View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
maddiebabe
05-24-2017, 05:48 AM
I started a show I was really getting into (fetish c2c show with a sub) and lost the show b/c I lost his cam and I was lagging bad for him apparently. It was good the first few mins tho
I agree placement is all over the place lately. I go anywhere from page 1-5 today/yesterday.
Holly_xoxo
05-24-2017, 05:53 AM
I noticed even after being on page three when normally on page one.. it took about an hour before I was back on page one and back in my normal placement, I don't think this has anything to do with chrome, because if that was the case wouldn't we all just sit in the bad places to begin with? would it fluctuate so much? today's my last day camming normal since my kids will be out of school so its not going to matter to me much any more. and I don't know if I'm going to come back. I can see by my taxes what camming was when I started 5 years ago and what it has dropped down to. I am tired of giving my time to sm when we get nothing but issues with the site with them not caring. and them rolling out stupid "improvements" that don't mean much of anything to us.
I hope they do improve things, but they haven't yet, they are loosing good customers every day, guys are saying it. they are going elsewhere, and I don't see the new ones spending like the old customers do... but maybe thats just me
I've had at least a dozen men that at one time were regulars tell me they weren't coming on the site anymore. I'm not sure what the exact issues were for them but they weren't happy.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-24-2017, 05:54 AM
I'm not saying the placement issue is due to Chrome. I think the streaming quality is different from browser to browser. Chrome on Android was perfect. Desktop not pretty at all. Who know's whats behind everyone being so scrambled these days? If I had more time I would splitcam at a lower resolution on sm and not give two fuks about placement. Even on a good day placement doesn't always equate to high earning. That's something for you guys to think about. If you're not able to splitcam at 1280x720 to get the boost but have only done SM at high settings, maybe try lowering your resolution? Yes your placement will drop but what's it really matter if it's messed up these days anyway?
maddiebabe
05-24-2017, 06:02 AM
Is there a difference between 1024x576 and 1280x720 lol. I usually do the first as I splitcam and SMB assrapes me with CPU usage sometimes
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-24-2017, 06:11 AM
1280x720 is the standard. It's what SM wants you to stream at but can be very taxing on your processor if it's not strong enough. So it 1024x576 is too much for you then try a lower resolution. But you will need to use one of the other encoders. FMLE or OBS to splitcam.
maddiebabe
05-24-2017, 06:18 AM
I use 2 cams bb. I know SMB needs it own dedicated cam. <3 ty tho I'll try the bigger resolution but might go back to teh smaller one
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-24-2017, 12:04 PM
I use 2 cams bb. I know SMB needs it own dedicated cam. <3 ty tho I'll try the bigger resolution but might go back to teh smaller one
I'm mostly speaking to models with slower processors and slow internet. Splitcamming is still possible you just may have to use a lower resolution to make it work. Two cams can work on some setups but if you're one of the peeps with 2 C920's, adjustments arent always possible. You may have to decide which site gets the beautified version and who gets the fugly stand in. Not using wide screen can still ensure you have a clear screen and use less computer usage.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-24-2017, 12:11 PM
Im on my phone so part 2
If you're online for hours following all the "rules" and its still not paying off its time to think differently. Just because SM wants you to do things a certain way doesnt mean thats how you should do it. Try other encoders and settings.
imelly21
05-24-2017, 01:40 PM
NEW SM broadcaster version!! Heads up.
Sunnylexie
05-24-2017, 01:43 PM
Streamate theme song these days:
https://youtu.be/Fl0ahDKR0QU
Holly_xoxo
05-24-2017, 02:15 PM
NEW SM broadcaster version!! Heads up.
Ack! There's a new one? I'm still using the 14 because the other one's overheat my computer.
hotmodel
05-24-2017, 03:08 PM
Do u girls think having sound on still plays a part in placement?
Marina Starr
05-24-2017, 03:12 PM
Not big but it does help if your audio shows 'yes' under ranking report at the bottom right. I barely cam with sound.
Do u girls think having sound on still plays a part in placement?
imelly21
05-24-2017, 04:57 PM
Ack! There's a new one? I'm still using the 14 because the other one's overheat my computer.
The new one is version 21:O
HollyJaydeXXX
05-24-2017, 05:12 PM
Doesn't streamate sell gold private and exclusive to porn hub? Anyone tried soda cam? Or do all sights sell to porn hub
They probably do, but probably dont "sell" them for money... it's a way to advertise... a poor way IMHO.
However a lot of the cam videos are from guys who record the shows they watch. I saw one yesterday that was like a camera filming the computer screen while a gold show was happening. It started during countdown and went all the way through.
