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hyori
07-15-2015, 07:03 AM
So glad Jenny is here, I personally learned a lot from you over on WeCamGirls and I was sad when you left. I think you'll be happy with us here in Camming Connection.
I used to average about $150 per day for about 6 months but in the last month it has gone up to $250. Once a week, I make $400-$500 in one day. My top day was $800. I work 3-6 hours a day, 4-5 days a week. I splitcam MFC/CB. I used to be an SM girl but now it is my third choice site and I only put it up occasionally when I get the intuitive urge. My cammiversary of one year is July 18, (this Saturday). When I think about how far I've come in less than a year, I truly feel grateful and know that I am on the right path. I know I am doing very well for a cam model of less than a year. I read a shit ton about the LOA. I am always trying to improve my hustle and thinking of ways to make my shows better whether through better equipment, lighting, toys, outfits, games etc. I also do not judge myself for what I do. Mental health is key and I believe what I do is provide a beautiful service to those who don't have a space to express their true sexual needs. I love being a provider of pleasure and it gets me off knowing that only I can provide them with that special combination that they can't get from anyone else. Fuck those who judge me, they don't pay my rent.
DeepThoughts
07-15-2015, 07:12 AM
I'm wondering as a comparision to which sites earn the most etc...
How much do you make per year?
How many hours a week do you work?
What site do you work on?
and
What is you biggest tip ever?
and finally
How many years have you been camming ?
How much have you earned in your entire career?
Yeah I'll bite! I like Jenny and I am also curious what girls are making plus Im not American and I pay all my taxes so Im not worried about that end of it.
ow much do you make per year? Just over 100,000. for camming
How many hours a week do you work? 25 to 30ish but some weeks zero.
What site do you work on? SM
and
What is you biggest tip ever? I think it was $600 I really dont remember but nothing like huge huge
and finally
How many years have you been camming ? this is my 9th year but I started as a porn star and camming was a side thing that I did It was never my bread and butter. I have worked at camming more in the last couple years cause I got tired of going out to L.A. and dealing with all that head fucking!
How much have you earned in your entire career? Im not sure because its really wasnt something I calculated separately from porn and my site in the beginning but the last 3 years that I have been doing it more seriously so I am calculating only for the last three years from January 2011 to December 2014 it was $400,000.
Jenny I think its great you started this thread even if it kind of got hijacked a bit. I realize most of us wouldn't want to share these numbers with the other girls here for a plethora of reasons but I was really interested to see your numbers and it inspired me to share my own. I hope if nothing else it inspires all of you reading this to keep hustling!
MissJu
07-15-2015, 07:42 AM
O_O i should work more than an hour a day.
I want to add that ur shows are pretty extreme jenny & not many girls will do what u do so u cant really compare to the average cammer like myself. You are one of a kind, i dont know if there is somebody like u (that is not a porn star) on SM who provides the kind of shows u provide.
Men like extreme things so no wonder u reach that income level.
Compared to u i am very low on earnings lol & i think many girls would feel the same, same like other posters mentioned above, it's kinda bad taste to want to know these things considering u a very high earner.
People dont always feel comfy to talk about their earnings unless they very high LOL, i can see why some members here or on the other forum reacts(ed) in a specific way.
How about sharing ur success stories & how u got there, that would be interesting to read ;)
DeepThoughts
07-15-2015, 08:11 AM
^^ There is bedpost girl ;) You all know who I mean. And the other SM extreme queen who is also a pornstar. Im not using names I just want to say that Jenny isnt the only one.
I want to know these things and I honestly think most of us want to know these things just most people wouldnt have the balls to ask!
audritwo
07-15-2015, 08:14 AM
I'll answer :D. Also there is nothing wrong with being proud of high earnings. I'm no where near Jenny's boss level. But she definitely inspires me that one day I can double my earnings! Seriously:
http://i.imgur.com/xFrJtHx.gif
How much do you make per year? Before taxes: 1st year: $50k 2nd year: $75k
How many hours a week do you work? 20-22hours on average: I want to add, since it's summer break, I've been working 30+hours
What site do you work on? My main site is SM. Sometimes I'll venture off to another, but I always go back to SM.
What is you biggest tip ever? $3,000
How many years have you been camming? This will be my third solid year. I used to cam briefly in 2009 but quit 3 months in.
How much have you earned in your entire career? Before taxes: estimated $125,000. Of course most of that goes to my edjumaction. :D
I want to add, I don't do the shows like Jenny. Everyone has their niche they cater to. So lay off her. I do basic things, nothing extreme, and I'm a high earner too. Of course, she has lots of years under her belt, so she has built up regs and a great reputation.
LEAVE JENNY ALONE! SHE IS AWESOME AND WORKS HARD! She's earned her income.
^^ There is bedpost girl ;) You all know who I mean. And the other SM extreme queen who is also a pornstar. Im not using names I just want to say that Jenny isnt the only one.
