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christylive
10-05-2017, 11:53 PM
My placement is shit. I have A1 internet, a gaming computer and a badass webcam. Excellent scores on everything in the ranking, including the hours I put on this shit site.

Yesterday was the last nail in the coffin. Had a sweet guy take me to private for an hour. He was disconnected by the site and SM and wouldn't let him add funds to his account (I guess SM limits a customer's spending due to risk of charge back and etc?) Anyhow, I tried streaming afterwards to make a little bit more dough, but gave up after the bad traffic (I was sitting in the middle of the 3rd page).

I'm really convinced that the issues aren't me and my equipment but it's SM and their equipment. At a 35% payout, we shouldn't be having any connection issues *ESPECIALLY* on the customer's end! No wonder I haven't seen any of my regulars come back on SM . . . the site is really too fucking problematic.



this here is why i gave up caring about placement. it's been off for a hot minute now. i'll go from middle of page 1 all the way to pg 4 to nowhere to be found........ i think the best camming tech doesn't really help when the platform we are on has failed and contines to fail us sadly

KatM
10-05-2017, 11:54 PM
until SM communicates with us we have no choice but to come up with our own theories..... besides the glitches, i'm wondering if theres payment processor issues? i mean, more often than not now guys can't tip or go priv/exc. why would we be prevented from making money on a live- paytoplay porn site? is that not the point why we log in each day? for sure it's not to sit on a broken site. was SM sold off and was banking moved overseas or something? i mean....... something aint right... in life i question everything.....ya got to

I question everything myself too, always been & always will, things are just not right with SM lately.
I try to stay calm but i have to make money & i dont really like other sites but SM, its not about loyalty or dedication to a site, is the work style i prefer, i rather get nude in pvt than for a crowd on a tipping site, is the 'intimacy style' i prefer with SM.

christylive
10-06-2017, 03:50 AM
I question everything myself too, always been & always will, things are just not right with SM lately.
I try to stay calm but i have to make money & i dont really like other sites but SM, its not about loyalty or dedication to a site, is the work style i prefer, i rather get nude in pvt than for a crowd on a tipping site, is the 'intimacy style' i prefer with SM.


yeah that's exactly how i am also. not a fan of the token sites. getting guys to talk on sm is like pulling shark teeth but on the token sites i tried you couldn't pay these guys to talk back.

Genoveve
10-06-2017, 10:20 AM
My placement is shit. I have A1 internet, a gaming computer and a badass webcam. Excellent scores on everything in the ranking, including the hours I put on this shit site.

Yesterday was the last nail in the coffin. Had a sweet guy take me to private for an hour. He was disconnected by the site and SM and wouldn't let him add funds to his account (I guess SM limits a customer's spending due to risk of charge back and etc?) Anyhow, I tried streaming afterwards to make a little bit more dough, but gave up after the bad traffic (I was sitting in the middle of the 3rd page).

I'm really convinced that the issues aren't me and my equipment but it's SM and their equipment. At a 35% payout, we shouldn't be having any connection issues *ESPECIALLY* on the customer's end! No wonder I haven't seen any of my regulars come back on SM . . . the site is really too fucking problematic.

Are you using the SM broadcaster? I cannot fathom how you would be on page 3 if your rankings are all perfect and you're doing hour-long shows. Not using the broadcaster will fuck your placement up no matter how good your set-up is and how much you make.

whirlerz
10-06-2017, 05:29 PM
We'd, the 11th is Wild We'd contest

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 07:27 PM
anyone else having video quality issues, mine just keeps dropping, I have reset everything on my end. I optimized it again, and it put my video quality to 640x480 wtf and it took about 15 min to optimize! is it me??? My frame rate goes down to 3 fps!!!

YES!!! I thought there new SMSBroadcaster was going to be excellent at 1st and for like the 1st couple of days or week or so it worked great! Now my 1280/720 resolution of which my HD webcam provides will not stay at that resolution nor my 30 FPS and keeps dropping the FPS & resolution every tiem I Optimize it...I also tried lowering my lighting as I read that would help with better calibrating. sigh

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 07:54 PM
this here is why i gave up caring about placement. it's been off for a hot minute now. i'll go from middle of page 1 all the way to pg 4 to nowhere to be found........ i think the best camming tech doesn't really help when the platform we are on has failed and contines to fail us sadly

I am a mth and half new on there and I still haven't figured out how to find my placement? I tried going thru the site as a member and I too cannot find me on there with my stage name??????????

heyho
10-06-2017, 08:42 PM
I am a mth and half new on there and I still haven't figured out how to find m placement? I tried going thru the site as a member and I too cannot find me on there with my stage name??????????

Did you use geoblock on your own country?

