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xStacey
07-09-2015, 09:52 AM
I don't want to get into too much details here, but I was really disappointed by how things turned out. He was looking for a girl to date and have sex with for free. I thought he would be different from other customers but nope.

SnuffleUffleGrass
07-09-2015, 11:58 AM
I don't want to get into too much details here, but I was really disappointed by how things turned out. He was looking for a girl to date and have sex with for free. I thought he would be different from other customers but nope.

They always are. Nothing is free in this world. I think rich boys forget that.

Flickdreams
07-09-2015, 11:19 PM
I'm sorry it was disappointing but I'm glad you were able to catch him at his game before it went any further.

It was a really helpful thread to have up- as a reminder that even the most wealthy can still be as extras hunting as the cheapest sweatpants boner man.... which is why keeping our wits about us in this industry, and having the SW support community can help guide us to make better choices- even when we are being blinded by the lure of big bucks (not you personally OP).

miss.a.p1600
07-10-2015, 02:11 PM
Ho Tactics Rule: " just because a man is rich doesn't mean you're going to get in his pockets there are millionaires who wouldn't buy a bitch a bottle of water in the desert so don't think because he has it to give that he would give it"

Second what flickdreams said. You are wise to have gotten out once you realize you both wanted different things and he wasn't trying to spend.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out as you expected. Well - On to the next

xStacey
07-10-2015, 02:37 PM
Ho Tactics Rule: " just because a man is rich doesn't mean you're going to get in his pockets there are millionaires who wouldn't buy a bitch a bottle of water in the desert so don't think because he has it to give that he would give it"

Second what flickdreams said. You are wise to have gotten out once you realize you both wanted different things and he wasn't trying to spend.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out as you expected. Well - On to the next

Seriously, I've had customers who had much less money but were more generous, some were spending a little beyond their means.

Prettyglitter
07-10-2015, 09:24 PM
What let you know that he wanted it for free?

xStacey
07-11-2015, 06:40 AM
His gift was cheap and actually cost less than what he pays to spend an hour at the club with me, did not talk about an arrangement or offer to compensate me for my time at all and he was saying it's refreshing being with someone who's not with him for his money!

Etain_
07-11-2015, 07:04 AM
Do you think he could have you on the wife track or is he just looking for sex?

xStacey
07-11-2015, 07:20 AM
He's divorced with kids and said he's too busy for a girlfriend so it was obviously just for sex. It seemed to be his plan all along.

Flickdreams
07-11-2015, 11:05 AM
His gift was cheap and actually cost less than what he pays to spend an hour at the club with me, did not talk about an arrangement or offer to compensate me for my time at all and he was saying it's refreshing being with someone who's not with him for his money!

Wish you'd said, I know what you mean! It's refreshing to B with someone whose not after me for my body! But seriously...

kaninchen
07-11-2015, 11:15 AM
Wish you'd said, I know what you mean! It's refreshing to B with someone whose not after me for my body! But seriously...

Ha! I love this line! Although, sadly, in my experience, guys will just respond with something like, "Yeah, I think you have a fantastic personality. And you're so intelligent. That's what I like about you. I'm not at all like those other guys who just want you for your body. ... Although you are stunning. Wanna have sex now?"

:spin: Suuuuuure bro.

xStacey
07-11-2015, 11:44 AM
Lol he actually said right after "It must be the same for you, hard to know if someone is talking to you for who you are or just because you're beautiful. I love spending time with you, you're a good person and it's rare" ::).

Vyanka
07-11-2015, 04:37 PM
He should just go on Tinder for that shit, instead of a damn strip club.

ETA - Again. Men wanting that forbidden pricey fruit that we are, for free. They wouldn't get that rush from Tinder girls who are willing to give up for free and easy. Sleeping with a stripper to these men is a goal they can brag about, especially if they didn't have to pay.

kortneykay
07-12-2015, 01:06 PM
Maybe I'm a manipulating bitch but OP, I would've "worked" on him a bit more enough to become a paid girlfriend at least. He bought you a present; cheap, but he bought it. I definitely think there's room for improvement. I would've put the pussy on ultimate lock down and strung him along until I got him exactly where I wanted him. He has two kids so I assume he was married at one time. That tells me someone is a paid ex wife and he can still be seductively manipulated into spending again. Is there a way you can make him fall in love with you and get in that way?

Prettyglitter
07-12-2015, 02:04 PM
Ho tactics!!!

la petite sexy
07-12-2015, 02:55 PM
xStacey I agree with kortneykay. You can still work him. It's just going to take a little time. Think of it as that guy in the club that you KNOW is loaded and you know will fall in love with you but says he's not ready for dances, he's just here to drink, blah blah blah. After the two of you 'just hang out' for awhile, he's bought you drinks and/or food and you say the right flirty thing at the right moment he ends up enamored, yours for the night and leaves saying "Wow! I'm so glad I met you. You're so different." etc I say play into his game and entice him without him knowing it.