I want to know these things and I honestly think most of us want to know these things just most people wouldnt have the balls to ask!
Right, the bedpost girl i know & the pornstar too i think, i forgot about them lol, there might be more but if they geoblock i cant see them. Anyway, extreme performance makes the most money on SM at least. Good for the ones who can & are willing to go this path ;)
Prussia
07-15-2015, 08:34 AM
I want to add that ur shows are pretty extreme jenny & not many girls will do what u do so u cant really compare to the average cammer like myself. You are one of a kind, i dont know if there is somebody like u (that is not a porn star) on SM who provides the kind of shows u provide.
Men like extreme things so no wonder u reach that income level.
Compared to u i am very low on earnings lol & i think many girls would feel the same, same like other posters mentioned above, it's kinda bad taste to want to know these things considering u a very high earner.
People dont always feel comfy to talk about their earnings unless they very high LOL, i can see why some members here or on the other forum reacts(ed) in a specific way.
How about sharing ur success stories & how u got there, that would be interesting to read ;)
Though her shows are unique, she is not the only one doing what she offers on SM. And even if she was the only one doing it, good for her finding her niche and being herself.
And there are people who do feel comfortable posting their earnings on here. If you're not comfortable answering then it's really simple: don't. In camming rocks i post my big day earnings from time to time to keep me in check and post for other girls to show them that it is possible. When I first started I was happy to make $70 a day. Now I can clear +$500 a day and I wish to pass that motivation to girls that are starting out. I also post in the camming sucks when I'm having a wonky day. I actually don't know the answers to some of these questions including how much I've made over the years; this thread has motivated me to go look up these questions and see what the answers are for me.
I think the real issue here is many girls have an idea just how successful Jenny is as well as being bold enough to do her her own thing, even if it is "extreme" and some find it intimidating including her success. I think it's awesome she is always striving to be better at her hustle. Bottom line, she works hard, is herself, knows what she's doing, is consistent, motivated and that's the key to her success.
audritwo
07-15-2015, 08:51 AM
Exactly. I love sharing when I have a great day or a fantastic week, because one, I can't share it with my family my earnings or most of my friends. Because they get jealous and pissed that I make good money taking off my clothes. And secondly, for inspiration for others. I was making shit when I first started. Everyone who posted their high earnings, I was so thankful for those who did and still do because one day aspired to make that much, now I'm there, and it's still a huge inspiration. And I'm glad that I"m inspiring others as well.
Sometimes, yeah it makes me feel bad when I had a shit week, and I see ladies pulling in the $$$. But you know what, you gotta keep trucking. Jealously is an ugly thing, and I never want to be jealous of my camsisters. I want to cheer you on and celebrate with you on your achievements.
adris
07-15-2015, 08:55 AM
There are models working hard and models sitting on their ass waiting for money.Jenny is one of those working hard,im on the opposite side like many others.Yeah not everyone can do what Jenny does and even if they did,they might not succeed the way she did.I think she is awesome.
My earnings are so fucked up I dont dare to post them here,but those of you who shared are very inspiring !
I shall keep an eye on this thread and remind myself that working hard on cam doesn't only mean to log in and sit there for a few hours expecting the money to come to me but work harder to bring them in,which is what Jenny and others here do.
DeepThoughts
07-15-2015, 09:05 AM
LEAVE JENNY ALONE! SHE IS AWESOME AND WORKS HARD!
I read this like you were the "Leave Brittany Alone" guy. Plus a Wayne's World GIF! Could you me any more Amazing Audri?
hyori
07-15-2015, 09:09 AM
You don't have to do anything extreme to do well as a cam model. If you look at the non-nude models on MFC, the proof is right there. You don't have to do anything you are not comfortable doing. This is YOUR career, your body, your hustle. I don't do anything considered extreme either and my earnings keep improving. The most important factors for success are to focus on having fun, feeling good about what you do, improving your hustle, good business strategies eg. marketing, multiple streams of income and staying happy...the money follows. You don't have to work harder, just smarter.
I still remember my very first day, I worked 45 minutes on SM and made $60. I still have that first guy as a regular! I remember the pure rush of adrenaline and KNOWING that I was meant to do this and now I'm pretty much addicted to getting that same excitement.
minniesoporno
07-15-2015, 09:30 AM
In my start of camming some might know or don't know is that I started camming in a studio that was someone's house, a horrible man who held me captive in that place and I was forced to cam and if i didn't smile on cam I would get hit in the back of the head. I do not have a typical camming story at all. I found camming on my way thinking I would get into the porn industry and just went through the ringer.
That house I was forced to be on cam 20 hours or more in a day, recruit new girls and whatever else this man wanted. So you can see why sharing my camming history is a sore subject for me. I've had great successes but it came with a huge price and now things are clear I am trying to figure out who I am as a cam model and it's extremely difficult.