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 09:18 PM
In regards to someone that recently considered that SM most likely has a majority of bots now as members....Well, I just had a Skype show with one of my Indy customers today & he gave me an almost 3 page list of all the cam girls he has interacted w/ on SM and caught on that they were all "pre-recorded" cam shows of models...not live shows and that they do not talk to you live, they have loud music playing, & someone on the receiving in only types to that member to reply & u can tell the pre-recorded videos as they all dup over and over. (now I mention, I saw a cam girl on the 1st page a couple weeks ago that I for sure thought was a pre-recorded video of her as well!) Also, he believes that possibly it's all SM setting up these fake pre-recorded cam girl shows. Or like it's all done at a call center type thing. He also said that some of these alleged cam girl models (profile) on SM will also use the same exact cam rooms as the other model) So that being said, whoever 1st thought of all the members & group of members all popping in and out of everyone's rooms all at the exact same time and the member counter etc. being all bot's nowadays just may very well be true! Wow! smh So where is everyone going now for a new main site to work on to make income? I am exhausting myself day in and day out trying to find a new cam site to work on....so I am up for any and all suggestions that would be helpful to me! :)

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 09:42 PM
Did you use geoblock on your own country?

No I haven't? Is that what I have to do is block the country I am in in order to view what my placement is?

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 10:00 PM
I’m not afraid to admit when I’m a little too fast with the ban hammer or just not up to par.. something is definitely off cause I’ve had 3-4 guys take me private/exc who have said they attempted to talk/tip/spend etc But they can’t. The quality of traffic is at an all time LOW, like bottom of the dumpster in between scum Rd and disappointment on Christmas morning st which means the trolling and beggars are x 10 which means I’m banning more than normal. However, quite a few of these guys cannot spend, it’s like something’s preventing them from tipping/spending etc. some still report the spinning blue circle... so if these guys are making new accounts just to apologize and go priv/exc from their new account and even rate 5 stars that tells me something is off, I mean, trolls and lurkers seem to never have problems connecting or staying put for 30 minutes plus. Something just seems off.

I totally agree with you and a few weeks ago I had a reg customer of mine that had to join in on my Gold Show just to get to me as he said time and time again he had been trying to request me in a private show but every time he was not able too & would get booted out frm sending me the private requests and also he stated even just joining my FLC room he never could get in as he would keep getting kicked out????

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 10:08 PM
I honestly don’t know I mean what are the odds 9/10 good spending regulars drop off the face of the earth never to return again and 9/10 only lurkers and trolls and long periods of dead spots? Like some invasion of the body snatchers shit or something. I totally agree that older men are not all that tech savvy but I’m sure not all the guys who can’t spend or are being prevented from spending are all old either.....

But.... I totally get that older guys who have money to blow are usually slower responders and typers which I’m totally ok with and understanding.



"Like some invasion of the body snatchers shit or something." ;D;D;D;D;D

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 10:11 PM
I too had people telling me 'i still cant see u' (either in guest chat or paid chat) or say they cant tip or go pvt, i was thinking it's them trying to fool me but looks like not?!

I too have had one of my potential customer's tell me he was never able to ever send me a requests to go private after several attempts and even said that he kept getting kicked out of my room whenever he would try to join my FLC. He had to join one of my Gold Shows just to do & see any of my shows. SMH Needless to say...I never seen him again after that day either sigh

christylive
10-06-2017, 10:19 PM
In regards to someone that recently considered that SM most likely has a majority of bots now as members....Well, I just had a Skype show with one of my Indy customers today & he gave me an almost 3 page list of all the cam girls he has interacted w/ on SM and caught on that they were all "pre-recorded" cam shows of models...not live shows and that they do not talk to you live, they have loud music playing, & someone on the receiving in only types to that member to reply & u can tell the pre-recorded videos as they all dup over and over. (now I mention, I saw a cam girl on the 1st page a couple weeks ago that I for sure thought was a pre-recorded video of her as well!) Also, he believes that possibly it's all SM setting up these fake pre-recorded cam girl shows. Or like it's all done at a call center type thing. He also said that some of these alleged cam girl models (profile) on SM will also use the same exact cam rooms as the other model) So that being said, whoever 1st thought of all the members & group of members all popping in and out of everyone's rooms all at the exact same time and the member counter etc. being all bot's nowadays just may very well be true! Wow! smh So where is everyone going now for a new main site to work on to make income? I am exhausting myself day in and day out trying to find a new cam site to work on....so I am up for any and all suggestions that would be helpful to me! :)

For me, the older i get the more wiser I become and that’s why I question everything and I dig like a detective. From webcam all the way to investigating false flag events to what the mailman tells me. I refuse to go with the crowd and just believe something because it’s what’s believed to be “right” which is is why I think nothing surprises me anymore. I see things for what they are in life and in work. I lose sleep nightly because I’m always reading and searching, learning, digging.. I’ve basically relearned everything I was “taught” in school and by society. It gets depressing at times cause I know way more than what I probably should, but me being a curious spirit I tend to gravitate towards theories/conspiracies. In closing, when I talk about bots it’s for a reason. and all I will say, conduct your own research and ...... yeah...

