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LemonTreeFrog
05-11-2015, 06:48 PM
I guess I meant more of the "we are spoiled" in the way of options to earn money - a real life domma turned me on to Niteflirt but I can promise you with out SW I would never have tackled that beast ( although I am far from having it mastered)

@lemontreefrog the linking of the two sites - the cuddling has less impact on the foot site but the foot site makes the cuddling site less credible as a strictly no sex no escorting - I dont see it bothering escorts but regular vanilla ladies would probably see that as a reason to not take it serious as a no sex service - many dancers would have a problem being linked with the site too - i actually had a co-worker friend who was let go from a high end club when they saw her photos on an escort website so it could pose an issue on their main income

For me personally - any session that is less than normal rates I would want a minimum - like 3 hours

there are some rock star marketers on this site - maybe browse the site and do some affiliate marketing for yourself and there is a thread in other work with several work from home jobs

oh yea an after thought - not sure but I think using paypal might be a big issue for paying out - they are a no Buenos for adult services - if you could pass off the cuddling the foot site would probably kill it -they will take your money and keep it or make you wait forever for it - and the cost of a greendot money pak is 5.00 ( another hit on the 40.00 ) but they have now done away with them anyway so not sure how you would pay with that??? and greendot is not allowed to be used for business and will take your money too - lol - ask me how I know - at the least they will cancel your card - and adult is a no no with them too

I agree with you about the foot site and massage site, getting rid of the foot site would make this more credible.

I don't handle the money, or transactions so I can't comment on paypal or credit cards.

ScarletKitten
05-11-2015, 07:03 PM
Honestly, I offer snuggle sessions in VIP at the club for $400/hour, which blows your $40/hr out of the water. Also, as a stripper in a club, you don't have to worry about customers knowing where you live, or being in a stranger's home. You have security and management watching out for you (most likely) and you can walk at any time if the customer breaks your rules (given you received payment up front.) So I think I'd rather do snuggle sessions in a club making way more money instead of through a shady business that has much more risk involved.

LemonTreeFrog
05-11-2015, 07:11 PM
Damn! $400 an hour to cuddle in a VIP club, your in the top 1% of people who could charge for that. I had know idea that's what you guys were bringing in. Sorry for insulting everyone with $40 an hour.

ScarletKitten
05-11-2015, 07:23 PM
^^Well, that's standard VIP pricing. And most of the time they want more than just cuddling. I actually very rarely do VIP's because most guys want to fuck. But on a rare blue moon, a guy will pay that kind of money for just cuddling and feeling close & intimate with a dancer (no sex). But like I said, it's rare nowadays.

But hey, don't worry, you didn't insult anyone (at least not me) - and some girls might be interested in this. But most dancers are used to making more per hour. No worries though! It's good to keep our options open.

Nikki_Fox
05-11-2015, 08:05 PM
I had know idea that's what you guys were bringing in. Sorry for insulting everyone with $40 an hour.

awww dont get all butt hurt - lol - you have been awesome - really :) We just watch each others back here - dissecting the companies that come here looking for talent is part of that - opening up a dialogue brings things to light that others may not have thought of - we learn from each other- but what doesnt work for some may work for others - and as she said 40.00 an hour is good money for some ladies - not everyone is cut out to dance or escort or even do phone sex but they may make an awesome cuddler :) I dont want to knock any ones hustle - I want ladies to be aware of what I see as less than ideal circumstances and hopefully if someone chooses to go forward with any part of your service they can do so with awareness -- I would suggest anyone who does this to sign up with a blacklist service / one that has access to criminal records - dont count on others to keep you safe be proactive in keeping yourself safe --- maybe the powers that be will take some of this in and make some adjustments

charlotte.
05-12-2015, 04:56 AM
As I said before Snugglers can change positions or put a pillow or towel between themselves and the client, avoiding the awkward erection situation. The pay is because this is not a sex service (no nudity, no sex). Massage therapist routinely massage men who happen to become aroused but that's not considered sex work, because the intention is not to arouse men. The intention of the snuggling service is also not to arouse men.