As for Jenny's questions here are some answers
I'm wondering as a comparison to which sites earn the most etc...
How much do you make per year?
My first year in camming I have no idea how much I made - because when I started out camming I was held captive for a year and half I never had access to my earnings. I would just be yelled at and told hour more shows I need to get and how much more I needed to make. I do remember making over $800 in a 2 week pay period and landed on cams.com top model page when they use to display the top models on the site. then my income increase from there for a while.
Once I got myself free from being held captive in summer 2004 I was making about $5,000 a month mind you I was never leaving my house and I was in deep PTSD and agoraphobia. So I am not even sure how you can compare that as successful when mentally I was on the edge of literaly snapping.
2007 I dropped to about $30k then after that it was a down hill spiral because I was suffering from burn out and bipolar psychosis and still in PTSD.
2008 I was camming less and escorting so more cash was coming in but mentally I was on auto pilot.
Also being Canadian with the USD to Canadian dollar exchange we tend to make more just on getting the earnings converted in our country's currency.
So claiming taxes even though the site never sent out tax forms we have choices go based on the numbers in the model page earnings back office or based on our bank statements or a statement from a check cashing place.
How many hours a week do you work?
Right now I am about 5 to 20 hours a week. Mostly due to chronic pain, nerve pain on the left side of my body. Now that my medication for my nerve pain is more or less under control I am hoping to do 20 to 40 hours a week. I use to work 12 or more hours a day and average $80 to $100 a day. I dying to get back to $500 to $1000 a week I know the numbers are a big jump but my income earnings these days have changed a lot so I don't have to depend 100% all my income from camming anymore compared back in 2007 and those previous years.
What site do you work on?
I work streamate and cams. I've worked other sites in the past, but I find a happy medium working streamate and cams. I seem to make more on average from streamate lately. I am hoping to earn well on both sites equally. I am splitting both sites when I am on since each site have different traffic flow and also some customers overlap there is more chances of making money from the same person that way there is no excuses they've maxed out their daily limit.
and
What is your biggest tip ever?
Biggest tip from SM $100, Biggest tip from cams $10.
and finally
How many years have you been camming ?
Since March 18 2003 so I am going on 12 years.
How much have you earned in your entire career?
I have no exact numbers on this one but I guess $80k to $100K.
anonymous camgirl
07-15-2015, 09:34 AM
I for one don't care how much money you make!.. I want to know HOW the hell do you do those shows? I would be dying!.. and I used to do some crazy stuff my first year but I couldn't take it and in order to survive on cam I had to do more vanilla type of shows.
But I am sad about my earnings!..LOL.. I have NEVER made it to the 6 figure arena which is where I wanted to go since 2003 when I first started. I had one problem after the other in real life that I feel kept me back from reaching true success.. but I keep trying but not for long.. I am finding other avenues to make money at because this can really get to you afterawhile.. continuing to hope for more but never getting it .. Very frustrating.
p.s. my biggest tip I think was $250 more than once.. who can remember after all this time.
I would say my entire career I earned close to a million
^^^ I want to know the same, how you physically manage to use that huge toys on urself, i swear i would buy a GS of urs if i could just to see that :)
Oh by the way, i admire u for the success u have but i know i'll never want or be able to perform the way u do, no matter how much money i could make.
Can u tell what motivate u the most? is the 'doing anything possible in order to reach high earnings' or 'i love going extreme & am happy to reach high earning levels'? This i wish to know if u wanna share pls, i know u for many years since u were on IFR & i admire u, u been very helpful in IFR forums when they still existed just never been able to ask these questions cause i could not reach u, now i can, pls share if u ok with it, ty!
Halo88
07-15-2015, 10:19 AM
I'm wondering as a comparision to which sites earn the most etc...
How much do you make per year? I make between 150 and 200k per year currently , that is my half
How many hours a week do you work? I work 20 to 25 hrs per week
What site do you work on? I currently work on streamate only but the first 5 yrs of my camming I worked on ifriends... I switched to streamate because I made more even though ifriends offers 50% and streamate is 35% they still blow ifriends out of the water !
and
What is you biggest tip ever? $1526
and finally
How many years have you been camming ? I've been camming 10 years
How much have you earned in your entire career? Between all sites Ive earned slightly over 3 1/2 million in 10 yrs
This is so inspiring!
Kitcatt
07-15-2015, 11:25 AM
Ah, fuck it, I'll bite too. I don't do extreme shows either, my main audience is generally fetish. I'll put this up so people know 40+ aged models can still do alright.
