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chanzep
12-20-2021, 09:01 PM
Spring Valley has good stuff . I use their Collagen with vitamin C and Melatonin.

whirlerz
12-21-2021, 07:29 AM
The problem with skincare is its marketed to everyone, regardless of concern or age..

I get that procedures come into play, but can't afford right now..

So, trying to go the clean skincare route..
Considering African Botanics, Nanette de Gaspe, &
https://www.dieuxskin.com/blogs/beauty/meet-deliverance

whirlerz
12-21-2021, 10:32 AM
Damn!
LOL, what I already knew, none of the topical shit works :(

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/plastic-surgeon-calls-popular-luxury-161827614.html

charlie61
12-21-2021, 10:51 AM
^yes, it's almost disappointing to realize that there are very few skincare ingredients that offer real results. Tretinoin is one of them, and it's extremely inexpensive.

whirlerz
12-21-2021, 01:30 PM
^yes, it's almost disappointing to realize that there are very few skincare ingredients that offer real results. Tretinoin is one of them, and it's extremely inexpensive.




TY charlie!
Is that retinol?

charlie61
12-21-2021, 02:23 PM
TY charlie!
Is that retinol?

Yes, it's the prescription form of retinol. A tube lasts forever since you don't use it every day. And there are sites that offer tretinoin prescriptions if you don't have a doctor, like Curology. I've heard good things about them, though I've never used their service since i get tretinoin through my insurance.

Anything that gives real results takes consistency and time. Tretinoin will take 6-12 months to show significant results, and 1-3 months for modest results (like clearing acne). But most people take a lot of time to titrate onto it, since you'll definitely have side effects if you rush into it (peeling, redness). Most people never go onto it because they fear side effects, but retinols are one of the only things that's been proven to address real skin problems, like acne, scarring, aging...

whirlerz
12-21-2021, 03:20 PM
I dk about going to a (skin/derm) Dr, aren't the over the counter things close ?

I saw this, it has infer-red, LED light
https://www.nordstrom.com/s/silkn-titan-skin-tightening-lifting-device/4768689

whirlerz
12-21-2021, 03:29 PM
https://www.instyle.com/beauty/best-anti-aging-treatments-2022

charlie61
12-21-2021, 03:50 PM
People would rather buy a sexy moisturizer than look into one of the only ingredients that has proven results, lol. Consistent retinol use isn't fun or exciting, but it can't be beat.

Curology is a great option for anyone who doesn't want to go to a doctor or dermatologist for the Rx.

whirlerz
12-21-2021, 04:49 PM
OK, is that a skincare brand?
Cureolgy?

charlie61
12-21-2021, 06:03 PM
OK, is that a skincare brand?
Cureolgy?

Internet search bb! It's a customized skincare brand that can prescribe. I don't use them but have only heard great things.

https://curology.com/

Review from a gal who can be trusted:

https://youtu.be/cveccBhPz-0

chanzep
12-21-2021, 06:47 PM
I have cureolgy it's good.

Luci Fer
12-21-2021, 07:10 PM
ok... NYX eyeshadows suck! They don't stay on eyelids even for 10 minutes, even with motherfucking base! I hate them.

carmen_b
12-22-2021, 10:18 AM
Can not decide what direction to go with hair. I know it needs to stay long.
Beyond that it's medium blonde now ( natural color ) but looking dull due to color ( red ) fading out from last Sept.

I can't decide if I should just put more red onto it ( partner loves it and it's unique in the club ) OR if I should go more three dimensional with red , light brown, and blonde tones mixed in.

carmen_b
12-22-2021, 10:24 AM
Hmmm maybe I will just go the solid color.
I feel like once a stylist takes those foil things out you are looking at like 5 years in the chair. :/

charlie61
12-22-2021, 10:59 AM
Hmmm maybe I will just go the solid color.
I feel like once a stylist takes those foil things out you are looking at like 5 years in the chair. :/

Yeah, the multicolored thing sounds cool but could end up looking antiquated, kind of 90s-ish

whirlerz
12-22-2021, 11:34 AM
I just saw this, shelf life for beauty products https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/yes-beauty-products-expire-know-201800806.html

whirlerz
12-22-2021, 11:55 AM
Carmen, I used a really good color shampoo, in my case I had fading high lights, + I do my own touch ups, (slightly darker base color so it further darkens highlights)

It really made a difference, the color shampoo, brightening up my color.

U may want something different, but just an idea

Genoveve
12-22-2021, 03:23 PM
Can not decide what direction to go with hair.

