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Aurora14
02-16-2015, 10:53 AM
One of my friends (at the club) came outside the other night bitching at her bf (he comes in as a customer)

Her "I can't believe you brought me to that bullshit movie."
Him "But baby, It was hot. I thought it could give us ideas for later! (It was V day)
Her "Lets get one thing straight. That movie was abuse. Would I let you tie me up and fuck me all night? Yes. But you treat me the way that guy treated that girl, you'll make friends with you hand real quick cuz I'll be gone"

I high fived her and went inside.

AriesDanceFlame7
02-16-2015, 06:57 PM
Thing is, FSOG is just a fictional book and movie. I don't take it too seriously because as an adult, I can recognize abuse and all that (I'm a Psych major for fuck's sake lol). But there are many fucked up books that exist and fucked up movies that exist as well. I don't think this foolish and fictional book is enough to brainwash women into accepting abuse. I mean, if you're susceptible to having your mindset changed into thinking abuse is positive, then you're just not old enough or mature enough to see it, hence the rating. I don't think it warrants such a huge amount of hate since it's a fictional work. Even if it were nonfiction, then it would just be the telling of someone's story. I know the abusive behavior absolutely and tragically applies to many women's lives but at the same time, no one is forcing anyone to view the movie. There are movie subjects i avoid specifically because of things I've been through but I don't boycott them. Movies should not be enough to change someone's mindset and create the standards of what is and isn't normal, you know?

I take it for what it is: A fictional book that has now been turned into a fictional movie. Just like many disturbing psychological thrillers and horror movies.

AriesDanceFlame7
02-16-2015, 06:58 PM
Thing is, FSOG is just a fictional book and movie. I don't take it too seriously because as an adult, I can recognize abuse and all that (I'm a Psych major for fuck's sake lol). But there are many fucked up books that exist and fucked up movies that exist as well. I don't think this foolish and fictional book is enough to brainwash women into accepting abuse. I mean, if you're susceptible to having your mindset changed into thinking abuse is positive, then you're just not old enough or mature enough to see it, hence the rating. I don't think it warrants such a huge amount of hate since it's a fictional work. Even if it were nonfiction, then it would just be the telling of someone's story. I know the abusive behavior absolutely and tragically applies to many women's lives but at the same time, no one is forcing anyone to view the movie. There are movie subjects i avoid specifically because of things I've been through but I don't boycott them. Movies should not be enough to change someone's mindset and create the standards of what is and isn't normal, you know?

I take it for what it is: A fictional book that has now been turned into a fictional movie. Just like many disturbing psychological thrillers and horror movies.

lynn2009
02-16-2015, 07:18 PM
I don't think this foolish and fictional book is enough to brainwash women into accepting abuse. I mean, if you're susceptible to having your mindset changed into thinking abuse is positive, then you're just not old enough or mature enough to see it, hence the rating.

Well there was Charlie's post earlier about a friend who read the books then thought being completely subservient to her boyfriend would fix their relationship issues. And this weekend my current partner told me about an ex who read the books then went out and let a guy beat the shit out of her - he knew because the guy had her go home and send him pictures of her black and blue ass (I literally cringe just writing this) and she still had the pictures. I mean obviously these are adult women and who knows...but I think there is something to be said that a fictional sexual relationship is still more "real" to the audience than your garden variety horror movie, and thus leaves women more susceptible to a 'new normal'.

Aurora_Sunset
02-16-2015, 07:20 PM
If I hear one more reference to this piece of shit book/movie again, I'm gonna scream. I had some dumbass customer last night ask me, "You're into the 50 shades of grey" thing, aren't you?

I was like, "Whhhaaattt? HELL NO! I hate that stupid shit! Don't say that to me again!"


BAH! YES! I had an escort client a few days ago stop and ask, "So, are you into that 50 Shades of Grey stuff?" I have a feeling that won't be the last time I hear that before this fad dies down...

Murder and blatant violence like in horror/violent movies is obviously wrong in society - sex, relationships, and even BDSM-type relationships are not inherently flat-out "wrong." They're actually a part of everyday life, and thus different themes and ideas regarding them are fuzzier to navigate into "fact vs. fantasy" - there are more "shades of grey" at play, as it were.... har har har...

