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MyButter
01-18-2015, 10:24 AM
You jumping into the car does not make him a creep, how he proceeds after that does.

So you're saying I should be completely trusting of this random guy I've never encountered before who is telling me to get into his car?

Thespark88
01-18-2015, 10:29 AM
No I dont you should be completely trusting of him. If you are, that still doesnt mean your actions have anything to do with his creepiness. If it isnt you, it will be someone else! if it wasnt the girl in getting in his car, it would be the girl walking down the street, in the gym, or in the grocery store.

Vlodina
01-18-2015, 10:56 AM
There are bad people out there, and bad things happen. We can't wish it away. We don't want them to happen, nor do we deserve them to happen to us.

But, there are simple and sensible precautions that we can take to minimise our risk.
To avoid having our houses robbed, we lock the doors and have insurance. Someone can still break in, but through our actions we have tried to minimise the risk. We don't leave expensive belongings in view of the window, as to not tempt people.
To avoid being raped we don't walk down a dark alleyway late at night, and we don't invite strange men into our house when we are naked. Sure, we can still be attacked when we are in a burka during the day, or when a repair man comes around and we are wearing full body armour.
This girl is playing Russian roulette with her safety.

MissJu
01-18-2015, 11:14 AM
No I dont you should be completely trusting of him. If you are, that still doesnt mean your actions have anything to do with his creepiness. If it isnt you, it will be someone else! if it wasnt the girl in getting in his car, it would be the girl walking down the street, in the gym, or in the grocery store.
Aha, just a life wisdom no less. Lol
so what is your point?

Thespark88
01-18-2015, 11:20 AM
Obviously you have not been reading much of this thread. My point is and has always been that a woman is not to blame whatsoever ( not even partially) if she is harassed, assaulted or raped INCLUDING the women in the video, no matter what her actions were in the situation. Even if she were naked and literally sat on a dick, if she got up and changed her mind, no one has the right to take advantage of her.

Thespark88
01-18-2015, 11:26 AM
That being said, she or anyone else who doesnt take these precautions is not to blame if something happens to them, not even 'kinda' as you stated in your previous post.

MissJu
01-18-2015, 11:32 AM
Find outside a dog try to give him a bone after change your mind and try to take it back just because you are a woman.
As i said before if she would open a door with a pokerface, he probably would not even dare to stare at her. All ppl are different and we see would different. Not everything is fair.
If this whole situation would be fair such thing as this degradation mfc show would not be allowed at first place. First for money of another men she acted like a trained monkey, after waittt im a woman i can stop whatever at any time.

Aniela
01-18-2015, 11:33 AM
You jumping into the car does not make him a creep, how he proceeds after that does.

But it's perfectly logical to assume that, had she not gotten into the car w/ him in the first place, she wouldn't have to worry abt whether he's a creep. Right??

If the guy in the car is a creep, he is a creep. He is responsible for the fact that he is a creep.

Who is responsible for her getting into the car w/ him? In this case, she chooses to get into the car. Is the creep responsible for another person's choice to get in his car?

Thespark88
01-18-2015, 11:39 AM
That is an irrelevant comparison. Men are not animals and should not be given a pass by beings compared as one.

Aniela
01-18-2015, 12:10 PM
That is an irrelevant comparison. Men are not animals and should not be given a pass by beings compared as one.

While I see where she was going w/ that comparison, & sm what agree w/ it, I also agree here. Animals don't deserve such ferocious insult as being compared w/ human men :D

HoolaTwister
01-18-2015, 01:49 PM
Aniela said everything I'd want to say perfectly.

justsometwat
01-18-2015, 02:47 PM
I watched a model on MFC answer the door for the delivery guy. He was very clearly a pizza guy and it's not something she had done before. She was in very very very skimpy lingerie and bent over in front of him multiple times. She had her two kids living with her (both under 18 ) and they were asleep in the other room. All I could do is shake my head and think how stupid she was for not only putting her self at risk, but her kids as well.