Same. I was ginger red for a while then decided I wanted a deep auburn, like the deepest shade of red that could be naturally occurring, and it ended up coming out that super fake cherry cola red with a purple undertone color. I think it looks fine on camera but once I'm in really bright light it's just soooooo fake and very 'strippery' I feel so I'm not into it. This is actually the only time in my life that I've ever had a completely unnatural hair color. I just got a lighter warm brown semi-permanent dye, I'm thinking that putting that over this once it fades some more will get me closer to what I was originally wanting. Although now I'm starting to like super bright orangey red shades.....

chanzep
12-22-2021, 06:46 PM
Go really blond or really red.

charlie61
12-22-2021, 06:58 PM
Go really blond or really red.

Agreed, especially if you're doing it for dancing, partially. Men feel more comfortable and attracted ITC when you fall into a definitive category, and it really makes you stick out in club lighting.

LoveyD
12-25-2021, 12:36 PM
Spring Valley has good stuff . I use their Collagen with vitamin C and Melatonin.

I like their collagen+ C too! Works well with the serum.

charlie61
12-25-2021, 07:58 PM
I use disposable mascara wands to remove invisible floating hairs from my face. You know how when you put makeup on or have just finished your skincare routine, and you can feel a tiny hair / fuzzy on your skin? Those suckers are so hard to find, and you don't want to wipe your skin products off in your search to remove the hair. Those mascara wands are perfect for removal!

indiegirl
12-25-2021, 08:23 PM
Okay...so any thoughts on these. I had someone today bring up nuubu detox foot pads. (Overnight they turn the foot pads black from detoxifying the body..allegedly). I honestly think it's a hoax but many positive reviews on Amazon from other foot detox pads so I dunno. She's trying to help detoxify his body more because his kidneys and liver are working overtime and getting worse with all of his issues (he's old) and she's trying whatever she can.

He said he felt some sort of release from his body in his sleep from them (dunno if it's the placebo affect)....thoughts or experiences? I'm going to look around for videos on youtube which actually show it is or not a scam. That's so fucked to be selling these to people if it is fake.

charlie61
12-25-2021, 11:57 PM
^That is a total scam.

whirlerz
12-26-2021, 01:02 AM
^That is a total scam.

My spam I box's full of them^

indiegirl
12-26-2021, 05:24 AM
^That is a total scam.

I don't get why people prey on those trying to be healthier. Kinda surprising how many fairly decent reviews they have on amazon for these detox foot pads.

Cutie101
12-26-2021, 05:31 AM
I don't get why people prey on those trying to be healthier. Kinda surprising how many fairly decent reviews they have on amazon for these detox foot pads.

All of this detox industry is a whole scam overall. It's pretty simple: if the body wouldn't be able to detoxify itself, we would all rot and die, lol. That's why we pee and poo :)))) We have the logic in front of our eyes and sometimes we don't see it. I did fall for this shit a while ago, when i realized the logic lol.
As time as we eat healthy food, our body is able to take care of itself and detoxify. Basically, eating healthy is body detox because we don't put junk in it hahahaha!

JessaJade
12-26-2021, 06:06 AM
I use disposable mascara wands to remove invisible floating hairs from my face. You know how when you put makeup on or have just finished your skincare routine, and you can feel a tiny hair / fuzzy on your skin? Those suckers are so hard to find, and you don't want to wipe your skin products off in your search to remove the hair. Those mascara wands are perfect for removal!

I love this. That actually drives me insane, especially when I can't find it after trying and looking for it. I can't go about my day until its gone.

charlie61
12-26-2021, 12:50 PM
I love this. That actually drives me insane, especially when I can't find it after trying and looking for it. I can't go about my day until its gone.

I'm the same way. I have mini freakouts when i can feel a tiny fuzz on my face, ack!! And i don't want to be touching my face with my fingers (best to avoid that whenever possible). Those cheap, disposable mascara wands are a godsend for brushing up eyebrows and for fuzz removal. I just lightly drag it over the area where i can feel the fuzzy, and voila! It picks it up!

charlie61
12-26-2021, 12:52 PM
All of this detox industry is a whole scam overall. It's pretty simple: if the body wouldn't be able to detoxify itself, we would all rot and die, lol. That's why we pee and poo :)))) We have the logic in front of our eyes and sometimes we don't see it. I did fall for this shit a while ago, when i realized the logic lol.
As time as we eat healthy food, our body is able to take care of itself and detoxify. Basically, eating healthy is body detox because we don't put junk in it hahahaha!

Couldn't have said it better myself. I really try not to discourage anyone from self care, as long as it isn't harmful, because sometimes it's more about the ritual and mild placebo effect than anything else. But seeing stuff like that is just irritating. Yeah, spend your money on a fancy green juice instead!

whirlerz
12-26-2021, 01:16 PM
If you really want a cleanse, simply eat some fresh grapefruit sections, drink a cup of coffee.
Drink water, as the highly acidic gf can bother teeth, also it might be too acidic for some tummies.

