SubSpace666
10-29-2015, 02:40 AM
At the risk of sounding like a complete asshole, I'll also add that if you're a serious, experienced hustler, then you're already making good money no matter where you're dancing. Yes, there are places where it's much harder to make money (lookin' at you, $5-dance-land AZ). Yes, there are some places where there shouldn't even be strip clubs, where even the hustliest of hustlers couldn't walk out with more than $50/shift. BUT, in the vast majority of clubs out there, you will make money in direct proportion to your appearance and sales skills.
As someone who has been in this industry for years and has worked in multiple states, I have to say that my hourly average rarely fluctuates no matter where I'm dancing. Of course, it fluctuates a bit from night to night - we all have fantastic nights and less-than-fantastic nights. I'm talking about averages here. But I've danced in a few cities now where I was told dancing wasn't worth my time - "there's no money here for anyone," "you're lucky if you walk out with $150" - and I'm consistently walking out with my same high hourly average.
So it would be helpful for many travel dancers to do some serious self-reflection before they sink money into traveling. If you're traveling because you aren't making what you'd like to be making...do you really think that it's your city that's holding you back? (Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't.) Or is it possible that something (e.g. hustle, appearance, work ethic) could be getting in the way of you reaching your full potential?
I hope this post doesn't offend anyone. I mean well. If my post saves even one industry newbie from getting eaten alive in a city like Vegas, I'm happy. :)
I kind of agree with you, but not completely. I was dancing in upstate NY for about 7 years and in the beginning I was making $400-$800 per shift no matter what shift I worked. But then, after about 3 or 4 years of dancing, the economy went to shit and I was suddenly only making $50-$400 a shift. I was working in the same exact club(s) and it just didn't matter if I was a top earner in my city or not. The money just wasn't there anymore, which is why after a while I got really fed up and pissed off and decided to move to south Florida.
Then in south Florida I was working with over 100 girls every single night and at least 60 girls during the early shifts, but I was making really good money (compared to upstate NY shit hole clubs) and I was making $300-$2000 per shift in the winter, and then in the off season I was only making about $100-500 per shift. So the season really makes a big difference and so does the economy in general, which can also differ from city to city or state to state.
I decided to travel since it is slow in Florida right now, and I went to Denver. I'll admit that I didn't get hired at either of the two most popular clubs there due to the managers being complete assholes in general, but I did work at one that is located right in downtown and another that wasn't too far from downtown, and I had some nights where I made $300-$500 but most nights was only making $100-200, and many of the girls I worked with there who were more of the typical stripper look were even saying it is very feast or famine there.I'm happy I left.
Now I'm in Vegas, and I haven't started working here yet bc I'm taking care of my audition and licensing over the next two days, but I'm really hoping I can still make decent money out here even though I'm not blonde or have my boobs done yet (I'll be getting them this spring). I have worked with over 100 girls a night in a really nice club before, so I'm hoping that Vegas won't be too different. It honestly doesn't matter to me how many girls I'm working with as long as I'm not being treated like shit by the club employees or expected to do extras. I don't mind touching as long as no one touches my pussy, but I have also used a small vibrator during dances outside of my panties or on the customer over his pants just to add a little excitement (as long as the club said it was okay first), but I do not allow men to lick me or suck on me, kiss me, finger me, etc. I'm sure with the right customer maybe I wouldn't care, but that is def a long shot bc I rarely find customers attractive enough to even consider that. Anyways, sorry to get off topic.
But yes, some factors about a dancer can mean she won't do well anywhere, but there are so many factors contributing to money potential at every club in every city....
As someone who has been in this industry for years and has worked in multiple states, I have to say that my hourly average rarely fluctuates no matter where I'm dancing. Of course, it fluctuates a bit from night to night - we all have fantastic nights and less-than-fantastic nights. I'm talking about averages here. But I've danced in a few cities now where I was told dancing wasn't worth my time - "there's no money here for anyone," "you're lucky if you walk out with $150" - and I'm consistently walking out with my same high hourly average.
So it would be helpful for many travel dancers to do some serious self-reflection before they sink money into traveling. If you're traveling because you aren't making what you'd like to be making...do you really think that it's your city that's holding you back? (Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't.) Or is it possible that something (e.g. hustle, appearance, work ethic) could be getting in the way of you reaching your full potential?
I hope this post doesn't offend anyone. I mean well. If my post saves even one industry newbie from getting eaten alive in a city like Vegas, I'm happy. :)
I kind of agree with you, but not completely. I was dancing in upstate NY for about 7 years and in the beginning I was making $400-$800 per shift no matter what shift I worked. But then, after about 3 or 4 years of dancing, the economy went to shit and I was suddenly only making $50-$400 a shift. I was working in the same exact club(s) and it just didn't matter if I was a top earner in my city or not. The money just wasn't there anymore, which is why after a while I got really fed up and pissed off and decided to move to south Florida.
Then in south Florida I was working with over 100 girls every single night and at least 60 girls during the early shifts, but I was making really good money (compared to upstate NY shit hole clubs) and I was making $300-$2000 per shift in the winter, and then in the off season I was only making about $100-500 per shift. So the season really makes a big difference and so does the economy in general, which can also differ from city to city or state to state.
I decided to travel since it is slow in Florida right now, and I went to Denver. I'll admit that I didn't get hired at either of the two most popular clubs there due to the managers being complete assholes in general, but I did work at one that is located right in downtown and another that wasn't too far from downtown, and I had some nights where I made $300-$500 but most nights was only making $100-200, and many of the girls I worked with there who were more of the typical stripper look were even saying it is very feast or famine there.I'm happy I left.
Now I'm in Vegas, and I haven't started working here yet bc I'm taking care of my audition and licensing over the next two days, but I'm really hoping I can still make decent money out here even though I'm not blonde or have my boobs done yet (I'll be getting them this spring). I have worked with over 100 girls a night in a really nice club before, so I'm hoping that Vegas won't be too different. It honestly doesn't matter to me how many girls I'm working with as long as I'm not being treated like shit by the club employees or expected to do extras. I don't mind touching as long as no one touches my pussy, but I have also used a small vibrator during dances outside of my panties or on the customer over his pants just to add a little excitement (as long as the club said it was okay first), but I do not allow men to lick me or suck on me, kiss me, finger me, etc. I'm sure with the right customer maybe I wouldn't care, but that is def a long shot bc I rarely find customers attractive enough to even consider that. Anyways, sorry to get off topic.
But yes, some factors about a dancer can mean she won't do well anywhere, but there are so many factors contributing to money potential at every club in every city....