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22lligm
07-08-2015, 10:50 AM
That must not be in the actual city of Denver. I have a realtor doing an apartment search for me and I looked at some throughout this summer and one bedrooms on average are about 1600 and up. 2 bedrooms are on average 2000. For me that's average prices because I live in Houston and apartments are about 1400 and up for a one bedroom and 1700 and up for 2 bedrooms. So those prices don't scare me but just wanted to point out that for a 2 bedroom in the city of Denver is way more than 1000 bucks.
Yeah idk it's hard looking at apartments when you're unfamiliar with the area. I'm actually leaning more towards Houston or Dallas now. Are there nice neighborhoods near the city that may be cheaper?
tuesdaymarie
07-08-2015, 02:14 PM
^Idk if you mean in Houston or Denver. But in Houston, you can find a small but decent 1br for around $1100. My last 2br apartment right off Westheimer was $1700/month, but it had all of the upgraded options. My friend had a 1br for <$1k/month right off Westheimer, but it was a shithole--mold, roaches, nasty carpet, etc.
If you want to live in a nice area outside of the city (nice parts of Katy or Cypress--the Woodlands is a little far for regularly commuting, IMO), the cost will be less per square foot, but many of the units are bigger and ultimately end up costing about the same. If you end up farther outside the loop, I would recommend looking into renting a house. It's just hard getting into the younger/fun scene the farther out you live.
22lligm
07-08-2015, 06:04 PM
Do you know about how far out those areas are? I'm not too concerned about being right in the center of Houston or anything but something reasonably close so I'm not having to commute an hour to any clubs lol. And $1100 is not bad at all. Thanks for the info.
tuesdaymarie
07-08-2015, 11:47 PM
Distance isn't necessarily the issue in Houston so much as traffic. You can drive from Katy or Cypress into downtown Houston in 20 minutes in no or light traffic. With traffic, it can take anywhere from 45 minutes to a few hours. I know a lot of people have recommended St. James as the best club, and if you map it, you'll see that it's way farther north than most other clubs. So living somewhere that's convenient for The Men's Club (Galleria area, inside the 610 loop, the heart of Houston) is totally different from living somewhere that's convenient for St. James (45N, outside the Beltway). Sorry--I wish I could be more helpful. I guess it just really depends on where you think you want to work. You can definitely time the roads most days to where you avoid a lot of traffic--yay, flexible schedules--but on the days you get it wrong, it's a total bitch.
anacol
07-09-2015, 02:15 AM
Yeah idk it's hard looking at apartments when you're unfamiliar with the area. I'm actually leaning more towards Houston or Dallas now. Are there nice neighborhoods near the city that may be cheaper?
Pretty much inside the 610 loop, average prices is what I mentioned. 1 bedroom over 1300 and 2 bedroom well over 1700. And the apartments are not very large, especially a lot of newer places are studio size. Downtown pretty much starts at studio sizes for 1700. You can find a few places cheaper than that in Houston but it will be in sketchy neighborhoods or the apartment will be old with no amenities or anything. And living outside of the 610 loop will be a nightmare for you. There's construction all over Houston and will forever be. That's just how it's always been because the city grows daily. You really don't want to live in the suburbs because getting from any of those areas, whether it be Katy, Sugarland, Pearland, the Woodlands, Humble, etc, all will be a long commute to drive into Houston. You can not get from Katy to downtown Houston in 20 minutes. That's at minimum a 35 minute drive without traffic! With traffic will take you well over an hour. The Woodlands to downtown will be a minimum 45 minute drive without traffic, Sugarland has the shortest distance into the city and is about 25 minute drive without traffic. Pearland, depending on what part you're in will take about 30 minutes or so without traffic. So as you can see, all these areas are far, and you never know what will be happening on the roadways in Houston which could quickly turn your forty five minute drive into an hour and a half or more. Everywhere in Houston takes at minimum 35 minutes to get to. Trust me, I've driven these roads for a very very long time. I know this place like the back of my hand. I've lived around the entire city as well. You will drive till you will never want to drive again. If you've ever been to LA or Chicago and driven in those places, then you'll get the idea of what Houston traffic is like.
Prettyglitter
07-09-2015, 05:25 AM
I just wanted to piggyback off Ana and say yes Houston is a major driving city. It's also extremely spread out. It will take atleast 20 minutes to get anywhere and that's without traffic LOL. Every time I go I leave never wanting to get back in the car. But I think this is how most major cities are honestly. The Woodlands , Pearland , and Cypress are nice and safe but extremely boring. Sugar land is pretty safe also. I would avoid SW Houston such as Missouri city (Mo city) because although they do have nice areas it's way too close to the hood for me. That's what I hate about Houston one block will be well off and luxurious and then there will be the trap houses literally two minutes away. if I were you I'd pick Sugar land.
anacol
07-09-2015, 06:59 AM
I just wanted to piggyback off Ana and say yes Houston is a major driving city. It's also extremely spread out. It will take atleast 20 minutes to get anywhere and that's without traffic LOL. Every time I go I leave never wanting to get back in the car. But I think this is how most major cities are honestly. The Woodlands , Pearland , and Cypress are nice and safe but extremely boring. Sugar land is pretty safe also. I would avoid SW Houston such as Missouri city (Mo city) because although they do have nice areas it's way too close to the hood for me. That's what I hate about Houston one block will be well off and luxurious and then there will be the trap houses literally two minutes away. if I were you I'd pick Sugar land.