I think the demographic on SW is very well versed in all things regarding sexuality and thus is better primed to look at the books and movies as trivial fluff, but I don't think it's ridiculous to think that there are perfectly sane people out there who will, unfortunately, take it more seriously. And that can have real and serious consequences.

lynn2009
02-16-2015, 07:39 PM
Not a great article but also

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/02/10/sex-toy-injuries-surged-after-fifty-shades-of-grey-was-published/

lovelydancer
02-16-2015, 07:41 PM
I had a past customer purchase me the box set of FSOG as a gift (he knew I liked reading, but besides books I specifically asked for he had no clue what to buy me...this purchase was one of those instances).

I ended up reading them, and thought they were awful. Poorly written, terrible plot, both main characters annoyed the shit out of me, and the "sex" scenes weren't sexy at all but downright abusive. I turned around and sold the set for $20, and told him unless I say which books to purchase to not go out on a limb like that again.

This books makes me sad for future generations. This is the kind of standard we are setting for women and relationships (let alone literature)???? That's 'Murica for you... :(

ScarletKitten
02-17-2015, 12:27 AM
I look at FSOG the same way I look at certain religious texts: offensive, disgusting propaganda that I can only scold and laugh at. I'd love to set up a bonfire and throw hundreds of copies of FSOG, the Quran, Twilight, and other such books, into the fire. Get the fire going good, dance around it while tripping on shrooms....

Edit: Please note that this comment was only a joke. I wouldn't actually burn hundreds of books like that, unless I was freezing to death and needed to stay warm. :)

Trem
02-17-2015, 10:12 AM
I had a past customer purchase me the box set of FSOG as a gift (he knew I liked reading, but besides books I specifically asked for he had no clue what to buy me...this purchase was one of those instances).

I ended up reading them, and thought they were awful. Poorly written, terrible plot, both main characters annoyed the shit out of me, and the "sex" scenes weren't sexy at all but downright abusive. I turned around and sold the set for $20, and told him unless I say which books to purchase to not go out on a limb like that again.

This books makes me sad for future generations. This is the kind of standard we are setting for women and relationships (let alone literature)???? That's 'Murica for you... :(

Well it is fan fiction about another extremely shitty set of books, so it never really had a chance.

Kellydancer
02-17-2015, 02:42 PM
I had a past customer purchase me the box set of FSOG as a gift (he knew I liked reading, but besides books I specifically asked for he had no clue what to buy me...this purchase was one of those instances).

I ended up reading them, and thought they were awful. Poorly written, terrible plot, both main characters annoyed the shit out of me, and the "sex" scenes weren't sexy at all but downright abusive. I turned around and sold the set for $20, and told him unless I say which books to purchase to not go out on a limb like that again.

This books makes me sad for future generations. This is the kind of standard we are setting for women and relationships (let alone literature)???? That's 'Murica for you... :(

Reminds me of the movie Idiocracy (if you ever get s chance watch it if you haven't). Anyway in the movie people are watching a !movie called Ass where one is the entire movie. That is where we are heading.

SweetJulia
02-17-2015, 02:45 PM
as an asexual who has almost 0 representation in the media,
There's an asexual female paramedic on Sirens who's dating one of the new guys on the squad. Other than that, you're right.

SweetJulia
02-17-2015, 02:47 PM
^Does tipsy Charlie make any sense? Someone kiss meh! :-*

Mwah! I love drunk posts!

ScarletKitten
02-17-2015, 05:35 PM
OOPS, I think my comment about burning the books created some waves. Already getting hate mail. Sorry folks. Don't take my comments seriously in this thread. I was only venting.

And besides, I am INSANE! Like, for real, I'm as nutty as they come. I should be in a mad house! :D }:D

Kellydancer, that movie Idiocracy is hilarious! So true what you said!!!

Unkle Fuzzy
02-17-2015, 05:55 PM
Not to worry, I've burned a couple of bibles myself. Not because of the content, which is a decent story, and an excellent guide when you are looking for guidance, but because of how it is often interpreted and used as a means to an end.

Kellydancer
02-17-2015, 07:59 PM
Yeah it is a fantastic movie and we can see already so much is coming true.

BTW I just got a new tablet so it explains why some words are off.

Unkle Fuzzy
02-17-2015, 08:30 PM
Ain't spell Czech wonderful?

TransdimensionalPrincess
02-19-2015, 04:04 AM
http://jezebel.com/all-hell-breaks-loose-when-teens-are-denied-entry-to-fi-1686438689

MissJu
02-19-2015, 06:50 AM
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I would watch this kind of 50 shades of grey...i wanna see patrick take off square pants and uh la la::)...

audritwo
02-19-2015, 04:31 PM
I think I'd only watch FSOG if it starred Steve Buscemi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnGX4FuIK60

That goes with the audio books read by Gilbert Gottfried

https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=XkLqAlIETkA

charlie61
02-19-2015, 04:42 PM
I think if FSOG were about a lesbian relationship, I'd be more interested... It'd be a completely different dynamic.

