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jcharron89
05-17-2015, 06:14 PM
Hi all,

I am new here so I guess I'll introduce myself. I live in CT pretty close to the casinos and multiple colleges (prime location for this type of business.) I am 25 with a B.S. in Marketing and currently work in sales.
Why am I interested in starting an agency? Well I'm tired of having a boring job, I'd rather try to run my own business, I'm not a regular strip club goer by any means but I find this field of work interesting, and I won't try to hide it... I love talking to pretty girls and going to social events! Do what you love and love what you do right?

I am looking to start a business while working full time but I have several questions/concerns that I feel could be best answered here.

1) I am a male, would that be a huge red flag for most girls that would be potential workers of my agency? I will be fair, professional and want to have them feel comfortable with me and coming to me with issues and ideas to grow as a business.
2) I don't have experience in the adult industry, is there a good "starter's guide" anyone can recommend for creating this business?
3) Hire girls as employees or as contractors?
4) Good ideas for recruiting?

I have a bazillion other questions I could ask but I'll resist for now. Basically any tips and answers will be greatly appreciated. ;D

shanna dior
05-18-2015, 07:55 AM
If you're running an agency, how exactly are you going to be working by talking to pretty girls and going to social events? The girls will be going to the parties, and you'll mostly be talking to (potential) clients who are trying to book a party through your agency. Just something to keep in mind if that's your motivation for getting in to the industry.

As for your questions:
1. IME males run most of sex work, so not a red flag for a male to be running a private party agency.
2. The best "starter's guide" is actually getting some experience in the industry. It will go along way to knowing what kind of dancers to hire, how to run your agency, and how to handle clients. As far as I know, no one has written a guide. There's too much local variation because of laws, markets, etc.
3. Generally, you'd be splitting the fee you charge per party with the dancers (and security/drivers) and they'd keep all tips, so contractors.
4. Well, if you get some experience in the industry, you'll meet many ladies who you could recruit and would already trust you. Anything you do now is the equivalent of cold calling. You could leave flyers in dressing rooms at local strip clubs, post ads in local adult oriented magazines, and create a search engine optimized website.

Honestly though, my biggest tip is get your feet wet first. Are there any other agencies in your city? Get a job with one of them as a driver or answering the phone. It'll help you figure out what works and what doesn't, and how you can do it better. Otherwise, you're just shooting in the dark and hoping for the best.

jcharron89
05-18-2015, 09:04 AM
Thank you for the advice, it is very helpful. The problem is I don't have much start up cash so I'd be looking to do most of the work myself (booking, security, driving, coffee maker) at first. So in that sense, I would have a lot of contact with workers, at least for a while at the beginning. Plus I respect leaders who go into the trenches even if they're above it pay grade wise. That is the way I'd like to run things and be involved instead of just sitting at a computer/phone and sending people on their way.

I tried researching laws regarding this business for the state of CT but I'm having trouble finding information. I don't plan on renting an office somewhere and would rather just do everything from home, minus hosting the parties. Not sure if that's possible and I don't feel ready to contact a lawyer about it yet.

Thanks again, any other tips/advice is greatly appreciated as well

Luna66
05-18-2015, 09:15 AM
So you have no start-up money, no experience in the industry and you just want to "talk to pretty girls and go to social events"? Join the millions of other men just like you who started 'businesses' like these and failed because they got into it for completely the wrong reasons with no money or experience to back them up.

jcharron89
05-18-2015, 09:31 AM
So you have no start-up money, no experience in the industry and you just want to "talk to pretty girls and go to social events"? Join the millions of other men just like you who started 'businesses' like these and failed because they got into it for completely the wrong reasons with no money or experience to back them up.