Imagine the guy coming back, pushing his way in, raping her and one of the kids wakes up. He could have not only raped her, but murdered her and the kids. I know that seems a bit excessive, but when people are frightened or pumped full of adreneline they do things that seem pretty crazy. Jesus, if you're going to do something so stupid at least have a friend in the house with you. But you have to remember that now that delivery person knows your house, where it is, and probably a lot of the layout, making it easier to enter your apartment and hide.

audritwo
01-18-2015, 03:41 PM
Goodness ladies. Not all men are terrible people. Some of us married perfectly good gentlemen who understand the meaning of consent.

Yes, we should be cautious of certain situations. Yes, men should be taught not to rape. Yes, rape can happen everywhere.


At this point, I think people are just trying to fight. Can we agree that this girl SHOULDN'T of done what she did. And this doesn't give anyone a free pass to sexually assault. Rape is bad. End of story.

justsometwat
01-18-2015, 04:14 PM
I just wanted to say that if someone asks you if you live alone (ANYONE, male or female!) never say no. When the guy asked her if she was there alone she hesitated and said no that friends come over sometimes.

Doesn't matter where you are, if someone you don't know that's a stranger asks you that (and knows where you live) it's best to say you have roommate(s) or a significant other. Something, ANYTHING, but never say alone.

MissConceited
02-05-2015, 06:54 PM
Ok... this is weird. Someone from MFC...at least they said they were contacted me on skype last summer and wanted to pay me to do something like this. It seemed off to me, so I never looked into it. But they said they'd pay me $800 to do it. I thought it was a joke...

hyori
02-05-2015, 07:05 PM
For $800 i would have just gotten my husband to be the delivery guy. I'm a good actor and no one would know the difference. Oh but wait, it would go viral, my friends and family would see the video and my hubby would get dismissed from his job and we would be labelled pornstars forever. So, I change my mind. No, it is not worth the shit hitting the fan kind of fame.

TheBrownFox
02-05-2015, 08:47 PM
I just wanted to say that if someone asks you if you live alone (ANYONE, male or female!) never say no. When the guy asked her if she was there alone she hesitated and said no that friends come over sometimes.

Doesn't matter where you are, if someone you don't know that's a stranger asks you that (and knows where you live) it's best to say you have roommate(s) or a significant other. Something, ANYTHING, but never say alone.
I was just thinking about stuff like that the other night. It irritates me how men will ask women (who they've only known for 2 minutes) personal questions like that without even thinking twice. Sorry, but I'm NOT giving you all kinds of personal info about me to make it that much easier for you to stalk my ass. I do not easily hand out my phone number. People are so casual and lax about giving out their phone numbers/FB info. And don't ever give a guy your personal info just to "get him off your back" (I did that once a long time ago...not good), or because you're worried he'll think you're a bitch. Who cares? No one is entitled to your personal info.

justanothercamgirl
02-06-2015, 10:19 AM
I've pointed it out before and I'll point it out again. If people in this thread truly believe in risk migration and taking personal responsibility then it is pretty hypocritical to be a sex worker since it is common sense (and also statistics) that being a sex worker raises your risk of bad things happening to you.

SummerBlaze
02-10-2015, 09:14 AM
The worst thing could happen to her is to end up being fucked by that guy...
And no, I wouldn't blame that guy if he became being pervert .It would be all her fault because:
1. She knew pizza would arrive at some point (is not like she was being surprised)
2. Even you are surprised,when you hear the doorbell you put something on you
3.She was asking for it definately otherwise theese things wouldn't happen.

I applaud that guy for being so...patient.If I were a guy I would stick a finger straight in her pussy or the cock out of the pants when I hear she is home alone so she learn her lesson another time to let this instant exhibitionism for webcam only,k with the excuse "Oh I was so shocked to see u naked , I got nervous" lol....

I think the worst thing that could of happen is this guy raping her, torturing her and then murdering her.

I know one thing for sure from this post is Cutie101 is NEVER allowed in our all nude strip clubs here in Canada, should not be allowed in public gyms or saunas, and won't be invited to any all girls weekends were skinny dipping may come into play (it usually does)

laurielegs
02-10-2015, 06:20 PM
This whole thread has me thinking about our profession and what we do to get eyeballs in our cam room.