I had no clue what strippers and other sex workers make, so if an hour is offensive, I offer my sincere apologies.

i still dont get it. if someone gets aroused while their huge body is literally hugging yours, your only option is to try to put a thin pillow or towel between their dick and your body? you cant leave?

massage therapists massage men who are laying down. its one way contact and the therapists are licensed. thats why its not sex work. i just dont think you understand that sex work encompasses more than just intercourse. body rubs (which this falls extremely close to), non providing escorting, dancing, phone/text sex operators, the list goes on and on. all sex work and all compensated more with much more safety.

the ama said stuff about licking being okay. sorry, this is really nothing like this platonic cuddle session you keep saying it is.

basically this is a new hybrid category of sex work where youre charging streetwalker prices, streetwalker safety,without the anonymity that streetwalker at least get because not only do you have access to all the private info of all of your applicants, you expect them to post pics online too.

and yes, most of my vips are spent talking and cuddling. 400-800/hr, plenty of bouncers around to make sure im safe, and my pic isnt broadcasted on the internet.

even if you dont listen to anything i say, just remember that you have declared yourself an employee on this board, posted a link to an ama in which the girl admitted sexual contact (yes licking is sexual contact) is fine, and youre admitted erections are acceptable and expected. expect a thank you from law enforcement because a bunch of departments just got their quotas filled.

whirlerz
05-12-2015, 02:36 PM
i still dont get it. if someone gets aroused while their huge body is literally hugging yours, your only option is to try to put a thin pillow or towel between their dick and your body? you cant leave?




:sly::hyper::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Snowy0Star
05-12-2015, 02:59 PM
I'm also a bit concerned that your featured snugglers all look like they could feasibly be sex workers: they're all young, attractive, and some are even posed in a way that makes them look a bit like mail-order brides (yikes, sorry, just being honest!). I mean, especially with these sorts of descriptions: "Hi! I’m Angel. I’m 5’4, slender, and Asian"...O_o

Why aren't there older female snugglers on your page? Why are all of them attractive?

http://snugglecuddletherapy.com/?page_id=46

Also, how do you monitor to make sure that these women aren't offering additional services to their clients?

just to add to this I don't like how the travel preferences are listed as incall/outcall those are escort and body rub service terms ...

LemonTreeFrog
05-12-2015, 09:00 PM
i still dont get it. if someone gets aroused while their huge body is literally hugging yours, your only option is to try to put a thin pillow or towel between their dick and your body? you cant leave?


Snuggler's are entitled to leave if at anytime they feel uncomfortable. We have people doing this work who have been with the company since the beginning, so some people clearly do get it. The licking that was described in the ama, was something the Snuggler did, and is not allowed.

Naida
05-12-2015, 11:38 PM
Incoming wall of text. For you TL;DR folks: Nope, nope, and nope.

First, as a "rep" for the company, you look shady as hell - of course, as you've been repeating since we started questioning you, "I don't mean to offend you." You cannot consistently use proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, or sentence structuring. That does not reflect well on the legitimacy of your advertising or the company you are supposedly advertising for. Why do I say supposedly? That brings me to my next point.

You're using an entirely different URL that you admit to having copied from the parent company's website to gather application information, which includes personal info. That just screams to me that there is some degree of fraud going on. If the company is legitimately evaluating your efficiency as an employee and expects you to bring in new hires using your name, why are they not offering their hiring employees URL extensions for the parent site?

I don't even want to touch Touch Feet, but I have to. The Touch Feet website blatantly advertises what is considered by most law enforcement agencies to be prostitution with its "Enhanced Foot Fetish Service." Despite the website's overall sketchy appearance and lingo, things appeared to be legal by letter of law right up until the service description explicitly states a client can jerk off in a tissue. A twelve year old in a junior high mock trial, never mind a prosecutor after a provider is inevitably arrested, could make a convincing argument to a jury of adults that this implies (and I use the word "imply" very loosely because it's pretty damned obvious) the service is intended to provide sexual gratification to the paying client - ie, prostitution.

Do you and/or your supposed employer honestly believe that this does not cast serious doubt on the legitimacy of your second, "non-sexual" business?