You must mean 20 minutes to get anywhere in your community? Cause you can't get into Houston from any of the suburbs in 20 minutes. You can barely get from the Med center to the galleria area in 20 minutes. Everywhere in Houston takes at minimum 35 minutes to get to. Which mostly if you're closer to your destination, 35 minutes, elsewhere a lot longer. Literally you can live only 3 miles from where you need to go and it will easily be a good thirty minutes or more before you get there.
22lligm
07-09-2015, 11:16 AM
Wow this sounds stressful lol. But thanks so much for all the info. I think I really just need to go see the city myself and figure it out. I'm a little sad its not cheaper though! But the plus side is there are way more options for clubs. Where I am theres like a handful and most of them are really shitty and I know a lot of people here so there's only really one I can work at now.
anacol
07-09-2015, 11:24 AM
Wow this sounds stressful lol. But thanks so much for all the info. I think I really just need to go see the city myself and figure it out. I'm a little sad its not cheaper though! But the plus side is there are way more options for clubs. Where I am theres like a handful and most of them are really shitty and I know a lot of people here so there's only really one I can work at now.
Yes you need to stay in the city for a few weeks to really see how it is here. But on a serious note, you shouldn't move to a city just to work in clubs. And I'm telling you now, you will be sadly mistaken when you get here if you're coming just for the clubs. I wouldn't doubt if half of the clubs in Houston will be totally shut down soon because most of them are already closed. The glamorous bank roll days in Houston are long over.
22lligm
07-10-2015, 08:36 AM
I'm not going just for clubs I'm going for a major change of scenery I just need clubs there so I can support myself. I'm also trying to establish residency in a new state so that when I apply to grad schools I can have in-state tuition. I pretty much just need to get out of my state and see something new and I figured the East Coast would be too crazy weather wise and something like Miami would be too expensive. I don't want to live in any town where there is only one strip club and I've always loved big cities. IDK Texas just seemed to fit the criteria but I will see after I visit lol.
tuesdaymarie
07-10-2015, 11:21 AM
Ooh, what do you want to go to grad school for?
22lligm
07-10-2015, 01:05 PM
Ooh, what do you want to go to grad school for?
Physical Therapy! DPT program. I know theres a university in Houston that has a good program.
tuesdaymarie
07-10-2015, 01:31 PM
UH just became a Tier 1 school too. I finished my undergrad there a couple of years back. I liked it because it was a commuter school, and I felt like I could go, get my work done, and go home/to work. I never really wanted the "let's live in a dorm and go to frat parties!" experience, but it can be a little difficult to meet people at the same time. Since you'd be in a grad program (smaller classes around people with at least one big thing in common), I bet it would be easier. I actually met my boyfriend in my upper level classes there--I think people mostly get swallowed up in undergrad freshmen 101 classes, you know? If you end up visiting Houston and want to grab dinner or something, let me know! I'm excited for you.
charlie61
07-10-2015, 05:57 PM
Wait....Houston?!! :O
:ill:
There's nothing wrong with it per se. I'm just surprised that you're choosing to move there when there are so many other options that seem better, even within Texas itself. I'd move to Dallas before I'd move to Houston. I went there for business once, and many people referred to it as "the armpit of Texas."
charlie61
07-10-2015, 05:57 PM
Wait....Houston?!! :O
:ill:
There's nothing wrong with it per se. I'm just surprised that you're choosing to move there when there are so many other options that seem better, even within Texas itself. I'd move to Dallas before I'd move to Houston. I went there for business once, and many people referred to it as "the armpit of Texas."
tuesdaymarie
07-11-2015, 05:13 PM
We admittedly have great food and shopping, plus tons of diversity. I honestly prefer Houston over Austin because I hate all the damn hippies, though Austin is 1000x prettier. I think I would like Dallas more, but I've never stayed there for an extended period of time.
GothicStripper
07-11-2015, 06:40 PM
Dallas is wayyyy better than Houston in terms of dancing. I work in Houston and only 5 clubs are worth working at. 2 require a license, the others don't. Austin isn't too good for dancing either, but they are more stage-oriented than we are.
