View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
DahliaSimone
10-28-2017, 11:28 AM
Guys keep having to come in and out, because my feed keeps locking up.....one guy couldnt take me private after trying repeatedly....tons of ins and outs (which Im attesting alot to my stream being fucked)....like....c'mon SM....get your shit together. You make enough off of us that your site should run smooth as silk....
HollyJaydeXXX
10-28-2017, 11:56 AM
Wrote SM Support the Following Support Request:
"Members are telling me that when they try to go Exclusive it only gives them the option to go Private. It shows Private and Block Private but no Exclusive or Block Exclusive."
Got This in Response:
"Hello,
Those customers will have to contact us for more information. Your account shows no issues."
Sooooo....???? So obviously there is something preventing people from going Exclusive but that is between ya'll and the customer and none of my business? That's the impression I got from this e-mail...
HollyJaydeXXX
10-28-2017, 12:57 PM
Due to the absolute FUCKERY happening on SM this month, I decided to go back through my percentages in paid chat for the last year:
Oct 16 2016 1% (130 mins)
Oct 23 2016 19% (995 mins)
Oct 30 2016 15% (746 mins)
Nov 6 2016 10% (968 mins)
Nov 13 2016 13% (229 mins)
Nov 20 2016 *no data*
Nov 27 2016 *no data*
Dec 4 2016 3% (379 mins)
Dec 11 2016 8% (496 mins)
Dec 18 2016 17% (257 mins)
Dec 25 2016 9% (553 mins)
Jan 1 2017 9% (503 mins)
Jan 8 2017 7% (408 mins)
Jan 15 2017 8% (608 mins)
Jan 22 2017 11% (98 mins)
Jan 29 2017 13% (644 mins)
Feb 5 2017 10% (545 mins)
Feb 12 2017 4% (456 mins)
Feb 19 2017 6% (285 mins)
Feb 26 2017 19% (649 mins)
Mar 5 2017 *no data*
Mar 12 2017 13% (238 mins)
Mar 19 2017 4% (599 mins)
Mar 26 2017 14% (660 mins)
April 2 2017 *no data*
April 9 2017 35% (17 mins)
April 16 2017 *no data*
April 23 2017 16% (76 mins)
April 30 2017 11% (74 mins)
May 7 2017 20% (449 mins)
May 14 2017 10% (719 mins)
May 21 2017 2% (283 mins)
May 28 2017 7% (59 mins)
June 4 2017 3% (308 mins)
June 11 2017 1% (159 mins)
June 18 2017 9% (43 mins)
June 25 2017 5% (207 mins)
July 2 2017 *no data*
July 9 2017 30% (100 mins)
July 16 2017 7% (76 mins)
July 23 2017 8% (160 mins)
July 30 2017 0% (249 mins)
Aug 6 2017 22% (1011 mins)
Aug 13 2017 32% (167 mins)
Aug 20 2017 4% (285 mins)
Aug 27 2017 26% (1381 mins)
Sept 3 2017 31% (1092 mins)
Sept 10 2017 25% (1077 mins)
Sept 17 2017 17% (560 mins)
Sept 24 2017 26% (669 mins)
Oct 1 2017 28% (1030 mins)
Oct 8 2017 11% (1424 mins)
Oct 15 2017 9% (1419 mins)
Oct 22 2017 10% (1404 mins)
Surprising, most of my good weeks (over 20%) were during the summer. Based on my history, it looks like winter has ALWAYS sucked for me and it only picks up around April/May, then slows back down and picks up again during August/September.
If anything, this analysis just pissed me the fuck off because it shows how much of my fucking life I have wasted on Streamate. The weeks were I am only in paid chat for less than 10% of the time are way more frequent than the ones where I am making a decent wage.
($5.99/min x 30%)x(60 mins x 10%) = $1.79/min. x 6 mins. = $10.78/hr.
Sunnylexie
10-28-2017, 03:10 PM
Wrote SM Support the Following Support Request:
"Members are telling me that when they try to go Exclusive it only gives them the option to go Private. It shows Private and Block Private but no Exclusive or Block Exclusive."
Got This in Response:
"Hello,
Those customers will have to contact us for more information. Your account shows no issues."
Sooooo....???? So obviously there is something preventing people from going Exclusive but that is between ya'll and the customer and none of my business? That's the impression I got from this e-mail...
Actually, they think our only business should be dropping our knickers.
I asked the support multiple times to send me info on how to turn cam to cam or up the spending limit or some other things on the member end so I could explain the guys how to do this and that right on the spot without having them go elsewhere. They sent me nothing and told me to direct the member their way if he any questions.
