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tempest666
04-22-2015, 07:07 PM
Call me old fashioned but back in my day we didn't have to jam stuff up our pooper to make money. It was about selling a fantasy back then.

Starling
04-22-2015, 08:12 PM
How is wearing a buttplug any different from getting a piercing anywhere on your body? The only difference is that the hole already exists.

I understand what you mean. To us girls it may be so, and in a way it does sound aesthetic. But to customers it is not. It would not be like a piercing, and could be perceived as something unusual or kinky to the customers especially since this is not a mainstream thing.

Customers already expect so much from us dancers. If this were to become popular in my club, and customers were expecting me to do this I would switch clubs, just as I would switch clubs if too many guys expected me to do extras like the other girls.

OliveJardin
04-22-2015, 10:20 PM
Call me old fashioned but back in my day we didn't have to jam stuff up our pooper to make money. It was about selling a fantasy back then.

^You took the words right out of my mouth!

lokikola
04-22-2015, 10:38 PM
At some point stripping is not just stripping but sex work/a sex act. Pretty sure just like using dildos on stage gets clubs shut down this is the same. Shouldn't be allowed.

lokikola
04-22-2015, 10:42 PM
How is wearing a buttplug any different from getting a piercing anywhere on your body? The only difference is that the hole already exists.

I think it's awesome that the trend is wearing one as a dancer. There are buttplugs that light up, glow in the dark, have hello kitty on them, etc. I would go to town!

Its completely different. Its not a "hole" as a piercing is. Once a piercing heals there isn't body fluids/excrement coming out of it. fucking DUH.

tempest666
04-22-2015, 11:16 PM
Its completely different. Its not a "hole" as a piercing is. Once a piercing heals there isn't body fluids/excrement coming out of it. fucking DUH.

You mean I can't make poop squirt from my nipple piercings? :'(

hyori
04-23-2015, 06:01 PM
Its completely different. Its not a "hole" as a piercing is. Once a piercing heals there isn't body fluids/excrement coming out of it. fucking DUH.

Wow, and pus, blood and scarring is any better out of any orifice? Okaaaay then.

hyori
04-23-2015, 06:03 PM
You mean I can't make poop squirt from my nipple piercings? :'(

Like that would even be the same thing. At least get your anatomy straight.

lynn2009
04-23-2015, 06:10 PM
Like that would even be the same thing. At least get your anatomy straight.

I'm sure she was being facetious.

hyori
04-23-2015, 06:12 PM
^^ yes she probably was, my apologies.

22lligm
04-23-2015, 06:26 PM
Wow, and pus, blood and scarring is any better out of any orifice? Okaaaay then.

I think the point is a guy can't stick his dick in your piercing hole. Your asshole can be a hole used for sex and a piercing hole isn't lol.

lokikola
04-23-2015, 09:57 PM
Wow, and pus, blood and scarring is any better out of any orifice? Okaaaay then.

Once a piercing heals none of that comes out of it. Not gonna argue with you about this. Its not about one being better than the other, they're completely different. If you think of a piercing is the same as your colon perhaps you should study anatomy. okaaaaayyy? -_-

I would refuse to work at a club that allows this nastiness. Seriously, that shit can pop out with shit on it on the stage, in a chair, anywhere. Fuck that shit, literally.

tempest666
04-23-2015, 10:43 PM
I think the point is a guy can't stick his dick in your piercing hole. Your asshole can be a hole used for sex and a piercing hole isn't lol.

To be fair, have you seen some of those gauges? And there are some strange fetishes out there.

tempest666
04-23-2015, 10:52 PM
The ONLY way I'll consider a buttplug is if it can function simultaneously as a light saber. Now THAT is awesome. Someone find me one. I'll wear it to work then. But it must be a fully functional purple light saber buttplug like Mace Windu's.

Eban'ko
04-23-2015, 11:00 PM
Argh,just argh...

Have never seen a dancer,wearing this shit,and hopefully,never will.

zoezoebelle
04-24-2015, 12:09 AM
I would be that snide bitch who sticks a fake jewel to my ass with body tape to jump on a trend while avoiding the consequences. Customer pulls off tape... "What is this?" "I shit diamonds, obviously."