This was actually a diet, you can have an egg & toast for the breakfast, Idk what the lunch & dinner diets are

If you take any meds, check w/your Dr.
Grapefruit is very powerful & has an effect on meds.

I try to include liver loving foods in my diet, leafy greens, artichokes, anything bitter

caramelcraze
12-27-2021, 02:37 AM
I have had one hell of a time finding a bronzer that doesn't pull orange. Like i've purchased at least half a dozen in the past couple years that just didn't work for my skin tone. Recently got the LYS No Limits Matte Bronzer (https://lysbeauty.com/collections/all/products/no-limits-matte-bronzer?variant=37667582738597) and HOLY SH*T!!! It doesn't pull orange on me! It's also talc free :D

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12-27-2021, 02:40 AM
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whirlerz
12-28-2021, 11:37 AM
Guide to fillers:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/best-guide-face-fillers-youll-160000984.html

whirlerz
12-29-2021, 01:13 PM
For irritated skin:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ceramides-unsung-heroes-irritated-skin-165400015.html

JessaJade
12-30-2021, 01:58 PM
I ordered some Bakuchiol serum today. It is supposed to be a good alternative to Retinol (which I avoid due to having rosacea) - looking forward to trying it.

Also, my latest random thing to obsess over is the beginnings of neck wrinkles. I've been aware of the importance of looking after the neck for many years but TBH probably have only been half-hearted about it as I didn't see any ageing until recently. I can see some of the 'rings' on my neck look more pronounced, but they're not too horrific - I'm actually just more irritated that the lines are asymmetrical.

I'm sure that's normal but it doesn't stop it being irritating. LOL. I will have adjusted and be obsessing over something else within a few weeks.

JessaJade
12-30-2021, 02:10 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone used any Barbara Sturm or Shani Darden (or other dermatologists/aestheticians) products?

Sugarsteepdoll
12-30-2021, 02:14 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone used any Barbara Sturm or Shani Darden (or other dermatologists/aestheticians) products?

The Sturm products are way overpriced for what they are. I used to work at the Chanel counter and had way too much time playing with many products. :P

charlie61
12-30-2021, 02:31 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone used any Barbara Sturm or Shani Darden (or other dermatologists/aestheticians) products?

I do have Shani Darden's face wand. I'll be honest, i only use it when I'm feeling tension in my face, rather than as a daily tool to promote blood flow and whatnot. It's straight up a vibrator for your face and can be pretty intense at the highest setting. I'll say definitely not worth it as an overpriced face vibrator. People say it feels amazing and is so relaxing, but for me, it's like taking my Hitachi and putting it on my face. Not painful, but i wouldn't say that it feels amazing.

I'm sure some people see some results by using it daily, but i find it unpleasant and loud to use...(you're using it on your face, so the noise it makes is amplified, making it harder to do it while watching TV). I'd rather use the Nuface for my device time in the evenings (i use all three heads on the Trinity - the red light in one spot on my forehead for fine lines, the balls on my neck and sides of my face, and the prongs on my forehead and around my mouth).

kamiliam
12-30-2021, 03:09 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone used any Barbara Sturm or Shani Darden (or other dermatologists/aestheticians) products?


shani’s retinol product is nice worth a try if prescription is too much, not a stand out though.

strum is overhyped by celebrities but not worth a quarter of its price. Take a look at what she has her doctorate in.

JessaJade
12-30-2021, 03:09 PM
The Sturm products are way overpriced for what they are. I used to work at the Chanel counter and had way too much time playing with many products. :P

Yeah, in fairness I haven't looked properly but when I was skimming through some products earlier I saw a hyaluronic serum for £650...um, what else could possibly be in it to justify that pricetag?

charlie61
12-30-2021, 03:32 PM
Yeah, in fairness I haven't looked properly but when I was skimming through some products earlier I saw a hyaluronic serum for £650...um, what else could possibly be in it to justify that pricetag?

Yeah, people tend to value stuff more when it costs more - we know this from sex work and skincare!

caramelcraze
12-30-2021, 08:27 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone used any Barbara Sturm or Shani Darden (or other dermatologists/aestheticians) products?

I'm a BIG Kate Somerville product fan. ExfoliKate is my ride or die face wash. Went from having quite a bit of acne to nearly none in a few weeks and have never looked back. EradiKate is also a great face wash.
Oddly, my favorite skincare product is made by a gastroenterologist. Tula makes incredible products in general, but their pro-glycolic acid toner is jaw dropping. bought it on a whim and nothing compares imo. my skin is so much clearer and dark spots are a thing of the past! Love it!

charlie61
01-03-2022, 09:17 AM
Wanted to mention that Agency is a competing company to Curology, for anyone looking into online tretinoin prescribers. Worth researching / comparing.

indiegirl
01-03-2022, 10:29 AM
I'm officially buying a silk blanket to put on hotel pillows. I have had this new hair since only November. This is bullshit. It has broken ends from sex and I am angry. This wasn't cheap. My second hair selection is on the way that is blonder and I'm treating it like gold. So angry!! I even put argan oil in it daily, and treated it gently with absolutely no hair washing/ hair drying (it's take out hair for work only). So mad. Lasting this little is RIDICULOUS in the $1400-1600 range for hair.