How much do you make per year? Before taxes: 1st year(part time): $25k (on cams.com) 2nd year: $80k (full time on SM)
How many hours a week do you work? 30-35 hours on average, though this year I've taken off nearly 2 months to travel (so yeah, my earnings are going to suffer, but I don't really care)
What site do you work on? Currently only SM
What is you biggest tip ever? 2,500 euros, though I should mention, every piece of computer equipment I had was purchased for me
How many years have you been camming? I'm coming up on 3 years, but my first year was part time
How much have you earned in your entire career? I'll know at the end of this year + what's already mentioned (yeah, no good with the income tracking)
I started caming when I was 38 and thought I was insane to quit a full time vanilla job to do it, but so far it's been a great idea :) It's really helped me pay attention to my physical and mental health as well., I think 3/4 of my regs come to me because they like my personality, if I'm in a shit mood or I'm not feeling well I make less $$$.
scarlettbelle
07-15-2015, 12:03 PM
Jenny, I'm so happy to see you here! Your success is seriously inspirational to me.
To answer the questions:
I make around 75K/year between SM (80% of my earnings), CamModelDirectory (18%) and Clips4Sale (2%).
I usually work around 10-15 hours per week but I'm trying to double that. I don't get many big tips on SM because I mostly do Pvt/Exc. I think my highest tip was around $200 in a Gold show. I average about $150/hr on SM doing a mix of vanilla and domme shows.
I've been camming for about 2 and a half years and I've made around 200K.
Blovely
07-15-2015, 01:57 PM
I don't think she meant any harm either and I hope that she doesn't feel driven away from posting here. Although I don't do shows like hers I think any info or tips she'd be willing to share would be very helpful. Shiiiiiit I'd love to know how to make $3,000+ in a week. @Jenny Have you always made the amount you make now? If not do you have any tips on how one can you increased their income?
Although its a frequent question and might be invasive I think its important and relevant to have threads discussing income. If ladies didn't post their earnings I wouldn't have known that it was possible to make more than I was. I don't remember exactly what I made a day when I first started camming but I know that I was struggling and wasn't able to make $300 a week on 1 site. Soon after joining SW my daily goal was $100 for SM. I was also split-camming on and off but I don't remember exactly what I made on other sites, I just know it wasn't close to what I made on SM.
In the last year or so I've completely stopped split-camming and have focused on SM. My daily goal for the last 6 months-year has been $200 but I've been having days where I hit $230-$370, even had a day where I hit $600. One day I'd like to have a daily goal of $500-$1000 which I think is very possible if I keep going like I am(improving my; hustle, equipment, cam area and physical look).
Again if ladies didn't post their earnings then I probably wouldn't be where I am now. Seeing others earnings can be depressing but it can also be very motivating.
whirlerz
07-15-2015, 03:35 PM
How Mch do you make?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 04:58 PM
Right, the bedpost girl i know & the pornstar too i think, i forgot about them lol, there might be more but if they geoblock i cant see them. Anyway, extreme performance makes the most money on SM at least. Good for the ones who can & are willing to go this path ;)
I did find a BIG niche you could say lol , no I'm not the only one who does this there are several girls that do this BUT I have only been doing shows like this for about 3 yrs the 7 yrs I cammed before this I never used big toys at all.. This is somewhat new for me .. fyi
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 05:06 PM
My first yr camming I made 80k and that was doing pvts on ifriends @ 3.99 a min and every yr it increased after that but, on ifriends I was working at least 40 hrs a week if not 60 and I made at least 120 each year on ifriends .. I found streamate and now I can make that much working litterally half the time even tho the % is less wtf right... but to answer your Q ya I've always made over 100k a year except my first yr camming .. I haven't always used big toys that is new to me only a few yrs but I have always done fetish like bondage etc... domme stuff like that ...
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 05:06 PM
THANK YOU so much girls who are posting on topic you guys rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 05:08 PM
hmmm what motivates me the most? THE MONEY lol I like being able to buy what I want when I want to and I luv helping people... People are always comming to me needing money and its great to just be able to hand it over to them and help them out when there strapped for cash... Or if I see someone struggling just hand them over the money they need and see the look on there face of shock that someone would just give them that much cash for no reason.. It never gets old lol
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 05:28 PM
I'll answer :D. Also there is nothing wrong with being proud of high earnings. I'm no where near Jenny's boss level. But she definitely inspires me that one day I can double my earnings! Seriously:
http://i.imgur.com/xFrJtHx.gif
How much do you make per year? Before taxes: 1st year: $50k 2nd year: $75k
How many hours a week do you work? 20-22hours on average: I want to add, since it's summer break, I've been working 30+hours
What site do you work on? My main site is SM. Sometimes I'll venture off to another, but I always go back to SM.
What is you biggest tip ever? $3,000
How many years have you been camming? This will be my third solid year. I used to cam briefly in 2009 but quit 3 months in.
How much have you earned in your entire career? Before taxes: estimated $125,000. Of course most of that goes to my edjumaction. :D
I want to add, I don't do the shows like Jenny. Everyone has their niche they cater to. So lay off her. I do basic things, nothing extreme, and I'm a high earner too. Of course, she has lots of years under her belt, so she has built up regs and a great reputation.