ScarletKitten
02-19-2015, 09:16 PM
I think I'd only watch FSOG if it starred Steve Buscemi.

hahahaha - that made my day! I'd totally watch it if he starred in it! Of course I'd watch anything if Steve Buscemi is in it. My favorite role of his is "Ghost World". He is so adorable in that movie! lol

MissAdriana
02-26-2015, 08:15 PM
This thread is great! and very eyeopening! Thanks ladies! I saw the movie because I wanted to - though I couldn't even read through 2 chapters of the horribly written books. I enjoy certain aspects of BDSM but after seeing this movie I was just like "woah...really?"

Did it piss anyone else off how she bit her lip 1000 times and when she wasn't biting it she was licking it? Also it pissed me off she was a virgin, but I can get past that

What I didn't like was the "GREY" logo. Specifically on the side of the helicopter, the font looked like it said OBEY. Enough with the subliminals already
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I cant see Dominants liking this movie because it makes them seem like fucked up abusers. Actually their whole relationship seemed fucked up to me. She knew the safewords and never used them despite being in pain and he showed NO care for her at all... to me a true dominant *cares* they just want to exercise control. And would never BEAT their sub to tears. This was so sadistic and more masochistic than I expected. On the flipside I thought 6 hits with the belt was a little... weak? Don't ask me though I enjoy some physical pain LOL, I wouldn't have been balling like her.

There is a huge lack of any love in the movie. Their relationship is so strictly business it's sad and totally unromantic. And the way christian stares at her without blinking! I swear I could count the amount of times he blinked on 1 hand lol
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ScarletKitten
02-27-2015, 12:41 AM
I'm starting to think that there is some kind of agenda being pushed here. Like that song "S&M" by Rihanna. Ever listen to the lyrics? It's really fucked up. Not to mention that Rihanna didn't even write that song, the industry forced her to sing & record it. And hearing her sing the words, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me" - that just makes me sick to my stomach considering that her ancestors were very likely being whipped and chained during slavery.

It all just makes me want to recoil in horror at the thought of BDSM. I used to be into it.

HaydenBlue
02-27-2015, 01:39 AM
I'm starting to think that there is some kind of agenda being pushed here. Like that song "S&M" by Rihanna. Ever listen to the lyrics? It's really fucked up. Not to mention that Rihanna didn't even write that song, the industry forced her to sing & record it. And hearing her sing the words, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me" - that just makes me sick to my stomach considering that her ancestors were very likely being whipped and chained during slavery.

It all just makes me want to recoil in horror at the thought of BDSM. I used to be into it.

Um, you do know that there are black people who are into BDSM. People of all races are into the lifestyle.

The sole difference between slavery back then and BDSM is CONSENT. Consent. Consent. Consent.

Back then yes they whipped, chained, forced to serve but it was done 100% against their will.

Today you can choose if you want to get into an S&M lifestyle, no one's going to randomly grab you by the hair and drag you into basement and chain you to a wall. We have laws about that.

In BDSM - Both parties agree to it, both enjoy it. There are safewords ('red') to stop if play is getting too intense. And if you don't want to do it anymore you can say, "See ya!" and walk out the door. Because it's just play.

It may not be your cup o' tea but I fail to see what is so horrific about it.

BDSM and black slavery are 2 very separate things.

As for being forced to sing the song, who knows...but Rhianna has stated in her Rolling Stone interview that she's into kink in her personal life and she loves being submissive: http://www.celebitchy.com/148237/rihanna_i_like_to_be_spanked_being_tied_up_is_fun/

MissAdriana
02-27-2015, 02:08 AM
I ended up reading them, and thought they were awful. Poorly written, terrible plot, both main characters annoyed the shit out of me, and the "sex" scenes weren't sexy at all but downright abusive.(

Yes!! I wish I had read it all before seeing the movie as I may not have been so keen to see it. I wanted to see something new and sexy and romantic but instead I watched a woman sign up to be abused (literally) I was hoping for more intense sex scenes/romance not creepy stares and violence. In the beginning he has ana sign a contract saying she can't talk about their relationship... what if he decided to get so violent her life was threatened? I'm sure that contract would not allow her to be calling the police for help if 'the dominant' did not wish her to do so!
Everyone I've spoken to about this movie said it wasn't raunchy enough for them. There technically isn't all full frontal nudity. During every sex scene there were people giggling like kids. Obviously the world isn't ready for that yet. We see anas nipples 100 times but christians butt only... twice? It felt like it wasn't made for couples for that reason alone

ScarletKitten
02-27-2015, 04:37 AM
Um, you do know that there are black people who are into BDSM. People of all races are into the lifestyle.