This sort of thing, whether staged or not, seems to me to make her appear desperate and that she'd do any type of stunt just to get viewers. Staged or not, wonder if it was worth being suspended. I'm thinking not worth losing several days or more of revenue. MFC doesn't allow males on cam.

If it wasn't staged, no legit cam site allows you to put unregistered non-consenting people on cam, and can you imagine if he were some sort of public figure or maybe an actor moonlighting delivering pizza between acting jobs. She could face a crapload of legal issues.


I wouldn't want to myself, staged or not, though public shows aren't my style or how I make my money. I'm just not good at the group show/tipping style MFC thing (though I admire those who are, wow, takes a lot of creativity).

Would any of you ladies do this type thing?

xxtinamariexx
02-10-2015, 06:57 PM
The worst thing could happen to her is to end up being fucked by that guy...
And no, I wouldn't blame that guy if he became being pervert .It would be all her fault because:
1. She knew pizza would arrive at some point (is not like she was being surprised)
2. Even you are surprised,when you hear the doorbell you put something on you
3.She was asking for it definately otherwise theese things wouldn't happen.



I applaud that guy for being so...patient.If I were a guy I would stick a finger straight in her pussy or the cock out of the pants when I hear she is home alone so she learn her lesson another time to let this instant exhibitionism for webcam only,k with the excuse "Oh I was so shocked to see u naked , I got nervous" lol....

I was raped at 16, and years later they guy said, I wanted it, I wore short shorts... so because I had short shorts on (which in that part of time, was the normal) I should have been raped? no she shouldnt have answered the door like that, but it doesn't give someone the right to raper her! I hope to god you dont ever have a girl!

Marina Starr
02-10-2015, 07:11 PM
I want to give you a big hug! Anyone who have chatted with you, myself included would have to agree that you are one of the sweetest person. I am so glad that what you've gone through didn't make you bitter. Violation of any kind can make a person extremely depressed and suicidal.

It doesn't matter how you dress. If men find you sexually appealing, the majority would assume that you are sexually promiscuous and therefore whatever they want to do to you sexually without your consent is somehow consensual.
SMH at some of the comments on here by girls doing sex work. I don't need to mention names. I keep telling myself that some people were just raised differently.

I was raped at 16, and years later they guy said, I wanted it, I wore short shorts... so because I had short shorts on (which in that part of time, was the normal) I should have been raped? no she shouldnt have answered the door like that, but it doesn't give someone the right to raper her! I hope to god you dont ever have a girl!

audritwo
07-06-2016, 01:41 PM
Bumping this old thread, cause this shit is still going on. I just watched this:
http://www.daporn.com/video/pizza-guy-goes-for-the-clit-171209.html?utm_source=tubes&utm_medium=plug&utm_campaign=efukt


What the fuck.

Ladies, please don't perform the answer the door naked for the pizza guy. Your safety isn't worth it.

miss.a.p1600
07-06-2016, 02:39 PM
Dumbasses.

That's like going going into a lion den with steaks and expecting not to get attacked.

When will people quit acting out dumb stuff they see on movies and tv?

Just dumb. They've obviously lost several brain cells.

They should get down on their knees and be thankful nothing bad happened.

PixiieGirl
07-06-2016, 02:52 PM
I don't know how they do it in Europe....? But here in the US.... ummmm FUCKING JAIL. Seriously? You cannot just RAPE a person because they were naked in front of you and hugged you!!! She clearly was saying NO to his advances.

Lets say I'm naked in front of my spouse, and I hug him, and he tries to have sex with me and I clearly say NO. Guess what? RAPE.

I'm just like, wow. Such a stupid thing she did, I hope that she can stay safe after that.

Also, I agree with Sunnylexie - what she did to that guy was completely wrong. But it still does not make it okay if something were to have happened to her.

I've not read the whole of this topic yet cause this little bit wound me up so much but yes 100% even here in europe it's RAPE, if she says no, REGARDLESS of previous actions, it's a no, and if he does it anyway thats RAPE
jesus

that being said I'm a big believer in ALL parties having consented to sexual situations, she was wrong for dragging him into her camming without consent, doesn't mean she deserves being assaulted or raped but yeah..