Dammit, how do they imagine a model sending a horny guy out to the tech department in the middle of a show? Do they really think he will be back to her after having his boner killed in such a brutal way?
Genoveve
10-28-2017, 04:12 PM
Wrote SM Support the Following Support Request:
"Members are telling me that when they try to go Exclusive it only gives them the option to go Private. It shows Private and Block Private but no Exclusive or Block Exclusive."
Got This in Response:
"Hello,
Those customers will have to contact us for more information. Your account shows no issues."
Sooooo....???? So obviously there is something preventing people from going Exclusive but that is between ya'll and the customer and none of my business? That's the impression I got from this e-mail...
Well unfortunately that does sound about right to me, it would be something on the guys' ends that they need to figure out, not you. Also, do all these guys that tell you the exclusive button isn't working then go pvt instead? Because guys will use any excuse to not spend money, so if they are all saying 'Too bad guess I can't spend on you,' I would guess that they're freeloaders with a false excuse. Or if you're someone who pushes and tries to hustle guys into going exclu instead of pvt I could see them saying 'Gee but there's no exclusive button.....'
HollyJaydeXXX
10-28-2017, 04:13 PM
Has anyone else requested a low rating removal lately and been ignored by SM? I had one last week and I’ve reached out numerous times and been ignored, but they are still processing my support requests regarding other topics.
Are they no longer adjusting bad ratings that may be justifiably removed?
HollyJaydeXXX
10-28-2017, 04:19 PM
Well unfortunately that does sound about right to me, it would be something on the guys' ends that they need to figure out, not you. Also, do all these guys that tell you the exclusive button isn't working then go pvt instead? Because guys will use any excuse to not spend money, so if they are all saying 'Too bad guess I can't spend on you,' I would guess that they're freeloaders with a false excuse. Or if you're someone who pushes and tries to hustle guys into going exclu instead of pvt I could see them saying 'Gee but there's no exclusive button.....'
While my first instinct would be to blame the guys, the majority of these guys who brought this up are regular spenders who have special requests and always go Exclusive. This issue was also brought up by first time customers who said the same thing. Note: My Private an Exclusive are the same price. I hate peepers in Private and tell everyone to go Exclusive.
HollyJaydeXXX
10-28-2017, 04:20 PM
And yes, they did go private instead (same price)
Genoveve
10-28-2017, 05:09 PM
Hmmm I wonder if SM is doing that to girls who try to circumvent the peepers issue by making their prices the same. Do you have a customer account? I would use it to seek out other girls with the same pricing set-up and see if they have the exclusive option. When is the last time you've had an exclusive?
HollyJaydeXXX
10-28-2017, 05:39 PM
I don’t have a customer account and I did change the rates back to an elevated Exclusive and started getting exclusives again. I don’t know why SM would be against models only doing Exclusives so they bypass peepers. I know quite a few models who do the same thing that I was doing. That 30 second rule is stupid as fuck and I get at least two peepers a minute when I’m in private chat. But then again... I don’t understand most of the shit SM does these days.
Genoveve
10-28-2017, 05:41 PM
If I were you I'd make a thread on here addressed to the chicks who match their pricing on SM and see if they haven't been getting exclusives either.
HollyJaydeXXX
10-28-2017, 05:45 PM
If I were you I'd make a thread on here addressed to the chicks who match their pricing on SM and see if they haven't been getting exclusives either.
Excellent advice! Thank you doll!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-28-2017, 06:56 PM
Please don't start another SM thread. I know you're trying to find out if something is going on but the truth is there's always something going on and personally I'm getting a bit tired of logging in and seeing how much Streamate and camming sucks. Everytime a new a SM topic is created it's filled with venting. Even the venting threads are filled mostly with models who use SM. I won't deny that there aren't issues but they aren't the only game in town. I sincerely apologize for stepping in but it's become too much.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-28-2017, 07:04 PM
Also I just wanted to add that I'm not trying to prevent anyone from finding out the "truth", but really at this point I don't think it will do any good. It's just one more thing to obsess over and a distraction that will prevent you from moving forward.
Genoveve
10-28-2017, 07:15 PM
I do think there is an annoyingly large amount of bitching over SM, especially from people who show no interest in parting ways with it, but I feel like trying to learn if a possible change has been made to how pvts and exclusives work is a different boat. If I purposely matched my pvt and exclu rates and then realized no one was able to go exclusive anymore I'd want to know if it was an actual thing because then I'd know I needed to change my pricing.
