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ScarletKitten
11-26-2015, 09:59 PM
I don't want kids. At least not my own. I would love to adopt a black daughter. But other than that, I DO NOT want to give birth for several reasons. 1) I am fucking TERRIFIED of giving birth- fuck that shit! 2) I do not want to pass on my genes. My blood line is fucked and needs to end. LOL. 3) Too fucking expensive to raise kids. 4) This world is already overpopulated with over 7 billion motherfuckers on the planet. 5) There are so many kids without homes or families. Why be selfish and have my own when I can adopt and save a life that is already here? Not to mention, I can skip the birthing process. Yuck! So, no kids for me until I'm financially stable enough to adopt a daughter. :)

AlicexEden
12-15-2015, 07:22 PM
I don't want kids. Personally I find them very annoying and not at all cute. They're inconvenient, very expensive, and a lot of commitment. Really, I'm sure I'm too selfish for one, I'd end up screwing it up terrible. I'll stick to cats.

Vyanka
12-16-2015, 03:21 AM
Oh my... my friend since kindergarten had her 2nd baby this year. The birth experience was so aweful, that she has to pee through a bag for 3 weeks. She's super depressed.

Sharing for those who don't want babies. Lol.

Glamourmilf
12-16-2015, 08:21 AM
Oh my... my friend since kindergarten had her 2nd baby this year. The birth experience was so aweful, that she has to pee through a bag for 3 weeks. She's super depressed.

Sharing for those who don't want babies. Lol.

Thanks for that visual. That was awesome!
I just watched one of the Kardashians give birth, and the bitch made it look so easy. Like, she reached down and yanked the baby right out of her snatch.
It was gross and amazing at the same time.
I still never want to give birth, or have kids.
My vagina is an entrance, NOT an exit.

Vyanka
12-16-2015, 11:43 AM
Thanks for that visual. That was awesome!
I just watched one of the Kardashians give birth, and the bitch made it look so easy. Like, she reached down and yanked the baby right out of her snatch.
It was gross and amazing at the same time.
I still never want to give birth, or have kids.
My vagina is an entrance, NOT an exit.

Probably bc she eats right and did the exercises for an easy birth? My gf is very unhealthy. Loves junk food and hates exercise.

Selina M
12-16-2015, 01:00 PM
You know what I read the other day that turned me off further? It was an account of someone giving birth and how she was yelling she didn't want any more kids and people were smiling and being like "Uh huh, sure". She wrote that she was upset that they were condescending about it and didn't seem to realize how much pain she was in.

Yeah, no thanks.

tuesdaymarie
12-16-2015, 03:06 PM
^Loss of control/identity from motherhood is one of my biggest fears. I'm getting my tubes tied next week :)

Cashmere Star
12-16-2015, 03:12 PM
^^ what the fuck.

tuesdaymarie
12-16-2015, 03:21 PM
^Not sure if you're "what the fuck"ing me or Selina's comment..?

kaninchen
12-16-2015, 03:21 PM
I have two 2 month old kittens right now that are probably 5% as effort-intensive as a human baby, and like... They're already stretching my patience, even though they're so fuzzy and cute. And they'll be autonomous adult cats in just six months! I couldn't imagine how draining it would be to put in all that time, money, and work for YEARS.

If only babies could come from factories à la Brave New World (but without all the gross eugenics-type stuff) and they weren't primarily women's responsibility to raise. Or if men could pop out kids and then care for them in their infancy. That would be awesome. I bet I'd be a great dad!

tuesdaymarie
12-16-2015, 03:44 PM
^I've been wondering whether the idea of parents raising children will become obsolete one day. I think most people stop (temporarily or otherwise) growing in many ways once they're responsible for a mini human--it's just so time consuming! So I was wondering whether one day people would just devote their lives to becoming the best/most developed version of themselves, while future generations would be brought up by those who excel at childhood psychology and caring for kids. I mean, even the best parents on the planet fuck their kids up in some way or another. It would be interesting to see how the human condition would change if parenthood were no longer considered the norm.

simone87
12-16-2015, 04:18 PM
raising a child doesn't actually stop you from becoming a better you or developing as a person lol. trust me.