As for Snuggle Buddies itself, there's a lot of issues with trying to overly prove its platonic nature (and we all know how fishy it looks when someone tries too hard to prove innocence) when making certain statements. For instance, the emphasis that clients should wear clothing that absolutely covers their genitalia. It would have been much simpler and less suspicious to state that shorts and T-shirt are the minimum. Do not condone arousal as being natural; simply state that the client should keep in mind that the service does not include sexual activity, and they may take a break or switch positions.

This is further convoluted when, in the span of three inches on my computer screen, the Pricing page says that overnight sessions are available and outcalls may be performed in hotels/motels, rather than simply "third party venues." Though it's not explicitly stated, many people will draw the conclusion that most clients will receive services from a provider of the opposite sex. The fact that overnight services are even offered on the website is an area of contention, because what do most opposite sex adults do during sleepovers? Explicitly add hotels/motels to this mix and it becomes a ticking time bomb for one of three situations to happen: providers to begin offering sexual services, law enforcement to become involved because of the potential for/existence of sexual services, and/or clients to potentially become irate about a lack of sexual services.

Furthermore, the Snuggle Buddies service's supposed benefits is problematic. On the Benefits page, the List of Benefits is stated as if these these supposed benefits will occur for the client and there is no disclaimer regarding the fact that these claims simply cannot be made under FDA guidelines. This opens the business up to an entire host of legal issues, both from unsatisfied customers who did not experience these purported benefits and from the federal government regarding fictitious claims of medical service.

Your supposed employer is also running this business very dangerously and with little to no concern for providers' welfare. Providers and clients are going to each other's homes, but the company is running no (very inexpensive for a company) backgrounds checks on either? Hello, lawsuits. After already outlining the "smells like covert prostitution" fishiness of this company, it's also not a good idea for all of the providers' faces, names, and locations to be blatantly advertised for anyone to see. Even the former provider in the AMA you posted states that people assumed she was a prostitute, and many people may be ostracized at best or even endangered at worst if someone in their community found them on a website that seems prostitution-y.

Finally, the money issues, and there are a lot so I'll just start a list:

- Too cheap to the consumer. Depending on the venue and provider, massage easily costs more than clients are being charged for this "snuggle service." This is a much more intimate service than a massage and, in my opinion, should command a higher price because of that.
- Too cheap to the provider. Again, depending on venue and provider, massage service pays better than this much more intimate, two way contact service does. This is further compounded, in my mind, by the fact that no legitimate safety measures are being taken by the company. In light of that fact, I feel the providers are inadequately compensated for the risks involved and being forced to pay out of pocket for basic safety measures they may wish to employ due to the company's obvious negligence. I'm not saying the cost should be as high as dancers or escorts are compensated, but I would sure as hell expect to be paid more than $200 (assuming the 50% cut is universal on all pricing) to spend the night in bed with a strange man who could easily rape and kill me!
- The company is accepting payment on behalf of and distributing said payment to providers, but is not issuing W2 (in the case of hiring as employees) or 1099 (in the case of hiring independent contractors) forms for those payments. Hello, IRS!
- With such shoddy financial record keeping, what's preventing providers from suing the company to hell and back with the claim (whether legitimate or falsified) that payment for services rendered was not actually received?

In closing, I'll give you credit for posting about the service on this forum. That actually is a smart business move given the physically intimate nature of the company's services and our line of work. However, you can't expect any of us to take this seriously when the company you supposedly represent is sorely mismanaged at best and you appear to be a fraud at worst.

CFMNH44
05-13-2015, 10:39 AM
Haven't read all posts but have two comments -

1) There was a 'cuddle house' that made national news recently, believe it was closed down by the town because of the 'impression' it gave, even though no proof of illegal services found.

2) I want to sign up! (Always wanted to be a gigolo, LOL.) $40 / hr to cuddle? Hell Yeah!