Now that I'm thinking about it HollyJayde can probably answer it herself by answering this question:
When is the last time you've had an exclusive?
If you still get them here and there then there probably has been no change to what is made available to the guys when dealing with chicks who match their pricing or make their exclusives cheaper, if you haven't had one in days then them making that change is more likely.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-28-2017, 07:41 PM
I wasn’t going to LOL All I cared about was doing my Exclusives and once I changed the rate they came back. Finding out “the truth” at this point, is a suicide mission.
You’re right, there are problems and it’s mostly SM girls who are venting... wonderful that we have these threads to talk to each other and find out what’s going on with the site since no one wants to tell us anything anymore.
But to be quite honest, in last few weeks you’ve been posting more and condemning models for airing their grievances in the venting and camming sucks threads. I believe you created a new thread where you talked about how much you disliked seeing Camming Sucks at the top of the thread list everytime you logged on. It’s really disheartening and makes me, and other models I’ve spoke to, feel very unwelcome on StripperWeb if moderators are getting on us because we vent in the appropriate threads. When it sucks and there are issues, I post in the correlating threads. When it rocks, I post in camming rocks.
I’m sorry if Streamate has been a load of garbage for the majority of us and I’m sorry you’re so sick of having to moderate venting threads. Since StripperWeb obviously isn’t an open space for models to share with one another, without moderators talking about how irritated they are by our bitching, I feel very strongly that I shouldn’t come on this site anymore and discuss with my peers.
Best of luck to you all! XO
I hear ya! But I too have models contacting me about whats going on with all of the negativity on the board. And yup I did bump an old thread asking people to be more mindful and respectful to other people in regards to all of the venting. I do that from time to time to remind some of you that there are other people who are still striving and trying to communicate with like minded people. Most days the top four threads are complaints coming from the very same people who are recycling vent threads. I was genuinely happy when you decided to create your support group because clearly it's needed and I still hope that those of you who are looking for a way out will continue to use it. I stepped in tonight not to offend you but to simply ask that you or anyone else not create another thread going all in on Streamate. And I'm happy to hear that you understand that it would be pointless.
I love Stripperweb and I understand that it's not gonna always be Sunshine and rainbows, but often times the negativity isn't just isolated to the designated vent threads. People are people I understand that, but we even have people who are excelling not wanting to post here because some have been targeted and the others are made to feel guilty. That's messed up. I don't think you HollyJayde has targeted anyone? Not that I remember? This isn't just about you but everyone here. I read some post and cringe when specific model types are attacked or blamed for ruining the game. I've had to delete screenshots talking negatively about other models. I've also had to delete threads where models were called out by name and criticized. I keep seeing this more and more. It's not fair or constructive. This board is supposed to be for everyone and a place where people can come and communicate the highs and lows of the industry. It's become unbalanced for far too long and I would like to see it evened out a bit.
imelly21
10-29-2017, 05:46 AM
I will respectfully bump into this conversation.
For some people working on SM is their bread and butter and since SM is so secretive about this and that and to be honest so complicated to work with ( tech wise, placement...other sites have it easier) and since they are so vague when they " explain" why things don't work and how they should work, I think it is very reasonable for models to complain vent and bitch. We are not doing it because we have nothing else to do. And not because we love to do it. We do it because there is a reason why. A big reason why : it messes with our income.
I think you are doing a fabulous job, Phat! I never get to see things that you mention ( name calling, attacks etc) so you are on top of it.
But I also see Holly's point. I too become obsessed over why things are not working correctly with SM. It is SM's fault. They never tell us. Sometimes I just dont post anymore but when I see others post I can't wait to read it. Maybe , just maybe I find the secret.
coco789
10-29-2017, 06:20 AM
I don’t have a customer account and I did change the rates back to an elevated Exclusive and started getting exclusives again. I don’t know why SM would be against models only doing Exclusives so they bypass peepers. I know quite a few models who do the same thing that I was doing. That 30 second rule is stupid as fuck and I get at least two peepers a minute when I’m in private chat. But then again... I don’t understand most of the shit SM does these days.
make your private rate higher than your exclusive rate if you want to avoid peepers.
christylive
10-29-2017, 08:03 AM
I will respectfully bump into this conversation.
For some people working on SM is their bread and butter and since SM is so secretive about this and that and to be honest so complicated to work with ( tech wise, placement...other sites have it easier) and since they are so vague when they " explain" why things don't work and how they should work, I think it is very reasonable for models to complain vent and bitch. We are not doing it because we have nothing else to do. And not because we love to do it. We do it because there is a reason why. A big reason why : it messes with our income.