MelindaDeaner
10-06-2017, 10:26 PM
I went on sm for the first time in over a week just hours with no one in my room or leaving right away or leaving right after i say hi. i dont get it and its pissing me off. These dudes are saying hi staying in my room until i notice they typed something because i focus more on cb and mfc . "hi username how are you then " next thing i know BOOM gone . I dont get it u were the one that said hi to me first and when i say hi back u leave . WTF is ur malfunction bro? Is this a pattern other ppl are noticing too? Should i stop saying their name and pretend like im addressing the whole room even tho there's only one person in my room


It's not just you, it's happening to everyone unfortunately :-( I am getting that too and it does piss me off too. I actually cannot help but drag my feet now a days to even want to log into SM anymore b/c it's no longer a fun place to work ..or lack of. It's not fun when u greet every damn person that comes in ur room then not even a second later leave, you greeting every dang person every 2nd than they vanish and ur mouth is exhausted and u start to hear urself as a broken record. Yet, you will have the freeloaders hanging out in ur free chat for hours wanting to chat and jack of to u in free chat, and then the ones that pop in u will discover they have said hi and then not even 5 min after they said hi u respond to them (talk & text) then they fly out of ur room!! wtf is going on?

heyho
10-06-2017, 10:31 PM
No I haven't? Is that what I have to do is block the country I am in in order to view what my placement is?

No, if you didn't block your own region then you should be able to see yourself. Use a different browser and see if that helps? Remember that SM shows online members first so you have to go 6+ pages back to see yourself if you are offline. If you want me to check for you, feel free to PM me your user handle.

As for models with similar-looking rooms, they are often in a physical studio that set up multiple rooms in one building and hires girls to just show up and cam. This is super common in Eastern Europe.

Glamourmilf
10-06-2017, 11:57 PM
In regards to someone that recently considered that SM most likely has a majority of bots now as members....Well, I just had a Skype show with one of my Indy customers today & he gave me an almost 3 page list of all the cam girls he has interacted w/ on SM and caught on that they were all "pre-recorded" cam shows of models...not live shows and that they do not talk to you live, they have loud music playing, & someone on the receiving in only types to that member to reply & u can tell the pre-recorded videos as they all dup over and over. (now I mention, I saw a cam girl on the 1st page a couple weeks ago that I for sure thought was a pre-recorded video of her as well!) Also, he believes that possibly it's all SM setting up these fake pre-recorded cam girl shows. Or like it's all done at a call center type thing. He also said that some of these alleged cam girl models (profile) on SM will also use the same exact cam rooms as the other model) So that being said, whoever 1st thought of all the members & group of members all popping in and out of everyone's rooms all at the exact same time and the member counter etc. being all bot's nowadays just may very well be true! Wow! smh So where is everyone going now for a new main site to work on to make income? I am exhausting myself day in and day out trying to find a new cam site to work on....so I am up for any and all suggestions that would be helpful to me! :)

Yes,, I just found out about this a few months ago. I put them all on my favorites list in my customer account just to see what they're up to.
They even do gold shows, which is crazy, but, I guess with the controller typing for them, custies don't realize it's a loop video.
I've said a long time ago that SM traffic to everybody's room is manipulated.
Once I got a sense of how dirty they play, I knew that I can either stay on board, and play their game, or quit SM entirely.
I've been in sex work my entire adult life, and only once was an employer fair and above board with me.
It's just the nature of the business.
My vanilla job wasn't much better either, to be honest.

christylive
10-07-2017, 01:22 AM
Yes,, I just found out about this a few months ago. I put them all on my favorites list in my customer account just to see what they're up to.
They even do gold shows, which is crazy, but, I guess with the controller typing for them, custies don't realize it's a loop video.
I've said a long time ago that SM traffic to everybody's room is manipulated.
Once I got a sense of how dirty they play, I knew that I can either stay on board, and play their game, or quit SM entirely.
I've been in sex work my entire adult life, and only once was an employer fair and above board with me.
It's just the nature of the business.
My vanilla job wasn't much better either, to be honest.