22lligm
07-12-2015, 01:35 PM
UH just became a Tier 1 school too. I finished my undergrad there a couple of years back. I liked it because it was a commuter school, and I felt like I could go, get my work done, and go home/to work. I never really wanted the "let's live in a dorm and go to frat parties!" experience, but it can be a little difficult to meet people at the same time. Since you'd be in a grad program (smaller classes around people with at least one big thing in common), I bet it would be easier. I actually met my boyfriend in my upper level classes there--I think people mostly get swallowed up in undergrad freshmen 101 classes, you know? If you end up visiting Houston and want to grab dinner or something, let me know! I'm excited for you.
Oh cool! Actually the school I was referring to is an all women's university someone had told me about. I should see if UH has a DPT program. I do need multiple options in case I don't end up getting in where I want. And yes I will definitely PM you when I end up visiting!
22lligm
07-12-2015, 01:37 PM
Wait....Houston?!! :O
:ill:
There's nothing wrong with it per se. I'm just surprised that you're choosing to move there when there are so many other options that seem better, even within Texas itself. I'd move to Dallas before I'd move to Houston. I went there for business once, and many people referred to it as "the armpit of Texas."
Well nothing is set in stone I'm just going by how I feel and what I think I would like, but I will ultimately decide after I visit of course. Who knows maybe I'll end up hating Houston and loving Dallas, or hating both and going to Denver! lol
charlie61
07-12-2015, 03:49 PM
Well nothing is set in stone I'm just going by how I feel and what I think I would like, but I will ultimately decide after I visit of course. Who knows maybe I'll end up hating Houston and loving Dallas, or hating both and going to Denver! lol
I totally hear you.
Just some ramblings...
It's kind of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity you have here. Not many people ever reach a point in their lives (for financial reasons, family reasons, etc.) where they can pull out a map of the U.S. and choose where to live. Far more people experience cross-country moves less out of choice and more out of external pressures - a family medical emergency that compels you to move, a career change, etc. Far less questioning goes into those moves because the location is predetermined: if you're going to a certain school across the country, you'll need to live in a specific city, and if you're helping out family, you'll know exactly where to look for your next apartment.
It's a ton of stress and pressure - I would know, I've done it twice! It's both pricey and emotionally exhausting to make such a huge move. And it goes beyond "I'm moving to X city": you need to figure out where you'll be living in your next city. You need to figure out which parts of the city are dangerous, which parts are more affordable and why, where your next grocery store is, blah blah blah. So much stress! I remember poring over statistics and maps for months, even getting to points where I was so stressed about how many options there were that I developed a case of the fuck-its and temporarily decided to stay put (despite not liking where I was living).
But it's a decision that will be immensely rewarding if you follow your gut and diligently put the time and effort into researching your decision. Because once you move, you'll know that you chose to live there, and that's an incredibly empowering feeling. You'll say "Yeah, I knew when I chose to move here that x, y, and z would kind of suck, but I chose this damn city for reasons that are far more important to me." Hella empowering.
I'll also mention that it does take some serious step-back-and-think analysis to discover the difference between factors that truly impact your life / happiness and factors that are less important to you. Some people live and die by weather, for example, so living in a more extreme environment (very rainy, very hot, very cold, very dry) could make or break their quality of life. Other people adjust to whatever weather the region has to offer, because their happiness is more based on other factors (financial, cultural, familial, etc.). Explore questions related to your quality of life. What factors actually impact your happiness, and what factors are you taking into consideration that don't actually matter much to you? What factors haven't you considered yet? Are you placing too much weight on one factor just because it seems important, but really isn't, and too little weight on another factor that seems unimportant, but really is? You get the idea. :)
Elektra Luxx
07-12-2015, 10:44 PM
Wait....Houston?!! :O
:ill:
There's nothing wrong with it per se. I'm just surprised that you're choosing to move there when there are so many other options that seem better, even within Texas itself. I'd move to Dallas before I'd move to Houston. I went there for business once, and many people referred to it as "the armpit of Texas."
I've never heard Houston referred to as "the armpit of Texas", that's a bit harsh to me. I will say the traffic is a nightmare. I'm in San Antonio area and I recently went to the Houston/Clear Lake area and spent hours in bumper to bumper traffic. The toll roads are expensive, during a weekend, I spent no less than $20 dollars on tolls. Crime is rampant, I would definitely think about relocating to Houston.
charlie61
07-12-2015, 10:55 PM
I've never heard Houston referred to as "the armpit of Texas", that's a bit harsh to me. I will say the traffic is a nightmare. I'm in San Antonio area and I recently went to the Houston/Clear Lake area and spent hours in bumper to bumper traffic. The toll roads are expensive, during a weekend, I spent no less than $20 dollars on tolls. Crime is rampant, I would definitely think about relocating to Houston.
Yeah - those weren't my words!
There's a huge difference between "X city is an okay place to live" and "I'd move across the country just to live in X city." Ya know? That's more what I was trying to emphasize there.
Elektra Luxx
07-12-2015, 11:35 PM
Yeah - those weren't my words!
There's a huge difference between "X city is an okay place to live" and "I'd move across the country just to live in X city." Ya know? That's more what I was trying to emphasize there.