Cutie101
07-06-2016, 05:16 PM
In Europe is not that she "deserves" lol. Clearly here you get into jail if you rape/ assault someone. And the judges always support the woman in this case, no matter what.
But the public oppinion is still in a dissapoining high percentage, of those who believe the woman is guilty. Not the young generation tho, thanks God.
We are not savage, lol. We are just a post communism part of Europe, that is still waking up after all those decays of restrictions and obedience. Here, men are still misogyns (not all, but especially in the rural areas, the risk of a rape is higher) and people are still not used to all this "western" vibe of liberty. We need at least one or two generations from now, to be fully open minded everywhere.
In the cities areas, the mentality is clearly changed, but at the country side and areas with low level of education and exposure to the modern world, the situation is still sad.
But the mentality is different, as some old-fashion minded, or simply sick men consider that, if you are dressing way too sexy, you are asking for dick. Okay, there are sickos who will assault you, even you are dressed from head to toe, so being dressed sexy is not actually the only "bait" for those.
I know I said before about this and someone told me I am pro rape. Lmao this is stupid.
I am not pro-rape, Jesus Christ, I am a woman! I am pro protecting yourself, when you know you live in an area with high risk. Unfortunately,nobody can make justice for you, untill the evil happens, that's why I say, is good to protect ourselves and not risking and playing with our safety, just because we have rights. Sickos don't give a shit about our rights and won't be sorry for what they did. They will always believe that we "deserve".
Especially now, when Europe is full of immigrants who have lived in a world where a woman who is showing more than her face, is asking for cock no matter what and woman is at the level of a worm, comparing with men. Look at the higher and higher cases of sexual assault in Western Europe, a place that is considered being the most civilised and open minded.
Nobody can protect every woman, every second. We must learn to protect ourselves to avoid such situations.
For example, me, I won't go outside after a certain late hour, in high heels and super short and tight dress on me, all alone, in areas where I can meet different groups of men, who may be drunk or whatever. In my oppinion (and normal world oppinion), I have the right to not be touched, even if I walk naked on the street, but you can't take out the law book, in front of those guys who are ready to assault you and start reading your rights.
In my country, if I open the door while I am NAKED, to a guy, is like I throw myself in the lion's cage. He will believe I didn't take clothes on me, because I want to be fucked, otherwise I wouldn't open the door while naked.
Even when you go at a club and you dress sexy, you go with company, you don't go all alone especially if you are willing to drink and clearly you won't have enough capacity to control yourself and your own body anymore.
This girl was extremely lucky. EXTREMELY lucky.
There are still happening major assaults, lots of rape cases, yes, in 2016, everywhere in the world, even in the civilised areas. Wich means, this world is still insecured and out there, there are still animals who consider they can do whatever they want to us, just because we show more skin.
Protection/ prevention and security is the key. Nobody says to dress ourselves in nun outfits, we just don't push the limits in some situations, because the law can be applied ONLY after the evil has been done. And in that case, even the law won't heal our trauma. Is not worth risking. That's it.

xCamLovex
07-06-2016, 05:39 PM
Within 1 year of camming, I was being recognized in restaurants, my snapchat subscribers identified restaurants by glassware and napkins and could tell me my location. If you for a second think you'll slip through the cracks, don't be naive. Men who watch us study us, and whether or not they have bad intentions they are paying very close attention.

I do not go out by myself, or get left anywhere anymore. My neighbor has stalked me, forcing me into strict geoblocking

Do not take your privacy for granted. What we do is so alluring and mysterious that it's easy for people to become obsessed with us.

TheBrownFox
07-06-2016, 07:02 PM
Bumping this old thread, cause this shit is still going on. I just watched this:
http://www.daporn.com/video/pizza-guy-goes-for-the-clit-171209.html?utm_source=tubes&utm_medium=plug&utm_campaign=efukt


What the fuck.

Ladies, please don't perform the answer the door naked for the pizza guy. Your safety isn't worth it.

