Let's do this <3

Sister, I am happy if this motivates and helps you. I only hope the reason you were crying was minor and won't matter tomorow or next week.
IT IS crickets, comparing to friday- tuesday, I have made $35 in 5 hours! But we stay the fuck on, because it always picks up, if not today or tomorow, but by the end of the month please believe me, you will end with a nice amount!

DeliveryLadyx
10-07-2021, 12:46 PM
Did support say this? I'm on the Discord server and the rep on there called Angela said just the other day that this is OK, so long as it's not in the manner of an underage roleplay or the likes. She didn't specify on step daddy specifically though. So maybe that would cross the grey area of taboos/underage roleplay?
I'm very confused, I asked the UK rep and said to be on the safe side not to use. I had written on the profile as well daddy in the context of sugar daddy (generous men and at the requrst of another regular which likes me to say I am his fuck toy - non taboo way) and has been taken out from my profile. It seems to me they don't know and is a grey area. However, after I nearly lost my job by being banned just for showing a porn movie (could have been just a normal TV programme) am steering well away from anything in the grey area. Is just not worth it.

gbjenna
10-07-2021, 12:53 PM
I'm very confused, I asked the UK rep and said to be on the safe side not to use. I had written on the profile as well daddy in the context of sugar daddy (generous men and at the requrst of another regular which likes me to say I am his fuck toy - non taboo way) and has been taken out from my profile. It seems to me they don't know and is a grey area. However, after I nearly lost my job by being banned just for showing a porn movie (could have been just a normal TV programme) am steering well away from anything in the grey area. Is just not worth it.

This is what Angela said.

AngelaStreamate — 10/05/2021
My personal feeling on "Daddy" is that if you are afraid to use it, then by all means omit it from your profile/verbiage. However, if it's not in relation to an underage roleplay or incest roleplay then it is fine. You could easily say "bitch" shouldn't be used, but we all know there are variations on what that means.

AngelaStreamate — 10/05/2021
Yes, you can use the word Daddy, it just has to be VERY clearly not underage role play or incest play. That's the only instance in which you could be in trouble for it.

I wish we could get one straight answer, we always seem to get mixed answers depending on who we speak to!! A black and white answer could save a lot of confusion and lines being crossed surely! I agree with you that tbh that it's probably easier and less stress to just be overly cautious.

Just to add re your other post, could ‘sugar daddy’ possibly come under the escort umbrella? Maybe that’s why that’s a no go or a grey area?

kamiliam
10-07-2021, 01:09 PM
I have been calling guys “daddy” sexually since I lost my virginity. never called my dad that, never engaged in incest or AP on cam or otherwise. I’m not saying it isn’t risky now but if the censorship is without context there will be very little any of us can say. That being said, if everyone could just stop with the pedo bait it would be a big help for everyone. There is no way to dance around that.

DeliveryLadyx
10-07-2021, 01:12 PM
This is what Angela said.

AngelaStreamate — 10/05/2021
My personal feeling on "Daddy" is that if you are afraid to use it, then by all means omit it from your profile/verbiage. However, if it's not in relation to an underage roleplay or incest roleplay then it is fine. You could easily say "bitch" shouldn't be used, but we all know there are variations on what that means.

AngelaStreamate — 10/05/2021
Yes, you can use the word Daddy, it just has to be VERY clearly not underage role play or incest play. That's the only instance in which you could be in trouble for it.

I wish we could get one straight answer, we always seem to get mixed answers depending on who we speak to!! A black and white answer could save a lot of confusion and lines being crossed surely! I agree with you that tbh that it's probably easier and less stress to just be overly cautious.

Just to add re your other post, could ‘sugar daddy’ possibly come under the escort umbrella? Maybe that’s why that’s a no go or a grey area?
No, I never use anything which may involve or suggest a physical contact. I understood from the UK rep that not to leave anything which may be interpreted. Wasnt the case in the past, but to me it seems sm is over cautious now because of the new rules, usually sm treat cases with "common sense", but not anymore. No one will give a straight answer by the look of it.