Another reason I stopped caring about placement. I get a good laugh whenever anyone compares earnings and placement to someone they don’t like cause realistically speaking look at how many looped fako accounts stream with amazing placement. No matter what I make my placement rarely changes and it’s been that way almost 2 years now

Blovely
10-07-2017, 02:02 AM
I went on sm for the first time in over a week just hours with no one in my room or leaving right away or leaving right after i say hi. i dont get it and its pissing me off. These dudes are saying hi staying in my room until i notice they typed something because i focus more on cb and mfc . "hi username how are you then " next thing i know BOOM gone . I dont get it u were the one that said hi to me first and when i say hi back u leave . WTF is ur malfunction bro? Is this a pattern other ppl are noticing too? Should i stop saying their name and pretend like im addressing the whole room even tho there's only one person in my room

Like the other ladies its not just you. I got so annoyed with people popping in and out, not talking, or leaving in the middle of a convo that I put an option on my tip list to tip for my attention. These guys aren't even staying around after they've tipped for my attention. Like after they've tipped I try to make convo with them with normal chit chat like Hi, how are you? They answer that but as soon as I ask them what are they up to or what brings them by they leave. I'm like wtf because those are basic ass question and its not even like I was even pushing a private on them yet. Like shit I can't even ask what they're up to, what brings them by or what they're interested in???? Like I'm really confused on what I should say at this point.

Ari_star
10-07-2017, 03:19 AM
Ok so i just wanna let of some steam here a newbie got my account up and running a week ago 3 days in to camming my account becomes unapproved again so 4 day wait for support to reply saying issue was there end fixed it yay i can go online again 3 hours later and they email saying as per my requrst they closed my account!! Today is payday whats gonna happen to my earnings?? Emailed back saying please open again i did not request close but guessing another 4 day wait for reply? Are they always this bad i know evetyine says dont do studio but maybe for issues they are better or at least faster to reply i need to be on i need the money i earned paying yh few hundred dollars not huge amounts but i was relying on that hitting my account this wk coming!! ahhh and breath😂 sorry if im repeating previous on here this is my first time on and as a secret cammer i have kids so not common knowledge what i do, had no where else to moan

Sam38g
10-07-2017, 03:28 AM
Yes,, I just found out about this a few months ago. I put them all on my favorites list in my customer account just to see what they're up to.
They even do gold shows, which is crazy, but, I guess with the controller typing for them, custies don't realize it's a loop video.
I've said a long time ago that SM traffic to everybody's room is manipulated.
Once I got a sense of how dirty they play, I knew that I can either stay on board, and play their game, or quit SM entirely.
I've been in sex work my entire adult life, and only once was an employer fair and above board with me.
It's just the nature of the business.
My vanilla job wasn't much better either, to be honest.

There have been stories done on that biz model. SM has been made aware about several of them but they still exist.

Now, I fear camming on the site. Afraid that all of us will end up being bots on there & NOT getting any of the money made

MissRoxxxie
10-07-2017, 07:00 AM
42 potential 'members' and 2 people in my room... Just saying hello makes them leave. Why am I doing this to myself?

KatM
10-07-2017, 07:35 AM
Aaaand we got another contest! 11th of october! SM is dead today, 1.5 hrs online and not a tip or pvt :(

Glamourmilf
10-07-2017, 09:19 AM
Another reason I stopped caring about placement. I get a good laugh whenever anyone compares earnings and placement to someone they don’t like cause realistically speaking look at how many looped fako accounts stream with amazing placement. No matter what I make my placement rarely changes and it’s been that way almost 2 years now


There have been stories done on that biz model. SM has been made aware about several of them but they still exist.

Now, I fear camming on the site. Afraid that all of us will end up being bots on there & NOT getting any of the money made

Exactly, and exactly.

nicole88
10-07-2017, 10:25 AM
Do you think that its possible that some models are given special treatment or "given" the traffic. The reason I ask is I have had so many guys try to go private recently that can't or it cuts out and they leave. Also some members telling me to "try another model" when my page doesnt load or kicks them out of my room. I am so confused by this. I would say its my internet or computer but I have tried another computer, and multiple locations with great internet....

MelindaDeaner
10-07-2017, 02:06 PM
Yes,, I just found out about this a few months ago. I put them all on my favorites list in my customer account just to see what they're up to.
They even do gold shows, which is crazy, but, I guess with the controller typing for them, custies don't realize it's a loop video.
I've said a long time ago that SM traffic to everybody's room is manipulated.
Once I got a sense of how dirty they play, I knew that I can either stay on board, and play their game, or quit SM entirely.
I've been in sex work my entire adult life, and only once was an employer fair and above board with me.
It's just the nature of the business.
My vanilla job wasn't much better either, to be honest.