BambiCutie
12-16-2015, 04:47 PM
Heard actually that laying on your back/semi is not the proper way of giving birth and can result in complications. I love kids because they surprisingly take to me, but the flashes are very difficult when they become friendly/hugs/pulling and the stress/cornered feeling rush. If it were to ever take place (extremely doubtful) I would want a dark/dim room natural water birth, with no harsh lights, sounds/talking, grabbing or removing the baby. I would also request more than 15min before cutting for water cradle and to save the umbilical cord/placenta for eating.. (prob best I don't have kids, my bf reaction was priceless though!)

LeggingsQueen
12-16-2015, 04:57 PM
As of right now I don't want kids. Maybe that will change but not even thinking about that at this point in my lifel.

tuesdaymarie
12-16-2015, 05:43 PM
raising a child doesn't actually stop you from becoming a better you or developing as a person lol. trust me.

Raising another human takes a lot of time and other resources. It makes you grow in some ways I'm sure, but it is inherently limiting in others. There's a lot of debate, for example, about the effects of motherhood on female artists. Wasn't meant as an insult, but it's one of the reasons why I don't want kids--the topic of this thread.

Rosie0h!
12-16-2015, 05:45 PM
I don't want any kids either. I never liked children or had the patience for them and mental/physical illness and addiction runs rampant in my family. My child would probably have a difficult life off of that alone and I wouldn't want to put them through that.

Glamourmilf
12-16-2015, 05:55 PM
. I'm getting my tubes tied next week :)

I had my tubes tied( well Dr.actually severes them), 25 yrs ago. BEST decision I ever made! #noregrets

Cashmere Star
12-16-2015, 10:05 PM
^Not sure if you're "what the fuck"ing me or Selina's comment..?

Selina's story.

wish
12-18-2015, 06:18 PM
I must admit I didn't read this entire thread but I have A kid. I don't want any more. Honestly the only kid I like is mine.

Selina M
12-21-2015, 12:32 PM
^ There's only one kid I like, and that's my friend's son. He's 3 and I've seen him cry maybe twice, and at least one of those was fake and promptly stopped when nobody coddled him. He's really well-behaved too, like a little adult most of the time. You can see the wheels turning in his head, like "How do I get aunty to put me down" and then he'll say nicely "Down, please... Selina, please put me down... Thank you".

So maybe it depends on the kid and the parenting. I dunno.

That said, I still don't wanna spend my $$ on one or go through the physical process.

AlexiaRoss
12-23-2015, 02:39 AM
^I've been wondering whether the idea of parents raising children will become obsolete one day. I think most people stop (temporarily or otherwise) growing in many ways once they're responsible for a mini human--it's just so time consuming! So I was wondering whether one day people would just devote their lives to becoming the best/most developed version of themselves, while future generations would be brought up by those who excel at childhood psychology and caring for kids. I mean, even the best parents on the planet fuck their kids up in some way or another. It would be interesting to see how the human condition would change if parenthood were no longer considered the norm.


I am definitely one of the only ones of my friends who overall, has a general dislike for children. Okay I wouldn't call it a dislike, but other people's children just annoy me for whatever reason. The thing is: I have my own son, he is 16 months old, and I love him more than anything obviously. But other people's children, no thanks. I get annoyed even when I get out of the house for a few hours and hear other babies crying and screaming. I just don't fit the bill as one of those pinterest moms who makes crafts and bakes and who is basically a domestic goddess - I am nothing like that.

I often times question my ability to even be a good mom because I often feel like regardless of how much I would do for my son, I sometimes question whether or not that is enough. I never wanted kids growing up, and when I was 23 I found out I was 5 months pregnant and had no idea. I dont get regular periods and I never gained a pound until later on in my pregnancy, so it never crossed my mind. When I found out I was also suffering from an eating disorder that I was basically on the verge of dying from, which made everything that much more shocking to me.

My perspective on children is still the same in a lot of ways. I certainly wont be having any more because it would be unfair to another child and to myself. However, my son happening to me was by far the biggest blessing I have ever received. I say that with 100% sincerity. Had it not been for him, my fifteen year struggle with bulimia would have most likely taken my life. His life caused me to change my own, for the better. I have grown a lot since he has been born. I have really put in the work I needed to on getting myself better, and starting the life I want for myself.