Oh no, I know those weren't your words. I knew what you meant and I agree Dallas is much nicer than Houston. There are much nicer places to live in Texas than Houston, but if someone wanted to go where the money is, Houston is the place.
22lligm
07-13-2015, 10:10 AM
I totally hear you.
Just some ramblings...
It's kind of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity you have here. Not many people ever reach a point in their lives (for financial reasons, family reasons, etc.) where they can pull out a map of the U.S. and choose where to live. Far more people experience cross-country moves less out of choice and more out of external pressures - a family medical emergency that compels you to move, a career change, etc. Far less questioning goes into those moves because the location is predetermined: if you're going to a certain school across the country, you'll need to live in a specific city, and if you're helping out family, you'll know exactly where to look for your next apartment.
It's a ton of stress and pressure - I would know, I've done it twice! It's both pricey and emotionally exhausting to make such a huge move. And it goes beyond "I'm moving to X city": you need to figure out where you'll be living in your next city. You need to figure out which parts of the city are dangerous, which parts are more affordable and why, where your next grocery store is, blah blah blah. So much stress! I remember poring over statistics and maps for months, even getting to points where I was so stressed about how many options there were that I developed a case of the fuck-its and temporarily decided to stay put (despite not liking where I was living).
But it's a decision that will be immensely rewarding if you follow your gut and diligently put the time and effort into researching your decision. Because once you move, you'll know that you chose to live there, and that's an incredibly empowering feeling. You'll say "Yeah, I knew when I chose to move here that x, y, and z would kind of suck, but I chose this damn city for reasons that are far more important to me." Hella empowering.
I'll also mention that it does take some serious step-back-and-think analysis to discover the difference between factors that truly impact your life / happiness and factors that are less important to you. Some people live and die by weather, for example, so living in a more extreme environment (very rainy, very hot, very cold, very dry) could make or break their quality of life. Other people adjust to whatever weather the region has to offer, because their happiness is more based on other factors (financial, cultural, familial, etc.). Explore questions related to your quality of life. What factors actually impact your happiness, and what factors are you taking into consideration that don't actually matter much to you? What factors haven't you considered yet? Are you placing too much weight on one factor just because it seems important, but really isn't, and too little weight on another factor that seems unimportant, but really is? You get the idea. :)
Wow, thank you so much for that Charlie! Yeah you are definitely right this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I posted in the Confessions thread that all the planning and all my options (the entire country pretty much lol) were stressing me out! I think I will write down a list of things that are most important and least important to me and go from there. It's hard to think of cities and narrow a list down when you haven't visited any of those places before though. I've been to NYC and loved it but figured it would be way too expensive and the same goes for Miami. Other than that I haven't really been anywhere that I would want to live. So I've just been going by what I hear/read from other people and where I THINK I would like, ya know? I don't want to waste money visiting numerous cities so I've picked two I could see in probably the same week.
This definitely is a stressful thing to do. I have until mid August to figure it out because then I'm officially done with school and will be able to go anywhere! Thanks again for your post.
22lligm
07-13-2015, 10:14 AM
I've never heard Houston referred to as "the armpit of Texas", that's a bit harsh to me. I will say the traffic is a nightmare. I'm in San Antonio area and I recently went to the Houston/Clear Lake area and spent hours in bumper to bumper traffic. The toll roads are expensive, during a weekend, I spent no less than $20 dollars on tolls. Crime is rampant, I would definitely think about relocating to Houston.
Does Houston have good public transportation like in NYC or boston or something? When I visited those places we barely ever drove we just took subways around everywhere. But I know some cities have public transit that isn't the best option (like my city.. everyone drives).
tuesdaymarie
07-13-2015, 10:23 AM
^An unfortunate "hell no" to the public transportation.
22lligm
07-13-2015, 10:45 AM
^An unfortunate "hell no" to the public transportation.
Dammit I was hoping it would be a yes lol
GothicStripper
07-13-2015, 01:10 PM
Dammit I was hoping it would be a yes lol
Yeah public transportation is awful. Though I was able to manage using it to work for the first 6 months I danced. We have a lot of cabs and Uber is definitely prominent since it's a big city.
SnuffleUffleGrass
07-14-2015, 08:47 AM
Denver has excellent public transportation options btw.
charlie61
07-14-2015, 09:22 AM
I highly recommend Google streetview to get a sense of a city. "Walk" around in random spots. Obviously great for apartment shopping as well. A city might be gorgeous downtown, but if you'll be living twenty minutes away, you need to know what that will feel like too!
anacol
07-14-2015, 12:12 PM
Does Houston have good public transportation like in NYC or boston or something? When I visited those places we barely ever drove we just took subways around everywhere. But I know some cities have public transit that isn't the best option (like my city.. everyone drives).
