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imelly21
11-03-2017, 01:14 PM
Conspiracy theory time! ( Just because I was thinking of the pics in that link Phat posted, from one of SM's parties. There are some models in those pics that we all know since they work alot ). So the theory is this: these models who went to SM party ( or parties) KNOW the secret. And the just won't tell us. I mean Im just thinking: if you go to one of such parties, you eventually meet a higher up in the company right? And Im sure the placement topic comes up maybe even the " stripper web forum" topic. I have this gut feeling that some models know more than others and they just wont tell. Just my opinion.
Genoveve
11-03-2017, 01:25 PM
So the theory is this: these models who went to SM party ( or parties) KNOW the secret.
What secret?
imelly21
11-03-2017, 01:29 PM
What secret?
Just a metaphor. The secret to a better placement, to more traffic, to better answers from Customer support. Stuff like that.
Genoveve
11-03-2017, 01:32 PM
I didn't know any of that was a secret.
sovereignv
11-03-2017, 03:53 PM
Dude, I've said it before, but seriously, what's the fucking point in being conspiratorial. You're only hurting yourself.
imelly21
11-03-2017, 05:30 PM
Dude, I've said it before, but seriously, what's the fucking point in being conspiratorial. You're only hurting yourself.
I understand that you do not understand my point or don't agree with my point and Im ok with that. I just don't think top models get a brick wall for an answer when they ask about glitches, traffic and placement. The idea of us being treated differently is not new around here on the forum. Im trying to figure out why 5-8 people exit the room at once, why they don't talk, why they say I was not around when I was and so on. Why Liz did not reply to me in 1 week after sending her "proof of glitch". Some models say they stopped trying to figure these things out but I can't stop.
Genoveve
11-03-2017, 05:46 PM
why 5-8 people exit the room at once
Because sometimes people happen to all leave at the same time.
why they don't talk
Because a lot of people prefer not to.
why they say I was not around when I was and so on.
Because they are either full of shit and making up an excuse as to why they didn't spend on you or because they have no idea what they are talking about.
DeepThoughts
11-04-2017, 05:18 AM
I understand that you do not understand my point or don't agree with my point and Im ok with that. I just don't think top models get a brick wall for an answer when they ask about glitches, traffic and placement. The idea of us being treated differently is not new around here on the forum. Im trying to figure out why 5-8 people exit the room at once, why they don't talk, why they say I was not around when I was and so on. Why Liz did not reply to me in 1 week after sending her "proof of glitch". Some models say they stopped trying to figure these things out but I can't stop.
You can prove this theory if you like. Just become a top model and see if its true!
Also if your logging in 5 to 8 hours a day and making the site thousands and thousands of dollars a week plus driving in traffic that spends on you and other girls then its really no surprise that the company might give you a direct line to their support staff in case you need it.
Plus if your a top model you dont need traffic driven to you just being on top means your going to have tons of traffic passing through every time your on.
There is certainly a conspiracy here. Its SM's conspiracy to make more money! No Theory is needed, its just makes good business sense.
But like I said if you want the proof then become a top model and you will know for certain.
Girly_Girl
11-04-2017, 07:15 AM
Anyone else having problems with their sound using smbroadcaster? I keep losing my sound and then I have to close the broadcaster and reopen it to fix my sound problem. I have to do this several times a day!! Any else having this problem?
Lovely_charlie
11-04-2017, 02:03 PM
Can anyone help me ? Need to install the sm broadcaster, and now it cant find my camera, others programs do, anyone knows what to do?
Scorpio Girl
11-04-2017, 02:17 PM
anyone else having getting cut off left and right this am? I'm connected to the internet but keep getting "you've lost connection" on SM. It's happened about 4 times this am. grr...Doesn't matter which broadcast method I use either.
That kept happening to me along with my CPU going crazy two days ago and at the end of the night when I shut down, my computer installed the creator's update to Windows 10. Last night, everything was fine streaming, so I think it was downloading this huge update and overloading my computer.
Scorpio Girl
11-04-2017, 02:18 PM
Anyone else having problems with their sound using smbroadcaster? I keep losing my sound and then I have to close the broadcaster and reopen it to fix my sound problem. I have to do this several times a day!! Any else having this problem?
I had that a few times last week.
Scorpio Girl
11-04-2017, 02:20 PM
Conspiracy theory time! ( Just because I was thinking of the pics in that link Phat posted, from one of SM's parties. There are some models in those pics that we all know since they work alot ). So the theory is this: these models who went to SM party ( or parties) KNOW the secret. And the just won't tell us. I mean Im just thinking: if you go to one of such parties, you eventually meet a higher up in the company right? And Im sure the placement topic comes up maybe even the " stripper web forum" topic. I have this gut feeling that some models know more than others and they just wont tell. Just my opinion.