The men's profiles are a hoot! http://thesnugglebuddies.com/male-snugglers/

Nikki_Fox
05-13-2015, 02:05 PM
be prepared @cfmnh44 you will probably be getting snuggled by other males :)

CFMNH44
05-13-2015, 05:22 PM
Thanks Nikki_F - You just had to ruin my fantasy didn't you... ;-)


be prepared @cfmnh44 you will probably be getting snuggled by other males :)

Naida
05-13-2015, 05:43 PM
It would be cruel to let you delude yourself.

LemonTreeFrog
05-13-2015, 06:40 PM
"First, as a "rep" for the company, you look shady as hell - why are they not offering their hiring employees URL extensions for the parent site?"

I understand my website doesn't look the best, and I agree with you that a sub-domain from the main site would be ideal but the owner didn't want to do that. This was the best way I could think of to track applicants.


"I don't even want to touch Touch Feet, but I have to. Do you and/or your supposed employer honestly believe that this does not cast serious doubt on the legitimacy of your second, "non-sexual" business?"

I agree with you about the Touch Feet and have brought it up multiply times with the owner, and told him if he wants more people to take snuggle buddies seriously that he should end the touch feet.

"Finally, the money issues, and there are a lot so I'll just start a list:

- Too cheap to the consumer."

From what I understand, the price used to be higher, but no one wanted the service at the higher price points. After reading more on this forum I understand why you feel $40 an hour is to low. My viewpoint, was that most people I know with college degree don't make $40 an hour, so I thought $40 an hour was a lot of money(more than I ever made).

"The company is accepting payment on behalf of and distributing said payment to providers, but is not issuing W2 (in the case of hiring as employees) or 1099 (in the case of hiring independent contractors) forms for those payments. Hello, IRS!
- With such shoddy financial record keeping, what's preventing providers from suing the company to hell and back with the claim (whether legitimate or falsified) that payment for services rendered was not actually received?"

I've mentioned this to the owner (multiple times), he said (I'm paraphrasing) his lawyer and accountant had it set up so it was tax compliant. Again I still don't understand how the business handle taxes, but he seemed confident in the business structure.

"In closing, I'll give you credit for posting about the service on this forum. That actually is a smart business move given the physically intimate nature of the company's services and our line of work. However, you can't expect any of us to take this seriously when the company you supposedly represent is sorely mismanaged at best and you appear to be a fraud at worst."

Thanks for your input, hopefully some changes will be made with everyone's advice given.

audritwo
05-13-2015, 07:24 PM
As I said before Snugglers can change positions or put a pillow or towel between themselves and the client, avoiding the awkward erection situation.



http://gifs.joelglovier.com/disgust/disgust.gif

Naida
05-13-2015, 07:38 PM
From what I understand, the price used to be higher, but no one wanted the service at the higher price points. After reading more on this forum I understand why you feel $40 an hour is to low. My viewpoint, was that most people I know with college degree don't make $40 an hour, so I thought $40 an hour was a lot of money(more than I ever made).

This point really stood out to me for a variety of reasons, but the two biggest ones are:

- Your assumption that $40/hr is a lot of money. This is subjective. Sure, $40/hr looks good to the typical wage slave. Hell, that's on par with what I'd be making with a doctorate post-dancing. By the same token, the federal minimum wage looks like a fortune to a $0.25 a day sweatshop worker. But you're not talking to wage slaves, sweatshop workers, or people struggling to pay off eight years worth of student loans in an undervalued job market. You're talking to a bunch of women who scoff at anything less than a minimum of $200 (and many of us command much more) for an hour of 1:1 time.

- The fact that for every $40 one of the providers pulls in, the company is getting $40 too and is not using part of that payment to ensure both provider and client safety. One of the clients could be a registered sex offender but the company wouldn't know about that, thanks to their lack of basic criminal background checks, until he rapes and batters a provider. $40/hr to be in an intimate space with an absolute stranger (especially in the provider's own home) is not enough pay if there are no safety measures in place. It also goes without saying that the company is leaving itself open to a crushing lawsuit if something goes wrong.

KikiGem
05-13-2015, 08:01 PM
The men's profiles are a hoot! http://thesnugglebuddies.com/male-snugglers/

Hahaha!! Holden's profile made me laugh hysterically. I would totally snuggle with Jeremy, he's so awww.