If you don't have a car living in any city in Texas, you will be stranded! Your life can't work here without a car. The city is far too large and spread out. The only thing they have is a Light rail train in the downtown area and metro buses. But the buses only go so far out into Houston. It doesn't run into the suburban areas. Houston doesn't have a good public transportation system here, it doesn't exist.
SubSpace666
08-21-2015, 03:09 AM
^ Florida is exactly the same. I have many friends who live in Houston and like it. I've traveled all over the US and liked it. Would I want to drive there? Hell no. Only place I traveled I wouldn't want to live is outskirts of Boston, Reno Or St. Louis. I liked Denver, Dallas, Ny, Chicago( I'm from there) Nola, Houston,. Oh and never live in Phoenix. But also I'm sure you're factoring in money as well as climate? Denver can snow anytime. So it depends. I made a lot in Denver but VCG managers are assholes. Do you want to deal with that? Houston had nicer club mangement. And I'd say doing a search would be relevant. Some of us on this board take the time to help countless people through pms and giving info on different clubs. Simply asking a question on where you should move on stripperweb shouldn't be a deciding factor on where you'll go. I certainly would hope not. lol.
what do you mean they are assholes? I'm going to Denver to visit friends, but I'm also going to work. Do you have any club suggestions? Also, do you think there might be an easier time in Boulder, or no, bc it's a college town?
michele11
08-21-2015, 06:17 AM
^ you'd have to experince them. lol. college boys are broke kids. I'd try Diamond, penthouse, laboheme. If you have trouble at those ( girls here say they don't hire tatted ladies). That is false. I traveled in for 7 years. But if you have an issue at those clubs try platinum 84 or shotgun willis. With the last a last resort.
22lligm
08-23-2015, 01:22 PM
I decided to try Texas this weekend and Denver will be the next city I try probably. I hope Dallas is good!
Metal Vanity
08-25-2015, 01:06 PM
Go to texas, but not to the border lol --- that is, if your out to make money. Dallas is a great place to dance because there is a lot of wealthy and middle class people in east/central Texas. I was raised there, but now I live in Vegas ($$$). There's a lot of oil field workers (younger guys) that love to blow their money young sexy women. You can also easily get regulars willing to spend money on you. I'm sure there are plenty of threads on the clubs in the Dallas area, but I've found its easier to make money in Dallas and Las Vegas, and I've worked in 6 different states. Those are my 2 favorite $ towns.
As for Colorado, I don't know that you would make a lot on a regular basis. I've never worked there, I'm only speculating. Most of Colorado is mountainous and countryside type living, with the larger cities/towns now gearing to the younger/college crowd. Especially since marijuana has been legalized everywhere in Colorado, I don't think the outlook would be better there. However, it is an incredibly beautiful place to visit, ad I would love to live there at least once, but not while dancing.
I'd say stay in Cali or go to Texas. I just moved from Cali because Vegas is just retarded when it comes to making money, and making ALOT. If you can, make a coiple trips out here before you move and make a few grand to visit both places and decide for yourself =)
michele11
08-25-2015, 03:09 PM
Go to texas, but not to the border lol --- that is, if your out to make money. Dallas is a great place to dance because there is a lot of wealthy and middle class people in east/central Texas. I was raised there, but now I live in Vegas ($$$). There's a lot of oil field workers (younger guys) that love to blow their money young sexy women. You can also easily get regulars willing to spend money on you. I'm sure there are plenty of threads on the clubs in the Dallas area, but I've found its easier to make money in Dallas and Las Vegas, and I've worked in 6 different states. Those are my 2 favorite $ towns.
As for Colorado, I don't know that you would make a lot on a regular basis. I've never worked there, I'm only speculating. Most of Colorado is mountainous and countryside type living, with the larger cities/towns now gearing to the younger/college crowd. Especially since marijuana has been legalized everywhere in Colorado, I don't think the outlook would be better there. However, it is an incredibly beautiful place to visit, ad I would love to live there at least once, but not while dancing.
I'd say stay in Cali or go to Texas. I just moved from Cali because Vegas is just retarded when it comes to making money, and making ALOT. If you can, make a coiple trips out here before you move and make a few grand to visit both places and decide for yourself =)
You can bank in Denver. I traveled in to work at Diamond Cabaret for 8 years....
Jessicainnv
08-28-2015, 03:48 PM
I hear how burned out you are on giving thankless newbs advice on where they should travel / move. I'm honestly amazed by how generous you are with information. It sounds like you're taking a break from giving your expertise away for free, which I fully support!
I think the OP (who is a valued member here on SW and contributes regularly) is just looking to gain some perspective for her situation, not for us to make the decision for her.
As a newbie on Stripperweb.com, a site in which I really like and am hoping to contribute a lot to in the future, I wouldn't say that I am reading or posting questions/reviews like this because I want someone to do the research on a club FOR me. Instead, I am looking for a firsthand experience from a dancer who's been in contact with a particular club or area recently and can give me feedback on the vibe of the place. Of course, clubs are NOT a one size fits all type of situation. There are many things that one needs to factor in before making a trip over to a new club (which can sometimes be very costly and not always financially rewarding).