LEAVE JENNY ALONE! SHE IS AWESOME AND WORKS HARD! She's earned her income.
omg this is awesome lol
and HOLY FUCK 3K! wow
This is very nice of you to help people in need Jenny, as i said i knew u altruistic helping girls on IFR forum & never been 'with ur nose in the sky' even u been very successful there too, i just never knew u give people money like u just said. Very nice indeed!
May i ask why u wanna know these answers? Is because u wish to compare earnings, see if there are girls who make more than u maybe, looking to make even more? Wanting to change things/ hustle or why? Out of curiosity maybe?
I ask because i remember u left wecamgirls forum for this exact reason, ur threads were closed cause u asked the same things & people felt not ok there about how the topic went on.
Aniela
07-15-2015, 06:36 PM
It seems my original point got lost in all the :butthead: :worship: going on here.
If Jenny's telling the truth abt her earnings, God love her for it, & her customers too. I am not at all against celebrating another person's success. I read sm of the threads in other areas discussing earnings, & for the most part I am very happy to read abt other girls doing well & I sympathise when they are going thru slumps. I am also all for sharing helpful info & I have posted as much in the HH section as in any of the Stripping-specific or off-topic sections.
As for her behaviour here -- a few posters have gotten on abt how 'altruistic' Jenny's been. I haven't seen any of that altruism here. Just skimming her posting history, she's contributed nothing to this board other than two posts in two different sections asking the same question (when I made my initial post in this thread, it was still where she OP'd in Dollar Den, not CammingConnection), & a positively foul attitude towards any other poster who isn't telling her what she wants to hear. The other site was 'dumb' to lock her thread asking this question? If she presented it as she did here, I wouldn't blame them. There was nothing in her OPs indicating any desire to actually improve her situation or those of others here by 'altruistically' sharing tips or info. She flat-out asked for numbers, which is maybe half the equation if a person is really looking to improve -- those numbers alone don't mean a whole lot if you don't know what the other person is doing differently from you.
The idea that her questions could possibly be taken as offencive or invasive is brushed-off as 'not a good opinion' aka 'your viewpoint is not valid bc I disagree' & deserving of being called nasty names. Her tone in her OP & in quite a few of her subsequent posts comes off as quite the opposite of altruistic IMO. I realise I may also be alone in my opinion that no one here deserves to be called a cuntbag, or any other nasty name, simply bc they disagree. I would extend that opinion to include ppl I disagree w/.
Discussing earnings isn't the issue here. I do come from a culture where discussing finances w/ strangers is seen as extremely crass, & I have no problem admitting I was initially turned-off by the topic. But what got my back up was an unknown, non-contributing member digging for such personal info first thing, & her extremely negative responses to being questioned in return. That behaviour strikes me as more self-serving & even trollish, than anything remotely positive or helpful. Sry that's not what Jenny & Co want to hear.
EllieGold
07-15-2015, 07:01 PM
I think this thread is a perfect example why some cammodels choose to not disclose their income. My income+ is about the 500 a week average now with working 10-15 hours a week which isn't too bad. I am not a higher earning model and that's OK with me. I'm happy making enough to pay my rent, bills and then some. I read through a bit already and feel inspired that I can make a ton more. You ladies seriously rock. HUGE inspiration!
How much do you make per year? 20-30K average now that I'm working part time. I don't have calculations right now since I just started camming more in 2015.
How many hours a week do you work? 20 on average, but wanting up to 40 during summer slump.
What site do you work on? Streamate & Cams
and
What is you biggest tip ever? $150
and finally
How many years have you been camming ? Coming up on 3 years this December but I've been taking alot of time off between 2012-2014.
How much have you earned in your entire career? At least 20K... Lower than others but it will go up a lot in 2016. :)
^^^ I also dont like ass kissers and worshipers in general, just because someone reached a level of financial success does not mean that person is a god or something, that's why i ask Jenny specific questions cause i wanna know what she is up to. I dont want to assume things but to get a clear answer from the person who opened this thread.
Also, nobody said Jenny does not deserve the money she makes or that she is not a hard worker, of course she deserves that money & of course she is a hard worker like anyone else, everyone deserves the money they make.
