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dely
04-24-2016, 08:35 AM
So there's this girl at my club, who is always making 3x the amount that everyone else is making. If everyone else made $400, she made $1200. Consistently. From talking to other girls at the club, it seems like she's just an extremely good hustler. She's much more aggressive than most of the girls and really pushes the VIP.

I really want to try being more like this because it seems to work. How does someone with a sort of nice girl/college student image hustle this way?

It helps to disappear for a while, like a month or two, and try a new club. Then go back and you are a changed woman ;) or just start w little steps. Work for a week straight and do something different every day.

miss_rachel
05-16-2016, 02:43 AM
haha so funny, i have this is my club too. and she doesn't say or do anything special. she looks hot but trashy at the same time. she is really funny and witty and has an answer for everything. she walks upto guys says something in their ear for about 15 seconds and they go for a dance with her. she is also good in groups of men on her own. she can walk unto a group of 5 guys and take them all for a dance together. she is really out there and she is loud and she stands out. she has a lot of attitude. but she is also amazing at getting guys to book her for hours on end. and i have overheard her talk to guys and she is very demanding like "we are going to VIP" (without saying anything else) and they will go with her. other times I've heard her get angry at customers and they still go with her. also I've heard her say " you taking me for a fucking dance" its amazing really, if i did that i would probably have complaints about me but for some reason she gets away with it.
so basically my conclusion to how these girls do it is obviously being very confident and not just pretending to be,(i think) they actually believe they are the hottest one in the room. and being funny and witty with the best come backs is so important. they expect to get booked all night and won't settle for less. the guys are pretty much in a dream when she is taking control.

crystalize
05-18-2016, 08:08 PM
you are so right miss_rachel! It's usually the very confident ones and the ones with the witty mouth. I am in that zone sometimes (working on making it permanent) and that's always when I bank.

When you are really bossy though, it can turn some off. Down here, with all the latin men, this can backfire if done with the wrong guy. You need to have a feel for who will do whatever you tell them to do, and for whom this would be a turn off.

SylvySinclair
05-18-2016, 08:22 PM
lol, i always asked myself how those ugly women would make more money than others so classy and sexy. when i was an escort, i used to go to a club very fancy here i sp, the classiest, very nice place.....so all girls stay like around the tables where the clients sit for dinner and drinks....so this one girl, wearing a super mini dress, no class, bad shoes etc....she got to get the best guys and more than 3 times a night, while one beautiful i was frinds with, had when the most, one guy per night. Since i was just like her, always in nice clothes and etc, was also going only out once per night. I always figured and had the answer from a client: when we look at her, he wanna fuck, when we see u, we wanna date....problem is that i only wanna fuck, and by her looks, i know she will be doing everything i want, because shes a whore, while u, are a classy woman. sorry, but im already married. hahahaha

Aurora_Sunset
05-19-2016, 06:58 AM
when we look at her, he wanna fuck, when we see u, we wanna date....problem is that i only wanna fuck, and by her looks, i know she will be doing everything i want, because shes a whore, while u, are a classy woman.

That's a VERY interesting point that seems "obvious" when it's said out loud, but I just never would have come up with on my own. Men are notorious for their madonna/whore complexes - it would make sense that a "trashier" looking girl would inspire carnal feelings, while a more put-together woman crosses the line into making them think of you as "dating material," thus killing the type of vibe we're specifically trying to create to get money.

Definitely something to think about... Thank you for sharing this insight!

SylvySinclair
05-19-2016, 07:27 AM
that is so true that i never made a bank while escorting, when i made money was on the guys who wanted to date me and so they were investing on taking me out to make me change my mind and date them.; at some point that happened coz my hubby is my former client....lol
it makes a lot of sense when u figure that guys only want a good fuck and not to talk....lol
here in sp there is this big avenue, where a lot of Tgirls and women stay in the corner to get clients, u cant imagine the number of fancy cars who stop by them. Most with family and kids, great job......and what are they looking for? trashy, adventurous situations, dangerous also, and lots of dirty sex.....period, thats it, guys look for dirty sex.

rareaspasia
05-19-2016, 02:21 PM
I wish I knew how to look trashy. My club staff has told me that I look classy even when I roll in with no makeup in slobby sweat pants and a wifebeater. Any ideas? LOL

SylvySinclair
05-19-2016, 03:35 PM
let me grab a pic of a whore in brasil, maybe that can help u out...lol
https://www.google.com.br/search?q=putas+de+rua+como+elas+se+vestem&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=699&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0stODmefMAhUGIpAKHURsA1QQ_AUIBygC#imgr c=XvkhJtINCEKkkM%3A

take a look and see if u relate to what im trying to show u.