The most important things to consider are a girl's particular body type (curvy, BB, super skinny, tattoos, etc) and even MORE importantly and often less discussed is race! It is well known that some clubs will not hire a BB Latina girl or a black girl unless she is the hottest of a perfect 10). Not only are these things NOT discussed openly, they also aren't listed in the club's reviews which usually only include how busy it is, how hot the girls are, and the milage factor (if it is a guy's site like TUSCL). On this site, the girls seem to just discuss the dancer fees, the hustle factor, and the personality of the management. While these things are definitely important to research yourself, a review is really not all inclusive without knowing if it fits your personal type.
A perfect example of the is the SRLV where I made great money for years but also faced a very hard time with the management since I am a person of color and NOT a perfect 10. Throughout my 10 year career so far, I have found that as long as I can get hired at a place, I know I will make great money as I am usually a top seller at just about every club I have ever worked. Though again, since I am mixed (black and white) I have faced some interesting challenges from management that other girls (namely white girls) have not or will not ever experience. Although, having said that, not every club caters to one type of client or refuses to hire only one type of girl. Something like this should most definitely be considered in my opinion, and feedback like that from another dancer is always helpful. Who wants to travel all the way to Mass only to find out that they won't be hired just because they have caramel colored skin (which is beautiful and sometimes wish mine was a little darker)?
I certainly can't speak for everyone, however; when I am searching for a new club, I not only look at reviews on several different websites (including Yelp even though the patrons who post there are just cheap beer drinkers who don't spend $$$ on dances), but I also ask around to other dancers in addition as to get a more personal review of the place in question.
I don't mean to throw you under the bus by addressing your response publicly, however; I just wanted to offer another perspective to questions like the one from the OP. I personally would hope that the long-term subscribers to this site are not getting annoyed each time I post a new question about their personal experience with a new club I may be checking out. Since I am still searching for a club that suits me best (not only in terms of money since I have already found that, but also in how comfortable I feel with the place), I am thinking about starting a new threat in the near future. As of now, I am starting to get the sense that the west coast is not where I will enjoy working the most.
Again, I am a newbie to Stripperweb.com and I hope I will not annoy the veteran subscribers with my presence here. :-/
Jessicainnv
08-28-2015, 04:31 PM
Go to texas, but not to the border lol --- that is, if your out to make money. Dallas is a great place to dance because there is a lot of wealthy and middle class people in east/central Texas. I was raised there, but now I live in Vegas ($$$). There's a lot of oil field workers (younger guys) that love to blow their money young sexy women. You can also easily get regulars willing to spend money on you. I'm sure there are plenty of threads on the clubs in the Dallas area, but I've found its easier to make money in Dallas and Las Vegas, and I've worked in 6 different states. Those are my 2 favorite $ towns.
As for Colorado, I don't know that you would make a lot on a regular basis. I've never worked there, I'm only speculating. Most of Colorado is mountainous and countryside type living, with the larger cities/towns now gearing to the younger/college crowd. Especially since marijuana has been legalized everywhere in Colorado, I don't think the outlook would be better there. However, it is an incredibly beautiful place to visit, ad I would love to live there at least once, but not while dancing.
I'd say stay in Cali or go to Texas. I just moved from Cali because Vegas is just retarded when it comes to making money, and making ALOT. If you can, make a coiple trips out here before you move and make a few grand to visit both places and decide for yourself =)
You can bank in Denver. I traveled in to work at Diamond Cabaret for 8 years....
Clearly the point here is that every girl might have a differently city/state where they will make the most money. For me that is Reno, however; most girls would laugh at me right in my face if I told them that. However, I consistently make good money almost every time I go to work ($600 - $800 being only an average night for me). I am only thinking about leaving because it's a hard hustle and I'm getting tired. I also made good money in Vegas but the management was extremely rude to me (keep in mind that I am a mixed girl). When I saw Mental Vanity's pic, it was immediately clear to me why she loved Vegas so much. Not only is she blonde but she is also the girl next door type, which is the reputation that SR was built on. If that is true for you, Vegas will definitely be good for you.
If a girl's looks are different than that, or if she finds herself competing with a million other girls in her club who look the same as her, she should definitely check out the busier places with high paying customers, but also keep in mind the vibe of the place and what type of girls the club is tying to attract before she makes the trip out. I have learned that the hard way many times. For instance, I have always had a very different experience when auditioning and getting hired throughout the years but IF I am hired, I've notice that I have consistently been one of the top paying (or at least a very well paid) girls at just about every club I have ever worked. Of course, I believe that every club should have at least one girl who looks different from the rest or the customers might get bored occasionally, but that's jut my opinion. That's also why I think I've made so much, in addition to my ability to put on the hard hustle of course.