I went to the SM party last year and I definitely don't know any secret. I wish I did. :)
JaneBurgess
11-04-2017, 04:06 PM
I agree with JaneBurgess here. Also the last link posted with the traffic over the last 8 years is an eye opener. wow
I flat out asked them and they said they are no longer buying traffic like they once did. They went to dating traffic and someone on here mentioned some deal with PornHub. They have always had affiliate traffic, thats nothing new. The stats for their traffic are posted on multiple accurate sites and it is down a lot. Its not a coincidence it started to go down with the roll out of Gold shows which is when the glitches really became bad. Good customers left due to not liking the changes in the site and cheap customers came because you can buy a Gold show for 5 bucks.
People like to argue about this but anyone on the site before Gold shows can tell you traffic was way better paying traffic, glitches were rare, freeloaders were few and far between, no nudity was allowed at all in free chat, etc. No one said it was the end of SM but you cant deny the dying traffic and influx of cheap/broke guys. I really do hope they turn things around and its disappointing they dont take the suggestions maybe performers have posted over the years. Performers are the ones that deal with customers and hear the complaints and ideas.
anonymous camgirl
11-04-2017, 04:08 PM
True words have never been spoken!
You can prove this theory if you like. Just become a top model and see if its true!
Also if your logging in 5 to 8 hours a day and making the site thousands and thousands of dollars a week plus driving in traffic that spends on you and other girls then its really no surprise that the company might give you a direct line to their support staff in case you need it.
Plus if your a top model you dont need traffic driven to you just being on top means your going to have tons of traffic passing through every time your on.
There is certainly a conspiracy here. Its SM's conspiracy to make more money! No Theory is needed, its just makes good business sense.
But like I said if you want the proof then become a top model and you will know for certain.
someoldnoob
11-04-2017, 07:16 PM
People like to argue about this but anyone on the site before Gold shows can tell you traffic was way better paying traffic, glitches were rare, freeloaders were few and far between, no nudity was allowed at all in free chat, etc. No one said it was the end of SM but you cant deny the dying traffic and influx of cheap/broke guys. I really do hope they turn things around and its disappointing they dont take the suggestions maybe performers have posted over the years. Performers are the ones that deal with customers and hear the complaints and ideas.
^ Yep. Before Gold Shows, it was pretty consistent traffic with plenty of guys staying in private for sometimes quite a decent amount of time. Exclusives were more for the customers with specific requests, fetishes, or roleplay set-ups that might have taken a few minutes to explain, but were not hard to come by. Once the Gold Shows were rolled out, suddenly it was promoted as a way to make thousands of dollars a night (think how strip club earnings have always been promoted) because the porn stars were doing anal shows and getting somewhere like $700-850+ because it wasn't considered a standard show. Nobody was allowed to even show breasts in free chat, much less zoom in on their panties that barely cover their genitals while rubbing it with tip vibes. I've seen it happen with strip clubs, and it's obviously how it's been going for cam sites, but the fewer restrictions and the more customers can get away with for very little, overall, the worse off the performer's business.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-04-2017, 07:35 PM
^ Yep. Before Gold Shows, it was pretty consistent traffic with plenty of guys staying in private for sometimes quite a decent amount of time. Exclusives were more for the customers with specific requests, fetishes, or roleplay set-ups that might have taken a few minutes to explain, but were not hard to come by. Once the Gold Shows were rolled out, suddenly it was promoted as a way to make thousands of dollars a night (think how strip club earnings have always been promoted) because the porn stars were doing anal shows and getting somewhere like $700-850+ because it wasn't considered a standard show. Nobody was allowed to even show breasts in free chat, much less zoom in on their panties that barely cover their genitals while rubbing it with tip vibes. I've seen it happen with strip clubs, and it's obviously how it's been going for cam sites, but the fewer restrictions and the more customers can get away with for very little, overall, the worse off the performer's business.
That's not true of everyone. Some people actually thrive with the changes and the option to tease topless and use tip vibes. I admit the freechat culture has changed as it should overtime, but I will make the argument that it's not gotten worse for everyone's business.
Girly_Girl
11-04-2017, 08:32 PM
I had that a few times last week.