Wow! That's crazy!! I wander how they manipulate the loop video if they ever make Gold Shows? Switch out to a Gold Show pre-recorded vid right after their Goal is met?

MelindaDeaner
10-07-2017, 02:31 PM
Aaaand we got another contest! 11th of october! SM is dead today, 1.5 hrs online and not a tip or pvt :(


It's always dead on SM for me now...I worked Thurs. 5 hrs 45 min and only rcvd $9.80 on 2 couple min private request and most of that time on I was doing back to back Gold Shows just to bring in customers that only popped in and out every second. Sigh. It's hard to even want to get on anymore which I haven't been doing lately. (got lucky this week with a lot of Indy Skype shows) If it wasn't for my Indy Skype Shows I wouldn't even be able to feed myself! *rolls eyes*

MelindaDeaner
10-07-2017, 03:25 PM
42 potential 'members' and 2 people in my room... Just saying hello makes them leave. Why am I doing this to myself?

I do the exact same thing unintentionally! It's more so when I set back to back all day long Gold Shows that I know will not be met as I never have anyone at all tipping.(not even 1 customer). But, I do the shows to bring in customers b/c I got soo depressed & bored of staring at a blank white empty chat room for soo long. I told myself I am not going to greet anyone else going forward that enters my room. The real customers that want a show will automatically take me to private (few, far, & in b/w now a days) Yet, I always forget I am actually in Gold Shows so before I realize it I am repeating myself for like 10 min greeting everyone (by names) that come in and out of my room all thru the entire time the Gold Show countdown is running...Then I realize...Oh, that's why I am getting customers that pop in & out as always so then I just have to refrain frm even acknowledging them at that point!

pixiepower329
10-07-2017, 03:58 PM
You wouldn't think that making $200 on a Saturday would be that difficult but.... here I am in the middle of hour 7.. and haven't even broken 100 yet.

BubblyBlonde
10-07-2017, 08:04 PM
It's always dead on SM for me now...I worked Thurs. 5 hrs 45 min and only rcvd $9.80 on 2 couple min private request and most of that time on I was doing back to back Gold Shows just to bring in customers that only popped in and out every second. Sigh. It's hard to even want to get on anymore which I haven't been doing lately. (got lucky this week with a lot of Indy Skype shows) If it wasn't for my Indy Skype Shows I wouldn't even be able to feed myself! *rolls eyes*

Exactly the same for me. I didn't even attempt Streamate this week.

christylive
10-07-2017, 08:24 PM
Do you think that its possible that some models are given special treatment or "given" the traffic. The reason I ask is I have had so many guys try to go private recently that can't or it cuts out and they leave. Also some members telling me to "try another model" when my page doesnt load or kicks them out of my room. I am so confused by this. I would say its my internet or computer but I have tried another computer, and multiple locations with great internet....


I wouldn’t be surprised if traffic wasn’t manipulated or re directed to specific rooms. Too many ocassions id be talking to a member and then POOF they’d disappear and come back and tell me who they got booted and landed in another models room they didn’t click on and they know they didn’t leave or click anywhere.

christylive
10-07-2017, 08:27 PM
It's always dead on SM for me now...I worked Thurs. 5 hrs 45 min and only rcvd $9.80 on 2 couple min private request and most of that time on I was doing back to back Gold Shows just to bring in customers that only popped in and out every second. Sigh. It's hard to even want to get on anymore which I haven't been doing lately. (got lucky this week with a lot of Indy Skype shows) If it wasn't for my Indy Skype Shows I wouldn't even be able to feed myself! *rolls eyes*


I refuse to cam during contests, now a few times I logged in not realizing it was a contest. I’m def taking this day off tho. Same girls win every time and girls who don’t cam unless it’s a contest win. They can have it . I don’t want it. Nope nope and nope. I will be napping and at the salon that day!!!

MelindaDeaner
10-07-2017, 09:05 PM
Exactly the same for me. I didn't even attempt Streamate this week.


I have noticed the last 3 weeks I have only been on SM one day a week and only 4/5 so hrs. 3 weeks ago when I got on for the 1st time that week and worked a total of 9 1/2 hrs and only made $55 when in the beginning of me signing up for SM 1st week of Sept I was working 28 hrs that week at 6 1/2- 7 1/2 hrs earning $84-$95 that day I was feeling proud of myself. After that week SM went to crap for me and became worse & worse as the weeks went by. Not sure what happened to them?

MelindaDeaner
10-07-2017, 09:12 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if traffic wasn’t manipulated or re directed to specific rooms. Too many ocassions id be talking to a member and then POOF they’d disappear and come back and tell me who they got booted and landed in another models room they didn’t click on and they know they didn’t leave or click anywhere.