I think you are doing a fabulous job, Phat! I never get to see things that you mention ( name calling, attacks etc) so you are on top of it.
But I also see Holly's point. I too become obsessed over why things are not working correctly with SM. It is SM's fault. They never tell us. Sometimes I just dont post anymore but when I see others post I can't wait to read it. Maybe , just maybe I find the secret.
Personally, how I feel is this, this is a thread to vent, bitch and moan. As you mentioned SM is a lot of girls bread and butter. It’s CLEAR it’s funky right now. girls can complain and junk up their twitter timeline with the famous hashtag or they can come here, to a thread and loosen the load of that days stress. I know it isn’t “pretty” to see this thread at the top daily,weekly,monthly or whatever but realistically it happens that way sometimes. This thread being at the top of the list is just showing cam girls aren’t having the most awesome stretch of time and I don’t think anyone should be punished or persecuted for it either. That’s kinda like someone going to the camming rocks thread and than complaining that there’s too much positivity there. Why not just scroll past something if you know in advance you don’t like what’s there? SM doesn’t communicate with us So after a hellish shift or a long stretch of glitches there’s not really anything you can do besides come here and see if it’s others having the same/similar issues and talk about said issues. And if new models see this thread, which I hope they do, it’ll just show them that the life of a cam girl isn’t always money rain showers and a walk in the park. stress comes with being a full time cam girl, not so good moments comes with being a cam girl. I’m sure there’s many times where the happy threads are at the top and this one is at the bottom, however right now this is just not a pretty stretch of months for many. Name calling, fighting and childish behavior in this thread or any thread isn’t becoming of us as women... but neither is being annoyed at us for positing in the appropriate thread. anyway, happy Sunday ladies!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-29-2017, 08:41 AM
Lets be clear I am not preventing people from venting. BUT there are a core group here on this board who're taking it way too far. Systematically bumping every single vent thread one after the other. Is not okay. If thats not you, then great. My words arw not for you.
If you've never posted a screenshot of other models here on SW, awesome my words are not about you.
If you've never created a thread with sole purpose of talking trash about specific performers, I'd like to thank you for not going there making mod duties more difficult. Also this isn't about you.
If you've never interrupted a good vibe thread accusing successful models of lying or bragging too much. You're amazing. Keep up the civility. This isnt about you.
If you dont make negative comments accusing European, South American models of lowering the price points, my issue is not with you.
If you're not on Stripperweb, throwing shade on Streamate models with vibe toys hustling to make money, please disregard this post.
If you have participated in any of those things then you should definitely pay attention to the point I'm trying to make. I use to be a champion for people who needed a space to unload and vent. I've even had people who are balling get pissed at me when I stopped them from going all in on complainers and people who aren't doing well. Im about balance and I will step in and speak when I feel like there needs to be a reset. I'm not going to let negativity over run this board. When I quietly delete things and go on with my day is when Ive noticed that things get worse. Again this isnt about all of you who post here.
For the newbies who are lurking or newly signed up please don't let these distractions prevent you from giving it a go. There is still so much money to be made in the adult industry. And how you go about getting it is really up to you and your mindset. If anyone ever wants to chop it up and talk strategy my pm's are open.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-29-2017, 08:44 AM
Please by all means continue your vent fest. :)
christylive
10-29-2017, 08:50 AM
Lets be clear I am not preventing people from venting. BUT there are a core group here on this board who're taking it way too far. Systematically bumping every single vent thread one after the other. Is not okay. If thats not you, then great. My words arw not for you.
If you've never posted a screenshot of other models here on SW, awesome my words are not about you.
If you've never created a thread with sole purpose of talking trash about specific performers, I'd like to thank you for not going there making mod duties more difficult. Also this isn't about you.
If you've never interrupted a good vibe thread accusing successful models of lying or bragging too much. You're amazing. Keep up the civility. This isnt about you.
If you dont make negative comments accusing European, South American models of lowering the price points, my issue is not with you.
If you're not on Stripperweb, throwing shade on Streamate models with vibe toys hustling to make money, please disregard this post.
If you have participated in any of those things then you should definitely pay attention to the point I'm trying to make. I use to be a champion for people who needed a space to unload and vent. I've even had people who are balling get pissed at me when I stopped them from going all in on complainers and people who aren't doing well. Im about balance and I will step in and speak when I feel like there needs to be a reset. I'm not going to let negativity over run this board. When I quietly delete things and go on with my day is when Ive noticed that things get worse. Again this isnt about all of you who post here.