Every situation and every person is different. What makes sense for me, would not make sense for everyone else. Yes having a child makes personal growth in a lot of ways more challenging. It certainly makes having a social life a bit more difficult. I do believe though that a child can promote self love and healing. In my case, my son made me grow into someone so much better than the person I was before. It is still a work in progress, and I still stand by being your own person and not just falling into the "mom" category.

tuesdaymarie
12-23-2015, 07:03 AM
^I think I may see motherhood as more of a burden than much else because that was what I witnessed as a child. My mother had four total (plus three miscarriages--I actually just found out about the third last week), and my youngest brother is severely mentally retarded. My mother had a lot of issues and would threaten suicide regularly, in large part due to having to be a mother. I know that's a pretty extreme situation, but I've never been able to shake those memories off.

FWIW, you sound like a good mother. So many parents are caught up in this weirdly competitive cookie-cutter image contest that their kids are suffering. My two nieces are made to volunteer every weekend and do multiple sports (for college applications, of course!), and their mother posts photos of their volunteerism online without fail. Yet their kids make fun of non-white manual laborers, and they make comments they don't even understand are racist and/or elitist. It's really sad, but you'd think they have these perfect little lives judging by their mother's FB posts. The oldest niece just got into huge shit because she called her mother out on being an obnoxious drunk at a family dinner. She just turned 13 and is having a lot of classic teenage angst moments, so I told my boyfriend we should probably prep a guest room for when she shows up on our doorstep with a suitcase.

Destinyfulfilled
05-06-2016, 03:34 PM
i want children for selfish reasons.

1. i am an only child
2. i am a woman.


my mom is 20 years older than me and m dad is 35 years older. chances are they will pass before i do.
i dont have any sibilings.
i am a woman so chances are my husband will die before me. there are more widows than widowers out there. fact. women have a longer life span than men.

now that my grandparents, aunts and uncles, parents and hubby are dead, with no siblings and children, who will bury me? how will my legacy live on? if i was a man with brothers and sisters and nephews and nieces i would probably remain childless. but alas. i am a woman. with no sibilings and will NEVER have nieces and nephews.


the only people left that will probably still be alive are my cousins. but they arents immediate family and i dont even speak to them they live in different countries

Optimist
05-14-2016, 10:22 AM
I am definitely one of the only ones of my friends who overall, has a general dislike for children. Okay I wouldn't call it a dislike, but other people's children just annoy me for whatever reason. The thing is: I have my own son, he is 16 months old, and I love him more than anything obviously. But other people's children, no thanks. I get annoyed even when I get out of the house for a few hours and hear other babies crying and screaming. I just don't fit the bill as one of those pinterest moms who makes crafts and bakes and who is basically a domestic goddess - I am nothing like that.

I often times question my ability to even be a good mom because I often feel like regardless of how much I would do for my son, I sometimes question whether or not that is enough. I never wanted kids growing up, and when I was 23 I found out I was 5 months pregnant and had no idea. I dont get regular periods and I never gained a pound until later on in my pregnancy, so it never crossed my mind. When I found out I was also suffering from an eating disorder that I was basically on the verge of dying from, which made everything that much more shocking to me.

My perspective on children is still the same in a lot of ways. I certainly wont be having any more because it would be unfair to another child and to myself. However, my son happening to me was by far the biggest blessing I have ever received. I say that with 100% sincerity. Had it not been for him, my fifteen year struggle with bulimia would have most likely taken my life. His life caused me to change my own, for the better. I have grown a lot since he has been born. I have really put in the work I needed to on getting myself better, and starting the life I want for myself.

Every situation and every person is different. What makes sense for me, would not make sense for everyone else. Yes having a child makes personal growth in a lot of ways more challenging. It certainly makes having a social life a bit more difficult. I do believe though that a child can promote self love and healing. In my case, my son made me grow into someone so much better than the person I was before. It is still a work in progress, and I still stand by being your own person and not just falling into the "mom" category.
That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing it.