DeliveryLadyx
10-07-2021, 01:18 PM
I have been calling guys “daddy” sexually since I lost my virginity. never called my dad that, never engaged in incest or AP on cam or otherwise. I’m not saying it isn’t risky now but if the censorship is without context there will be very little any of us can say. That being said, if everyone could just stop with the pedo bait it would be a big help for everyone. There is no way to dance around that.
I was doing the same and with my regulars which like the term (I have to stress again, in no pedo way). But I won't use any longer this, the UK rep says not to, if is any shadow of doubt, don't use any term which can be misinterpreted. Now, in my case, non related to the daddy thing, I am going "once bitten, twice shy".

laurielegs
10-07-2021, 01:25 PM
New shift!! Day 7. I can't believe I worked for a week, so many hours. It's still little, comparing with other models who have been doing this for years and they don't come on forums to brag they worked hard for a week, lol :)))) Looking at their stats, i often wonder: don't they have family problems, menstruation pain, an annoying bf, a headache, a nail broken, a pet (i see some posting pics with their pets, haha). Like... the discipline is insane. You really need mental discipline to leave everything at the door, the moment you press "broadcast". I can only feel like an idiot, wasting time of my life, procrastinating for minor problems that don't even matter now. Especially the most common one: "I don't feel like it... meh". Geez...

I remember in 2013-2014 when there was this top model on Jasmin, for 2 years in a row, that worked almost every day 14-16 hours shifts. On another forum someone was saying: "Ask any model to work 16 hours in ONE day, not two years and watch them calling an ambulance and a therapist after that day" :))))))))))))))))))). True True True.

I can't do 16 hours, but I noticed I can do 12 (16, occasionaly).

After 7 days I can tell the next:
- Idk who what posted on youtube anymore
- Idk what tea has been spilled this week and I didn't die for not knowing
- I don't know what happened in the country/ around the world since i haven't watched news.
- Malls and coffee shops still exist, they didn't dissapear
- My console and netflix are still there

- My bank account is $3000 bigger.
- I spent more time on cam, but mentally I feel better. News, twitter, gossips, covid, politics and other stuff were actually destroying me mentally and I wasn't in the mood to cam. One week without and I feel good. I might start to like living under a rock :)).


Let's see what happens today. Putting only 10 hours i think, because tomorow is friday and i wanna do 14 hours trough the weekend. Tuesday to friday i will be off, to move my shit into my new camming space, to clean it, to put everything in place, etc.

This is so helpful to read that others have the same issues I struggle with! I've been limited in how much I can work due to a relative who lost her job during the worst of covid staying with me, but if I'm honest with myself I've not pushed myself to work as many hours as I could have.

She has money saved and a great new apartment in another city and is moving next week! I'm so happy for her plus super excited to have my place to myself again and the ability to work without worrying about noise or the hours I work.

Also I started a new migraine preventative, emgality, and it's working so well for me, almost no migraines at all. With those two issues solved now, I want to reach for those longer hours too.

Your post is so inspiring to read!

LeilaB
10-07-2021, 02:29 PM
Leila, congratulations for the new pc! Have you just bought it from a shop? I will just say, your configuration is pretty much enough for 2 sites running at decent cpu (70%) aprox for long period of time, and this considering one site in 1080p and one in 720p. and maybe light browsing in the back. May your new pc brings you ton of money xxx

Thank you bestie! I bought it on an electronics second-hand webshop from a reliable seller for half the price of a new one. Hopefully it's gonna pay off quickly, I need the money for other stuff. One thing I've learned is that you can never be "ready with everything". :D New tech stuff, decorations, toys, outfits etc. there's always something to invest in as a cam girl. :D

MsJess
10-07-2021, 04:20 PM
Did support say this? I'm on the Discord server and the rep on there called Angela said just the other day that this is OK, so long as it's not in the manner of an underage roleplay or the likes. She didn't specify on step daddy specifically though. So maybe that would cross the grey area of taboos/underage roleplay?