Cheers ladies. I hope we all have a productive w$$kend! ;-)
michele11
08-28-2015, 07:11 PM
If you are a top girl and only expect to make 250. You pm'd me. I gave you info on different clubs and din't even get a thanks. Also you seem to know and give others hints to make more money and say you are a top earner and make 1000 a night consistenly. Not at wild orchid or mens. There are no guys to hustle. I can work in slower clubs and clubs with 150-200 girls and am a top earner. I find it weirs that you say you average 1000. But would travel anywhere and be happy with 250. I think you got plenty of responses and well as I took the time to pm you....
22lligm
09-01-2015, 01:38 PM
Omg I loved Dallas I want to move there.
Jessicainnv
09-03-2015, 02:34 AM
If you are a top girl and only expect to make 250. You pm'd me. I gave you info on different clubs and din't even get a thanks. Also you seem to know and give others hints to make more money and say you are a top earner and make 1000 a night consistenly. Not at wild orchid or mens. There are no guys to hustle. I can work in slower clubs and clubs with 150-200 girls and am a top earner. I find it weirs that you say you average 1000. But would travel anywhere and be happy with 250. I think you got plenty of responses and well as I took the time to pm you....
Hugh?!!!? OMG! I am so sorry if I have offended you. That was not my intention AT ALL! I honestly had no idea that you were waiting for me to send you a personal thank you message. I am definitely thankful for all of the responses that I have received, including yours, however; I have not gotten back to everyone yet because I have been tired and a little stressed. I am running behind on several things, including my responses, which is entirely due to me being stressed out about wanting to find a new club to work at. It has nothing to do with me being ungrateful for suggestions! Again, please accept my apologies as I honestly did not realize that you were waiting for a response.
I have just bought a plane ticket to Texas and am kind of concentrating on that at the moment but still behind on a few emails. However, I will take the time to send you a personal email tomorrow as I in no way intended to offend anyone.
In regards to my income, I do feel that that is a personal matter and should not be the business of anyone except for me. The only reason I mentioned it is because even with that large amount (which could be a small amount to some, but not me), I am not happy at my club. To address your idea that I make $1000 per night, that is simply not true. In fact, I do not believe I said that. What I intended to say was, staying all night on weekends usually yields $1200 or more and I occasionally make that during the week if I have a good customer. Usually though, I make about $600 - $800 during the week on a regular basis and about $1200 - $1500 on the weekends if I work all night. Again (and I mean no offense by this), I do not feel that the amount I make is anyone's business. My example was only to show that large amounts of money has not brought me happiness. Instead, I am realizing that I would rather work at a club that I enjoy hanging out at and making only $250 - $300 easily as opposed to hustling HARD all night to make $600 - $1500. While that is great money, I often find that I am tired and miserable the next day.
Anyway, I hope you are having a great evening, Michelle11. Please understand that I was unaware that my lack of response was upsetting to you. Hopefully after reading my post above, I hope you will understand that I am just stressed at the moment and not happy at my club. I have been busy trying to find a new place that I enjoy much more and my lack of response really should not be taken personally... I was actually kind of surprised to read that. Perhaps I just do not understand the stripper etiquette on this site. Understandably, I am new to this website and am still trying to get a feel for the place.
Like I said though, I will take the time to send you a PM tomorrow but if I do not respond after that, it is just because I might be tired after my flight. I am going to fly to Texas this weekend and give that a try. From what I am guessing, I might make money on the stage in Texas and hopefully won't feel I have to hustle as hard.
Until tomorrow, Michelle11, I hope you are having a great night and TTYS. XOXOXOX
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Jess
michele11
09-03-2015, 09:11 AM
No problem Jess. It was more the fact I get at least 3-5 pms or more a week ( as I strictly travel). So i'm bombarded by girls who've little posts except wanting info. A quick thank you after I give all the info is just courteous and it's not you it's 100's of girls over the years but when I ( rarely ever) ask I never get a response.I wish you like in finding a club.
Jessicainnv
09-03-2015, 04:45 PM
Michele11,
After thinking about it, I realize that you are right. Sending a quick thank you note is the polite thing to do and I am glad you brought that to my attention. Especially in regards to giving out coveted club info. I also want to apologize for the other girls who have not responded to you because, honestly, that is just plain rude. Obviously, our business doesn't attract the kindest girls in the world, but for those of us who have been in the biz a while know that acting like a total B- doesn't get you very far.
I would love to give you any information that I can and please feel free to ask me through a PM anytime. However, based on what I can see, it seems that you either have more experience than me or you just know a few tricks that I have not learned yet. If I can be of help in any way though, please feel free to message your questions to me. I believe in paying it forward, especially in this biz.
Anyway, I just sent you a PM but I also wanted to note here that I do apologize for not responding earlier. I definitely should have followed up as your email was very kind and helpful. My message was short because I am running late today. I will PM you more later. Until then, have a great night $$$$$! Lol. TTYL :-)
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Jess
NYC.Bianca
09-10-2015, 04:42 AM
I have danced in both Denver, Colorado; & Houston and Austin, Texas; regularly. So here is my advice.