The beginning of this video confused the fuck outta me. Maybe it was partly because of the terrible lag of the video, but I'm confused. Was the guy pulling her hair or pulling her hair (while her friend is near the cam making a strange sound that I assume is laughter)? If this was staged, the acting was horrible. I said to myself...wtf did I just watch?

jasmine22
07-06-2016, 07:19 PM
I think some people were not taught common sense in life. And she picked the creepiest pizza man. @cutie101 i noticed that your from Europe and I know in some parts, if you invite a man into your home it's not really considered rape. We could go on all day about how it's wrong, but as women we need to protect ourselves seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if this man later stalked this girl or she went missing.

Cutie101
07-06-2016, 07:36 PM
I think some people were not taught common sense in life. And she picked the creepiest pizza man. @cutie101 i noticed that your from Europe and I know in some parts, if you invite a man into your home it's not really considered rape. We could go on all day about how it's wrong, but as women we need to protect ourselves seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if this man later stalked this girl or she went missing.
Well, I know that, for sure I did have guys who came in my house to install my AC, my internet, fix my TV cable and none of them tried to assault me or make sexual remarks :)))
But I didn't invited them in the house, being naked either :)))) OR dressed in idk what sexy lingerie, lol...
I was talking about that old fashioned state of mind, when men see a woman who is dressed sexy or is showing too much skin, usually.
Or you are talking about the case when you invite him in the house and he is assaulting you and then is not considered rape, because of that?
I didn't get it too well...

audritwo
07-06-2016, 10:19 PM
The beginning of this video confused the fuck outta me. Maybe it was partly because of the terrible lag of the video, but I'm confused. Was the guy pulling her hair or pulling her hair (while her friend is near the cam making a strange sound that I assume is laughter)? If this was staged, the acting was horrible. I said to myself...wtf did I just watch?

I think he pulled her by her arm.

Semyonovna
07-07-2016, 01:01 AM
I got that request few times to order pizza and open my door naked. I didn't know that's a "thing". -.- I was wondering who would be dumb enough to do that. Sometimes I don't beleive what turns that guys on! To be embaressed and exposed in your own home while they are watching, and that shit is dangerous, I don't beleive anyone. Girls living and moving around alone need to be aware there are bad people they might run into. I agree with cutie101 we need to know basic stuff about defending ourselves. I got attacked with knife last year by a guy who wanted me to get naked. I kicked his lame ass but I was scared so much. After situations like that your become aware that a lot of things can happen to a girl walking alone in the night time.

Miss-Trust
07-07-2016, 01:50 AM
The worst thing could happen to her is to end up being fucked by that guy...
And no, I wouldn't blame that guy if he became being pervert .It would be all her fault because:
1. She knew pizza would arrive at some point (is not like she was being surprised)
2. Even you are surprised,when you hear the doorbell you put something on you
3.She was asking for it definately otherwise theese things wouldn't happen.

I applaud that guy for being so...patient.If I were a guy I would stick a finger straight in her pussy or the cock out of the pants when I hear she is home alone so she learn her lesson another time to let this instant exhibitionism for webcam only,k with the excuse "Oh I was so shocked to see u naked , I got nervous" lol....

I tend to think that rape is wrong no matter what the circumstances are.

What she did was incredibly stupid though. Something really bad could have happened.

X

Sally Says
07-07-2016, 04:48 AM
now i have that horrible feeling the same as reading this the first time, women, do you really think a woman ever does anything to 'deserve' a violent crime? like really? wtf! you are naked on cam, does that mean your custie can come round and fuck you? NO IT DOESNT

Cutie101
07-07-2016, 05:09 AM
I did delete my first post about this, I guess I was way too ironic and too angry about what I saw and I probably have chosen the wrong words at that time, like "deserved" (pfff), so people really thought I was saying for real.
Next time I will be careful to not respond to posts when I am too tired or too angry at it.
However, I explained myself above. I am done with this subject.

miss.a.p1600
07-07-2016, 06:00 AM
now i have that horrible feeling the same as reading this the first time, women, do you really think a woman ever does anything to 'deserve' a violent crime? like really? wtf! you are naked on cam, does that mean your custie can come round and fuck you? NO IT DOESNT

No. No one deserves to be raped and no means no and a person should respect that. At the same time it's never a good idea, prank or not, to tease men in real life with your naked body especially when there's no intent to follow through. This is why strip clubs have security and a controlled environment. Men lose their damn minds too easy over a seeing a woman's naked body.

