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SubSpace666
10-29-2015, 02:40 AM
At the risk of sounding like a complete asshole, I'll also add that if you're a serious, experienced hustler, then you're already making good money no matter where you're dancing. Yes, there are places where it's much harder to make money (lookin' at you, $5-dance-land AZ). Yes, there are some places where there shouldn't even be strip clubs, where even the hustliest of hustlers couldn't walk out with more than $50/shift. BUT, in the vast majority of clubs out there, you will make money in direct proportion to your appearance and sales skills.

As someone who has been in this industry for years and has worked in multiple states, I have to say that my hourly average rarely fluctuates no matter where I'm dancing. Of course, it fluctuates a bit from night to night - we all have fantastic nights and less-than-fantastic nights. I'm talking about averages here. But I've danced in a few cities now where I was told dancing wasn't worth my time - "there's no money here for anyone," "you're lucky if you walk out with $150" - and I'm consistently walking out with my same high hourly average.

So it would be helpful for many travel dancers to do some serious self-reflection before they sink money into traveling. If you're traveling because you aren't making what you'd like to be making...do you really think that it's your city that's holding you back? (Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't.) Or is it possible that something (e.g. hustle, appearance, work ethic) could be getting in the way of you reaching your full potential?

I hope this post doesn't offend anyone. I mean well. If my post saves even one industry newbie from getting eaten alive in a city like Vegas, I'm happy. :)


I kind of agree with you, but not completely. I was dancing in upstate NY for about 7 years and in the beginning I was making $400-$800 per shift no matter what shift I worked. But then, after about 3 or 4 years of dancing, the economy went to shit and I was suddenly only making $50-$400 a shift. I was working in the same exact club(s) and it just didn't matter if I was a top earner in my city or not. The money just wasn't there anymore, which is why after a while I got really fed up and pissed off and decided to move to south Florida.

Then in south Florida I was working with over 100 girls every single night and at least 60 girls during the early shifts, but I was making really good money (compared to upstate NY shit hole clubs) and I was making $300-$2000 per shift in the winter, and then in the off season I was only making about $100-500 per shift. So the season really makes a big difference and so does the economy in general, which can also differ from city to city or state to state.

I decided to travel since it is slow in Florida right now, and I went to Denver. I'll admit that I didn't get hired at either of the two most popular clubs there due to the managers being complete assholes in general, but I did work at one that is located right in downtown and another that wasn't too far from downtown, and I had some nights where I made $300-$500 but most nights was only making $100-200, and many of the girls I worked with there who were more of the typical stripper look were even saying it is very feast or famine there.I'm happy I left.

Now I'm in Vegas, and I haven't started working here yet bc I'm taking care of my audition and licensing over the next two days, but I'm really hoping I can still make decent money out here even though I'm not blonde or have my boobs done yet (I'll be getting them this spring). I have worked with over 100 girls a night in a really nice club before, so I'm hoping that Vegas won't be too different. It honestly doesn't matter to me how many girls I'm working with as long as I'm not being treated like shit by the club employees or expected to do extras. I don't mind touching as long as no one touches my pussy, but I have also used a small vibrator during dances outside of my panties or on the customer over his pants just to add a little excitement (as long as the club said it was okay first), but I do not allow men to lick me or suck on me, kiss me, finger me, etc. I'm sure with the right customer maybe I wouldn't care, but that is def a long shot bc I rarely find customers attractive enough to even consider that. Anyways, sorry to get off topic.

But yes, some factors about a dancer can mean she won't do well anywhere, but there are so many factors contributing to money potential at every club in every city....

Ninelives
11-02-2015, 01:22 AM
I think it does matter where you dance. My whole dance career was in Vegas and I was a top earner but whenever I traveled to LA forget it! It's like my earnings were automatically cut to 1/3 of what I made in Vegas. Many girls who traveled from LA to Vegas confirmed this.

Selina M
11-02-2015, 08:49 PM
I understand what Charlie is saying and I think it boils down to more of "If you are a higher-than-average earner at one club, you probably will be at another".