LoveyDovey
05-14-2016, 11:53 PM
It's ok not to want kids. If you don't want them, don't have em. I have one and am open to having more. I love being a mom and I feel really lucky to have the kid I have.

Selina M
10-24-2016, 07:52 PM
Ok... Bumping because I just watched someone have a baby and I feel all weird and uncomfortable still.

They did this at home and the whole time I was just agitated at how they were eschewing modern medicine and putting her through hours of agony laying on the floor. The midwife fucked up and they ended up having to call paramedics afterwards because she was bleeding so bad. The EMTs wanted to bring the baby in too and the father was horrified. Why?! What is wrong with letting a doctor check it out?!

Then after it was born, both the father (SO's best friend) and SO were crying, and I was so uncomfortable. Like seriously stop, it's not a miracle, it's biology that every species does. I feel like I was being judged for not getting all mushy about it. I hate that everyone's logic goes totally out the window and all their emotions take over.

I've kinda gone into the "I probably do want a kid in another 5 years" camp but childbirth is so horrifying. Why have we not evolved a better way of this?!

SuperJa
10-24-2016, 08:19 PM
^^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_uterus

We've been working on it since the 50s so i'm sure it's pretty close to reality by now.

LoveyDovey
10-25-2016, 08:15 AM
When my kid was born, it did feel like a miracle and I was blown away by it. Maybe that's because it's my kid and other people just wouldn't have the same feelings since it didn't happen to them.

I never minded changing diapers or feeding. It was not fun getting up in the middle of the night, but you get used to it. Idk. I've enjoyed being a mom. It's a lot of work, but the rewards are huge. I look at my son and just love him so much. He's the only family I have and I'm just so grateful for him.

I'd be open to having one more, if I was married and financially prepared. Right now, no way would I have another baby.

I can definitely see how someone could be skeeved watching someone else give birth. It's just such a personal moment. When I gave birth I didn't want a huge audience. Just me and the father and doctors. Nobody else was there when we made the baby...and I didn't want anyone else there to watch the birth either.

KaraLynn
10-25-2016, 08:58 AM
*raises hand* me. I never wanted kids. I've had relationships not work because of it.

seashell
10-25-2016, 11:10 AM
I'm in the camp of maybe wanting kids, but never giving birth. I've always pictured myself adopting. A few of my friends growing up were adopted, and I think it would feel so good to give a home to a child who needs it.

MzBlondie
10-25-2016, 06:07 PM
My friend is in her 30's and doesn't want kids. I always wanted a daughter and got one! But I don't want anymore kids. One is good for me lol

ShyStripper
10-26-2016, 02:27 AM
Do not want!

Elektra Luxx
10-31-2016, 10:26 AM
My sister is due today, so I will be an finally be an aunt. I've seen all the things that being pregnant is doing to my sister. She has always been very concious of her looks. She has deep, red stretch marks on her tummy, she's had swollen feet and she is very uncomfortable and can't sleep, so she looks tired. She had morning sickness for the first 3 months of her pregnancy, it been fun for her at all. But I still want kids. I want to be a soccer mom and drive a van and take my kids to school, volleyball practice, dance classes and piano lessons.

KikiGem
10-31-2016, 11:37 AM
Its so funny how we all differ. Me, I actually *want* to be pregnant, someday. I want to experience that. However, I dread becoming a "mom." A lot of the moms I know and see are really unhappy and cranky all the time, shouting things like "Let's go poopy in the potty!" in the middle of restaurants. Ugh.

My solution? I'll have the kids, but only when I'm rich enough to hire a nanny and leave the kids for a few days if I need to.

TheOutlier
10-31-2016, 01:34 PM
Tbh, even though I had a kid and it ended badly (Not really going into details), I would still say "No, I don't want kids". I love babysitting, I loved working in the infant room in a daycare but there's just so many reasons I don't want to parent.

My health longtime is iffy and it feels bad to put it on a kid, I HATE the "mommy groups", the world feels too unstable to force another being into it, pregnancy itself was a nightmare for me (I did not enjoy the whole "alien kicking inside me" feeling), and I'd prefer to have control over my space/money/life without worrying how it affects a kid.