Wow! This is sad...makes me wander whatever happened to my customer that was trying continuously to get a private session with me and the site kept kicking him out! smh If I could just do Indy Skype Shows all day & bank I'd be happy! At least u don't have to waste all ur time in free chat like a lonely puppy waiting to be picked! lol I loved SM at the beginning and thought it was fun & would be fun to excel in the Gold Shows etc. but seriously? There should be an option to opt out of having to be stuck in free chat after a certain length of time.

MelindaDeaner
10-07-2017, 10:11 PM
SM has favorites and those performers get put on the good servers and IMO its based on your appearance and your hustle . Im a 220 pound alternative BBW with a huge chest piece of a bat and my hustle is very low key i just chill and do my own thing and wait to be spoken to . Im not some 120 pound fake tittied bimbo that acts like I just did a line of coke during my entire shift . I'm not what they're looking for so I get put on the shitty servers with a feed that lags for a significant amount of time every few minutes and clears out my room and ends pvts and kills any potential chance i have at building a good fan base . Just be thankful ur being cared for and the ppl who control ur fate like you to put u where u r to make what ur making .

Very well said. I too must be at the short end of the stick as far as the crappy servers & the huge lag! It's not a day that goes by whenever I am on SM the one or occasional regulars will leave my private show not long after they have requested me or even will leave my room b/c of either how grainy I look, how it's too much lag, how my audio is not matching up with the rest of me, how I am pixel, or how my feed will just be sharp & clear one minute then will freeze out another min later. I have had soo many ppl complain about this in my room like it is on my end and like it is my fault & am afraid I have lost my only 2 regulars b/c of this as well. I know it is not on my end. I have a good HD webcam, I increased my internet/bandwidth speed to the highest speed I could do (of which I have no clue how heck I'm gonna pay for it when I am not making no income now for any of my bills) and quite frankly I really wish I had caught on to SM's scheming before hand b/c I really enjoyed those 2 customers that were becoming my regulars and wish I had the option at that time they visited me to tell them to follow me on my Indy Skype Shows! At least with my Skype shows there is no competition, I am the only one running the show, and in charge of how I conduct my shows etc. and I never have to worry about my streaming lagging on the receiving end! % is way way better than the small 30-35% too!

christylive
10-07-2017, 10:32 PM
Wow! This is sad...makes me wander whatever happened to my customer that was trying continuously to get a private session with me and the site kept kicking him out! smh If I could just do Indy Skype Shows all day & bank I'd be happy! At least u don't have to waste all ur time in free chat like a lonely puppy waiting to be picked! lol I loved SM at the beginning and thought it was fun & would be fun to excel in the Gold Shows etc. but seriously? There should be an option to opt out of having to be stuck in free chat after a certain length of time.




when i'm not feeling too shnazzy and have no razzle dazzle left i just do a 30-50 min gold show and sit in that bitch alone and if someone tips cool and if not thats cool too, more often than not someone will tip. i also reccomend maybe trying long hangout non nude gold shows at 20 a pop so even if 1 person joins it beats sitting in free chat on a dead cock ship. oh and side note, when i do those long extended shows i put the countdown on 1 min and start the show 5-10 seconds later, i don't wait for anyone to tip

MelindaDeaner
10-07-2017, 11:27 PM
when i'm not feeling too shnazzy and have no razzle dazzle left i just do a 30-50 min gold show and sit in that bitch alone and if someone tips cool and if not thats cool too, more often than not someone will tip. i also reccomend maybe trying long hangout non nude gold shows at 20 a pop so even if 1 person joins it beats sitting in free chat on a dead cock ship. oh and side note, when i do those long extended shows i put the countdown on 1 min and start the show 5-10 seconds later, i don't wait for anyone to tip

You know what that is a really great idea! I actually had pondered on that thought too & actually did do that once and started a Gold Show without any tips & I think eventually 1 person came in and tipped but he then eventually left when he figured out I was the only one in there and nothing was happening! lol After that I got discouraged and lonely since it was just me in the Gold Show so cancelled it. lol Thank you for this info & the next time I am on there I will diff take all this into consideration and try it for myself! lol It actually will make me feel like I am actually doing something other than sitting in free chat having everyone stare at me every second before they leave! lol The long non nude gold shows for $20 Gold isn't a bad idea either and actually reminds me of doing a group show at a cheaper rate like one of the old cam sites I used to work on...(can't remember which one but am thinking it was F4F lol)

christylive
10-07-2017, 11:29 PM
I do the exact same thing unintentionally! It's more so when I set back to back all day long Gold Shows that I know will not be met as I never have anyone at all tipping.(not even 1 customer). But, I do the shows to bring in customers b/c I got soo depressed & bored of staring at a blank white empty chat room for soo long. I told myself I am not going to greet anyone else going forward that enters my room. The real customers that want a show will automatically take me to private (few, far, & in b/w now a days) Yet, I always forget I am actually in Gold Shows so before I realize it I am repeating myself for like 10 min greeting everyone (by names) that come in and out of my room all thru the entire time the Gold Show countdown is running...Then I realize...Oh, that's why I am getting customers that pop in & out as always so then I just have to refrain frm even acknowledging them at that point!