On another note I just finished the book today. Maaaaan have I been a basica. I've spent so much time crying over "good" men! I knew that I was a nice girl and wanted to lay her to rest. Now I totally get why I've been so frustrated.

Lastly, although this typically goes against the rules does anybody have any tips on the short term hustle? As in you have someone that's REALLY into you but has never sugared or spent in this way before but you'll be leaving the area in a few days?

miss.a.p1600
07-12-2015, 07:12 PM
I was thinking the same thing. I didn't want to say anything cause you seemed dead set on it not working out but I think there's still opportunity there. He may not be looking for wife or girlfriend or escort but he might want something in between like a friends with benefits type set up.

He may be expecting sex but that doesn't mean you have to give it (at least not immediately, if you do f*ck him, make him earn it / wait a few weeks). And all that nonsense about how "refreshing it is not to want him for his money" .... I'd just tell him what he wants to hear, continue to make him feel good / seduce him mentally, then after a couple public dates, his willingness to spend determines your willingness to be available to him.

But at the end of the day you know your situation best and it's better to go with your gut than be sorry later down the line.

xStacey
07-12-2015, 07:44 PM
Yeah he was looking for a friend with benefits. He's very smart, Ivy League graduate, zoezoebelle's post was right, he's VERY good at manipulating people. I really doubt I'd be able to successfully manipulate him or make him fall in love with me so easily. I don't know who his ex-wife is, but his brother who's around the same age is married to a woman who's Executive Chair, President, Director of multiple international financial corporations, not just a pretty face profitting from her husband money.

I am educated and smart for my young age but I felt like such an idiot when we were talking over dinner. He would talk about history, antics, paintings, old literature, subjects I have absolutely no interest in and am not at all knowledgeable! Maybe I underestimated how easy this would be.

la petite sexy
07-12-2015, 08:02 PM
I'm not sure about the part concerning him being a master manipulator but as far as you not knowing as much about certain topics as him...who cares! Just listen, compliment him on being so knowledgeable, continue to ask probing questions, seem really interested, stroke his ego. Just listening to him is a chance for you to learn and upgrade your game when it comes to the next guy because THEN you can at least say "Oh I had a friend who blah blah blah" instead of feeling insecure about what you don't know.

xStacey
07-12-2015, 08:07 PM
That's what I did but not sure It'll be enough to get him to fall in love lol

la petite sexy
07-12-2015, 08:33 PM
Confidence! Confidence! Confidence! plus what prettyglitter said.

sophianz
07-12-2015, 08:45 PM
The smartest hustle is the one that yeilds the most benefit from the least investment.
If you are already happy doing your own thing in life it is not always worth it just to hustle "because you can"

xStacey
07-12-2015, 08:50 PM
From the impression I got on our first date, it might just be more beneficial charging him $$$ by the hour OTC or keeping him ITC.

sophianz
07-12-2015, 08:57 PM
Agreed.
Just to add-trinkets are worth basically 1/3 of their value the minute they are taken out of the shop. At the end of the day if you dont love them then they are worthless junk.
Cash you can bank, tax and save is always king.

kaninchen
07-12-2015, 09:22 PM
The smartest hustle is the one that yeilds the most benefit from the least investment.
If you are already happy doing your own thing in life it is not always worth it just to hustle "because you can"

Samesies. Last year I met a very wealthy guy in the club. He lived and worked overseas and wanted to fly me out to see him. I got all worked up, trying to think of a long game extended hustle to win his heart and make non-hourly bank, but after a while I realized it was just way too much time and effort. So I let him go.

You should definitely follow your own intuition when deciding whether or not to pursue this guy. But remember that there's no shame in choosing your battles wisely.

sophianz
07-12-2015, 09:31 PM
Put it this way...to this day I have never regretted letting go of a hustle.
Some were very wealthy too.
I go by the idea that it is only worth it if you are invested in "the game" (which is half the fun)
If not, keep doing you...you sound like you are already doing well and you dont really need it anyways.
You have your school stuff, stripping etc etc-sometimes it is nice when things are simple and no one is blowing up your phone with their demanding BS

I would suggest cold shoulder him, say nothing, and be unavailable (-I reckon if he is what I think he is) ...he will drop bombs on you at the club next time he comes in. Stay very reserved if he does though.

If not, then keep working your legit regs and getting that CASH.

LAQUEEFA
07-13-2015, 09:01 AM
What happened? I thought you were, so attracted to him and it was hard for you to not sleep with him. The way he was made him not attractive. Did you sleep with him?