Makes me want to only do $1000 shows if they are probably going to end up on tube sites.
Holly_xoxo
05-24-2017, 05:36 PM
The new one is version 21:O
I didn't see a message or an update when I turned on my encoder. Guess they haven't gotten around to me yet...Lol
^^^ It's for the broadcaster not other encoder(s).
DancesWithSloths
05-24-2017, 06:02 PM
I don't know where these fuckers are advertising, but I had two new guys in my room at the same time who were so new I had to explain how the site worked and that yes, I wanted paying. One of them actually got a decent length show, so I'm not going to complain too hard... But I hate doing the "well, there're three kinds of shows you can get on this site, and none of them are free" spiel.
HollyJaydeXXX
05-24-2017, 06:06 PM
Had two guys today who were forwarded to my room via a dating site/hookup advertisement. Both lived in Atlanta and sat there for a long-ass time even though I explained this is a PAYSITE and nothing is free and I'm not interested in meeting them. They didn't leave till I told them I don't live anywhere near Atlanta and I've never even been to Georgia. Guess they thought they had a chance till they realized that logistically it wasn't possible LOL
JackAlexander
05-24-2017, 06:20 PM
Is there a difference between 1024x576 and 1280x720 lol. I usually do the first as I splitcam and SMB assrapes me with CPU usage sometimes
I am no tech.. but my SMB was saying my stream health was 1024x576 when I was always 1280x720 from my end. It placed me on the middle of page 2. I then rebooted and set my C920 to default settings and re=calibrated. It went to 1282x720 and I was back at the top pf page 1. Lighting....I think
Holly_xoxo
05-24-2017, 06:33 PM
^^^ It's for the broadcaster not other encoder(s).
Oops! I meant SMbroadcaster.
Sunnylexie
05-24-2017, 10:17 PM
The new SMB calibrates my Brio at the native 90 fps and there's no way to set it to 60 or 30 without downgrading to 1024x576. Kinda lame because their servers most probably can't afford it and it puts lots of unnecessary stress on the CPU. Got to send them feedback so they make FPS adjustment an option.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-24-2017, 10:38 PM
Can someone remind me whats the deal with the smbroadcast only showing 10fps?
imelly21
05-25-2017, 05:02 AM
Can someone remind me whats the deal with the smbroadcast only showing 10fps?
It can be gazillion things.
Your internet ( if you experience sudden drops, even without knowing- like it happened to me the other day)
Your computer ( if you use other things at once- splitcamming, etc)
Their servers ( we will never know this for sure, we are never told)
Too many models on ( space on server gets divided between all models)
Your camera settings( too much exposure or gain is perceived as" not enough light" by the software)
You camera background ( if you have too much dark around, it absorbs too much light)
This is what I know almost to be facts. Other reasons: not sure
Edit: I forgot The main reason might be how the planets align that day!
PennyJ
05-25-2017, 06:46 AM
what the fuck is today
Can someone remind me whats the deal with the smbroadcast only showing 10fps?
I was wondering about that too. Mine is a consistent 15 fps. It seems to be ok- no one is complaining, but I know my equipment is able to do 30 fps. Frustrating.
Has anyone else tried the new version of SMB? I saw it and was like NOPE, not until I hear how it's working.
Where are they finding these guys??? I'm getting alot of "new" guys that say they don't know what to do and alot of how is your show guys. WTF. There is no show in free. ( at least not in my room)
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-25-2017, 07:00 AM
I was wondering about that too. Mine is a consistent 15 fps. It seems to be ok- no one is complaining, but I know my equipment is able to do 30 fps. Frustrating.
Has anyone else tried the new version of SMB? I saw it and was like NOPE, not until I hear how it's working.
I tried it last night for about an hour. I couldn't stay on long. It seemed okay to me. But I still showed as 10fps. I was curious. But I will still use the OBS when I log on.
Lovelyyasmina
05-25-2017, 03:29 PM
I updated on the new SMbroadcast haven't had to recalibrate yet everything has been going smoothly so far. (Don't want to jinx it) (knock on wood) it's been a few hours & ran just fine for me
kiki399
05-25-2017, 07:47 PM
I updated on the new SMbroadcast haven't had to recalibrate yet everything has been going smoothly so far. (Don't want to jinx it) (knock on wood) it's been a few hours & ran just fine for me
That's a good thing, I'm too nervous to update my sm broadcaster, but how was your traffic n custies? I didn't update and constant problems, like the usual....kicked off, customers kicked off or mo traffic
Halo88
05-25-2017, 07:50 PM
I actually have less issues with dropped frames when I stream from IE vs. Chrome.