Starling
04-24-2015, 09:13 AM
Double post

Starling
04-24-2015, 09:16 AM
I would refuse to work at a club that allows this nastiness. Seriously, that shit can pop out with shit on it on the stage, in a chair, anywhere. Fuck that shit, literally.

This is what I was thinking, it's not exactly hygienic and strippers in general are not the most hygienic people I know. I know strip clubs are dirty. I've stepped on semen that was on the floor in a champagne room once. This is one more thing I'll have to worry about.

MyButter
04-24-2015, 10:46 AM
Man, I can't wait to hobble into a SC when I'm 80 years old and hopped up on a cocktail of prescription drugs, and see how much everything has changed.

Vyanka
04-24-2015, 11:33 AM
This is what I was thinking, it's not exactly hygienic and strippers in general are not the most hygienic people I know. I know strip clubs are dirty. I've stepped on semen that was on the floor in a champagne room once. This is one more thing I'll have to worry about.

Seriously...

Drunken strippers are careless by the end of the shift. I can picture some in the dressing room drunk and tired, removing this plug out of their ass and putting it on the counters where we do hair/makeup or benches where sit. Spreading e. coli all over the place.

TiffTiff
04-24-2015, 01:18 PM
Seriously...

Drunken strippers are careless by the end of the shift. I can picture some in the dressing room drunk and tired, removing this plug out of their ass and putting it on the counters where we do hair/makeup or benches where sit. Spreading e. coli all over the place.

I am already a germophobe to a point. I NEVER take my shoes off in the club. When I do it on the dressing room I stand on my towel. I use hand sanitizer every 3 minutes....I can't imagine butt plugs being on every surface, or watching girls change them out to match their outfit. *gag* I don't believe certain fetishes belong in a strip club. Fishnets, ok. Girls with glasses, ok. Piercings, ok. Butt plugs....no. That is for camming or porn.

hyori
04-24-2015, 01:44 PM
Girls who do anal usually use enemas, douches and other methods to completely cleanse themselves out because no one wants a chocolate cake pop coming out their ass. Besides that, did you know the anus actually carries less bacteria then the human mouth? The only way you could actually get sick from an anal plug is if you were to pull it out your ass and immediately put it directly into your mouth and suck on it or stick it into your vag.

This thread surprises me a lot, I really thought dancers would be more comfortable with things like anal sex but I am clearly in the minority here which is completely fine. It just surprises me. I mean as a cam girl, the thought of being a dancer and having gross men touch me, or being able to touch or smell them gives me nightmares. Give me a buttplug and I'll put my ass on macro for the guy watching me on his computer screen anyday.

Aniela
04-24-2015, 01:58 PM
Girls who do anal usually use enemas, douches and other methods to completely cleanse themselves out because no one wants a chocolate cake pop coming out their ass. Besides that, did you know the anus actually carries less bacteria then the human mouth? The only way you could actually get sick from an anal plug is if you were to pull it out your ass and immediately put it directly into your mouth and suck on it or stick it into your vag.

This thread surprises me a lot, I really thought dancers would be more comfortable with things like anal sex but I am clearly in the minority here which is completely fine. It just surprises me. I mean as a cam girl, the thought of being a dancer and having gross men touch me, or being able to touch or smell them gives me nightmares. Give me a buttplug and I'll put my ass on macro for the guy watching me on his computer screen anyday.

Safe over there behind your computer screen, you've also got the luxury of not having to worry abt the cross-contamination Vyanka & others have talked abt in this thread. SCs are dirty places, & dressing rooms can get pretty tight spacewise. There's always at least one or two girls who throw their junk all over the place & don't give a fk where it lands. I'd say the fear of sm eggs-for-brains stoned/drunk bitch popping her buttplug out & leaving it on the counter while she wanders off to do whatever is a legit one. It's not that we are just completely anti-buttplug, a lot of us just don't feel the SC is an appropriate environment for them.