I didn't say I have no cash, I just don't have a ton and would prefer not to get a loan. Talking to pretty girls and going to social events are not my only motivators, my location is a hot spot for major parties/events so I feel it's a good opportunity. The talking to pretty girls and social events comment was just a light hearted comment on what motivates me about the "product and service." I'm not going to start a business selling kitchen supplies, when I have no interest in the product to motivate me for success. See what I'm saying?
I appreciate the reply and not pulling any punches. I am here to learn and don't take criticism personally.

jcharron89
05-18-2015, 09:45 AM
But yes I agree experience is pretty crucial so I will be researching some legitimate companies nearby to see if I can get some insight from them. I understand the elitism, but I am genuinely just here for professional tips, advice and insight.

Nikki_Fox
05-18-2015, 09:47 AM
drug dealers who use their product " but that is not their only motivation" still have issues -

" pretty girls and socializing " why would anyone take you seriously when you make statements like this??? -

I worked for one of the National Party services and it was nothing but a pain in my a**

my advice - be a weekend driver/security and get your thrills from that - most girls can get their own business or already work with ESTABLISHED services and dont need you --- dont act like a pervy creeper and you could be a valuable asset to her -- dont quit your day job

jcharron89
05-18-2015, 10:36 AM
drug dealers who use their product " but that is not their only motivation" still have issues -

" pretty girls and socializing " why would anyone take you seriously when you make statements like this??? -

I worked for one of the National Party services and it was nothing but a pain in my a**

my advice - be a weekend driver/security and get your thrills from that - most girls can get their own business or already work with ESTABLISHED services and dont need you --- dont act like a pervy creeper and you could be a valuable asset to her -- dont quit your day job

I'm not searching for cheap thrills and no one NEEDS anything in this world other than air, food and water if you really want to bring it down to the basics. And I don't plan on quitting my day job as plenty of people work full time and run a business too.

Look I may be ignorant to this world, but I'm not a stupid person. I know I've entered the wolve's den here and I'm being polite and open as possible about my intentions. I'm not sure how I am being creepy or pervy but to each their own. But thanks for your input.

jcharron89
05-18-2015, 10:42 AM
It seems a common theme is to get some experience driving so I'll see if there's an opening at a local agency for that or a similar position.

Aurora14
05-18-2015, 11:26 AM
I'm not trying to be an ass toward you, but it seems like you are a bit confused about how businesses run.

Even if you are "looking to do most of the work myself (booking, security, driving, coffee maker) at first" you won't be "talking to pretty girls and going to social events". You would be talking customers that are primarily men and dancers that don't want to talk to you unless you are scheduling a gig or giving them money. Yes, there will be small talk and getting along is important, but as an owner you should have a professional relationship with the workers. If you are doing the driving and security you won't be hanging out and getting chummy/having a good time at the parties. You will be collecting money and ensuring the dancers' safety. To allow yourself to be too distracted can cause issues.

If you are unable to find laws and regulations for your state and/or city, you will have to suck it up and contact a lawyer. You may find the laws so strict you won't want to continue putting time or money into the business. It is important to know the laws surrounding anything sex work. There are so many grey areas it is best to have a professional explain the laws.

When starting a business you will need a decent amount of money to start. Not all advertising is free. You may need insurance. If you are driving, you will need gas and insurance for the vehicle. Tax related expenses. That is just what I can think of off the top of my head.

You think your area "is a hot spot for major parties/events", so why aren't there any other companies established and successful? If there are other companies, you will need to understand your competition anyhow, they will have more experience than you. You need to research these things. They aren't stupid piddly things that should be put off.

You need industry experience. You need some kind of business experience. You don't even know the basics.

jcharron89
05-18-2015, 12:35 PM
I understand that customers would be my main contact. I feel as if my comment on being chummy was taken to the next level. Obviously with running a business, customer relations are very important. There are other companies but their main locations are in the major cities north and south and I'm in the middle. But they do business by me. There may be others but my search showed mostly those. Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun are two of the biggest casinos in the world, you can't go there without running into atleast a few bachelor parties. Market research in this area of work isn't the easiest thing to just stumble across as I'm sure you know.