Sorry for threadjack...

charlie61
05-13-2015, 11:45 PM
I think this company has good intentions, but the execution of those intentions needs some work.

I was excited to try this until some details came out of the woodwork. I would never work for a company that's taking 50% of 'my money' and using 100% of that for profit (as Naida eloquently discussed above). That's pretty embarrassing for the business. It also doesn't make me feel comfortable that 80% of the "snugglers" look like escorts. I understand that being attractive is good in any line of work, but for something as intimate as cuddling, I think it complicates the business plan to have solely attractive women doing outcall work in a stranger's bedroom (as opposed to working as a sales person behind a counter in a jewelry store, for example). On that note, I have to agree with those above who explained why a business like this is sex work. I've never cuddled with someone without it having a sexual undertone: even if nothing sexual happens, the energy is still sexually intimate...and I'm saying this as an asexual! It doesn't help things that standard snuggle appointments last for an hour, which is the same amount of time as the typical escorting session. There are so many grey, blurry lines here.

I feel like I could do something like this on craigslist, bring in more money, and deal with the same amount of risk I'd be dealing with if I were to go through this company. Yikes. I'll pass.

IvaSkye
05-14-2015, 03:38 AM
That sounds awesome to me and I have not done much sex work other than camming and texting, so $40 honestly does sound amazing for just an hour of nothing but cuddling and my fantasy job to be honest.

The only thing is, I feel like it would be much safer if it were done in a facility for the company and perhaps cameras and that set up, security there, etc. Not sure how I feel about someone coming into my home or me going to theirs. Sounds much too risky to me.

I would be very interested though if you were someday to have it set up to where it can be in a building for your business, at least in a few different states of your choosing. Would sound much more appealing.

IvaSkye
05-14-2015, 03:41 AM
And to be honest, I do not think all the ladies on the website are overly-attractive. Many of them are just average in my opinion. He could have had some barbie doll or really young looking women on there, but I saw many ladies who are not even that all that attractive. Just my opinion.

SweetJulia
05-14-2015, 04:00 AM
Op, I'm gonna hope my post doesn't sound mean, forcing me to drop the Sweet part off my screen name. Some points:
-You say you have to work from home because of a disability. Well, snuggling is done at the providers' home primarily, according to your site. Don't see you jumping at the chance to be alone with a hard/soft/whatever stranger who now knows your address.
-Everything as vanilla as tanning salons have been fronts for prostitution. SOMEONE in your company is doing something, everyone involved can get in trouble.
-40 isn't a lot, your snugglers will likely poach your customers.
Lastly, I appreciate your effort, but this is beyond unsafe and I sincerely hope I don't read about something terrible happening to someone in your company in the future.

SweetJulia
05-14-2015, 04:02 AM
Not highly compensated enough.

Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

OMG can I PLEASE use this as a new signature? Please, please, please-I'll give you lap dances, money, anything lol!

xStacey
05-14-2015, 08:38 AM
OMG can I PLEASE use this as a new signature? Please, please, please-I'll give you lap dances, money, anything lol!

That would be the first time one of my post gets quoted as a signature :blush: of course!!

xStacey
05-14-2015, 08:38 AM
At least with escort agencies that offer incalls and take 50%, they offer an incall location where girls could work safely, they don't receive in their home.

skripper
05-14-2015, 10:31 PM
Does anyone else love the foot escorts girls are the same as the snuggle girls just missing the feet pictures..oh and the boy snuggles...fucking entertaining!

SweetJulia
05-14-2015, 10:40 PM
Oh, and on the touch feet website, in the stats-there's a portion where it says yes or no for ultimate. I'm racking my twelve years experienced in the adult business brain to figure out what that could possibly mean :D

charlie61
05-15-2015, 02:40 PM
Oh, and on the touch feet website, in the stats-there's a portion where it says yes or no for ultimate. I'm racking my twelve years experienced in the adult business brain to figure out what that could possibly mean :D

::cocks head, twirls hair, giggles:: The...ultimate? Whaaaat? I....I just don't understand!

wednesday86
05-20-2015, 06:04 PM
this is a cool concept but honestly if i was going to cuddle professionally, i'd just cut out the middle man. I could not run background checks and drive to strangers' houses myself, pocket all the profit and be just as "safe."