Its been happening to me several times a day for over a month now
JaneBurgess
11-04-2017, 09:15 PM
That's not true of everyone. Some people actually thrive with the changes and the option to tease topless and use tip vibes. I admit the freechat culture has changed as it should overtime, but I will make the argument that it's not gotten worse for everyone's business.
I think a lot of performers joined SM because its supposed to be a private based site. By allowing nudity and toys in free chat youre almost like a token based site without the higher pay. Granted Gold shows can be amazing for some people but a struggle for others. Ive always been against nudity beyond a flash in free chat since anyone can view the cams for free without any age verification. It makes me nervous sites will get shut down for that
Scorpio Girl
11-04-2017, 10:39 PM
Its been happening to me several times a day for over a month now
That sucks! I usually don't even realize it until one of my regulars tell me.
someoldnoob
11-05-2017, 12:54 AM
I could have clarified my comment a little better. You're right- it's drastically changed how the public chatrooms function, which is a better distinction I didn't make. While I can do well with the gold option, I'm in agreement with Jane's reasoning. I loved SM for what it was, a private-based site with little need on my end to troll the net for traffic. It really feels as though it has become a site that takes more of our money to compete with token sites. I don't like people getting off in my free chat, and I definitely don't like the thought of minors watching me. I think I tried the club comparison because it's the easiest with my background- the clubs that "allow" more are good for *some* performers, but it's the changing how it's run which is where the problems began.
I do well with the tip vibe, so I didn't mean for it to sound like I don't like the option, I just think I should be getting more than 35 cents for every single dollar customers act like is overpriced to see my nude body parts or fake a moan when it feels like my cell phone is vibrating my crotch.
As an aside, I've been informed by my regulars they can only find my profile after they've favorited me. I still have no idea how I'm receiving new traffic since my profile is unsearchable. Sometimes I don't know how I manage to stay afloat on the site, but I'm grateful when it does.
I understand that you do not understand my point or don't agree with my point and Im ok with that. I just don't think top models get a brick wall for an answer when they ask about glitches, traffic and placement. The idea of us being treated differently is not new around here on the forum. Im trying to figure out why 5-8 people exit the room at once, why they don't talk, why they say I was not around when I was and so on. Why Liz did not reply to me in 1 week after sending her "proof of glitch". Some models say they stopped trying to figure these things out but I can't stop.
You can prove this theory if you like. Just become a top model and see if its true!
Also if your logging in 5 to 8 hours a day and making the site thousands and thousands of dollars a week plus driving in traffic that spends on you and other girls then its really no surprise that the company might give you a direct line to their support staff in case you need it.
Plus if your a top model you dont need traffic driven to you just being on top means your going to have tons of traffic passing through every time your on.
There is certainly a conspiracy here. Its SM's conspiracy to make more money! No Theory is needed, its just makes good business sense.
But like I said if you want the proof then become a top model and you will know for certain.
I wish to answer on this too (too tired last evening to do it): i see both points of view and i agree with both, like any other cam site SM will do what is best for THEM business wise, i too had questions i could not let go but i came to understand it is what it is.
Technically u can say 'the secret' could be the good server/ bad server theory, hard to prove it but i know it's real and makes sense, the more money u make the better server u get assigned to when u sign in so u get the traffic and good spenders, the higher u are in the listings the better exposure u get automatically, the lower u are listed the less traffic u get and u left with 'bread crumbs'.
At this point in my life i am content even with 'bread crumbs' because i tried for soo long to reach the top but it only hurt me emotionally and then physically till i broke.
Since i am not willing or able to do what others do to reach the top (starting from looks to health state, language abilities & show type) i just do what i can giving the circumstances, i learned the hard way what it means to go over ur limits trying to be successful, i regret nothing here, i did what i had to do, this year i had to slow down to preserve my sanity and health, it helps that i am not the only one making income in the house anymore.
Best of luck everyone!
imelly21
11-05-2017, 07:50 AM
Hey KatM, thank you for replying. Its reassuring to see at least someone else sees my point. Im almost sure others see it too but just dont bother posting about it.
I wanted to add , for example, about 10 days ago or so I emailed Liz with a glitch and the proof that it was a glitch . I got no reply. No comment. No advice. How crappy does that make me feel?