tonight they kept asking for a gold show and i straight up told them i am not rewarding them with a discount for lurking me and not having the manners to even greet me back but if things change and everyone stops acting like they have no home training than perhaps maybe i'll crank one out.... but na... i'll pass on that tonight all together. i raised my rates a small bit and i'm finding a better crowd of men are catching shows with me which is great.

christylive
10-07-2017, 11:40 PM
You know what that is a really great idea! I actually had pondered on that thought too & actually did do that once and started a Gold Show without any tips & I think eventually 1 person came in and tipped but he then eventually left when he figured out I was the only one in there and nothing was happening! lol After that I got discouraged and lonely since it was just me in the Gold Show so cancelled it. lol Thank you for this info & the next time I am on there I will diff take all this into consideration and try it for myself! lol It actually will make me feel like I am actually doing something other than sitting in free chat having everyone stare at me every second before they leave! lol The long non nude gold shows for $20 Gold isn't a bad idea either and actually reminds me of doing a group show at a cheaper rate like one of the old cam sites I used to work on...(can't remember which one but am thinking it was F4F lol)

just be sure to put in the gold show descrition box that it's a non nude show or whatever so they can't complain that there is no anal or vaginal play.also what i offer in non nude gold show is the oppertunity to tip for flashes but those tips are equivelant to what i charge in free chat and so if nobody tipd for extras than it just remains a hang out show, lots of ways you can mix it up. and i'd rather read a book and rest my eyes in a gold show alone over sitting in a super dead free chat area. i mean, it's either that or logging off some days for me. i've been sticking it out the last few weeks and it's paid off although it's still been extremely brutal. it's clear sm, for half of us is no longer stable enough or consistant enough to pay all the bills or be the biggest goose egg as it once was and i don't nearly enjoy sm as much as i once did but i'm giving it a good go up until i quit.

MelindaDeaner
10-08-2017, 12:03 AM
just be sure to put in the gold show descrition box that it's a non nude show or whatever so they can't complain that there is no anal or vaginal play.also what i offer in non nude gold show is the oppertunity to tip for flashes but those tips are equivelant to what i charge in free chat and so if nobody tipd for extras than it just remains a hang out show, lots of ways you can mix it up. and i'd rather read a book and rest my eyes in a gold show alone over sitting in a super dead free chat area. i mean, it's either that or logging off some days for me. i've been sticking it out the last few weeks and it's paid off although it's still been extremely brutal. it's clear sm, for half of us is no longer stable enough or consistant enough to pay all the bills or be the biggest goose egg as it once was and i don't nearly enjoy sm as much as i once did but i'm giving it a good go up until i quit.

True that! Yeah, that's what I'll do- make up some cute non nude saying for a show description, & just chat, flirt and hang out if anyone tips to join the show, and I'll just say tips for tits etc. and just play around like that- if they leave...whatever if they stay well that's awesome-maybe I can eventually build up some regulars that way too (even tho most of the time I log into SM they mess up my streaming which is hard for customers to fathom. & OMG! I apologize for all the crazy loll's in the last reply! I am soo sleep deprived I cannot function! haha! Been out sick so haven't worked as much as I wanted to on the Skype Shows or SM b/c of an eye infection I had that lasted over 3 weeks & now that I am better yesterday was my time to catch up & catch up w/ Skype show requests (which 1/2 the time they add me they never want a show smh) Anyway, so was online from 2:30PM Fri afternoon to 11am Sat to hustle every show I could possibly get on Skype & also on SM -will be heading off to bed here shortly now

MelindaDeaner
10-08-2017, 12:18 AM
tonight they kept asking for a gold show and i straight up told them i am not rewarding them with a discount for lurking me and not having the manners to even greet me back but if things change and everyone stops acting like they have no home training than perhaps maybe i'll crank one out.... but na... i'll pass on that tonight all together. i raised my rates a small bit and i'm finding a better crowd of men are catching shows with me which is great.