For the newbies who are lurking or newly signed up please don't let these distractions prevent you from giving it a go. There is still so much money to be made in the adult industry. And how you go about getting it is really up to you and your mindset. If anyone ever wants to chop it up and talk strategy my pm's are open.
49080
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-29-2017, 08:50 AM
I will respectfully bump into this conversation.
For some people working on SM is their bread and butter and since SM is so secretive about this and that and to be honest so complicated to work with ( tech wise, placement...other sites have it easier) and since they are so vague when they " explain" why things don't work and how they should work, I think it is very reasonable for models to complain vent and bitch. We are not doing it because we have nothing else to do. And not because we love to do it. We do it because there is a reason why. A big reason why : it messes with our income.
I think you are doing a fabulous job, Phat! I never get to see things that you mention ( name calling, attacks etc) so you are on top of it.
But I also see Holly's point. I too become obsessed over why things are not working correctly with SM. It is SM's fault. They never tell us. Sometimes I just dont post anymore but when I see others post I can't wait to read it. Maybe , just maybe I find the secret.
You've been a jewel and a gem and I always appreciate your input here on the forum. My intentions are not to offend you or make you feel unwelcomed. My apologies if I did.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-29-2017, 08:53 AM
49080
Are you here trying to stir the pot and make this into something else? Im not sure I understand the intention behind this gif?
KatyBoleyn
10-29-2017, 09:49 AM
Are you here trying to stir the pot and make this into something else? Im not sure I understand the intention behind this gif?
I think she's being supportive.
anonymous camgirl
10-29-2017, 04:04 PM
hmmm? what are you saying here? my rates for premium/exclusive are the same.. I actually think I make more money this way..I believe they believe they are getting deal .. I could be wrong.. who knows.. I have been trying to figure things out for to many years to count now.
Hmmm I wonder if SM is doing that to girls who try to circumvent the peepers issue by making their prices the same. Do you have a customer account? I would use it to seek out other girls with the same pricing set-up and see if they have the exclusive option. When is the last time you've had an exclusive?
sovereignv
10-29-2017, 08:14 PM
My exclusives are cheaper than my private sessions and customers have no issue getting into exclusive sessions with me. I don't know why it doesn't work for some people.
I think rather than tying your mind in knots trying to figure out what kind of "game" SM is trying to play it's better to accept the simpler explanation, which is that the site is weird and buggy as hell and straining to keep up with the times, technically. Hopefully they'll sort this out. I don't mean to say this to admonish anybody but rather because it's not healthy to feed your paranoia. Sometimes what seems like malicious targeting is just pure bad luck or incompetence. SM would gain from it too if all their models were making loads of money and I don't think they would go out of their way to try and prevent models from making money. If someone's not paying YOU then SM's not getting their cut either.
I understand how frustrating it is when the money dries up and I really feel the same way, a desperation that can turn really panicky. I just really urge everybody to try to take good care of themselves and maybe find alternative sources of income if SM is going completely tits up for you.
In regards to the latest posts, i feel for you all struggling on SM cause it's the same here.
I personally gave up trying to figure things out cause i got sick from it literally, for many years i been the only bread winner in the house and i dealt with huge pressure over making an income, all that stress hit me badly to the point i needed surgery to save my life, it was a major surgery with a huge impact on me.
All i can tell people here is: be strong and watch for ur health, i had no choice but to keep going and i did it till i could not anymore.
We cam girls do what we have to do, sometimes there is no other option but to keep going.
Good luck everyone and stay healthy, much love to all of u people, struggling or thriving!!
Teddy_Bear
10-29-2017, 09:29 PM
I want to apologise (yes in the venting thread) for my pessimism lately I've been severely depressed linked to low earnings and that vicious cycle has continued to kill me every day. I changed my outlook tonight and practiced some LOA... it worked I earned in 8 hours what I am happy to log off with and then a bit more.
I have been one of the girlies that has pretty much only posted negative things recently and I hope that will change very soon :)
TheBrownFox
10-29-2017, 11:12 PM
I was under the impression that guys with brand new accounts don't have the exclusive option. Not sure where I heard that.
I'm not a Streamate model anymore, but wanted to comment on this. When I used to cam on SM, I remember having a member or two or three telling me that the exclusive option wasn't showing up for them. At first, I probably thought they were full of shit, but - if memory serves me correctly - I realized that for new members, once they A) tip 5 GOLD minimum in public chat, or B) take you premium for the first time, the next time they visit your chat after that is when the exclusive option shows up.