Have found quite a bit of good info by reading the Childfree Redd*t too.

bbwbrianna
11-01-2016, 04:25 PM
I fucking love this thread. Kids are a money pit. Just ask my parents! I am sick of single mothers assuming I am miserable or there must be something wrong with me because I'm a 30 year old bag who still hasn't squeezed a hanger monkey out of my hot pocket. I do not find a screaming hanger monkey that shits and vomits all day cute. I do not find it cute that I have to change their diapers and clean up after them. I do not find their yelling and running around cute. I don't understand the appeal of tearing up ones vagina to have kids. They are obnoxious and thankless little shits who will tell you to fuck off when they get older and join gangs while they stick needles in their skin. If you love them they will not love you back.

miss.a.p1600
11-01-2016, 05:07 PM
Omg I am getting a chuckle reading these responses.

I agree. The worst is to sacrifice so much to have a kid cause society tells you your life isn't complete without 2.5 kids only to have the kids father leave/divorce you and/or have them turn out as druggies, drunks, or uncontrollable menaces to society.

I saw this woman who had six kids, single mom, all different dads, and her last kid was a demon seed. She looked so tired and just done with having To come pick up her kid who terrorized the class daily.

I want a kid but not a badassed disrespectful demon. #nannies #bootcamp #ibroughtyouinthisworldilltakeyouout #boardingschool #surrogatecauseicantstretchthisprettybodyandpussy
#illbedamnedifadudeleavemetoraisethiscrumbsnatcher alone
#ironcladprenupifyoueventryit

PrincessfromHell
11-01-2016, 06:34 PM
I dont want kids I never really wanted, no marriage for me either unless it is for money (I'd marry a rich cuck guy anytime any day. send one my way). I am not capable of loving a man hard enough for wanting to have a baby with him. I literally have zero instict for breeding. I never dreamed of white dress/husband/family even when I was a little girl, a teen etc. Like literally never.
And little copies of me - I have some mercy for the world lol.
People can call me an "old maid", "you will end up as crazy cat lady" etc. I cant care less. I love living alone, though I had lived with my bfs for years in the past I have had too much I cant anymore. Now I just avoid "serious" relationships and tell guys straight forward I am a sociopath and I dont believe in marriage nor kids. Some cry me a river, some try to change that, some run away...whatever.
No kids for me.

bbwbrianna
11-01-2016, 09:21 PM
I dont want kids I never really wanted, no marriage for me either unless it is for money (I'd marry a rich cuck guy anytime any day. send one my way). I am not capable of loving a man hard enough for wanting to have a baby with him. I literally have zero instict for breeding. I never dreamed of white dress/husband/family even when I was a little girl, a teen etc. Like literally never.
And little copies of me - I have some mercy for the world lol.
People can call me an "old maid", "you will end up as crazy cat lady" etc. I cant care less. I love living alone, though I had lived with my bfs for years in the past I have had too much I cant anymore. Now I just avoid "serious" relationships and tell guys straight forward I am a sociopath and I dont believe in marriage nor kids. Some cry me a river, some try to change that, some run away...whatever.
No kids for me.

It's 2016. Why is everyone hell bent on getting married and living together? None of my female friends can handle being alone for more than a day and have to be everywhere with their boyfriends, they probably hold their dicks when they piss. They can't keep their financial game together and end up going on food stamps because their kids are costing them their very souls and their boyfriends are deadbeat losers who can't and won't work. And yet theres something wrong with me because I refuse to live with a man and throw away my money on demonspawn. Living alone is awesome. I can always count on coming home to a clean apartment and everything is exactly where I left it. I don't worry about anyone cheaping out on me with bills because I'm responsible for them. I don't have to worry about who does what for chores because I'm cleaning everything and it's done the way I like it. If I want to be left alone I can sit in complete silence and nobody will bother me. As far as having kids goes, if it means I don't get time to myself and all my finances are tied up taking care of them and I do what I need to do without worrying about bastard hell spawn and working around their schedule. Sometimes I feel my asshole friends who put me down for not being a baby farm are just jealous of my freedom.