The sole difference between slavery back then and BDSM is CONSENT. Consent. Consent. Consent.

Back then yes they whipped, chained, forced to serve but it was done 100% against their will.

Today you can choose if you want to get into an S&M lifestyle, no one's going to randomly grab you by the hair and drag you into basement and chain you to a wall. We have laws about that.

In BDSM - Both parties agree to it, both enjoy it. There are safewords ('red') to stop if play is getting too intense. And if you don't want to do it anymore you can say, "See ya!" and walk out the door. Because it's just play.

It may not be your cup o' tea but I fail to see what is so horrific about it.

BDSM and black slavery are 2 very separate things.

As for being forced to sing the song, who knows...but Rhianna has stated in her Rolling Stone interview that she's into kink in her personal life and she loves being submissive: http://www.celebitchy.com/148237/rihanna_i_like_to_be_spanked_being_tied_up_is_fun/

Yes, I know the difference b/w slavery and BDSM. That is a no-brainer. I was talking about the obvious agenda in pop culture.

I've read way too many Illuminati conspiracy theories. By the way, I'm submissive in bed too. Nothing wrong with that.

If Rihanna is into the BDSM lifestyle, great. Awesome. But I've seen her perform that song live, and she obviously does not enjoy singing that song. It's just obvious to me. Also, watch the music video. You will see tons of "Illuminati sex puppet" references everywhere. /end thread jack

michele11
02-27-2015, 08:32 AM
^ Don't get me started about movie stars and the illuminati. Kanye and Kim k all I'm going to say.

audrey_k
02-27-2015, 09:12 AM
What do you expect from a 'novel' that started off as Twilight fan fiction?

The difference to me is that this is mass-marketed book/film that is being pushed on young children and teens, and nowhere is there ANY awareness that what is being shown is an abusive relationship. If the writer acknowledge how unhealthy the relationship was that would be different. If you want to make rape porn or whatever, fine, go ahead. But don't show it to 13 year olds and tell them that's how everyone has sex.

~*SwanPrincess*~
02-28-2015, 04:57 AM
I watched this movie last night ONLY to see what all the hype was about. To me, if felt like a twisted Lifetime movie. Horrible acting, annoying characters, and the premise of the movie is sooooo fucked up.
It disturbed me how Ana is portrayed to be somewhat childish and innocent, and then ends up getting involved with a violent, arrogant abuser. That's not "sexy", having to sign a contract and basically be a sex slave. It's sad.
I don't see how anyone could even call this movie "sexy" or "romantic". As we all know, this movie is not like genuine BDSM either. This movie is just glamorized abuse.

Naida
03-01-2015, 10:52 AM
It disturbed me how Ana is portrayed to be somewhat childish and innocent, and then ends up getting involved with a violent, arrogant abuser.

What disturbs me is that it wasn't some weird film interpretation. She is an incredibly childish character, period.

Someone mentioned before that they couldn't see a real Dom beating a sub to tears. I have been beaten to tears on a handful of occasions BUT it was done by Doms I trusted who made sure I was okay to continue. NOT by some abusive asshat that didn't give a shit about my wellbeing.

SweetJulia
03-01-2015, 11:50 AM
What disturbs me is that it wasn't some weird film interpretation. She is an incredibly childish character, period.

Someone mentioned before that they couldn't see a real Dom beating a sub to tears. I have been beaten to tears on a handful of occasions BUT it was done by Doms I trusted who made sure I was okay to continue. NOT by some abusive asshat that didn't give a shit about my wellbeing.

^That. I'm not submissive at all, I'm just a fun, little masochist. So, I get along well with sadists. I have yet to find one not overly cautious and very attentive to how I feel, if I want to stop, etc.. The really crazy/stupid ones have too hard a time acting normal and usually let a bit of crazy slip out, causing me to cancel the meeting. Anyway, I have plans later, but I'm gonna download the movie in the wee hours of the morning. Don't worry, I'm not expecting much lol.