Colorado:
There are really only 3 clubs in the metro area worth your time: Diamond, La Boheme & Shotgun Willies.
I have worked at all 3.
Diamond Cabaret ~ A gentlemen's club; very repore, seniority & VIP regulars heavy. Meaning that unless you are good friends with management, cocktail waitresses & other top hustlers; you're nights will be hit or miss. However, there is always money here in some form or another, I have never personally made less than $500 (which is a very bad night for me) here.
Also, upselling VIP by closing time and doing after-hours at After Dark upstairs is THE BEST, I did this while I was at La Boheme too... as usually you can stay with the same customer until 4am & it's a great way to end the night on weekends. At Diamond & Diamond After Dark I would say is known a bit for having extras, so I did find it a bit harder to make my nightly averages (1-2k) here while still being very clean & professional. You will be solicited constantly by customers (not like that's anything new in this industry), and unfortunately most of the top earning girls here are not clean dancers & all have sugar daddies. Needless to say, I did well during the several months I gave Diamond a shot.
La Boheme ~ A gentleman's club. USE to be a great club, but has since turned into a shit hole. All the hustlers I know have left. Still has a few handfuls of decent club regulars left I'm sure, and it can be pretty drug/extras heavy on really bad nights; the convention crowd is really the ONLY thing that keeps this club viable half the year. BUT... if you are in with the cocktail waitresses and management you can really make great money. I have had my highest earning nights at this club, but it can be very slow, full of drama and very feast or famine because most girls here only do $1-300 a night if that. So proceed with caution, and have a back-up club.
Shotguns ~ A showclub. Cleanest club in Denver when it comes to extras (in the club anyhow, there are definitely prostitutes that work here..), but I do love that I can make my nightly goals & averages here fairly easily and only by showing my boobs. You will make most of your money on stage & in dances. Sometimes VIP if you can get your customer to buy bottle service. The money is made in more frequent smaller quantities here; but it is the same money as Labo or Diamond, just made different. If you are good on stage and with the pole this is a great club for you. They have over 200 dancers contracted that all work weekends and so it's ridiculous to try and schedule sometimes, expect to be working with 80-100 dancers on weekend nights, and also make your schedule a week in advance. They are very rules heavy club; but if you're willing to put in the work and are a genuinely good hustler there is always money to be made here. Typically, anyhow.
Penthouse ~ Also wanted to briefly mention there is Penthouse if you don't like any of these other clubs, it is creepy and extras heavy and slow. But some girls do ok; however I would stay away due to it's reputation.
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Texas:
I have danced in Austin & Houston; if you are very beautiful and a hustler you will do well.
Palazio ~ A Gentleman's club. Based in Austin, really love this place, use to go down here once a month for almost a year for extra money; even during the slow season I did well. Can be extra's heavy during day shift, and I have had my moments of needing to deal with shitty customers before but over all it is awesome. Love the management & dj's and everyone is very sweet and nice typically. I think I'm gonna go back soon... really love this place.
Perfect Ten ~ Showclub more or less, but still pretty busy and decent money. Only worked a couple nights here.
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The only club I could decide on in Houston after looking at many was Men's Club, which is SUPER nice; I did really like it here, but didn't make enough to go back.
(I have heard nothing but how extras heavy and prostitution rampant Houston is, so I think finding a consistent club there these days is almost impossible.)
Men's Club ~ A gentleman's club. Very nice club, they are very picky with who they hire, which I personally prefer. However I only worked 2 or 3 nights here, because I quickly found that it is a fairly drug & extras heavy club. The GM has 'say' in what girls go to Private VIP rooms with druggie club regulars, kind of fucked up. But I am super self-sufficient and still pulled all my own customers into VIP and did very well; however $800-1200 a night isn't worth me travel dancing, so I didn't go back. But like the experience.
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Personally, i think Texas is a bigger money state and better for traveling as you have 3 major cities to choose from; rather than 3 mediocre clubs in Denver.
But it comes down to personal preference.
sophiahou
09-11-2015, 10:19 AM
You were making 800-1200 clean at mens club? lol You must be a 10 out of 10 perfect all around and irresistable
NYC.Bianca
09-11-2015, 04:46 PM
thanks sophiahou! I think intelligence, personality & presentation are part of it as well but I am typically the hottest girl at any club I have worked at, I am not trying to sound egotisitical but those nights at Men's Club where literally just sitting and talking and being bought off all night. I just know how to spot the men that have money and I genuinely connect with & will spend whatever amount just to talk to me. My hustle is very different than many other girls.
Jessicainnv
09-11-2015, 10:37 PM
You were making 800-1200 clean at mens club? lol You must be a 10 out of 10 perfect all around and irresistable
Sorry ladies. I deleted my previous comment because I realized that the above comment probably wasn't directed toward me.