As for 'properly cleaning yourself out' beforehand, I've worked w/ quite a few girls who I can safely say wouldn't care abt that. They'd just stick it up there & be off to the races, & at the end of the nite it would be 'chocolate cake pops' for all :ill:

lynn2009
04-24-2015, 02:05 PM
Girls who do anal usually use enemas, douches and other methods to completely cleanse themselves out because no one wants a chocolate cake pop coming out their ass. Besides that, did you know the anus actually carries less bacteria then the human mouth? The only way you could actually get sick from an anal plug is if you were to pull it out your ass and immediately put it directly into your mouth and suck on it or stick it into your vag.


There are good, helpful kinds of bacteria and bad kinds. Your mouth has the good kind. Your anus has the bad kind. And if a girl does an enema before each time she puts anything up her butt (which I hope she doesn't, as regular enemas are bad for you too), there is still bacteria present. It is microscopic.

I guess I can't articulate very well why using butt plugs seems, to me, to cross a ridiculous boundary in a strip club. Not only the health issues but I would take more issue with the changes in industry it represents. This seems to only be a thing in Portland, where earning ceilings are known for being low. So what do girls w/ low earning potential do? Not travel, or up their game but just stick an anal plug up their butt for the shock factor? Seriously, what is next? Two years ago I was absolutely horrified to see girls (I think simulating) oral sex on each other on stage. Don't get me wrong, if anal is your thing then more power to you but to walk around w/ a plug in for hours, in public?

tempest666
04-24-2015, 02:09 PM
^I'm sure a lot worse goes on at Show N' Smell than buttplugs. It's just a sign of the times.

Aniela
04-24-2015, 02:22 PM
Sry, can't hold off anymore …

kaninchen
04-24-2015, 03:18 PM
This thread surprises me a lot, I really thought dancers would be more comfortable with things like anal sex but I am clearly in the minority here which is completely fine. It just surprises me. I mean as a cam girl, the thought of being a dancer and having gross men touch me, or being able to touch or smell them gives me nightmares. Give me a buttplug and I'll put my ass on macro for the guy watching me on his computer screen anyday.

For me at least, the fact that it's a butt plug is the least of it. Look, I'll be honest, I love anal. Yay anal, anal for everyone! LOL. What I think is inappropriate is the fact that it's a sex toy -- it's just too sexually explicit for a strip club. Strip clubs are not porn, they are not brothels, they are supposed to be for entertainment, not getting off. From my perspective, the overtly sexual nature of a buttplug crosses the line into extras territory, the same way that fingering is widely considered an extra.

I think your point that as a camgirl, physical contact with a customer would be nightmarish, is an important insight. Is there anything else that's off limits within your field? Are there camgirls who meet up with customers and give them stripper-style private shows? If so, how is that received by the camming community? I imagine it would be frowned upon, just like how many of us frown upon buttplugs in the club.

hyori
04-24-2015, 04:58 PM
Is there anything else that's off limits within your field? Are there camgirls who meet up with customers and give them stripper-style private shows? If so, how is that received by the camming community? I imagine it would be frowned upon, just like how many of us frown upon buttplugs in the club.

Most cam girls are strictly cam girls and do not crossover into stripping, escorting or porn. Those that do are not frowned up on at all. In fact, I think that cam girls who do crossover are given more respect simply because of the balls they have and because we can look to them for guidance should any of us decide to go into other areas of sex work. Live cam sex is very very open and there any many niches, types of girls and performances that go into being on live cam. Every kind of sex toy is accepted really...it's only the actual cam site that will limit what can be used eg. fisting. You'll see cam girls using bedposts, baseball bats etc. You'll see girls who have prolapsed vaginas using their abilities for gold shows...the freaky is revered in camming!

lokikola
04-24-2015, 05:22 PM
Most cam girls are NOT strictly cam girls. First.
You can't jump in here and think we are being prudes or whatever because you think a buttplug is no big deal in your line of work. It is not the same.
Strip clubs don't cater to 'niches' that is why someone can be successful as bbw on cam but unlikely to be hired in most clubs. Strip club is an entirely different box and having a butt plug in is a no-no just like we don't allow live sex shows or dildos. Some underground clubs may do that but its likely illegal and any decent club wouldn't allow it.

The freaky is NOT revered in stripping so although its no big deal to you it is in stripping because like you said, no one is touching you. I'm not worried about your sex toys splashing on me because its just a screen. Your argument of bacteria is just flat out stupid as well, because they're different types of bacterias.