How did you get verified? i havent been able to find a way to do so :(

gbjenna
10-07-2021, 05:46 PM
How did you get verified? i havent been able to find a way to do so :(

I think you have to follow the link via our log in page, and register to Discord with our name exactly the same as our model name. It can be changed after, but it needs to be the same when you sign up

gbjenna
10-07-2021, 05:52 PM
8hrs done yesterday, 5.5 done tonight. Had other stuff to fit in today so couldn't fit as many hours in. One more 8hr shift tomorrow and then I'm done for the weekend! Pretty sure I can hit my high target in that time too. It feels sooo good to be back in a proper routine after being so all over the place for the past 3 months!

Cutie101
10-08-2021, 05:22 AM
Sisters, I am so happy to read that my posts are motivating you. I am motivated watching others, so I know what it means. I'll keep posting here, so please do the same!
Speaking of yesterday, everything ended at 6 hours and only $35 made. A big bummer, after the whole week I made only $300+ every day, but there are days like this. I was supposed to be on for 12 hours, but I had to log off and run some other errands.
Anyway, new day. Today is friday, tuesday is the last day of pay period on Jasmin (now it's 14 days fixed), I almost reached 50% and I want to work hard ( I am not hoping to reach the 60% lvl before the pp ends), because the next period I will be busy setting up my new cam place, probably filming some extra clips, so I will not be able to put as many hours. I mean, I still want to put 100 hours, but... I'll see. Starting November, when everything is set, I will get my occasional 2-3 days a week off, most probably tuesday- thursday.
I'm starting 12 hours of avdentures trough the lands of crickets with occasional whales, hopefully :)))

Snowgirl
10-08-2021, 07:23 AM
Been on for 3 hours. It was supposed to be 6, but I had to take a break to go get some stuff at the camming apartament and move some things around. So, no more breaks untill the shift is over, except bathroom visits. 6 hours left.

But during those 3 hours it was brutal. Only $35.
I hope a client pops during these 6 hours left. I want to make $300 soooo bad! Hahahaha!

Cutie I'm impressed with your discipline!
Do you live in the same apartment which you rented for camming or you go home after every shift to sleep at home?

Cutie101
10-08-2021, 07:43 AM
Cutie I'm impressed with your discipline!
Do you live in the same apartment which you rented for camming or you go home after every shift to sleep at home?

I will go home after each shift. I was really lucky to find one in the same apartaments unit.
I have my own apartament, but made the mistake to buy a 1 bedroom apartament and realize I don't wanna cam from bedroom anymore. The apartament market is absolutely nuts right now and with the price of 2-3 bedroom apartament ($130-$160k) I rather wait and build a house. So I was lucky to find this apartament in an ok-ish condition, for super cheap price, to cam from it, till I will build a place. Thankfully, the rentals are cheaper since many people work from home, students don't look for renting apartaments anymore since they do online study, etc. Good moment to look for a place to cam if you have that in mind.
I will move my workout shit in there too, so i do my workout right after each shift, because i am sure when i get home i will be a lazy ass :))))
My bf calls it "the torture chamber" :)))) Because of these two things i will do in there :))

It's not ready yet, it has to be re-painted since the last tenants smoked in the apartament and the walls are beige and everything smells like smoke, ugh. But I only do the room I work in. Hopefully after October 15 to be able to cam from it, because I also pay mortgage for own apartament. Rent+ mortgage. Precious :))) I better work my ass off from there, only this fact will make me do 12 hours days, 4-5 days a week :))

MsJess
10-08-2021, 07:46 AM
Sister, I am happy if this motivates and helps you. I only hope the reason you were crying was minor and won't matter tomorow or next week.
IT IS crickets, comparing to friday- tuesday, I have made $35 in 5 hours! But we stay the fuck on, because it always picks up, if not today or tomorow, but by the end of the month please believe me, you will end with a nice amount!