Only time I could see being naked to answer the door as okay is if you live in a nudist colony or something and nudity is not overtly sexual.

Kaya_x
07-07-2016, 07:28 AM
Awful situation no-one deserves, I see why she did it but risky to do things like that in today's world, not worth it!

xCamLovex
07-07-2016, 12:47 PM
As soon as models realize that nothing a customer suggests for money ever has any *real* good intentions behind it, the better models will be. Many customers of the cam world love the "she will do it for $$$" mentality. It is just as much of a rush as seeing you naked and masturbating. Customers rarely care (sorry to say) what happens to us, our safety, well being, they just care about seeing us do stuff for money.

Think about that the next time one of your paying customers asks you to do something out of character. WHY do they wanna see it? ...They wanna see you do it for some change. That's why.

I don't care if I'm on my last dime, making short term decisions for some gold or tokens might have lifelong consequences that my careless customer has no care in the world about. he will be in the next model's room spending on her in a heartbeat while you are in a bad situation.

It's not always about the money. Never about the popularity. And certainly never ever ever about what the "next model did". Yes a ton of girls for a while were meeting pizza guys in their underwear or naked but I guaranteed you some of them regretted the decision.

It's very confusing when I see cam models who post so much about themselves, their locations, and openly talk offline to randoms on twitter, but then will have the audacity to complain "i have so many creeps after me" or "i gave the UPS guy my # and now he won't stop harassing me!"

.........??????? .....?????

and


finally,

......???????

SylvySinclair
07-07-2016, 02:10 PM
first of all why were she naked for the pizza guy??? what a stupid cunt!!! if he did anything to her, how would she call him a creep if she attends to the guy all naked??? cummon, too stupid for my taste.

Mare
07-07-2016, 02:19 PM
Well. I'm on page 4 and ain't reading to the last page. My guess is the thread will be locked out soon.
As far as my stand on the rape thing. Yeah. I'm not with that. For any reason. Just no to rape.
But staged or not there are alot of women that want to make $$$ and will think it was real ( whether it was or not) and will do it too. I mean where does the quest for $$$ stop? When will the sites enforce the rules? When someone gets killed?

SimoneGray
07-07-2016, 02:34 PM
This whole thing just scared the fuck outta me. I just....like of all the amazing, innovative, cool things you can do on token sites, you choose the one thing that could literally get you killed/raped etc? I get the allure of the overnight fame that is associated with pulling stunts, but there are so many other things you can do to get attention, none of them particularly safety threatening...

pinklemonade0
07-08-2016, 02:09 AM
if I was a pizza delivery girl and I opened the door to a naked man I'd contact the police. It's indecent exposure (I think?), so maybe she should think about it that way. It's not fair to randomly expose yourself to people if it's not legal where you live - and this applies to all the videos naked in libraries, public swimming pools, hotel corridors, etc.

I'm glad nothing horrible happened to her and I hope that she was lucky that that guy was never going to do anything and wouldn't do anything in the future. No she wouldn't deserve to get raped, bottom line.

TheBrownFox
07-08-2016, 06:30 AM
if I was a pizza delivery girl and I opened the door to a naked man I'd contact the police. It's indecent exposure (I think?), so maybe she should think about it that way. It's not fair to randomly expose yourself to people if it's not legal where you live - and this applies to all the videos naked in libraries, public swimming pools, hotel corridors, etc.

I'm glad nothing horrible happened to her and I hope that she was lucky that that guy was never going to do anything and wouldn't do anything in the future. No she wouldn't deserve to get raped, bottom line.


I agree. When men get arrested for things that are considered "perverted," that reputation stays with them. Women don't wanna be near them, and definitely don't want their kids around them. I mean, can you imagine Halloween trick-or-treaters ringing a doorbell, and having a naked man answer the door talking about "Hey, kids!"