Yes there is a reason she asks these questions & i think i know what it's all about but dont wanna assume things so i'll wait on her answer ;)
audritwo
07-15-2015, 07:59 PM
omg this is awesome lol
and HOLY FUCK 3K! wow
Yeah, I logged off and cried because I didn't know how to handle it. Hahaha.
sexysusie
07-15-2015, 08:06 PM
I would also say be very careful and be in full awareness of the fact that SOME girls will actively troll you if they are jealous of your (stated) earnings, to the extent of copying your every move trying to emulate you and in the process trying to drag you down. I will never understand why girls get so silly since I'm the type of person that gets super psyched when i see someone else doing amazing. it makes me want to get on and BEAT whatever they made. if they are doing well it means there is abundance out there for the taking, and also that someone else is happy right now.. that makes me happy :)
The main issue for me about posting earnings (although I do it sometimes) is that this is a public forum - A) Women can see these threads and bam! you've just invited your own competition! B) Production companies looking to make a quick buck can also see these threads, Bam! You just inspired a whole truck load of newbies to flood your camsite!!!
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 08:30 PM
This is very nice of you to help people in need Jenny, as i said i knew u altruistic helping girls on IFR forum & never been 'with ur nose in the sky' even u been very successful there too, i just never knew u give people money like u just said. Very nice indeed!
May i ask why u wanna know these answers? Is because u wish to compare earnings, see if there are girls who make more than u maybe, looking to make even more? Wanting to change things/ hustle or why? Out of curiosity maybe?
I ask because i remember u left wecamgirls forum for this exact reason, ur threads were closed cause u asked the same things & people felt not ok there about how the topic went on.
Ya I am curious am I at a stopping point? Do people earn more then me ? Is there room for growth or have I topped out?
There is no tops list on streamate so it's hard to really know if you are doing well or not
sexysusie
07-15-2015, 08:37 PM
Also Jenny, well fucking done! I've seen people torn down for lying about their income when I know for a fact they earn what they say they do (or sometimes even more, but they try to play it down), and I can only put it down to ignorance of what IS possible. They have never earned it therefore they just don't see how others can. I just popped by the 6 figures in 2015 thread, went to work out my own income so far this year, realised I am WAY off track haha. But reading your figures has made me determined to work more, be more consistent, and GO FOR IT next year! So thanks x
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 08:45 PM
It seems my original point got lost in all the :butthead: :worship: going on here.
If Jenny's telling the truth abt her earnings, God love her for it, & her customers too. I am not at all against celebrating another person's success. I read sm of the threads in other areas discussing earnings, & for the most part I am very happy to read abt other girls doing well & I sympathise when they are going thru slumps. I am also all for sharing helpful info & I have posted as much in the HH section as in any of the Stripping-specific or off-topic sections.
As for her behaviour here -- a few posters have gotten on abt how 'altruistic' Jenny's been. I haven't seen any of that altruism here. Just skimming her posting history, she's contributed nothing to this board other than two posts in two different sections asking the same question (when I made my initial post in this thread, it was still where she OP'd in Dollar Den, not CammingConnection), & a positively foul attitude towards any other poster who isn't telling her what she wants to hear. The other site was 'dumb' to lock her thread asking this question? If she presented it as she did here, I wouldn't blame them. There was nothing in her OPs indicating any desire to actually improve her situation or those of others here by 'altruistically' sharing tips or info. She flat-out asked for numbers, which is maybe half the equation if a person is really looking to improve -- those numbers alone don't mean a whole lot if you don't know what the other person is doing differently from you.
The idea that her questions could possibly be taken as offencive or invasive is brushed-off as 'not a good opinion' aka 'your viewpoint is not valid bc I disagree' & deserving of being called nasty names. Her tone in her OP & in quite a few of her subsequent posts comes off as quite the opposite of altruistic IMO. I realise I may also be alone in my opinion that no one here deserves to be called a cuntbag, or any other nasty name, simply bc they disagree. I would extend that opinion to include ppl I disagree w/.
Discussing earnings isn't the issue here. I do come from a culture where discussing finances w/ strangers is seen as extremely crass, & I have no problem admitting I was initially turned-off by the topic. But what got my back up was an unknown, non-contributing member digging for such personal info first thing, & her extremely negative responses to being questioned in return. That behaviour strikes me as more self-serving & even trollish, than anything remotely positive or helpful. Sry that's not what Jenny & Co want to hear.
ohhhhhhhhh it was you lol .. Well you were rude so you reminded me of a (edit) sorry I speak the truth
just like (If thats what she really makes)
I responded to this thread I didn't start it someone else did and nobody believed me that I made what I do so I posted proof..
EllieGold
07-15-2015, 08:45 PM
Camgirls DO compare income and they try to copy the person in hopes that they will achieve the same results. Lots of models say "Well this BB is in my category, why is she always in a private? Why is she earning more than me?". I do feel that as a camgirl, I will be torn down the more I make. This is overall a very competitive business.
The more you start focusing on your own hustle and forget another cammodel's you start to get in your own groove. I just can't watch cammodels that much anymore because I'm now focusing on my own hustle and what I'm doing RIGHT not what I'm doing WRONG. Jenny I know is a top earner but she earned her way to get there by doing her own thing. o
EllieGold
07-15-2015, 08:46 PM
Let me rephrase that, just a few copy others. Lots of girls on here do their own thing.