SexyLittleThing
03-01-2015, 12:03 PM
I've never read the book, but I watched the movie (I just had to). It was a two hour of me asking myself: "wtf am I watching?"

On the contrary to popular belief - I didn't feel that the movie portrayed Anna as a victim, at all. And she didn't act like one. She tried whatever he wanted her to try, but in the end (spoiler alert!) - she left him. I think Christian Grey is pretty unstable in his own head and he doesn't know what he really wants. I don't see him as an abuser and I don't see Anna as the one being abused. Again - the movie has nothing to do with BDSM or BDSM relationship. I just think Christian is stuck to Anna, because she's a pretty normal, down to earth girl and he wants her to fix him (all the things happened to him in the past and all that).

Still, I didn't like the movie and I almost fell asleep while watching it. It was really boring, too much "wtf" moments in my head and a total waste of time. Nothing erotic, sexy or appealing in this movie. Just a love story between a "poor" girl and a fucked up rich men. That's all.

ScarletKitten
03-01-2015, 12:08 PM
I don't understand why people are wasting their time watching this crap. Everyone says is sucks, yet people are still flocking to it. I think I'd rather watch flies fuck. Time is valuable people, don't waste it on this dog shit!

invibe
03-15-2015, 11:15 PM
Fantasy vs. Reality

A lot of guys like action movies with flipping cars and stuff exploding for no reason, and AK-47s. Everyone must use the worst battle rifle ever made, cause it looks cool.

There have to be a ton of similar trash novels but everybody knows about this one because.... women have brought it up enough for everyone to wonder what the hell they keep blathering on about. Know where I first heard about it? About a dozen dating profiles that made some kind of reference to it, between casual mentions and basically asking to act it out.

I don't consider that to be a big deal in itself, and mentioning stuff like that is usually a red flag for me anyway. I know women fantasize, and some fantasize about some crazy shit (to me). I'm just experienced enough to know the bullshitters from the freaks, and super rough sex with choking and punching and all that doesn't appeal to me in any way.
So why are so many women talking about it? One guess is it just something to talk about and juicy/freaky enough to keep coming up.

Something like this makes guys feel like they have been given the cheat codes to being a rock star sex god. Combine pop culture hype that could be seen as mass approval and a request for rough domineering sex and the appeal that trade secrets have to males in general... There could have been a healthier sex craze to go viral basically. Using viral and sex craze in the same sentence is really odd looking.

Naida
03-18-2015, 07:17 AM
On the contrary to popular belief - I didn't feel that the movie portrayed Anna as a victim, at all. And she didn't act like one. She tried whatever he wanted her to try, but in the end (spoiler alert!) - she left him. I think Christian Grey is pretty unstable in his own head and he doesn't know what he really wants. I don't see him as an abuser and I don't see Anna as the one being abused. Again - the movie has nothing to do with BDSM or BDSM relationship. I just think Christian is stuck to Anna, because she's a pretty normal, down to earth girl and he wants her to fix him (all the things happened to him in the past and all that).

She is in no way normal. She has zero sexual experience or apparent knowledge about consensual sex. She has to make up multiple personalities in her mind to even cope with the idea of sex.

He stalked her multiple times. Sent her copies of a book about a woman who falls in love with her rapist to her home because he stalked her. He kidnapped her. He undressed her while she was unconscious. He physically assaults her in the exact same manner as the man he "saves her from." At no point in these "S&M" scenes does he check to make sure she's okay or even makes her aware that she can stop.

If that's not abusive behavior, I don't know what the hell is.

threlayer
03-18-2015, 11:02 AM
Thanks for the reviews. Now I know specifically why I will NOT see this one. I am opposed to myself in any kind of D/s or Sadistic/Masochistic kind of relationship or even fantasy. Mutual pleasure is my kind of stuff and I see no pleasure in this.

I just don't get it.

simone87
03-18-2015, 11:05 AM
i really dont see how anybody can say that this relationship ins't abusive, a "fantasy" or not. i read a bit of the book because i was curious ( dont worry i didn't buy it), and he beats her while she's struggling and crying and then she says " i didn't like that much, dont do it again" and he goes " it wasn't for your pleasure" the FUCK??

Naida
03-19-2015, 10:57 PM
I ended up discussing this damn movie again today with my brother's girlfriend, who went to see the movie. After putting his abusive behavior into perspective for her last time we discussed it, she mentioned drawing her own conclusion today that "it's only hot because he's rich. If he lived in a trailer, people would think he's a psycho."