Been on depression for quite a while now, and also I'm on my period which makes me more sensible LOL - Thanks for your concern <3
Just woke up thinking about this thread and getting ready to work even if it's slow, I'm putting in the hours to pile up everything that comes my way :D thanks for being such an inspiration :heartbeat:

Cutie101
10-08-2021, 07:56 AM
Been on depression for quite a while now, and also I'm on my period which makes me more sensible LOL - Thanks for your concern <3
Just woke up thinking about this thread and getting ready to work even if it's slow, I'm putting in the hours to pile up everything that comes my way :D thanks for being such an inspiration :heartbeat:

I noticed that cam sites are really rewarding with those who put at least 40 hours a week on cam, at fixed hours. We might not see it right now, but in a month or two, it becomes visible. Especially that we get to make regulars. Many of them expect us at same hours. Inconsistency is what made me lose a lot of regulars, because I was camming all over the place. In the end, camming is still some sort of a 9-5, no matter how we look at it :))) Only that we have the freedom to take time off without asking for permission :)).

DeliveryLadyx
10-08-2021, 08:03 AM
MsJess, is easy to feel low and is so much pressure with this job. And as a woman, we are dominated by hormones and with the autumn and darker days is very easy to feel flat.

Cutie, you do have a point. I really noticed the algorithm sending me traffic on sm at the hours I was more online on average, morning to late afternoon UK. If I get online "out of hours" I am really at the mercy of luck and if any regular happens to be online. I don't believe is a coincidence at all. Plus, I observed is getting better when I have steady 30hours weeks or more. I am mentally prepared to see a dip because I wasn't allowed to work this week, but maybe regulars will save the bacon and improve placement quickly.

Cutie101
10-08-2021, 08:27 AM
MsJess, is easy to feel low and is so much pressure with this job. And as a woman, we are dominated by hormones and with the autumn and darker days is very easy to feel flat.

Cutie, you do have a point. I really noticed the algorithm sending me traffic on sm at the hours I was more online on average, morning to late afternoon UK. If I get online "out of hours" I am really at the mercy of luck and if any regular happens to be online. I don't believe is a coincidence at all. Plus, I observed is getting better when I have steady 30hours weeks or more. I am mentally prepared to see a dip because I wasn't allowed to work this week, but maybe regulars will save the bacon and improve placement quickly.

I don't think it's a coincidence either. These sites and those who own whitelabels, the affiliates, etc. do obviously have their algorithms and systems, to determine which models worth having traffic sent to. They won't send traffic to a model who logs in here and there. When we do that, we obviously get the crumbs.
And it's logic:
-You have model X that logs in here and there, you never know when she feels like camming, she might be 12 hours today and then logs in for 3-4 hours, sometimes at noon, sometimes at morning... etc. You basically never be able to determine her camming schedule and you never know when she is present. It's like trying to guess if the news anchor feels like coming live today, at the 7PM news or not :))) Btw, news anchors and live morning tv shows are the best to look at. In my country, there is this news anchor that has been doing this for 20 years. Every morning, at 6 AM I see him, saying good morning. He said he has to wake up at 3 and go to sleep at 7 PM. Not only him, but the entire news team, obviously. They also are like camgirls. Leave everything at the door and do their job.

- Then you have model Y. You know she is online at least 4-5 days a week, between hours 3- 11 PM, let's say. She is always there. As a member or as an affiliate, you know you find her there, all the time. You watch her for a month and determine she is most likely to be online between these hours and in these days. Heck, streamate has this alghorithm right on our pages now and members see it.

Now guess who they decide to send traffic to :)) That's why we see results after a month of consistency, in general. Our schedules are being analyzed, before they decide it's worth having traffic sent towards us. I am a loser at keeping a fixed scheduled, but now that I approach my 30's, I make it a life priority from being serious, consistent and disciplined. I believe this will be financially rewarding.
I need it, because I want kids. And kids do have their fixed schedules (kindergarten, school, sleep, wake up, etc). I can't fuck their schedule because mine is all over the place so... yeah, it's time to grow tf up :))