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 08:53 PM
It seems my original point got lost in all the :butthead: :worship: going on here.
If Jenny's telling the truth abt her earnings, God love her for it, & her customers too. I am not at all against celebrating another person's success. I read sm of the threads in other areas discussing earnings, & for the most part I am very happy to read abt other girls doing well & I sympathise when they are going thru slumps. I am also all for sharing helpful info & I have posted as much in the HH section as in any of the Stripping-specific or off-topic sections.
As for her behaviour here -- a few posters have gotten on abt how 'altruistic' Jenny's been. I haven't seen any of that altruism here. Just skimming her posting history, she's contributed nothing to this board other than two posts in two different sections asking the same question (when I made my initial post in this thread, it was still where she OP'd in Dollar Den, not CammingConnection), & a positively foul attitude towards any other poster who isn't telling her what she wants to hear. The other site was 'dumb' to lock her thread asking this question? If she presented it as she did here, I wouldn't blame them. There was nothing in her OPs indicating any desire to actually improve her situation or those of others here by 'altruistically' sharing tips or info. She flat-out asked for numbers, which is maybe half the equation if a person is really looking to improve -- those numbers alone don't mean a whole lot if you don't know what the other person is doing differently from you.
The idea that her questions could possibly be taken as offencive or invasive is brushed-off as 'not a good opinion' aka 'your viewpoint is not valid bc I disagree' & deserving of being called nasty names. Her tone in her OP & in quite a few of her subsequent posts comes off as quite the opposite of altruistic IMO. I realise I may also be alone in my opinion that no one here deserves to be called a cuntbag, or any other nasty name, simply bc they disagree. I would extend that opinion to include ppl I disagree w/.
Discussing earnings isn't the issue here. I do come from a culture where discussing finances w/ strangers is seen as extremely crass, & I have no problem admitting I was initially turned-off by the topic. But what got my back up was an unknown, non-contributing member digging for such personal info first thing, & her extremely negative responses to being questioned in return. That behaviour strikes me as more self-serving & even trollish, than anything remotely positive or helpful. Sry that's not what Jenny & Co want to hear.
And I don't care what others are doing to earn money Im not here to copy, Im just wanting to know if there is room to grow
and my post on wecamgirls was locked cuz they said there was already posts asking those questions existing .. There was similar posts but not detailed like mine asking the questions I was asking so they locked it and it was a moderator who locked it that had issues with me on a diff post about eating goldfish (long story).. I got annoyed that it got personal and so I left that forum and that is what happened...
sexysusie
07-15-2015, 09:00 PM
you are kidding me? You're the goldfish eater? I take EVERYTHING back I just said if so. People who profit from animal cruelty need shooting. I understand she (you?) live in the UK? Well goldfish eating here is ILLEGAL.
hyori
07-15-2015, 09:09 PM
^^ noooo, Jenny was not the goldfish eater...some other girl was and Jenny stood up for animal rights and even took down her clips because the site allowed that other girl to profit off goldfish cruelty vids wouldn't listen to Jenny. Jenny is a hero!
sexysusie
07-15-2015, 09:11 PM
I was there for that thread but tbh i left the forum right after, it was full of desperate noobs and men :-/ Ok now i feel dumb as I just deleted my responses to Jenny on here cause i didnt remember who she was and thought she was the goldfish killer!!! I was the one who first called the bitch out btw, we were fighting on the same side lol, sooooory :D
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 09:17 PM
you are kidding me? You're the goldfish eater? I take EVERYTHING back I just said if so. People who profit from animal cruelty need shooting. I understand she (you?) live in the UK? Well goldfish eating here is ILLEGAL.
OH HELL NO Im not the goldfish eater lol
Im the one who was banning against eating gold fish and putting an end to animal cruelty!
Even if its just a gold fish harming animals is wrong!
And one of the moderators was on the gold fish eaters side and so she was mad at me for being against gold fish eating and giving the girl a hard time for it and so she locked my post for it ..
so I left the site
JennyCouture
07-15-2015, 09:19 PM
sorry girls I must have been posting my reply as you guys were realizing Im not the goldfish eater lol
sexysusie
07-15-2015, 09:24 PM
There is no 'just' a goldfish, it's a life, a sentient being, with every much a right to life as anyone else. She is a horrible, nasty person whor elies on other people thinking otherwise to get away with her arrogance. Ugh. I reported all her sites and told the rspca!