You could argue this all day, but you're stuck in your cam girl mentality and unwilling to see how this is a problem in an actual strip club even though we get how its perfectly normal for camming.

This is why it is in the stripping category.

Kitcatt
04-24-2015, 05:24 PM
Most cam girls are strictly cam girls and do not crossover into stripping, escorting or porn. Those that do are not frowned up on at all. In fact, I think that cam girls who do crossover are given more respect simply because of the balls they have and because we can look to them for guidance should any of us decide to go into other areas of sex work. Live cam sex is very very open and there any many niches, types of girls and performances that go into being on live cam. Every kind of sex toy is accepted really...it's only the actual cam site that will limit what can be used eg. fisting. You'll see cam girls using bedposts, baseball bats etc. You'll see girls who have prolapsed vaginas using their abilities for gold shows...the freaky is revered in camming!


Ooooo, I'd have to disagree with you there Hyori. I'd say a LOT of cam girls take issue with crossover models, especially those that dabble in escorting. The screaming cry of "I'm not a hooker! I'm a cam girl!" can be heard daily in most rooms. I'd also say that extreme masturbation had a lot of cam girls seething. The idea of pussy and anal prolapsing becoming the norm on cam (and the customer who expects it) makes me uncomfortable as well (not to thread jack). I can understand how butt plug in a club could upset dancers just like I can understand these issues.

hyori
04-24-2015, 06:08 PM
I completely understand all viewpoints. I never called anyone a prude, nor do I think I'm being stupid to bring up my opinion yet, someone here is resorting to childish name calling when I don't deserve it at all. I respect dancers/strippers very much. In fact, at one point, I really desired the lifestyle and career choice to the point where I seriously considered moving to Guam. You're all awesome, beautiful and strong and I really admire the fact that all of you can do what you do.

I always thought camming was more open about all areas of sexuality, guess I was wrong! Well, back I go into my pink bubble.

HoolaTwister
04-24-2015, 06:23 PM
Actually you basically did call us prudes. What's it to you anyway, you're a cam girl and this is about STRIPPERS in STRIP CLUBS. Okay? Ok.

lokikola
04-24-2015, 07:22 PM
I'm not name calling. I'm not saying you're stupid, what you tried to claim is just stupid. Do you really think that the bacteria in are mouths are worse than the bacteria from fecal matter? I don't think you really believe that, you're just trying to post half truths instead of coming around and saying, "hmm, you know what guys, I never thought of that, valid points." Nope, you'd just rather go on acting as if we are irrational for not thinking like you (that a butt plug is the same as a piercing, lol).

Starling
04-24-2015, 11:55 PM
As for 'properly cleaning yourself out' beforehand, I've worked w/ quite a few girls who I can safely say wouldn't care abt that. They'd just stick it up there & be off to the races, & at the end of the nite it would be 'chocolate cake pops' for all :ill:

You took the words right out of my mouth. Most girls I've worked with were not that meticulous, at all. This is just like how some girls openly change their bloody tampons in the dressing room in sight of everyone in it (true story).

A lot of strippers are not the most classy ladies.

kaninchen
04-25-2015, 09:18 AM
^ Seriously, we could have a whole thread devoted to disgusting dressing room moments. I think the worst I've seen was when someone had peed in the corner. Not even in the trash can. Straight onto the carpet!

Miss_Red
04-26-2015, 08:07 PM
Shit I have NEVER seen at my Portland club where this is common:

-Used butt plugs sitting around in dressing rooms
-Butt plugs being removed in the dressing room or outside of it
-Anal sex toy shows onstage
-Poop in a butt-plug related context

If I saw these things? Yeah, I'd be grossed out. But I haven't seen it.

This is a thing that happens in a couple of clubs in one city in one country on earth, it doesn't hurt anyone, and it doesn't strike me as substantively worse than, say, heavy grinding, which is overtly sexual, legal in plenty of places, and common as hell. The only argument I've seen in here that makes sense to me at all is the one Starling made about the inherent sexuality of them and the fact that she, personally, is uncomfortable with it and wouldn't want to do it. No one is making anyone do this, and even at my club where it is common I make fine money not wearing one.