LoveyDovey
11-01-2016, 09:31 PM
I'm just grateful that the one I have is a good one. He is my only child, a sweet, smart, handsome little nerd. Well, not so little as he is 15 now. He's on the honor roll. No drinking, smoking, drugs. Is content to chill at home and behaves himself when out with friends. When I was his age, I was sneaking out late at night to get drunk and stoned with my friends who were 10 years older than me. He's never even broken or lost a cell phone, yet I break/lose all of mine. It's embarrassing! He is so funny, especially when interacting with his friends. Just hope he grows up to live a happy life. He did drive me insane when he was 2-3 years old with his tantrums. Good God that stage was awful! But now he is a cool young man and I'm so proud to call him my son. I don't mean to brag. I just really appreciate him is all.

In a way I'm scared to have more.What if my next one turns out to be a total crackpot? I don't wanna tempt fate lol. Better quit while I'm ahead!

LoveyDovey
11-01-2016, 09:35 PM
It's 2016. Why is everyone hell bent on getting married and living together? None of my female friends can handle being alone for more than a day and have to be everywhere with their boyfriends, they probably hold their dicks when they piss. They can't keep their financial game together and end up going on food stamps because their kids are costing them their very souls and their boyfriends are deadbeat losers who can't and won't work. And yet theres something wrong with me because I refuse to live with a man and throw away my money on demonspawn. Living alone is awesome. I can always count on coming home to a clean apartment and everything is exactly where I left it. I don't worry about anyone cheaping out on me with bills because I'm responsible for them. I don't have to worry about who does what for chores because I'm cleaning everything and it's done the way I like it. If I want to be left alone I can sit in complete silence and nobody will bother me. As far as having kids goes, if it means I don't get time to myself and all my finances are tied up taking care of them and I do what I need to do without worrying about bastard hell spawn and working around their schedule. Sometimes I feel my asshole friends who put me down for not being a baby farm are just jealous of my freedom.

When my son is at his Dad's I really value my alone time. You really need it to recharge. I love being alone.

Selina M
12-31-2016, 02:30 PM
Bumpity bump again, cause this fit this thread more than Random Thoughts or Annoyances.

I am SO tired of every month, waiting to bleed so I can say "Whew! Not knocked up". It's super lame that no birth control is totally effective. If you look at my friends kids, none were planned, and all of them were either condom babies or pill/shot babies.

Might be worth it to get health insurance since now the tubal ligations are covered... Hmm.

Also, I've started becoming horrified by how people are so *obsessed* with their newborns, like to the point they can't think clearly. It freaks me out even more that it's a biological chemical adjustment so that you'll want to take care of it, and that your brain will basically let itself be completely hijacked.

I got in an argument with the person I mentioned in a prior post who just had a baby. Prior to that, he was pretty rational and pro-choice, but now he is utterly horrified by the idea of abortions... he got overemotional like "What if that had been my daughter?!" and suddenly became religious. What in the hell?!

Elektra Luxx
12-31-2016, 07:41 PM
I'm starting to rethink this myself. My sister just had a baby and I love her to death, but I'm seeing for myself how demanding baby are. My sister is a great mom, but she tired all time even though she sleeps whenever the baby sleeps. I took the holidays off and Ive been staying over to help, so my sister can get some rest and I'm getting a new perspective on having kids.

DamnJolene
01-05-2017, 05:16 PM
Is this thread still relevant like, or too old like "Dark Horse" by Katy Perry?

I jest. I am on the fence about this... I would like to have children, but I honestly don't think I should do it... I am too lazy, confuse, messed up too handle it all "the way I would want to handle it". If I was married to a strong educated man, who could handle my messed up situation, then I would do it! But I would be the perfect housewife, that's all I ever want to be, and I could be a simple loving mother... but otherwise, I am too messed up for my own good.

I wouldn't mind adopting kids that wouldn't have a chance regardless, anyone who really doesn't have a chance. It's hard to say... I just know I am capable of being loving mother, but I am not sure if I am a good mother. (loving and being a good mother are two different things).

I seen this a few years ago, but I know that mother loved her daughter, and I think that's a kind of mother I would be.... (not same predicaments, but I am really messed up)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pvP-T0U_ts

DamnJolene
01-05-2017, 05:38 PM
Also this reminded me of one of Kirstie Alley best movie, Profoundly Normal.