To add to this, I stream in IE and rarely have issues. Unless it is an occasional glitch with my internet.
Something I have been meaning to post here, but kept forgetting to: For the past few months, when I try to stream with party chat, I constantly get disconnected after 5-30 minutes. When I use classic chat, I can go for several hours with no disconnects or issues.
I'm no longer using party chat for that reason. I'm convinced that there is something wrong with the party chat feature. I use FMLE, so I'm not sure if that would make a difference.
So if any of you girls use party chat and experience glitches, try classic chat and stream in IE to see if that helps, or to troubleshoot.
Lovelyyasmina
05-25-2017, 08:08 PM
My stream has continuously run fine I'm still online! My placement is about the same I'm usually in the middle of the first page & traffic is alright I haven't had any complaints so I'm happy & hoping it stays that way
Sunnylexie
05-26-2017, 12:49 AM
My second shift using the newest SMB, been good so far. It seems to automatically cap the FPS somewhere at 70 (guess there's a built-in bandwidth cap). Another thing I noticed is that the ranking table now shows your actual FPS when using SMB, and not 99.9 as it used to. Given the ranking table would sometimes show my FPS as 30 with the old encoder that wouldn't let it go any higher, and my placement would go down at the moments, I reckon the reason behind the weird placement drops was SM remaking the listing code alltogether with the broadcaster so they would not just place all SMB users higher, but also sort them by FPS like everyone else. I just wish the SM people were more transparent about what they are doing.
gorgeousbbw
05-26-2017, 01:50 AM
installed the updated SM broadcaster tonight and it put me down to 15fps now. seemed like everyone was getting instantly kicked from my room or having trouble staying connected. total shit and prior to the update i was at 30fps so idk what happened. is there a way to get the old broadcaster version back? lol also learned a new little trick for the guys who think it's a meetup site. I tell them all i am in Puerto Rico as far as fucking possible from them having a chance to meet lol. i make it impossible. sorry unless ur gonna cross the ocean ur just gonna have to take me private to play lol
Lovelyyasmina
05-26-2017, 02:48 PM
Logged in today & got another notification about any update from Smbroadcast, anyone else?
DancesWithSloths
05-26-2017, 06:32 PM
Number of customers trying to do c2c and/or phone today: 4. Number of customers who succeeded: 0.
Number of "black screen, bb": 3
Not to mention, "sound dropping, bb", and just stretches of silent in-and-outs.
I was there for barely 3 hrs, and saw more glitching than on an old Windows Vista machine.
bbcakezxo
05-26-2017, 09:25 PM
jfc it's been so dead today you'd think I was on page 10 with the dudes lol. I'm gonna dip my toes in MFC this week bc this is just getting ridiculous.
Teddy_Bear
05-27-2017, 04:24 AM
WTF was going on yesterday?! I had a great day earnings wise but by god did I work hard for it. My RTT kept spiking into the 60,000's and no that is not a typo for absolutely no reason and pushing me onto bumblefuck nowhere page 1000 or something for 15 mins then it would return to normal and my placement would be back to where it usually is.
Everything else (including my rubbish internet connection) was great and my other sites were running like clockwork. I do hope this isn't a run up to another fucking contest as there is still time for them to spring one for Memorial Day :(
The encoder was also dropping my bitrate to 300 and then returning back to the 2000's on a whim so I know it was that damn site. One minute a full room the next crickets and what do you know it all coincided with those glitches... coincidence, I think not.
Snowy0Star
05-27-2017, 05:55 AM
I just got disconnected 4 times in 15 min i havent gone on since last night and it was fine yesterday for the most part . i guess i wont be making money in my sleep today (was planning on doing voyeur sleep shows)
imelly21
05-27-2017, 06:29 AM
The encoder was also dropping my bitrate to 300 and then returning back to the 2000's on a whim so I know it was that damn site. One minute a full room the next crickets and what do you know it all coincided with those glitches... coincidence, I think not.
Are you not using SM Broadcast? And yeah yesterday was a horror story.
Teddy_Bear
05-27-2017, 06:41 AM
Are you not using SM Broadcast? And yeah yesterday was a horror story.
No I don't use the SMB as it makes my CPU jump to almost 100% running on it's own whereas the encoder is only at 40-50% when splitcamming as well.