Thank you for your honest and direct input though. Law and experience are my two priorities as I continue research

Nikki_Fox
05-18-2015, 01:39 PM
when you make a statement in your introduction "pretty girls" " social activities" - saying that gives the impression that this is for thrills and hey if I make money off of it too then great

do you know how MANY men have this same agenda? You are not the first to come on here or that we have met in real life - honestly it just gets old - at this point you have brought nothing to the table - you know nothing of the business - have no money to get it off the ground - and apparently no idea where to start even if you did - even to drive you would need to be schooled - a good driver can make or break a bad situation at a party - there is one of you and more of them and they are usually drunk - you have to know when to step in / when to back off - and I would be super pissed if MY driver was socializing instead of watching my back - my belongings - for hidden or obvious cameras etc..... This isnt a social hour for a dancer - it is work and it can be very dangerous - I have been chased down in my car - had my tires slashed trying to get out - been in toe to toe confrontations with both customers and other girls --- get my point ??
The money makers in my experience have no relationship / interaction with the drivers - your comment seems more like a guy who wants to get paid to see tits and ass in action rather than a business partner/manager ---- and we are all "pretty" until the prima dona shit starts - lol - wait until you get cussed out for ruining a mans special night because your girls dont show up or they are two hours late - or they sucked - they dont look like their pictures - we thought we would run a train on her all 30 of us for 300.00 - you stole my tip money - the other girl stole my money/bra --- the girls car broke down -babysitter didnt show up-i started my period - my boyfriend left me and I want to die- blah blah blah blah ---- it is not easy money

get a bouncers job at a club - see what this lifestyle really is
get a drivers job with an agency - and in fairness to you - be careful who you work for - you run the risk of being charged with promoting prostitution as a driver - this is true whether with another company or on your own -- pays some dues bb - you will get more respect from industry workers who feel you have been there rather than an outsider who wants to profit off of us or creep

charlotte.
05-18-2015, 07:48 PM
why would being near colleges be a good thing? last time i looked college men didnt have any money and were surrounded by hot girls.

audritwo
05-18-2015, 08:00 PM
why would being near colleges be a good thing? last time i looked college men didnt have any money and were surrounded by hot girls.

Once they spend any remainder of their financial aid (which is quickly). they are useless and just take up space.

Djoser
05-19-2015, 09:35 PM
jcharron you have surely entered the wolves' den lol.

These women have seen it all, and do sometimes get tired of seeing some of the comments from some of the less enlightened guys who think it'd be great fun to get into the sex business.

I understand you were just making a light hearted comment (I've seen much worse), and it is indeed better to work in a field that is interesting. Women are definitely far more interesting than auto parts--which is why the auto parts stores usually employ good looking delivery drivers to take parts the auto repair establishments.

I am trying to think about what my motivation was for becoming a stripclub DJ, and how much of it had to do with the fact that I liked watching strippers. That was a long time ago--but it didn't take long to figure out that I didn't have TIME to watch the damned strippers--not if I wanted to keep the job anyway. And to never play at work.

:D

Getting a job as a driver is excellent advice. If you are in good shape and/or have martial arts experience, better yet--you can be a driver and provide security, and getting hired will be that much easier.

Far better to start small and do your research first. Before you invest a lot of money and effort. I know that is why you started the thread, but it'll take a lot more research than asking questions here.

I had 12 years experience as a stripclub DJ, and many years as a graphic artist, then decided it would be EASY to start a soft core solo website. Had an extremely hot model so what could go wrong...right??

Ha!

Being a cocky dumbass with a lot of money to blow, I failed to research the market or check the industry forums first, so spent a lot of time & money creating a website in an incredibly over saturated market. It ain't over yet, but I learned my lesson the hard way.

We are just trying to save you wasting time, effort & money.

miamiredhead
07-19-2016, 10:18 AM
So you have no start-up money, no experience in the industry and you just want to "talk to pretty girls and go to social events"? Join the millions of other men just like you who started 'businesses' like these and failed because they got into it for completely the wrong reasons with no money or experience to back them up.

lolllll. I love how everyone thinks they can just walk right into the industry because they love hot girls and cash.