BUT I don't think you can put $$ amounts to it, because there is such a huge discrepancy between pricing structures and clientele volume/spending money from city to city. You can't go from a $40/dance club full of stock brokers with stupid disposable incomes, to a $10/dance club with Joe Schmo the plumber and his extra $100 after payday, with the VIP structures probably reflecting that, and truly expect to make the same amount of money. You'll probably still be in the top earners for that club, but you won't make the same $$ amount.
(this is all assuming no regulars & no extras to 'uneven' the playing field)

zola
11-03-2015, 03:42 AM
I've been to Vegas a ton of times with my ex (a custie I seriously dated for a few years who was a sports agent... didn't have to work at all and had an unlimited credit card, it was a well needed break from dancing) and am going back to dancing (I took the past year off) in Vegas in January.

I used to be a top earner in SF but don't want to deal with alcohol clubs anymore because it's like high school, I'd like some anonymity (seriously, everyone remembers when I was still in art school and with my high school sweetheart even) and quite frankly the clubs have gone down hill. I used to pull 2k/week in the summer and I don't know any girls really making that even close to that, at the good clubs. And I went back to the nude clubs and they're a bust, even with the girls doing extras.

My rent is just too high (2k/studio) and tbh every decent stripper in SF leaves to Vegas eventually. I know it will take me a bit to get used to the hustle, and I'm nervous about being rusty but I love Vegas (tho I used to live in AZ, not looking to move to another desert) so I'm looking forward to spending more time there. Plus I have friends on the strip I can stay with.

not relevent to the original question, just stating why I'll be traveling in regards to Charlie's post

charlie61
11-03-2015, 02:19 PM
I think it does matter where you dance. My whole dance career was in Vegas and I was a top earner but whenever I traveled to LA forget it! It's like my earnings were automatically cut to 1/3 of what I made in Vegas. Many girls who traveled from LA to Vegas confirmed this.

My point was more that it doesn't make much fiscal sense to travel somewhere to dance for a week if you're already making decent money at home. If you're living in a place where dancing isn't a lucrative option, and dancing plays a significant part in your future, then you should probably move permanently to a city where you can make decent money. And if you're truly interested in travel dancing, then you should either plan on being in the new city for ~a month (to recoup expenses and have time to make a profit) and / or be sure you're traveling during a time when you're likely to make great money (e.g. during a convention or other event). I'll try to break this down into a few scenarios...

1) You're already making good money in your home town, but you'd like to make a bit more (stay put unless you have a specific reason to travel - for fun or for an event)
2) You're not making very much money in your home town, and you need to make money long-term (move to a city with higher earnings potential)
3) You're not making very much money in your home town, but you'd like to make some great money short-term (if you can hustle, go ahead and travel, preferably for longer than a week or two, and preferably during an event)

Shrugs. :)

Selina M
11-03-2015, 02:43 PM
^ exactly why I haven't bothered to hop on the travel bandwagon... School doesn't allow me to leave for more than 4-5 days. Not worth it financially, especially with the pain in the ass of traveling. Vegas could be worth a shot during the week since it would cost all of $40 in gas to go and a $20 Fremont St room. Flying somewhere? No. The serious traveling girls I know go for at least 10 days.

Honestly when I hear dancers doing things like flying from the east coast to Vegas , I think sometimes they do it more for the glamour aspect than the real financial difference. That's not a cheap flight and hotels are insane during conventions & lucrative times.

cindyrella
11-08-2015, 03:23 PM
I live in LA and the club I'm at feels sooooo slow most of the nights I'm there. I just want more people!!! But I'm afraid Vegas is going to be too overwhelming, I've only been dancing for like 2 months now... Is it worth it at the all nude clubs? I feel like there might be more people but most of them choose the all nude clubs expecting a little more.

Optimist
11-09-2015, 09:49 AM
I've been to Vegas a ton of times with my ex (a custie I seriously dated for a few years who was a sports agent... didn't have to work at all and had an unlimited credit card, it was a well needed break from dancing) and am going back to dancing (I took the past year off) in Vegas in January.