I am glad that nothing bad happens to these women who do these ridiculous shows, but I wish they would just STOP. This foolishness on MyFreeCams, etc. with models doing all this outrageous stuff just for the sake of keeping their rooms interesting and exciting...it's just too much. And so much for MFC's "no men allowed on cam" rule, huh? Fuck. You wanna keep things new and exciting? Change up your oufits...change up your room topics and raffles/contests. Don't do reckless things like answer the door naked for a stranger...just to give your viewers some giggles and entertainment. SMH. In that video, you even see a screenshot of a member telling her "I HOPE YOU DON'T DO THIS AGAIN!"

As for the topic of rape, it is a despicable act. Many of the people who do it get away with it, or get some bullshit slap on the wrist. Look at that Brock Turner scumbag. Can you imagine the insensitive, fucked-up comments people would make if, God forbid, a cam girl was raped? Having to deal with people saying shit like "Well she's a cam whore (that's what ppl call us) who answered the door naked...what did she expect?" SMH. That is some FUCKED-UP shit to say, but that is how some of these people think.

SylvySinclair
07-08-2016, 09:01 AM
i dont think anything can excuse a rape situation, but cummon, who attends the pizza guy or any other person, naked??? at least he thought: omg shes horny, let me grab my piece of luck today!

EdithOutlier
07-08-2016, 12:19 PM
Leaving aside the safety issue, I agree with the other posters who pointed out that involving other people in our shows without consent is wrong. What we do is sexual, and answering the door naked is certainly on that spectrum simply because society doesn't tend to categorise nudity as non-sexual by default.

Pink Lemonade pointed out how weird it would be if a naked man opened the door to a female delivery driver. This really isn't any different, and while some guys would be fine with it, or even try to push things further, I do know plenty of guys that would find it confronting and uncomfortable. That isn't ok.

jasmine22
07-08-2016, 08:06 PM
I'm sorry I meant if you were naked like that lol! plus I'm kind of bias bc my main experiences in Europe have been Italy . And the guys there are a bit different and more aggressive(more in the south). Like I've been pushed into bathrooms and almost raped by guys in Rome 3 times like if was a funny joke to them! . Shit like that makes me appreciate USA a lil more just on that level. But the guys I met in London and Germany....very polite. So I really should not have said Europe in a general sense.

DonaDiabla
07-08-2016, 08:23 PM
Actually, I had a roommate who would answer the door nude if we order food. Once she went topless when the cable guy was over. :( She endangered everyone's life by doing crap like this. One time, I was not there and she almost got assaulted by one of those delivery people. I hate to see cam models like this have such little value for their safety because they want extra money.

jasmine22
07-08-2016, 08:43 PM
It's also not a normal thing to do to a delivery person! If you worked for ups, and some man opened the door naked....you would call the police. You, and the police, would assume he is a sexual pervert who probably wanted to have sex with you. So...any man would assume the same thing if the female answered the door naked, whether he acted on it or not. Also...how does myfreecams allow random people to appear on cam without documentation?? Without their consent at all, I guarantee he would have been pissed if he knew he was on cam.

TheBrownFox
07-08-2016, 09:29 PM
Also...how does myfreecams allow random people to appear on cam without documentation??

That's what kills me about this whole thing (in addition to the fact that it's just reckless and stupid). A few years ago a model on AC Forum told us that she got in trouble with MFC, because her husband called out to her (from a different room, I think) "What do you want from McDonald's?" She got in trouble just for that.

Maybe MFC's Wiki page needs to have a bolded message (next to the 'no men on cam' rule) pointing out that this includes "answering the door while broadcasting, showing an undocumented person on cam."

Lots of craziness on MFC, including this chick doing the 'female cop beating a Black person for tips' cam show, or cam shows that involve mocking a fellow MFC model. I'll stop right there, because I don't want to threadjack with my rants on that.

Back to talking about the pizza delivery shows...

pinklemonade0
07-09-2016, 02:09 AM
^ I was really upset to see the one mocking another model (I will not watch the perpetrator in question any more after recent events). It was bullying and I just don't know how anyone could view that and think it was OK. I was also sad to see top models congratulating the perpetrator on her show (that was vile) - I will not be watching them any more either. I actually have a Premium account on there I use to tip people but... not any people associated with any of that any more, that's for sure.