It's been so long that I'm not 100% sure I've got that right, but I really do think that was how it worked back then. I used to wonder why the hell aren't these guys seeing the exclusive button. And then as soon as I had them do option A or B, suddenly they told me they could see the exclusive button. Now I want to do a search on here and AC Forum to see if I'd posted about this before (back when I was active on SM), because I feel like I made a post about it somewhere some years ago. I used to have a different name here on StripperWeb though, before I'd gotten locked out of my SW account.
Blovely
10-29-2017, 11:39 PM
^^^^TBF, you are correct. A few people have posted that on here throughout the years, I think it may even be in the SM thread. If someone tells me that they don't see exclusive and I know that they aren't new I usually tell them to refresh their page, logout and then back in, try internet explorer and or lastly restart their computer.
To touch on the point of SM's current state and the current topic of this threads conversation I'm all for venting, bitching, complaining, whatever you want to call it. I however think that its pointless to try an figure SM out. They have never been transparent about what's going on and they will never be. I mean this is the worst things have gotten so if they were going to be transparent at anytime this would be the time to be. I feel like at this point hoping and waiting for them to get their shit together or speak out is a lost cause because they have shown their true colors repeatedly. Its insanity to think they they're going to change at this point when its literally been years of the same thing.
Models have been complaining for years about glitches and traffic, we know they hear us but they refuse to fix or address anything. Customers have complained for years as well and again they refuse to fix or address anything. If of all people they were going to listen to it should've been their customers but nope they won't even fix the site for them.
I just feel like there comes a time that if you are doing the same thing over and over again or the same thing is happening over and over and you aren't getting the results that you want then its time to make a change. You can't keep doing the same thing over and over again and hope for or expect a different result....that's literally insanity. Plus doing the same thing over and over again never works you always end up at the same point.
Yawl know I was all up and through this and the Camming Sucks thread but at this point I see the forest for the trees and now I'm just rolling with the punches of SM, camming and this industry in general until I'm able to successfully come up with something better whether its part-time or full-time. Which reminds me that I need to finish my post about that...I've been meaning to post about camming and my future plans in here but since my thoughts on that are so dam long I keep forgetting to finish and post it.
Anyways I've never felt that there's anything wrong with venting or complaining..... its human nature and every person that has a job or an issue vents about what's bothering them, camming shouldn't be any different. I just think that its important to not let it or that engery consume you and control every aspect of your life. I also strongly feel that if there are things that you don't like and it's affecting you to the point of depression, anxiety, stress, changing your attitude/happiness, etc then something needs to change whether its your hustle, persona, site, job, etc because letting something have that much control over you isn't healthy. Your mental, physical and emotional health are extremely important which is why I switched up my hustle and am now seriously looking into other things to do to bring in money. I'm not religious at all but the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is probably the only story that really sticks with me.......the premises of put yourself first as well as save yourself is truth.
someoldnoob
10-30-2017, 12:42 AM
This past Friday, the broadcaster made it impossible for me to work on the site. It hasn't done this in a while, but once it happens, it's usually when I need to work my backup site until it works itself out. For no reason, my video quality will drop from 1280 into the 400s and no matter how many times I try to sign back in, restart, the only thing that seems to work for me is taking time away from SM. This could be an issue with my computer, and if I wanted to, I'm sure I could just use OBS, but I've been getting slightly better paying traffic since I haven't updated my broadcaster, and I'm a superstitious person when it comes to this business. I've been noticing a LOT of guys are having connection issues.
I've been away from the forums and socializing in general, so I hope this isn't interpreted as stirring up anything, but about a year ago I took the advice of the models in here who suggested raising my rates and either matching my excl to privates or lowering my excl rates, and this has been the most helpful and beneficial for me. I still get exclusives, and the guys who are going to bust after 2-3 minutes are going to do it regardless of my rates, so I may as well optimize it by having highest pricing possible. I'll run "specials" once in a while where I lower my excl by no more than $1 and I've noticed this is when my regulars who don't get shows will take me into pvt at the highest price the site allows. Some customers seem to do this out of ignorance, but I think some also do it out of courtesy.
Also to cope with the 30 second peepers/time vampire trolls (the ones who take u pvt to keep u from getting tips in free chat) I stay relaxed and use that first 30+ seconds to turn on the charm and use my words to seduce instead of standing up and removing any clothing, etc. I don't do this to waste time, I do it to encourage the customer to settle in, as well as get myself into sexy mode. It's saved me a lot of frustration and I haven't thrown a keyboard across the room in months.
I do like SM's festive design lately. It's the little things, after all...