We'll see how today treats me. Oh and the FA Cup Final is on today girls so expect it to be slow in a couple of hours at kick-off >:(
BuffyFlame
05-27-2017, 11:18 AM
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This is the first concrete feedback I've gotten from Streamate acknowledging that there is in fact an issue on their end that is on them to fix.
Until now, for me, they would just tell me to change things on my end. Maybe this is hope, maybe this is them at the end of their rope on denying it.
Holly_xoxo
05-27-2017, 11:57 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure what's going on. I had a guy in pvt that seemed to be enjoying himself and suddenly he was gone. There was nothing that said he left the room and my countdown timer wasn't going....he just wasn't in there anymore. Since then, everyone seems to leave within 3 or 4 minutes without saying bye or indicating they're leaving. I know it's not uncommon that guys just disconnect but they seem enthusiastic and then *poof* they're gone.
Maybe it's just 2 minute guys today but it's just seems weird, especially since that 1st guy vanished without anything saying he left.
Snowy0Star
05-27-2017, 02:14 PM
I wonder if SM is trying to make adjustments that will allow the rankings system to know whether we are using the encoder or the SM broadcaster so it can start prioritizing the SM broadcaster users. As far as I know it doesn't, there's nothing on the rankings page that shows which we're using and up until these latest issues(using the encoder suddenly putting me on page 2) my placement and my rankings info was always exactly the same whether I was using the encoder or broadcaster. SM has been urging us to use the SM broadcaster for ages and telling us that doing so would positively impact placement, so if this is what's happening I'm not surprised.
why would they do that when its a piece of shit program. logically it should be based on who has the best settings and they shouldnt care what program you use to get those settings. ive been using OBS because my frame rate kept dropping using the SMB . Im going to be LIVID if they tank my placement because i wont use thier POS software.
BuffyFlame
05-27-2017, 03:34 PM
Because it doesn't support split streaming. They don't want us working for anyone else, even if that means we starve or stay on 22 hours straight for 1/3 the income.
Snowy0Star
05-27-2017, 03:45 PM
Because it doesn't support split streaming. They don't want us working for anyone else, even if that means we starve or stay on 22 hours straight for 1/3 the income.
o yeah i forgot about that lol but thats an easy work around - get two webcams lol. i already do - i still have my c9000 and a c920. when i was using the SMB i was using my 9000 to go on CB and Cams.com with my 920 for SM
BiancaNorwood
05-27-2017, 04:54 PM
Had two guys today who were forwarded to my room via a dating site/hookup advertisement. Both lived in Atlanta and sat there for a long-ass time even though I explained this is a PAYSITE and nothing is free and I'm not interested in meeting them. They didn't leave till I told them I don't live anywhere near Atlanta and I've never even been to Georgia. Guess they thought they had a chance till they realized that logistically it wasn't possible LOL
I HATE, HATE, HAAAAAAAAAATE being advertised on "dating" sites!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scorpio Girl
05-27-2017, 05:06 PM
Hmm, I'm not sure what's going on. I had a guy in pvt that seemed to be enjoying himself and suddenly he was gone. There was nothing that said he left the room and my countdown timer wasn't going....he just wasn't in there anymore. Since then, everyone seems to leave within 3 or 4 minutes without saying bye or indicating they're leaving. I know it's not uncommon that guys just disconnect but they seem enthusiastic and then *poof* they're gone.
Maybe it's just 2 minute guys today but it's just seems weird, especially since that 1st guy vanished without anything saying he left.
I had that happen last night too, but we were doing C2C so I noticed that his camera went black, but there was no 30 second countdown or anything. I think I was thrown right back into free chat which freaked me out since I was totally nude but luckily I did sit up right away when the camera went black to see what was going on. I thought maybe it was because he hit his maximum because it said user must contact support. Still usually get the 30 seconds when that happens though.
maddiebabe
05-28-2017, 04:05 AM
o yeah i forgot about that lol but thats an easy work around - get two webcams lol. i already do - i still have my c9000 and a c920. when i was using the SMB i was using my 9000 to go on CB and Cams.com with my 920 for SM
Yeah I also recommend 2 diff types of cameras as well. I use one c920 for smb and another c920 for everything else and it does get confusing sometimes. I wish I'd known that beforehand.
Snowy0Star
05-28-2017, 05:05 AM
Yeah I also recommend 2 diff types of cameras as well. I use one c920 for smb and another c920 for everything else and it does get confusing sometimes. I wish I'd known that beforehand.
i dont recommend the 9000 because it puts an orange tint on everything i only use it because i still have it from when i started camming 5 years ago a little before the c920s first came out. IIRC the 920s came out a few months after i got the 9000