Layla.00
05-20-2016, 06:03 AM
I wish I knew how to look trashy. My club staff has told me that I look classy even when I roll in with no makeup in slobby sweat pants and a wifebeater. Any ideas? LOL

Chewing gum, acting drunk when you're not, fish nets, neon colours .. I like the trashy look and it seems to work for me. I kind of do the college girl on spring break look lol.

The first time I had to work in an upscale gown club I was totally out of my element lol.

MissAdriana
05-20-2016, 10:51 AM
The club I used to dance at was like this, except all the other dancers were trashy loud mouthed and I was the only like dressed up professional looking one. It stood out but not in a good way. I think being brash really worked there, they werent very pretty, and all overweight, but yet I think the guys found them more attainable if that makes sense

crystalize
05-21-2016, 04:08 PM
and here i've been trying to make myself look more upscale this whole time! what I can say is slutty ratchet drunk works very well in dives with lots of people.

Layla.00
05-21-2016, 10:26 PM
and here i've been trying to make myself look more upscale this whole time! what I can say is slutty ratchet drunk works very well in dives with lots of people.

I find it works well in a lot of environments .. Guys who want to "help get you out of the industry", guys who want to feel like their fancy and smart, guys who are "slumming it for the night", guys who want to party, guys who have a nice classy wife at home and want something out of the ordinary...

Lucida
02-21-2017, 10:40 PM
What you perceive as beautiful and what other men perceive as beautiful might be very different.

E.g. I was in Eurasia. So, we're watching a local show. I see this heavily blonde woman. I say: wow she's pretty. He says no she's ugly. Then he tells me the dark-haired typically "Caucasian" looking woman (think Kardashian) with the big nose and thick eye brows was very beautiful. And this was the general view across the board. Luckily he said I was also perceived as beautiful. Which was true because I was very attractive to people and not just because they'd never seen a black person before. I was highly attractive even without makeup.

The thing maybe people see you as an ugly girl with lots of makeup. Maybe you are deluding yourself thinking that you're that hot.

Go and work somewhere where people find you hot. If people aren't giving you compliments or men aren't trying to fill you, then you ain't that hot.

The people who think blonde is beautiful are a small fraction. That's why most people in the world are dark-haired as of sexual selection.

Most blondes don't get married. Men view them as dumb and easy. So, they're usually just good for a quick fuck. When we want to dumb ourselves down in order to make money off such assholes we tend to go blonde if we can. And wearing too much makeup really makes you look dumb. The more educated a woman is, the less makeup she tends to wear. If a man thinks you're too dumb, he won't take you seriously as a business woman who is at the club to make money. Men give their money to women who show a desire to succeed in this business. Anyone can wear makeup, look at the drag queens and Instagram sensations. Men don't go to strip clubs to see how well you wear makeup or how much fake hair you can pile on.

Start making yourself look more intelligent. The I'm too good for you - you can't get a girl like me approach doesn't work. Women play games outside the club all the time. Men aren't at strip clubs to play games. They are there because they feel that they can buy your affection and attraction to them.

But my go-to is being dumb. Because with long hours and all the stress I eventually lose my memory ability and feel dumb. It's not easy competing at an intellectual level especially with other girls' lying about their degrees and business achievements. So I do the dumb thing. But it didn't get me far. But don't be clever and call your customers out for telling you bullshit. In a strip club a man is allowed to lie about how rich he is. So I like to nod my head yes yes yes and be all excited about his achievements. And he'd feel so good that that someone in this whole world thinks that he is so wonderful and powerful.

Gia2608
02-21-2017, 11:09 PM
^^^Um... I only know one blonde who is not nor has ever been married and it is not because Men perceive her as umb; trust me. I don't know where you got that idea.

BarbieNYC
02-22-2017, 12:06 AM
Eh some days I feel I have it figured out some days I don't.

A lot of factors go into it but at the end of the day all you can do is focus on your hustle

There's some awesome tips and insight in this thread though

SnuffleUffleGrass
02-22-2017, 12:56 PM
Ok my non-politically correct opinions on this.