The one arriving is 1630 bucks. The price changed and I adapted. I'm just so angry!!! I thought I was doing everything right for the hair. I dunno, maybe it's the rough sex. It's not average sex.

I hate my roommates, they use cheap ass pantene prov for their hair and their hair is strong and gorgeous with no hair additions MEANWHILE I can't maintain hair with expensive crap.

charlie61
01-03-2022, 12:08 PM
I'm officially buying a silk blanket to put on hotel pillows. I have had this new hair since only November. This is bullshit. It has broken ends from sex and I am angry. This wasn't cheap. My second hair selection is on the way that is blonder and I'm treating it like gold. So angry!! I even put argan oil in it daily, and treated it gently with absolutely no hair washing/ hair drying (it's take out hair for work only). So mad. Lasting this little is RIDICULOUS in the $1400-1600 range for hair.

The one arriving is 1630 bucks. The price changed and I adapted. I'm just so angry!!! I thought I was doing everything right for the hair. I dunno, maybe it's the rough sex. It's not average sex.

I hate my roommates, they use cheap ass pantene prov for their hair and their hair is strong and gorgeous with no hair additions MEANWHILE I can't maintain hair with expensive crap.

Girl, yes, the mechanical damage from that much missionary sex is brutal on hair. And you've been super busy! My hair would be wrecked. Silk should help.

You honestly might save a buck and look into satin / polyester, as it'll likely be even smoother and more silky than real silk. You want something that's as smooth as possible. Real silk is silky, but it's a natural product, so synthetic fibers can't be beat for overall smoothness factor. You aren't going to be sleeping on the blanket you buy, so the skincare benefits that come with real silk just aren't the priority.

whirlerz
01-03-2022, 12:40 PM
I

Oddly, my favorite skincare product is made by a gastroenterologist. Tula makes incredible products in general, but their pro-glycolic acid toner is jaw dropping. bought it on a whim and nothing compares imo. my skin is so much clearer and dark spots are a thing of the past! Love it!..

I didn't know that about Tula
. I LOVE my gastro Dr!
He's a highly intelligent, (but humble) Dr.. I heard Sturm isn't that great also.

indiegirl
01-03-2022, 10:18 PM
Girl, yes, the mechanical damage from that much missionary sex is brutal on hair. And you've been super busy! My hair would be wrecked. Silk should help.

You honestly might save a buck and look into satin / polyester, as it'll likely be even smoother and more silky than real silk. You want something that's as smooth as possible. Real silk is silky, but it's a natural product, so synthetic fibers can't be beat for overall smoothness factor. You aren't going to be sleeping on the blanket you buy, so the skincare benefits that come with real silk just aren't the priority.

Sometimes I think a lot of places have fake silk pillows online because it's cheaper, maybe it's just me being stupid. I read a review online about the copper pillow cases not having actual copper in it and she tested it.

I ended up going with actual king sized pillow cases because the silk blanket was more expensive. These seem nice but my only issue is they say the product is smoother and shinier now.

AHH shit, I just double checked....it says it's a polyester/polyester blend. Not sure why they advertised it as silk and then satin. I'm confused why they're advertising it as silk? Hopefully these pillowcases are as good for hair or do ya think I should cancel the order? I know nothing about these type of things lol.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MDP43PV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

charlie61
01-03-2022, 10:40 PM
Sometimes I think a lot of places have fake silk pillows online because it's cheaper, maybe it's just me being stupid. I read a review online about the copper pillow cases not having actual copper in it and she tested it.

I ended up going with actual king sized pillow cases because the silk blanket was more expensive. These seem nice but my only issue is they say the product is smoother and shinier now.

AHH shit, I just double checked....it says it's a polyester/polyester blend. Not sure why they advertised it as silk and then satin. I'm confused why they're advertising it as silk? Hopefully these pillowcases are as good for hair or do ya think I should cancel the order? I know nothing about these type of things lol.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MDP43PV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's what i was telling you! Real silk is not as smooth as the poly blends out there sold as satin / silk. If you were buying something expensive to use for your home, sure, buy 100% mulberry silk (Costco had 100% mulberry silk pillowcases on sale recently for around $40/pillowcase, which is a killer deal).

But for protecting your hair during sex, a satin poly blanket or similar would probably work better and cost way less. They are much smoother than real silk.