SoloDesire
10-30-2017, 07:20 PM
First guy that talked to me tonight says "What do you do for free?" Seriously Streamate? This is the traffic I'm paying you to give me?! Great. Just fucking great. At least he acknowledged it was a pay site...I guess.
Snowy0Star
10-30-2017, 07:32 PM
First guy that talked to me tonight says "What do you do for free?" Seriously Streamate? This is the traffic I'm paying you to give me?! Great. Just fucking great. At least he acknowledged it was a pay site...I guess.
Thats when i flash my middle finger till he leaves
Genoveve
10-30-2017, 07:39 PM
This past Friday, the broadcaster made it impossible for me to work on the site. It hasn't done this in a while, but once it happens, it's usually when I need to work my backup site until it works itself out. For no reason, my video quality will drop from 1280 into the 400s and no matter how many times I try to sign back in, restart, the only thing that seems to work for me is taking time away from SM.
In my experience the more chicks are online the more the fps issues happen, and usually there are more chicks online as it gets closer to the end of the week. I had a ton of fps issues on Friday night as well, I was even being dropped down to 360x180 and when I looked at other chicks' rooms I saw that a lot of them were not in 1280x720, some were even hella pixelated like I was so it definitely was a site-wide problem.
someoldnoob
10-31-2017, 03:05 AM
Just had a private and it was something like user_fjdjdjejsj474838 and while in the private someone came into free chat with the SAME exact name as the guy in my private except the last number was different. WTH
Side note: these guys are out in full force right now
I got a couple in my room when I started my shift at 6pm or so and they were just trying to beg for flashes without tipping, or acting as if they'd tip after. i changed sites after 2 hours of nothing on SM. i'm giving it one last shot but it seems to be a dead zone even when i dressed up and changed pics and everything. glad i didn't spend any cash on a costume this year.
JoyKitten
10-31-2017, 03:17 AM
In my experience the more chicks are online the more the fps issues happen, and usually there are more chicks online as it gets closer to the end of the week. I had a ton of fps issues on Friday night as well, I was even being dropped down to 360x180 and when I looked at other chicks' rooms I saw that a lot of them were not in 1280x720, some were even hella pixelated like I was so it definitely was a site-wide problem.
Yes, site wide problem.
Today, for me, the entire site was pixelated.
Are y'all aware that beneath your stream window is a 'gear' icon for our custies to change the stream settings with which they're viewing us.
To correct the pixelation (on Firefox & Chrome.... IE appeared ok) I had to change the setting from 'auto' to '720p', which immediately corrected the problem.
Custies shouldn't need to monkey with those settings, so it's definately a site issue. If they're complaining that your stream is weird & pixelated, have'em try changing that setting to 720p. (but once SM gets the glitch fixed, they'll want to change back to 'auto' so that their system does the adjusting)
So frustrating! Grrrr......
DeepThoughts
10-31-2017, 03:37 AM
First guy that talked to me tonight says "What do you do for free?" Seriously Streamate? This is the traffic I'm paying you to give me?! Great. Just fucking great. At least he acknowledged it was a pay site...I guess.
I tell them questions are free. You can ask me whatever the fuck your fucked up little brain can imagine!
However, not all answers are free ;) Thats the hook
^^^ This hahaa, when they want specific answers i tell them to tip or come pvt to get the answer, i loooove this, i really do love the power of saying "Pay me bitch!" (i sometimes type exactly this if they get on my nerves haha)
imelly21
11-01-2017, 12:13 PM
5 people all left at once while a gold show countdown. they came back and said " glitch". " it said you were in private"
Snowy0Star
11-01-2017, 11:43 PM
A customer told me tonight that the site is running commercials on Comedy Central that says the site is free and doesnt mention a word about having to pay. If thats true that would explain why so many freeloaders are on there now and wont pay a dime. Im going to record stuff on there late at night and try to get the commercial.
i read in the vent thread it was because a lot of dudes are comming over from porn hub since the partnership witch would make sense too tho its probably a combo of both witch pretty much means that SM has no clue WTF theyre doing and how to bring in PAYING traffic to the site witch pretty much explains EVERYTHING aside from the glitches witch is a whole nother story
JaneBurgess
11-02-2017, 12:06 AM
i read in the vent thread it was because a lot of dudes are comming over from porn hub since the partnership witch would make sense too tho its probably a combo of both witch pretty much means that SM has no clue WTF theyre doing and how to bring in PAYING traffic to the site witch pretty much explains EVERYTHING aside from the glitches witch is a whole nother story
They dont want to pay for traffic like they used to. They had great traffic when they paid but now its all shit traffic and morons wanting cheap Gold shows. I can go to another site and do shows like Gold shows and get paid at least 50 percent and sell anything I want to. They cant compete with Chaturbate or MFC in payment percentage or traffic anymore. Really they are one of the lowest paying sites and if they arent going to provide quality traffic anymore theres no point in paying them 65 percent. You can send your own traffic over to indy sites or do phone sites and get paid up to 85 percent.