I understand not wanting to wear one, but I don't understand all the hate. I think people on here have some kind of dystopian vision of a horrible, poop-stained place where girls have to stick stuff up their butts to make money and I assure you it's not the case.

Yes, it's overtly sexual, like so much else that happens at clubs--it's certainly moving away from the realm of fantasy-creation as oppose to sexual stimulation. Please, tell me of this magical land where you get money handed to you for crafting a fantasy without some kind of sexual contact (grinding, one-way contact, two-way-contact, whatever) in today's world of on-demand free Internet porn. I'd like to travel there, it sounds nice.

Starling
04-26-2015, 08:34 PM
This may not happen at your club. And I've worked in clubs that were relatively cleaner and well taken care of compared to other ones. Comparing one club with another can be like comparing apples to oranges.

If I used the same logic of girls sloppily leaving gross things around, I've seen things that would require eye bleach, and haven't seen the same practices done in the next club.

lokikola
04-26-2015, 10:13 PM
Things I have not seen in this thread: Hate.

Where is it?

I stand by it, its a sex toy and a sex act. Its just as bad as fingering yourself on stage or shoving a dildo in your pussy, IMO. I'll take the grinding over actually starting to insert things into my ass or pussy.

Aniela
04-26-2015, 11:52 PM
^^^^ Agreed. Sm of you 'pro buttplug' girls seem to be taking the opposing stance very personally.

There's no hate for buttplugs or other sex toys here -- it's just a matter of finding it inappropriate for the given environment. Further, I'd say incorporating sex toys into a SC performance is smtg that could be viewed in a competitive way -- unless I'm missing smtg, girls are doing it for attention & thus bigger tips, no? Being the nxt novelty performer ... & how are others going to be inspired to further 'push the envelope' when this is no longer novel? It's following the same progression as increased contact lvls ... not necessarily bad in themselves but I don't think necessarily good when you consider the possibilities that could follow. Not to mention, I don't think any pro-buttplug girls are going to be winning any increased respect from customers for performing w/ a full bum.

Luxx78
04-27-2015, 03:45 AM
I've seen this in my club in Oregon, not in Portland. I do not consider these women strippers, I don't know what to call these stupid breeds. It sickens me that dancers are so desperate to make money. It like a trend now, fucking filthy.

KariSwitch
04-28-2015, 10:43 AM
I'm kinda torn with what to think. First, I think it's about freedom of expression. If a girl wants to wear one so be it. Who am I to judge. Would I wear one at the club - I don't think so. But what's the difference between these and sub-dermal implants? I know one girl who has rhine stone sub-dermal implants up the top part of her butt crack. Is there that much of a difference? I know we're talking about "piercings" versus some in your butt...

Also, the question to be becomes is a girl just going to wear it as a decoration or use it more as another "tool" to hustle customers - and in what type of way. A good legit way as look at my sexy butt plug or more of a extras type way.

At first read the idea sorta of appealed to me. I use a butt plug in my personal sex life - I especially like the tail ones. I just find them so f-ing sexy. Seeing a girl with one in just drives me crazy (yep, I'm bi).

But for every girl who would use one responsibly and cleanly there's that girl that probably wouldn't. Also, I'm sure we all know that one girl that we think just isn't hygienic enough and that's where a problem may arise. I could just imagine girls taking them out at in opportune times and girls who just will throw them around like another bra or thong.

And there's the question about what the customers are going to think if you're wearing one. I try to take a step back and look at it objectively. I just see this causing more problems. I could see more customers thinking that the girl is "dirtier" because she has a butt plug in. I just think that this may cause the wrong perception more often than not. I think that too many guys think that girls who like anal stuff are just dirtier girls in general. How's that going to translate into perception in the SC?

Just food for thought.

NightGoddess
04-29-2015, 03:37 PM
Most cam girls are NOT strictly cam girls. First.
You can't jump in here and think we are being prudes or whatever because you think a buttplug is no big deal in your line of work. It is not the same.
Strip clubs don't cater to 'niches' that is why someone can be successful as bbw on cam but unlikely to be hired in most clubs. Strip club is an entirely different box and having a butt plug in is a no-no just like we don't allow live sex shows or dildos. Some underground clubs may do that but its likely illegal and any decent club wouldn't allow it.