1) In the words of this rich oil field guy I knew- he bought a VIP with a girl just because her "game" was so "unbelievable." She might have been offering something illegal or immoral but it got his credit card out & his ass into the VIP booth. The girl wasn't tops in the looks department but she was a hard worker/hustler. Maybe she was offering grind dances or drugs. It's still a mystery to me. So- Offering something unique that no one else is.

2) Being his type- some men who are "socially retarded" (for lack of a better term) can be hypnotized into giving a lot of money to an attractive woman if she fits his "type" that he likes. (Being good at reading the body language signs of attraction will help you zero in on this customer.)

3) Honestly extras. This varies from club to club. What is forbidden in one place can be common in another. In my experience customers will come out and ask for these things, they don't beat around the bush. So it's easy to decline & avoid drama if you wish to avoid this sort of customer.

roserose
03-05-2017, 02:26 PM
I'm not slut shaming anyone. I don't like extras. I don't like blatant SEX going on in the lap dance room. It is illegal in all of the 50 states. Sex in exchange for money is prostitution. I don't think it belongs in a strip club. It belongs in a brothel or escort service. I'd even settle for it being at a massage parlor. I don't come to work to see guys dicks getting sucked or sit in globs of cum in a dark room. I know "extras" are the norm, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. I draw the line at tit groping. You might draw the line at getting finger banged. Fine. To each their own. But don't fuck and suck in my club or I will call you a whore. Start an escort service or work at a massage parlor. Dick sucking does NOT belong in the club.

TiffTiff, I am not a fan of extras girls. I think it's bad business and brings down the earning potential of the whole club. However, people are not taking issue with your stance on extras -- we are taking issue with your use of a slur to describe your colleagues ("whore" is a slur for full service sex workers, and it is often applied by civilians to all of us sex workers of every stripe). Not only is it in ignorant taste, but when you use that word you are simultaneously putting down FSSW who have nothing to do with your club. Your boundaries are fine, it's your attitude that reeks.

LoveyDovey
03-05-2017, 03:07 PM
+1 on not liking extras girls. One not-really-attractive girl at work kept getting dances. I thought she just had a good hustle, but no. Found out she was tonguing customers' ears, telling them she gives a great blow job. Sigh.

One of my high-end customers complained to me about said girl. So to all the "ladies" offering extras, just know that it not only kills business, but it's also a TURNOFF for HIGH END SPENDERS who are not JOHNS. They are high class men who are disgusted by this kind of behavior. Just sayin'.

We had a rabbit like you
03-07-2017, 09:41 AM
They're super aggressive, pushy, persistent , and pardon my French but they get guys dicks hard and get them to think with their little head. They aren't lazy. They have experience usually. I've worked with many of these girls, there's one in every club.
The stereotypical "super hot" dancer thinks she's so great all she's gotta do is sit there and radiate her otherworldly beauty and men will fall at her feet in ecstasy and she completely underestimates the overweight dancer hustling her ass off, or the older stripper always in VIP despite not being 18.
which is why I don't believe stripping has a lot to do with looks or age anymor, at all. Yes of course it helps to look as sexually attractive as you can but this isn't lingerie modeling, it's selling to men

gelsey
03-07-2017, 10:08 AM
Ok my non-politically correct opinions on this.

1) In the words of this rich oil field guy I knew- he bought a VIP with a girl just because her "game" was so "unbelievable." She might have been offering something illegal or immoral but it got his credit card out & his ass into the VIP booth. The girl wasn't tops in the looks department but she was a hard worker/hustler. Maybe she was offering grind dances or drugs. It's still a mystery to me. So- Offering something unique that no one else is.

2) Being his type- some men who are "socially retarded" (for lack of a better term) can be hypnotized into giving a lot of money to an attractive woman if she fits his "type" that he likes. (Being good at reading the body language signs of attraction will help you zero in on this customer.)

3) Honestly extras. This varies from club to club. What is forbidden in one place can be common in another. In my experience customers will come out and ask for these things, they don't beat around the bush. So it's easy to decline & avoid drama if you wish to avoid this sort of customer.

This! ^^
Boils down to two types of men, type buyers and service buyers....service can be extras or just extra attention.

Type buyers you cannot change; a guy friend came to the club and wouldn't get a dance from a 10 because she has implants and was black, got a dance from a 5 because she had huge natural breasts. He openly said the 10 was a much cooler girl, but just not attractive (to him) and the dance from the 5 sucked.....

Lesson is be you, read your customers and upsell where you can. You have zero control of the type you are (can't pop implants in and out between customers) and you can't push your boundaries to make money, a sad stripper is a broke stripper