Snowy0Star
11-02-2017, 12:14 AM
They dont want to pay for traffic like they used to. They had great traffic when they paid but now its all shit traffic and morons wanting cheap Gold shows. I can go to another site and do shows like Gold shows and get paid at least 50 percent and sell anything I want to. They cant compete with Chaturbate or MFC in payment percentage or traffic anymore. Really they are one of the lowest paying sites and if they arent going to provide quality traffic anymore theres no point in paying them 65 percent. You can send your own traffic over to indy sites or do phone sites and get paid up to 85 percent.
i quit SM about 2 months ago and now i just go on every now and then because of everything you just said .
JaneBurgess
11-02-2017, 12:17 AM
i quit SM about 2 months ago and now i just go on every now and then because of everything you just said .
I dont blame you. Cam Soda asked me to cam on there and they pay 50 percent and I can sell SC and stuff on there so Im going to check it out. I just cant feel like Im killing myself for only 35 percent. Even on tips they still take 65 percent which is ridiculous. I didnt know they had a deal with Porn Hub but that makes sense that a ton of freeloaders come from there. Not sure why any paid cam site would want tube site traffic.
Snowy0Star
11-02-2017, 12:25 AM
I dont blame you. Cam Soda asked me to cam on there and they pay 50 percent and I can sell SC and stuff on there so Im going to check it out. I just cant feel like Im killing myself for only 35 percent. Even on tips they still take 65 percent which is ridiculous. I didnt know they had a deal with Porn Hub but that makes sense that a ton of freeloaders come from there. Not sure why any paid cam site would want tube site traffic.
Cam soda is pretty good . when i switched to token sites as my main income i joined stripchat cam4 and camsoda i just made a bonga cams account last week (im not expecting much from it tho but every little bit helps) i havent used it yet tho. today was my first day back on in like a week and i didnt want to overwhelm myself since the past week or so has mainly involved me being stressed over things going on at home and play video games lol
JaneBurgess
11-02-2017, 12:06 PM
Cam soda is pretty good . when i switched to token sites as my main income i joined stripchat cam4 and camsoda i just made a bonga cams account last week (im not expecting much from it tho but every little bit helps) i havent used it yet tho. today was my first day back on in like a week and i didnt want to overwhelm myself since the past week or so has mainly involved me being stressed over things going on at home and play video games lol
Thats good to hear. I like that their trainers are porn stars/cam performers so they know what they are doing.
JaneBurgess
11-02-2017, 12:11 PM
That's how adult bring in traffic whether its a cam site or dating chatline. they bring in the guys saying a certain portion is free and they expect the service to get them to buy/upgrade to a premium.
I use to work in a call centre for a dating chatline. and the phone company, the complaints from guys who claim they didn't know , or won't admit to the charges is ridiculous.
Thats how it is now, thats not how it used to be. SM used to buy quality traffic, thats a well known fact. Getting traffic from a tube site is a stupid idea since they are full of freeloaders. The same with dating sites, thats not good traffic. When you are paid 65 to 70 percent from each performer on your site you can pony up the funds to buy traffic. They are paid for traffic, thats part of the deal. If they want to not pay and send shitty traffic they can raise everyones payments to fifty percent. They cant legally have it both ways because they too have to honor contracts and payment deals.
kittykrane
11-03-2017, 09:06 AM
anyone else having getting cut off left and right this am? I'm connected to the internet but keep getting "you've lost connection" on SM. It's happened about 4 times this am. grr...Doesn't matter which broadcast method I use either.
SoloDesire
11-03-2017, 09:08 AM
anyone else having getting cut off left and right this am? I'm connected to the internet but keep getting "you've lost connection" on SM. It's happened about 4 times this am. grr...Doesn't matter which broadcast method I use either.
Nope, smooth sailing here. I've been on over 2 hours straight without a disconnect.
kittykrane
11-03-2017, 09:11 AM
Nope, smooth sailing here. I've been on over 2 hours straight without a disconnect.
Thanks..IDK what the problem is...gonna restart my pc to see if that helps.