HoolaTwister
03-20-2015, 08:44 AM
i ended up discussing this damn movie again today with my brother's girlfriend, who went to see the movie. After putting his abusive behavior into perspective for her last time we discussed it, she mentioned drawing her own conclusion today that "it's only hot because he's rich. If he lived in a trailer, people would think he's a psycho."

so.true.!!!!!

michele11
03-20-2015, 02:19 PM
i really dont see how anybody can say that this relationship ins't abusive, a "fantasy" or not. i read a bit of the book because i was curious ( dont worry i didn't buy it), and he beats her while she's struggling and crying and then she says " i didn't like that much, dont do it again" and he goes " it wasn't for your pleasure" the FUCK??

That's a meme.

BambiCutieSlimePrincess
03-31-2015, 01:10 AM
Wow, finally someone raises that issue! Agree that it promotes woman and abusive relationships. For those seeking out their fetishes, I find it to be different than providing an image for woman to base themselves from. You pretty much hit the nail on the head! I never bothered reading or watching 50 Shades, nothing turned me on about it other than Jennifer Lopez's opening moan for the movie..she is pretty sexy!

SnuffleUffleGrass
03-31-2015, 08:58 AM
I've never read the book, but I watched the movie (I just had to). It was a two hour of me asking myself: "wtf am I watching?"

On the contrary to popular belief - I didn't feel that the movie portrayed Anna as a victim, at all. And she didn't act like one. She tried whatever he wanted her to try, but in the end (spoiler alert!) - she left him. I think Christian Grey is pretty unstable in his own head and he doesn't know what he really wants. I don't see him as an abuser and I don't see Anna as the one being abused. Again - the movie has nothing to do with BDSM or BDSM relationship. I just think Christian is stuck to Anna, because she's a pretty normal, down to earth girl and he wants her to fix him (all the things happened to him in the past and all that).


This reminds me of my most unfavorite part of stripping....the emotional gore of customers wanting strippers to "make everything right/better." So heavy.

A better movie about flawed male obsession is Hitchcock's "Vertigo"...but Jimmy Stewart is WAYYYYYY more of real man than "Christian Grey"

threlayer
03-31-2015, 02:52 PM
I read all three Sleeping Beauty novels, trying to see if I could find some joy in them. Nope, not my style. But there surely is a very wide range of sexual appetites out there, and we are highly tuned into what we personally enjoy. I believe that is why we dismiss other variations of sexual activity.

charlie61
03-31-2015, 06:59 PM
This thread is funny because it's so easy to tell the difference between the people who read through it and understand the complexity of what we're discussing, and those who are missing the point entirely. Just sayin'. ;)

SnuffleUffleGrass
03-31-2015, 07:25 PM
This thread is funny because it's so easy to tell the difference between the people who read through it and understand the complexity of what we're discussing, and those who are missing the point entirely. Just sayin'. ;)

Well. I maintain 1) there are better books about BDSM & 2) the "Grey" books were based on fanfic about "Twlight"..which is totally nuts.

charlie61
03-31-2015, 07:29 PM
Well. I maintain 1) there are better books about BDSM & 2) the "Grey" books were based on fanfic about "Twlight"..which is totally nuts.

Dearie dear, I wasn't talking about you. :-*

ScarletKitten
04-03-2015, 09:56 PM
Wow, finally someone raises that issue! Agree that it promotes woman and abusive relationships. For those seeking out their fetishes, I find it to be different than providing an image for woman to base themselves from. You pretty much hit the nail on the head! I never bothered reading or watching 50 Shades, nothing turned me on about it other than Jennifer Lopez's opening moan for the movie..she is pretty sexy!

J-Lo is in the movie? Huh? I think you're confusing movies or actresses.

michele11
04-05-2015, 09:45 AM
^ I believe she's referring to the music? But it's Beyonce, not jenifer Lopez.

emma383
04-21-2015, 08:55 AM
A warning to Fifty Shades' fraus: Irish woman murdered on a mountain by BDSM 'master' she met on a fetish webiste.


http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/graham-dwyer-and-elaine-o-hara-the-master-slave-relationship-1.2156173

Trem
04-21-2015, 09:56 AM
I don't understand why people are wasting their time watching this crap. Everyone says is sucks, yet people are still flocking to it. I think I'd rather watch flies fuck. Time is valuable people, don't waste it on this dog shit!

Everyone said Twilight sucked too and it made shit tons of money. Lots of shitty stuff is incredibly popular.