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charlie61
12-09-2018, 09:33 PM
I would bet a lot of us appreciate tipsy Charlie posting! The only differences I've ever noticed are that you delve into the topic a bit deeper than usual, and well.. tell us you're tipsy :)

:flirt: :hug: :grouphug:

gameover
12-09-2018, 09:57 PM
I always enjoy Charlie's posts, not only because they're good posts, but because I get to see her profile pic in the post. I don't know what it is about that pic, but it pushes all my buttons. If she looked like her profile pic in the club, she'd probably talk me into the full VIP hourly rate. You must promise to use your super powers only for good, never for evil. :)

Bahuba
12-10-2018, 09:52 AM
Part of what you're fighting / paying for as the dude who wants to buy a dancer's entire night is the sort of "gambling effect ".. if you walked into a casino, intent on being there for 4-8 hours, as an experienced gambler... how would you feel if someone handed you $500 with the limitation that you have to sit there for the next 4-8 hours, watching everyone else gamble, and not participating...? Some women would be happy with the guaranteed money. Others would rather leave the money and gamble on making more money without restrictions on how the time is spent. And others would be fine taking a 'risk' on the guaranteed money, but they'd need to receive more ($800, $1k, whatever) to be happy sitting still for the entire shift (i.e. staying with one customer).

Tipsy Charlie post... hopefully that makes sense!

Charlie posting in customer conversation - a rare honor and a great post - thanks!

OmegaWest
12-10-2018, 10:38 AM
How do you know she even wants to spend an entire night with you in the first place? If and only If, she agrees to such a thing 1 buy her off stage so 250 right there, if she normally sells bottles then you have the price of the bottle over 6 to 8 hours so at low end for 60 minutes at 250 a bottle minimum 1500 to 2000 added as well.

6-8 hours of her time in the room at a minimum of 500 for the hour so then you have 3 to 4k for her in cash.

so right there you have for six hours is 3000 for her alone plus the other 1750 to cover the club costs

and for 8 hours it 4000 for the girl and 2275 for the club and these are bare minimums with the cheapest bottle to hold the room for that amount of time.

So to sum it up for six hours if you can get her to budge off the 3000 her time is worth at the lowest say she says 2k your spending 3750 for the night not counting food drinks beyond the champagne.

eight hours 4750 min with her getting 3k in cash plus food and drinks beyond the champagne. so basically your night will cost 5 to 7 thousand if she doesnt budge the number

Now this is from a club aspect, for if I was the manager on the floor and you wanted to take a girl off rotation and keep her for the whole shift be it six or 8 hours you better come with serious cash because otherwise offering 1000 total I would tell you to wake up and come with a proper number or take a hike

Jalena
12-10-2018, 11:31 AM
'How do you know she even wants to spend an entire night with you in the first place?' This is really the first question to ask yourself, IMO.

Someone upthread said their shift is only four or five hours. I know many clubs only require 4-6hr shifts from dancers, but I have never worked in one; mine have always been 7hrs minimum. So that fact alone probably has the biggest influence on my willingness to be bought out for the whole shift.

That said, depending on the club structure, I charge anywhere from 300 to 500 for an hour, and that doesn't include drinks or any club fees. I am good doing back to back hours for the most part, but it can take a lot out of you depending on what the customer wants from that time. If a customer came up to me and wanted to buy me out for a full 6-8hrs, my first thought would be 'Oh wow!' followed immediately by, 'Oh shit! How am I going to fill ALL of that time and keep him feeling entertained?'

OmegaWest has the right idea for the cost of 6-8hrs. A buyout quote for an entire shift of that length? $4K minimum, easy, and that's not including food or club fees.

charlie61
12-10-2018, 12:30 PM
'How do you know she even wants to spend an entire night with you in the first place?' ... If a customer came up to me and wanted to buy me out for a full 6-8hrs, my first thought would be 'Oh wow!' followed immediately by, 'Oh shit! How am I going to fill ALL of that time and keep him feeling entertained?'


100% this. I'd rather dance for someone for an hour, feel like i can give it my all and truly entertain him, have him leave the club feeling like a million bucks (and likely to return as a consistent regular), 'only' make $300 (or whatever)... than make $1-2k for a full night of constant attention and effort, feeling like i've run out of 'material' after a couple of hours, having him leave feeling good but financially depleted, leaving me feeling like i've done a month's worth of emotional and physical labor, only to have him start limiting his visits to quarterly sessions due to the expense.

Shrugs. Maybe that's just me!

What would help mitigate this concern is to set expectations...4+ hours of cuddling and massage on the couch with something to watch (the club itself? Television? Anything?) is very different than 4+ hours of constant dancing and conversation.

Think of this in the context of first dates. Would you go on a date somewhere, where there's nothing to do but stare at each other? That's a tall order for even two highly entertaining individuals. It's too much time to fill without having something else going on...

Titus23
12-10-2018, 04:13 PM
What would help mitigate this concern is to set expectations...4+ hours of cuddling and massage on the couch with something to watch (the club itself? Television? Anything?) is very different than 4+ hours of constant dancing and conversation.

As the guy that regularly buys a dancer out for the night (at a club without CRs), I'm looking for the cuddles, not the dancing. With the girl I hang out with, it's very easy. We drink, we talk about life, we cuddle, we generally crash and nap about halfway through the night (because the liquor caught up lmao), and I always give her a massage at one point. We don't do dances, and there are no rooms at this club. I just give her a chance to basically take a weeknight of hustling off (I let her have the high volume Fridays and Saturdays), and we relax. It's very chill, and she walks out with about a grand on average. A couple weeks ago she needed rent ASAP but I was out of town, so I cash apped her the money and when we finally hung out, she counted that as a down payment so I didn't bring much in. It's a very respectful two way relationship where we both feel valued. Win/win I think.

charlie61
12-10-2018, 08:16 PM
^Sounds perfect! :)

Every dancer is different, as is every customer, so take my post with a grain of salt!