Edge78
08-12-2015, 12:04 AM
As a former client, I wanted to chime in and hope that it will prove to be helpful. While the few girls I met were very nice, my opinion of the site's owner is quite low. For potential clients new to the game, it can't be helpful that one price is advertised on the website but another altogether on outdated Backpage ads, which consequently feature images of women who no longer work for them (that last part being blatantly irresponsible on numerous levels). Two former employees that I spoke to mentioned having issues with the inaccurate pricing and getting compensated properly, one of whom said she stopped being paid at all after awhile. As a human being, I found these things to be extremely off-putting. The final straw was when they decided to give my contact information to a girl that I had never even inquired about meeting (I hadn't intended to use the service again), without verifying that it was alright with me. The young lady was very cordial while being apologetic about the incident and also ended up quitting a short time later. Obviously I did not blame her at all since it was the employer's fault and not hers. When confronted, the boss became irrational and aggressive with me and expressed some bizarre justifications for the careless business practices. In closing, I'd certainly never use the service again and would highly recommend to any lady considering taking the job to explore other avenues.

Edge78
08-13-2015, 04:57 PM
I'd like to take a moment to say thank you for the thank yous I've received for my first post here. They are very much appreciated. I did a little research and came across another review. The site owner seems to have a bit of a history of losing his temper, like he did in my case, as described by contributor "markz." Please be careful with the snuggle/feet/etc. business, ladies. My love and respect to you all.

lucyamber
08-25-2015, 03:28 AM
The Snuggle Buddies LLC, is looking for kind, caring, and understanding people to become Therapeutic Snugglers across the US. No experience is required, but a warm, easy-going personality is. The part-time job is primarily platonic cuddling, snuggling, and talking to individuals.

Pay is $40 per hour, and you set your own hours. Expect 5-15 hours per week (depending on your location and your availability)
You are also paid to travel $15/hr
You can use an alias and a different city for your posting on the website

We have extensive safety checks, and have an excellent safety record.


For more details about job description and to apply please visit the link below

SnuggleCuddleTherapy.com

(Please note this is our application site, please use it for applying, and mention you saw the ad from StripperWeb forum in the comment section)




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Limit One Entry Per Eligible Person, Per Day, During the Promotion Period

RosieOh
08-31-2015, 12:55 PM
I just sent my application. Hope to hear from you soon.

audritwo
09-08-2015, 07:43 AM
Totes not a sock puppet! ::) ^^

BambiCutie
09-27-2015, 01:58 AM
Incoming wall of text. For you TL;DR folks: Nope, nope, and nope.

First, as a "rep" for the company, you look shady as hell - of course, as you've been repeating since we started questioning you, "I don't mean to offend you." You cannot consistently use proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, or sentence structuring. That does not reflect well on the legitimacy of your advertising or the company you are supposedly advertising for. Why do I say supposedly? That brings me to my next point.

You're using an entirely different URL that you admit to having copied from the parent company's website to gather application information, which includes personal info. That just screams to me that there is some degree of fraud going on. If the company is legitimately evaluating your efficiency as an employee and expects you to bring in new hires using your name, why are they not offering their hiring employees URL extensions for the parent site?

I don't even want to touch Touch Feet, but I have to. The Touch Feet website blatantly advertises what is considered by most law enforcement agencies to be prostitution with its "Enhanced Foot Fetish Service." Despite the website's overall sketchy appearance and lingo, things appeared to be legal by letter of law right up until the service description explicitly states a client can jerk off in a tissue. A twelve year old in a junior high mock trial, never mind a prosecutor after a provider is inevitably arrested, could make a convincing argument to a jury of adults that this implies (and I use the word "imply" very loosely because it's pretty damned obvious) the service is intended to provide sexual gratification to the paying client - ie, prostitution.

Do you and/or your supposed employer honestly believe that this does not cast serious doubt on the legitimacy of your second, "non-sexual" business?