The freaky is NOT revered in stripping so although its no big deal to you it is in stripping because like you said, no one is touching you. I'm not worried about your sex toys splashing on me because its just a screen. Your argument of bacteria is just flat out stupid as well, because they're different types of bacterias.

You could argue this all day, but you're stuck in your cam girl mentality and unwilling to see how this is a problem in an actual strip club even though we get how its perfectly normal for camming.

This is why it is in the stripping category.

I just want to point out that strip clubs cater to all kinds, and yes, they also cater to niche markets. I have customers that come and see me specifically because they are into certain fetishes like choking, being slapped, degraded and humiliated, guys who want to smell my feet or armpits, guys who want me to show them my bootyhole, guys who like girls with tattoos and piercings and pink hair.

Maybe back in the 2000's it was cool to be tall, blonde, tan without any ink on your body and that was all that strippers could be, but the times are changing and if you don't change with them, you lose. A lot of girls complain that their money is going down, well you have to evolve with the times to profit or get kicked to the side. Camming is where it's at right now, and strippers are going to evolve to adapt to that mentality and create a wider range of types that are acceptable outside of the tall-tan-blonde-white archetype. In my club, we have all types, the one common denominator is that we are all fit. We have girls with blue hair, ink, huge fake asses, girls who twerk and girls who put on burlesque shows. Every girl in there I have seen make bank off of guys who love her niche.


Shit I have NEVER seen at my Portland club where this is common:

-Used butt plugs sitting around in dressing rooms
-Butt plugs being removed in the dressing room or outside of it
-Anal sex toy shows onstage
-Poop in a butt-plug related context

If I saw these things? Yeah, I'd be grossed out. But I haven't seen it.

This is a thing that happens in a couple of clubs in one city in one country on earth, it doesn't hurt anyone, and it doesn't strike me as substantively worse than, say, heavy grinding, which is overtly sexual, legal in plenty of places, and common as hell. The only argument I've seen in here that makes sense to me at all is the one Starling made about the inherent sexuality of them and the fact that she, personally, is uncomfortable with it and wouldn't want to do it. No one is making anyone do this, and even at my club where it is common I make fine money not wearing one.

I understand not wanting to wear one, but I don't understand all the hate. I think people on here have some kind of dystopian vision of a horrible, poop-stained place where girls have to stick stuff up their butts to make money and I assure you it's not the case.

Yes, it's overtly sexual, like so much else that happens at clubs--it's certainly moving away from the realm of fantasy-creation as oppose to sexual stimulation. Please, tell me of this magical land where you get money handed to you for crafting a fantasy without some kind of sexual contact (grinding, one-way contact, two-way-contact, whatever) in today's world of on-demand free Internet porn. I'd like to travel there, it sounds nice.

Yaaaasss bb yaaassss.

Luxx78
04-30-2015, 01:25 AM
^^^^& I completely agree. Stripping changes from club to club, dancer to dancer. I have done everything from escorting, camming, you name it. Dancing, ON STAGE with a butt plug is so gross on so many levels. That's just the way I feel on a sanitary level, not a moral one.

lokikola
04-30-2015, 10:00 AM
I just want to point out that strip clubs cater to all kinds, and yes, they also cater to niche markets. I have customers that come and see me specifically because they are into certain fetishes like choking, being slapped, degraded and humiliated, guys who want to smell my feet or armpits, guys who want me to show them my bootyhole, guys who like girls with tattoos and piercings and pink hair.

And its of my personal opinion that guys who come in for some of that are just being cheap, because an actual professional dominatrix would charge way more for some of that. Just like guys who come in looking to fuck just don't have the balls to call an escort and pay an escort her rates if she's as good looking as a sexy stripper in a good club.

So we keep giving more and more, now we are shoving shit up our asses and showing them, paying higher house fees, and the price of a lap dance is the same since 1988. Yay. I get it goes way over some people's heads.

kaninchen
04-30-2015, 12:34 PM
I just want to point out that strip clubs cater to all kinds, and yes, they also cater to niche markets. I have customers that come and see me specifically because they are into certain fetishes like choking, being slapped, degraded and humiliated, guys who want to smell my feet or armpits, guys who want me to show them my bootyhole, guys who like girls with tattoos and piercings and pink hair.