Anyways, back on track.. sorry i deleted my posts. i thanked you for being awesome and inspiring. Carry on :D
minniesoporno
07-15-2015, 09:37 PM
you are kidding me? You're the goldfish eater? I take EVERYTHING back I just said if so. People who profit from animal cruelty need shooting. I understand she (you?) live in the UK? Well goldfish eating here is ILLEGAL.
when \i asked clips4sale about it they said it is legal according to them to eat a live one if you swollow it whole, but not if you take a bite out of it when its alive.
evielee
07-15-2015, 10:28 PM
Damnnn, so much heat in this thread. I don't don't like how judgy some of the comments are, who cares how extreme she gets and why put her down. I don't even know what she does but everyone has their limits. As long as someone isn't hurting themselves or another living thing, and doesn't feel bad about what they are doing I say do what you are comfortable with.
If someone was working in pretty much any other profession i don't feel like people would be making such a big deal and getting so defensive about this question. Its always nice to have a reference point in any profession.
I'm probably on the lower end of cam girls for earnings, I fight against very bad ADD and other stuff, im struggling with myself... but when i get on I make about $37 an hour on average.
sexysusie
07-15-2015, 11:37 PM
when \i asked clips4sale about it they said it is legal according to them to eat a live one if you swollow it whole, but not if you take a bite out of it when its alive.
In the US it is, but not in the UK (Should not be anywhere but then c4s is all about the money!), and she is a UK resident so she is breaking the law.
JennyCouture
07-16-2015, 01:14 AM
when \i asked clips4sale about it they said it is legal according to them to eat a live one if you swollow it whole, but not if you take a bite out of it when its alive.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/neknomination-drinking-goldfish-is-against-the-law-the-rspca-warns-9110064.html
beauvoir
07-16-2015, 01:55 AM
Just in case any UK girls are getting paranoid, the HMRC has neither the time nor the resources to be scouting various online forums in vain hoping for a tip off. They used to sent inspectors round to strip clubs and trade sites (construction) but since budget cuts they no longer do.
Naturally it's in your interest to declare all your earnings and most of us do, but if you don't, you won't be caught out by posting on here. Unless a crafty lurker on these sites chooses to report you, and it has been known. Various clients are also malevolent enough to call the HMRC - I've had it done to me when I stopped escorting and a certain man got annoyed. Luckily I'm clean.
Also - no one needs to know what I earn.
:D
Oh i see, thank you for clarifying Jenny, i can see now where u coming from, u miss that Top Earners list on Ifriends, yeah SM doesent have it so u dont really know where u at, it makes sense BUT the way u asked these questions was kinda not the right approach in my opinion.
You could have said 'Ok guys, i need to know where i am at on SM, u mind providing some numbers so i can compare?'
Or get urself verified here (not sure if u eligible yet) & ask the camgirls in the verified section where u & the real camgirls in there know for sure the info stays private, out of 'others' view, when i say 'others' i mean whoever else is not a cam girl lol, if it's members, haters, IRS, so on.
That's what i mean with 'people are not always comfy to discuss their earnings', 'not in open forum for all to read' i should have added.
Also, if u get verified here people will know for sure u a cam girl and not someone else using ur name & posting like it's you, this could be a real issue, it's easy to sign up with the name of a known top model u know...
I can tell from experience these forums are read by a lot of people, the girls in verified know what i am talking about so yeah, getting verified here would be a good choice if u wanna discuss personal matters cause finances are a personal matter IMO.
The last but not the least, as other people mentioned in this thread is just very difficult to compare ur earnings to others considering what site u work on, how u look like, how many hrs u work, what u offer in ur shows, where u from (yeah, a very important point believe me), how fit u are (how good u can move around) and such.
Many of us deal with personal issues that keep us from reaching top levels, if it's health issues, personal issues at home, logistics to work with & such, it's not like we all the same & we should compare earnings, numbers dont always reflect how successful a cam model is or how hard she works.
I can work very hard on SM hustling my room all nite (hustling it the way i feel comfy) & not make much out of it, there are soo many factors involved in having success on a cam site. SM favorite & promote certain models & models from their studio, a lot of favoritism there, the placement dont always reflects the earnings or model's value, independent girls have to earn their placement & traffic in their rooms while some porn stars or top models are 'granted' with great solid placement & lots of traffic in their rooms.
I talk in general, i dont point to anyone in particular. It makes sense for a site like SM to promote the girls with high earning potential, the famous porn stars & the girls working in their studios(s) so yeah, is difficult to have an idea who what really makes in there.
We wait for you in the verified section Jenny ;)
Comtesse
07-16-2015, 05:57 AM
I'll answer too, and hope for advices, especially from Jenny since i make extreme show too.
How much do you make per year? Before taxes:
My first year about 75k, this years its way harder, streamate is incredibly inconsistent with weeks ranging from 2000 to 100, which drive me nearly crazy lol
How many hours a week do you work
Pretty much always around 40, sometime more than 60
What site do you work on?
I started on jasmin, which was utter ****, then on streamate, and added chaturbate lately
What is you biggest tip ever?
I cant say i dont receive much high tips, but on my first year a guys did give me around 20k in skype show
How many years have you been camming
About a years and a half