Raziel
12-11-2018, 08:51 PM
Who the hell wants to sit in a Strip Club for 8 hours straight?

charlie61
12-11-2018, 09:59 PM
Who the hell wants to sit in a Strip Club for 8 hours straight?

I could imagine how the environment of a private room in a strip club + entertaining dancer + drinks + massage + cuddling could turn into a 4-8 hour extravaganza. Strip clubs provide an interesting, sexually charged atmosphere... and time flies after a few drinks. I personally would never be into it, but i could see how someone else would be. I mean, i can enjoy a 6+ hour conversation with a good friend and feel like it's been 10 minutes. When you're in that pleasure zone, time ceases to exist!

Titus23
12-12-2018, 07:55 AM
I could imagine how the environment of a private room in a strip club + entertaining dancer + drinks + massage + cuddling could turn into a 4-8 hour extravaganza. Strip clubs provide an interesting, sexually charged atmosphere... and time flies after a few drinks. I personally would never be into it, but i could see how someone else would be. I mean, i can enjoy a 6+ hour conversation with a good friend and feel like it's been 10 minutes. When you're in that pleasure zone, time ceases to exist!

Precisely. It doesn't feel like 8 hours. Especially when we've had a few drinks. Plus, its a hell of a lot better than just staying in a hotel room for the same 8 hours. Though, in my case, as you said Charlie, it's akin to talking with a good friend. I text with this girl every day, almost all day long (when she's awake). I've given her rides to and from work, crashed on her couch for the night when I've had too much to drink, and we confide in eachother about all the craziness in our lives. She's said it herself. I'm not a customer, I'm her friend. She recently repaid a $400 loan I gave her, which solidified to me that we've graduated to more than just the money. I don't have anything in mind for her beyond friendship, and I know she's the same. But we have a good time when we hang out, so why not?

Vyanka
12-12-2018, 01:37 PM
I could imagine how the environment of a private room in a strip club + entertaining dancer + drinks + massage + cuddling could turn into a 4-8 hour extravaganza. Strip clubs provide an interesting, sexually charged atmosphere... and time flies after a few drinks. I personally would never be into it, but i could see how someone else would be. I mean, i can enjoy a 6+ hour conversation with a good friend and feel like it's been 10 minutes. When you're in that pleasure zone, time ceases to exist!

Yup. Time flies by for the guy when he's having fun. And money;)

arielbriel
12-12-2018, 02:53 PM
Personally, I have a hard time being alone with a dude for multiple hours. I always bring a friend so double that fee lol.

Raziel
12-13-2018, 11:45 PM
I could imagine how the environment of a private room in a strip club + entertaining dancer + drinks + massage + cuddling could turn into a 4-8 hour extravaganza. Strip clubs provide an interesting, sexually charged atmosphere... and time flies after a few drinks. I personally would never be into it, but i could see how someone else would be. I mean, i can enjoy a 6+ hour conversation with a good friend and feel like it's been 10 minutes. When you're in that pleasure zone, time ceases to exist!

I get antsy. In VIP two hours tops. Often less than that. None of these girls are beholden to me, therefore i am not beholden to them. There are others out there that i might want to spend time with.

Bahuba
12-15-2018, 12:58 PM
Personally, I have a hard time being alone with a dude for multiple hours. I always bring a friend so double that fee lol.

This works :-)

Raziel
12-16-2018, 05:20 AM
How much should I offer for the whole night?

Your immortal soul.

Bahuba
12-16-2018, 11:29 PM
your immortal soul.

LOL!!

Steve4433
12-17-2018, 12:01 AM
I always knew I should have been born a pretty girl. 4800 a day and no overhead? I'll do that.

Vyanka
12-17-2018, 12:29 AM
I always knew I should have been born a pretty girl. 4800 a day and no overhead? I'll do that.

Shit. Fuck that...Why not be THAT GUY who can pay those chics!! ;)

Bahuba
12-17-2018, 10:23 AM
Shit. Fuck that...Why not be THAT GUY who can pay those chics!! ;)

Yep! Also all of them don't make that or even close to it every day. Some make a lot more, but only sometimes. I've known quite a few dancers that I saw with my own eyes make over $1200 every time I was in the house, so I believe they probably did that well every night, but I haven't seen anyone make 5k a night that I personally saw. That doesn't mean they don't exist, I imagine they're just rare.

Vyanka
12-19-2018, 12:05 PM
You guys need to focus on spending. Not focus on stripper income. It's like sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.

::)

arielbriel
12-19-2018, 03:26 PM
You guys need to focus on spending. Not focus on stripper income. It's like sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.

::)

It's funny how they always ask us how much we make or just flat out assume but if we dare ask them, "IM NOT TELLING YOU HOME MUCH I MAKE!!" LOL. Funny.

Vyanka
12-19-2018, 03:45 PM
It's funny how they always ask us how much we make or just flat out assume but if we dare ask them, "IM NOT TELLING YOU HOME MUCH I MAKE!!" LOL. Funny.

Better yet, when they assume millions EASILY falls into our laps!! Haha...

Whatever the hell we make, we work fkn hard while smelling these men's beer breath, etc.

Dude in the club... Don't ever ask or assume. Just stfu, have fun, and spend. We pay lots of house fees, taxes, work gear, etc... so ain't as pretty as ya'll assume.

Better yet, OP... just ask the chic herself. Every girl is different.

Vyanka
12-19-2018, 04:07 PM
I think it's hella rude when ppl assume or ask how much you make.

Like example...I never assumed my favorite bartenders make xyz and will never ask. I tip them WELL, I get good service. You should too.