Maybe back in the 2000's it was cool to be tall, blonde, tan without any ink on your body and that was all that strippers could be, but the times are changing and if you don't change with them, you lose. A lot of girls complain that their money is going down, well you have to evolve with the times to profit or get kicked to the side. Camming is where it's at right now, and strippers are going to evolve to adapt to that mentality and create a wider range of types that are acceptable outside of the tall-tan-blonde-white archetype. In my club, we have all types, the one common denominator is that we are all fit. We have girls with blue hair, ink, huge fake asses, girls who twerk and girls who put on burlesque shows. Every girl in there I have seen make bank off of guys who love her niche.


First of all LOL at guys who want dancers to show them their buttholes. This is a common request and it never ceases to baffle me! Why are men so fascinated by the most random things?

Second of all... You're completely right, of course. It's not a coincidence that this thread is so active in tandem with the "Are those days ever coming back?" thread. While I've made it clear that I'm less than enthused at the prospect of other people using buttplugs in my work environment, I also think that's just the way the cookie crumbles. The industry has changed, as older dancers have made the comparison with stage dances turning into lap dances turning into extras in the VIP, and logically, it will continue to evolve.

Who knows? Maybe the future will fully integrate the sex industry and in 30 years there won't be a distinction between camming, stripping, and escorting anymore.

tempest666
04-30-2015, 08:02 PM
For the meantime though, if you have to insert ANY object in any of your orifices to make money while stripping you probably shouldn't be doing it. There are other appropriate avenues for that. Just my opinion as an old fuddy duddy.

arielbriel
05-02-2015, 03:35 PM
I think that is disgusting. Completely unsanitary. Is this what stripping is coming to??

tempest666
05-02-2015, 04:16 PM
I think that is disgusting. Completely unsanitary. Is this what stripping is coming to??

Not in our area, yet.

ScarletKitten
05-03-2015, 09:04 AM
I find it funny that some cam girls are getting their panties in a bunch reading this thread. NEWSFLASH: There is a HUGE difference b/w stripping and camming. I've done both. Camming is obviously more sexually explicit- it's a type of pornography. Stripping is not pornography. One is not superior to the other. It's just different. Yes, it all falls under the sex industry. That is the only thing camming and stripping has in common. BUT, shoving an anal plug or dildo up inside you in the club?? That is crossing the line IMO. Stripping is not supposed to be a live sex show. Stripping is all about the seduction, the teasing, the flirtation, stage dancing, and lap dancing. THAT'S IT. If you wanna fuck yourself to make money, hop on cam.

SweetJulia
05-03-2015, 10:00 AM
I find it funny that some cam girls are getting their panties in a bunch reading this thread. NEWSFLASH: There is a HUGE difference b/w stripping and camming. I've done both. Camming is obviously more sexually explicit- it's a type of pornography. Stripping is not pornography. One is not superior to the other. It's just different. Yes, it all falls under the sex industry. That is the only thing camming and stripping has in common. BUT, shoving an anal plug or dildo up inside you in the club?? That is crossing the line IMO. Stripping is not supposed to be a live sex show. Stripping is all about the seduction, the teasing, the flirtation, stage dancing, and lap dancing. THAT'S IT. If you wanna fuck yourself to make money, hop on cam.

I cam now and I've done both, I have to agree. The upper hand in stripping is it's not technically porn like camming and it's harder to get images/footage without your permission on you online. Upper hand with camming is there's no physical contact and there's a much longer distance between you and unhappy stalkers, customers, etc.. I can't deal with the physical contact, so I switched to camming. Worlds colliding crosses into dangerous territory. If you're physically in contact with customers-some nice, but most scum, let's be honest-every second you have a sex toy in an orifice they have the potential to um remove it, technically fuck you with it, etc.. I think that's what Hyori isn't getting. Camming is away from customers, they can only direct you-strip club customers like to take things into their own hands, I have them to thank for a huge chunk of my PTSD. I'm tired and not high yet, let's see if I have some better points to make later.