I used to be a top earner in SF but don't want to deal with alcohol clubs anymore because it's like high school, I'd like some anonymity (seriously, everyone remembers when I was still in art school and with my high school sweetheart even) and quite frankly the clubs have gone down hill. I used to pull 2k/week in the summer and I don't know any girls really making that even close to that, at the good clubs. And I went back to the nude clubs and they're a bust, even with the girls doing extras.

My rent is just too high (2k/studio) and tbh every decent stripper in SF leaves to Vegas eventually. I know it will take me a bit to get used to the hustle, and I'm nervous about being rusty but I love Vegas (tho I used to live in AZ, not looking to move to another desert) so I'm looking forward to spending more time there. Plus I have friends on the strip I can stay with.

not relevent to the original question, just stating why I'll be traveling in regards to Charlie's post

Just do a LOT of preplanning. Check out what the ladies have said here: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?198297-Spearmint-Rhino-Las-Vegas-and-Crazy-Horse-3-Las-Vegas!!

Pinksugardoll
11-22-2015, 11:21 PM
My point was more that it doesn't make much fiscal sense to travel somewhere to dance for a week if you're already making decent money at home. If you're living in a place where dancing isn't a lucrative option, and dancing plays a significant part in your future, then you should probably move permanently to a city where you can make decent money. And if you're truly interested in travel dancing, then you should either plan on being in the new city for ~a month (to recoup expenses and have time to make a profit) and / or be sure you're traveling during a time when you're likely to make great money (e.g. during a convention or other event). I'll try to break this down into a few scenarios...

1) You're already making good money in your home town, but you'd like to make a bit more (stay put unless you have a specific reason to travel - for fun or for an event)
2) You're not making very much money in your home town, and you need to make money long-term (move to a city with higher earnings potential)
3) You're not making very much money in your home town, but you'd like to make some great money short-term (if you can hustle, go ahead and travel, preferably for longer than a week or two, and preferably during an event)

Shrugs. :)

I'm a travel dancer, a top earner, a Vegas veteran and regular. This ^^^^ is excellent advice.

I fly from the South to Vegas, simply for the money. That plane ticket is an investment in myself and in this job, if you don't choose to invest in yourself you shouldn't expect to improve your earnings.

8inchshoes
11-23-2015, 04:24 PM
how is vegas in janurary/feburary ? any insights?

SidneyPrescott
11-23-2015, 04:28 PM
How is Las Vegas before thanksgiving? Lol
Sooo many questions about vegas it gets funny afterawhile :)

Pinksugardoll
11-24-2015, 01:53 PM
Someone else kind of said something similar to this earlier and I know you guys just want some insight so you can plan and get an idea of if its worth it for you financially and otherwise. But here is some perspective for you!

I used to go to Vegas every time with my one friend "N." We went a lot and we both did very well. One time our other Bff "K" joined us, it was her first time. She is beautiful and experienced as a stripper but the first day there, N and I did great and K had a terrible time, she didn't do well at all. Second day, same thing. Third day, K went in later than us, stayed really late, met one guy who took her to CR for hours. Fourth day, K did the same thing. Made almost $4k that night. She came home with much more money than us.

So I just want to tell you, anything can happen--you can do really good there or you can meet a guy who gives you more in one night than the rest of your whole trip. If you are interested, you should just give it a shot!

Novabynight
12-08-2015, 03:59 PM
thanks for all the vegas advice ladies, I have been researching and I will definitely be planning a trip down there in january for a couple weeks before winter semester starts up again here. Even if I dont do well at least i can watch cirque du soleil and work on my hustling skills. I always find that when i travel somewhere with a super competitive hustle i make way more when i get back to my home club. So either way, im not in the red right now and it could turn out that i really like dancing there. OR maybe ill hate it. Only one way to find out, and i trust in myself enough to at least make as much as ive been making in my home club. But i am doing this with no expectations, ill let you guys know how it goes