SnuffleUffleGrass
07-13-2015, 12:49 PM
I say troll him. "Keep in touch" and rave about the new guys you are dating. Make him jealous.

carmen_b
07-13-2015, 12:53 PM
He's obviously trying to " turn " the power and play a game trying not to pay for your time. I hope it works out ( well enough ) for you !
His gift was cheap and actually cost less than what he pays to spend an hour at the club with me, did not talk about an arrangement or offer to compensate me for my time at all and he was saying it's refreshing being with someone who's not with him for his money!

carmen_b
07-13-2015, 12:59 PM
If he is interested , he needs to make it worth your time. I think it's nice that he is *somewhat* honest that he doesn't intend to do the girlfriend thing, but it still doesn't make the offer remotely worthwhile to YOU! If he isn't offering girlfriend status and he isn't compensating you for your time .... He's just wasting it.

SnuffleUffleGrass
07-15-2015, 07:20 AM
IMO this guy is just unrealistic. One of my former flames (a military officer) told me "he would never pay for it (sex.)" Ten years later the same guy was cheating on his wife & calling me up for a booty call, thinking I still cared. Ha!!!
Some guys think they are "too good" for this or that, whether they came out of the ghetto or a rich lady's vagina. Obviously this guy you know got the "gold digger" memo. But nothing should let him think he going to get pussy for free. Oh hell no.

Extra pro-tip- get one of your friends to romance him, then dump him. Then come back and see if he's softened up.

Miss_Red
07-23-2015, 06:56 PM
Yeah he was looking for a friend with benefits. He's very smart, Ivy League graduate, zoezoebelle's post was right, he's VERY good at manipulating people. I really doubt I'd be able to successfully manipulate him or make him fall in love with me so easily. I don't know who his ex-wife is, but his brother who's around the same age is married to a woman who's Executive Chair, President, Director of multiple international financial corporations, not just a pretty face profitting from her husband money.

I am educated and smart for my young age but I felt like such an idiot when we were talking over dinner. He would talk about history, antics, paintings, old literature, subjects I have absolutely no interest in and am not at all knowledgeable! Maybe I underestimated how easy this would be.

So I don't know shit about sugar daddies, but I know a little bit about people, and you should definitely not feel like an idiot about not knowing what he was talking about. Do you suppose he expected you to know about old literature and history? It's not that there aren't super-educated strippers out there, I know a few, but that's not why guys talk to us. We're not expected to know anything about anything, and I think we've all had guys walk away when we come off as a little too educated and clever.

I'd bet all my money that if you'd been able to converse with him on these subjects, he would actually have been very disappointed. He didn't bring them up expecting scintillating conversation on the subject of business or art, he wanted to impress you. He wanted to make you feel like you were incredibly lucky to be out on a date with such a sophisticated, worldly gentleman as himself. So lucky you'd fuck him for little or nothing.

He doesn't want someone from his own world: if he's as wealthy and pedigreed as we suspect, he'd have no trouble making a match with some Ivy League girl whose interests include dressage and modern art. He wants some wide-eyed hot thing to be very impressed by him and grateful for his attention. Some girl who won't challenge him, someone he can feel superior to.

So you already have what he wants. You have the "ooh, I didn't know that!"and the "You're so smart!" and the "I'd love to go to that art exhibit, even though you'll have to explain it all to me! But I don't have anything to wear..."

I don't think the situation sounds hopeless at all, but even if you don't pursue it you shouldn't feel inferior to this dude. So he's educated, so what? He's looking for validation from you. That means you've got all the power.

xStacey
07-24-2015, 07:25 AM
I think you're absolutely right about everything. He tried very hard to impress me,
with his intelligence, showing me pictures from his travels, his cottage, views from the nicest hotels in the world... He was expecting me to date and sleep with him for free and just be happy I was along for the ride. His gift was very cheap, he did not have any intention of compensating me and when I did ask him to compensate me for my time, he did but I haven't heard back from him since lol. Before I asked him to pay me he was talking about how excited he was about our next date.

baer45
07-26-2015, 07:50 AM
I think you're absolutely right about everything. He tried very hard to impress me,
with his intelligence, showing me pictures from his travels, his cottage, views from the nicest hotels in the world... He was expecting me to date and sleep with him for free and just be happy I was along for the ride. His gift was very cheap, he did not have any intention of compensating me and when I did ask him to compensate me for my time, he did but I haven't heard back from him since lol. Before I asked him to pay me he was talking about how excited he was about our next date.

Tell him you have a boyfriend……and say no to the next date

miss.a.p1600
07-26-2015, 11:35 AM
Well at least you have experience for next time. Some of these wealthy guys really are jerks but who knows maybe you two were just on different pages (especially about the compensation part) and it could be something you could learn from this to make the next situation more to your satisfaction. Best of luck for your next wealthy man hustle!