We take life for granted sometimes at 3:55..... they were proud about working at McDonalds.... I don't know the suffering of this! (best 16 minutes of your life; I promise you!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv2TR4dwX3Y&t=23s

Lady Xplicit18
01-18-2017, 06:28 PM
I would always go back and forth on wanting a baby or not until I got pregnant a year ago. It literally changed my life in ways I couldn't imagine and I wouldn't trade it for anything. My baby literally saved my life from how it was before. Having a child definitely isn't for the faint of heart though...

buttonpop
01-18-2017, 07:27 PM
I was rewatching the tv show Weeds and in one of the later seasons Nancy is arguing with her sister about how her sister used her children to have a purpose and not have to be a person for 18 years, because she was fundamentally a coward.

I don't mean to insult anyone who has children or wants that lifestyle, but for me personally I feel like having children would do the same thing to me. It would give me an excuse to stop working on my ambitions and myself as a person, and meanwhile I can justifying it because what I'm doing is seen by society as morally good.

I also recognize that having your own children (as opposed to adopting) is one of the worst things you can do for the environment. Global population increase is the single biggest threat to humanity and global warming could be essentially reversed, even while maintaining a high standard of living, if global populations would decrease to 0.5 billion or so. This could be possible through decreasing birth rates which happens naturally when you give women access to birth control, education, political & social power, and career opportunities.

I think its very unfortunate that voluntary sterilization, hysterectomy and tube tying isn't generally available options for women. Getting a partial hysterectomy is one of the best things that ever happened to me, even though the circumstances were tragic. I no longer have horrible periods or cramps and I am never worried about an accidental pregnancy.

By the way, If abortion does become illegal under Trump, and anyone needs access to information about emergency contraception, please PM me. I have lots of information about herbal ways to induce your period, but you have to act very fast before the zygote implants to your uterine wall.

Vyanka
01-19-2017, 01:52 AM
I fucking love this thread. Kids are a money pit. Just ask my parents! I am sick of single mothers assuming I am miserable or there must be something wrong with me because I'm a 30 year old bag who still hasn't squeezed a hanger monkey out of my hot pocket. I do not find a screaming hanger monkey that shits and vomits all day cute. I do not find it cute that I have to change their diapers and clean up after them. I do not find their yelling and running around cute. I don't understand the appeal of tearing up ones vagina to have kids. They are obnoxious and thankless little shits who will tell you to fuck off when they get older and join gangs while they stick needles in their skin. If you love them they will not love you back.

Haha. This made me want to ask my mom to forgive me for being a difficult asshole child through teen years. Lol. I do love her very much tho.

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-19-2017, 09:25 AM
Ok... Bumping because I just watched someone have a baby and I feel all weird and uncomfortable still.

They did this at home and the whole time I was just agitated at how they were eschewing modern medicine and putting her through hours of agony laying on the floor. The midwife fucked up and they ended up having to call paramedics afterwards because she was bleeding so bad. The EMTs wanted to bring the baby in too and the father was horrified. Why?! What is wrong with letting a doctor check it out?!

Then after it was born, both the father (SO's best friend) and SO were crying, and I was so uncomfortable. Like seriously stop, it's not a miracle, it's biology that every species does. I feel like I was being judged for not getting all mushy about it. I hate that everyone's logic goes totally out the window and all their emotions take over.

I've kinda gone into the "I probably do want a kid in another 5 years" camp but childbirth is so horrifying. Why have we not evolved a better way of this?!

ughh that hurt to read....yes home birth has become trendy but a lot of these followers of home birth don't weigh medical considerations into the plan (like risk factors for the mother.) I knew a hippy dippy dude who was all into that but it was an extension of his philosophy of "womyn is a pussymachine 4 MEEE" Millenial douche hippiedom.

Back on topic I'm childfree since my mom's side of the family has a lot of genes for mental illness in the mix. Yeahhh..no thanks.

minniesoporno
01-19-2017, 09:38 AM
I know I don't want any kids I have already set up the appointments for my tub-ligation. but I am in Canada its just a matter of having the right doctor to set up the referral.

I do wonder sometimes once its done what the hell am I going to do with my life, but I know bringing a kid into the mix isn't going to make things easier.