As for Snuggle Buddies itself, there's a lot of issues with trying to overly prove its platonic nature (and we all know how fishy it looks when someone tries too hard to prove innocence) when making certain statements. For instance, the emphasis that clients should wear clothing that absolutely covers their genitalia. It would have been much simpler and less suspicious to state that shorts and T-shirt are the minimum. Do not condone arousal as being natural; simply state that the client should keep in mind that the service does not include sexual activity, and they may take a break or switch positions.

This is further convoluted when, in the span of three inches on my computer screen, the Pricing page says that overnight sessions are available and outcalls may be performed in hotels/motels, rather than simply "third party venues." Though it's not explicitly stated, many people will draw the conclusion that most clients will receive services from a provider of the opposite sex. The fact that overnight services are even offered on the website is an area of contention, because what do most opposite sex adults do during sleepovers? Explicitly add hotels/motels to this mix and it becomes a ticking time bomb for one of three situations to happen: providers to begin offering sexual services, law enforcement to become involved because of the potential for/existence of sexual services, and/or clients to potentially become irate about a lack of sexual services.

Furthermore, the Snuggle Buddies service's supposed benefits is problematic. On the Benefits page, the List of Benefits is stated as if these these supposed benefits will occur for the client and there is no disclaimer regarding the fact that these claims simply cannot be made under FDA guidelines. This opens the business up to an entire host of legal issues, both from unsatisfied customers who did not experience these purported benefits and from the federal government regarding fictitious claims of medical service.

Your supposed employer is also running this business very dangerously and with little to no concern for providers' welfare. Providers and clients are going to each other's homes, but the company is running no (very inexpensive for a company) backgrounds checks on either? Hello, lawsuits. After already outlining the "smells like covert prostitution" fishiness of this company, it's also not a good idea for all of the providers' faces, names, and locations to be blatantly advertised for anyone to see. Even the former provider in the AMA you posted states that people assumed she was a prostitute, and many people may be ostracized at best or even endangered at worst if someone in their community found them on a website that seems prostitution-y.

Finally, the money issues, and there are a lot so I'll just start a list:

- Too cheap to the consumer. Depending on the venue and provider, massage easily costs more than clients are being charged for this "snuggle service." This is a much more intimate service than a massage and, in my opinion, should command a higher price because of that.
- Too cheap to the provider. Again, depending on venue and provider, massage service pays better than this much more intimate, two way contact service does. This is further compounded, in my mind, by the fact that no legitimate safety measures are being taken by the company. In light of that fact, I feel the providers are inadequately compensated for the risks involved and being forced to pay out of pocket for basic safety measures they may wish to employ due to the company's obvious negligence. I'm not saying the cost should be as high as dancers or escorts are compensated, but I would sure as hell expect to be paid more than $200 (assuming the 50% cut is universal on all pricing) to spend the night in bed with a strange man who could easily rape and kill me!
- The company is accepting payment on behalf of and distributing said payment to providers, but is not issuing W2 (in the case of hiring as employees) or 1099 (in the case of hiring independent contractors) forms for those payments. Hello, IRS!
- With such shoddy financial record keeping, what's preventing providers from suing the company to hell and back with the claim (whether legitimate or falsified) that payment for services rendered was not actually received?

In closing, I'll give you credit for posting about the service on this forum. That actually is a smart business move given the physically intimate nature of the company's services and our line of work. However, you can't expect any of us to take this seriously when the company you supposedly represent is sorely mismanaged at best and you appear to be a fraud at worst.

Drop the mic..


Good laugh though.
"I’m Andrew. I am interested in culture and people. My passions involve traveling, languages, and food. I am a big believer in human contact and interaction, being how our society is increasingly focusing on tech and more interactions via devices."

"I’m Robert. I try to live my life balanced in mind and in body. Human touch, attention and compassion are essential for overall health. My experience in the health and wellness field has allowed me to truly connect with a positive impact on my community."

"Hey, I’m Holden. I’m an eccentric man-boy in touch with his sensitive side, and I have an uncanny ability to locate and touch yours. I am confident, adventurous and hysterical. I am a failed musician but a successful vegetarian."