Oh wow! I had one model a few weeks ago on the IMLive thread reply to my comment about no traffic & freeloaders on there that I should think about raising my rates on there that I would be surprised of the better paying clientele I could get on there and that the cheap freeloaders would all leave my room if I did. And since it has worked for you on SM I think I will raise my rate as well on both of those sites. It's not like I have anything to loose doing so anyway. Thanks for that tid bit! :)

christylive
10-08-2017, 10:17 AM
Oh wow! I had one model a few weeks ago on the IMLive thread reply to my comment about no traffic & freeloaders on there that I should think about raising my rates on there that I would be surprised of the better paying clientele I could get on there and that the cheap freeloaders would all leave my room if I did. And since it has worked for you on SM I think I will raise my rate as well on both of those sites. It's not like I have anything to loose doing so anyway. Thanks for that tid bit! :)

It’s comedy how soon as you raise your rates it ruffles the feathers of the cheapskates and they complain. As I said before, cam shows and cam girls are a luxury that not all men can afford and that’s ok but I refuse to let them guilt me into lowering my rates. I offer companionship, fantasy and quality entertainment with a decades worth of experience and I’m toally accepting that what one man views as too expensive another finds just right.

SuperPookie
10-09-2017, 10:49 AM
I can't frigging stream as I just immediately get disconnected so finally I said eff it and I'm trying Cams instead

HollyJaydeXXX
10-09-2017, 02:20 PM
Oh this is a fucking joy... I love sitting here listening to people ding in and out of free chat. I also love it when someone starts a convo with me, takes up 5-10 minutes of time and finally asks if I do/have what he wants, learns that I don't and then leaves. Is it that hard to just come in and say 'do you have corsets?' 'do you do anal?''do you have xyz?' BEFORE chatting for 5-10 minutes and wasting my time?
BIGD16: Hey
How are you
I'm pretty good
Where you from
Midwest
Just got home from work
Not to bad
Any corsets

FUCK

HollyJaydeXXX
10-09-2017, 03:48 PM
hopgoodenia (invisible): hi
where u from?
hopgoodenia (invisible): me too
like NY?
ok
i wish i could get to know u
are u single?
ok
because i am looking for a gf or fwb

** you know i went off. this is not a hookup site or dating site, this is our JOB! If you're on here looking for someone to fuck or date, you're wasting your time!**

christylive
10-09-2017, 04:42 PM
hopgoodenia (invisible): hi
where u from?
hopgoodenia (invisible): me too
like NY?
ok
i wish i could get to know u
are u single?
ok
because i am looking for a gf or fwb

** you know i went off. this is not a hookup site or dating site, this is our JOB! If you're on here looking for someone to fuck or date, you're wasting your time!**


This is my chat room every time I log in now. I have a feeling there’s advertisement on a dating site someplace claiming they can meet and fuck us. Has to be. In the 4 years I’ve been on the sinking ship it’s never been this outta control with bs like this

whirlerz
10-09-2017, 08:05 PM
Anyone else having login issues?
It's not password prob, just takes so long to load rn

AlyssaJane
10-11-2017, 11:29 AM
I was just excited to see some BBW's doing well in the contest today. I really liked when they mixed up the contest and rewarded us for hours worked rather than than this format of top earners. I make enough for myself but I am never in that top 200. I'm fine with what I make, and I would appreciate being rewarded for the contributions I do make to the site after 2 and a half years bringing them money. The contest format as it is literally does nothing for me. I'll always do my best and look for ways to improve, it just does nothing to motivate me which I assume is the contests intended purpose.

HollyJaydeXXX
10-11-2017, 11:47 AM
I noticed that as well! It goes to show that there is a large fan base for the BBW community and that definitely is shown on SM. Last contest I was in the Top 200 but got pushed out during the last few hours (it was that weird 2x48 hr. contest thing awhile back) however, I do know I could have ranked top 200 had I put the hours in (I probably only did 8-12 hrs. during the 48 hr. contest). However, I do not like the contests because I feel like we are fighting harder for what little traffic is currently available and so many more models log in when it is a contest.
I know that they were not promoting yesterday, I could see that i my traffic (free chat guests & potential members was cut nearly in half) and I was hoping that they would really start pushing in the traffic today for the contest but it seems like they are not. My potential members is 1/3 of what it typically is and my free chat guests are far and few between. I think running a contest when traffic is slow is a little redundant, but that is just me.

AlyssaJane
10-11-2017, 12:05 PM
I can't really say if the lack of traffic is because SM slow or if it's because I've slacked off camming the past few weeks. Just sheer free chat exhaustion. I've been focusing on Niteflirt just for my sanity because entertaining in free chat was just wearing me out, affecting my attitude and affecting my ability to close sales. I'm feeling much better tho, it will be interesting to see if my traffic/quality of traffic increases as my time worked does.

Also gaining weight is like the best thing I've ever done. Now I have all the belly fetish guys and they pay top $$ for it.