The glitch was this: during a gold show countdown, ( while spying on myself with my member account, just to check that everything is smooth), I get the msg " Model is in private show". Lots of the people who did not tip suddenly leave ( why would they stay, right!?). I return with my member account and yes the gold show countdown was still running. But I know better and I came back. The other guys? Nope. So why is there no reply from Liz. 90% of my potential traffic vanished. So to answer someone here : no,they did not leave because " it just happened" or "they just decided to". Sometimes I get lucky and I get 20 people or so in the room( after I work my ass off to fill up the room) .
so when you are left with 3 people, in a matter of 1/2 second, you start to wonder.. WTF
SuperPookie
11-05-2017, 08:57 AM
^^ I get guys repeatedly tell me how busy I've been because it shows I'm always in private, then the opposite"how come you're never on?" I've had people check and yes it does show me offline or in a show. I've also been told that they've tried to click on my room and been redirected to a more popular models room. There's a 100% favoritism going on and no amount of effort by me can fix that
ChrissyAnn
11-05-2017, 09:28 AM
Anyone else having problems with their sound using smbroadcaster? I keep losing my sound and then I have to close the broadcaster and reopen it to fix my sound problem. I have to do this several times a day!! Any else having this problem?
Yes I have had the same thing with my sound being out of sink buy 1 sec LOOKED like a bad Japanese movie LMAO...
Genoveve
11-05-2017, 11:18 AM
Technically u can say 'the secret' could be the good server/ bad server theory, hard to prove it but i know it's real and makes sense, the more money u make the better server u get assigned to when u sign in so u get the traffic and good spenders, the higher u are in the listings the better exposure u get automatically, the lower u are listed the less traffic u get and u left with 'bread crumbs'.
So you KNOW it's real, without being able to prove it? That's......interesting.
You guys do know that everyone can't be in the top 2 rows, right? You do realize that that would be impossible, right? You guys act like not being on the very top of the page is bizarre and is something that shouldn't be happening to anyone.
Also you act like top row chicks never have issues; I have a friend who's almost always on the top row and she has shitty days and glitches just like everyone else. She showed me the other day a top model who was on twitter showing how badly her feed was glitching and talking about how it took her 5 hours to make what she normally makes in 2. I was just telling her about how the last 2 weeks have completely sucked for me and how I was on row 2 for most of it. Two Fridays ago I had a night where I made over $500 and the site was glitching for me nonstop the entire time---which according to your theory wouldn't make much sense since the only reason I'd be having such a busy night is because I was 'put on the good server.'
I just don't understand why---if you honestly believe that the only reason you aren't making money is because the site has a conspiracy against you and is purposely preventing you from making money---you would continue to stay and work there?
^^^ Not going to argue with u on this, it's not about me here, i said 'the secret' COULD be the server theory & is hard to near impossible to prove, many things exist in this world that are impossible or hard to prove, does not mean they not real.
People just get the symptoms, they dont know the cause and they wonder, they experience and see things happening, it's human nature to wonder 'what is going on?'.
I am not the only one talking about these things & i do work on SM for 7 years now cause i love the site despite all issues & still make money otherwise i wont be there, right?
I said nothing like the site is preventing me to make money, ur enthusiasm defending the site is the same like me telling about the server theory, i cant prove my point but u cant either, can u prove the theory is false?!
You have ur example(s), i & other people have ours and the truth is somewhere in the middle i guess.
Only SM knows for real how things really are. All the best!
Genoveve
11-05-2017, 06:07 PM
People just get the symptoms, they dont know the cause and they wonder, they experience and see things happening, it's human nature to wonder 'what is going on?'.
The 'symptoms' that I see girls complaining about over and over again on here 9 times out of 10 have completely technologically logical explanations to me, and that's because a lot of times they're things that have happened to me that I learned how to fix. And if anyone wants to know why I don't say anything---I actually have plenty of times but now I very purposely don't bother because chicks for some reason would rather believe that their issues are completely out of their control.
I am not the only one talking about these things & i do work on SM for 7 years now cause i love the site despite all issues & still make money otherwise i wont be there, right?
Then since you still make money and love the site, you would think you wouldn't complain so much about getting shittier traffic because you've been deliberately put on a 'bad server' and only making "breadcrumbs" ??? Something I see so often on here is where girls will complain and complain and complain about how shitty and unfair the site is, but the second you suggest they go elsewhere or do something else for work they get really defensive and talk about how SM is still their best site and they still make money. ............Which is it?
can u prove the theory is false?!
I wasn't proposing a theory, I was questioning yours. If you mean you want me to prove to you that there are no 'good' and 'bad servers', I'll just do what you did here which is answer by questioning the nature of reality:
is hard to near impossible to prove, many things exist in this world that are impossible or hard to prove, does not mean they not real.
SoloDesire
11-05-2017, 06:12 PM
I said nothing like the site is preventing me to make money, ur enthusiasm defending the site is the same like me telling about the server theory, i cant prove my point but u cant either, can u prove the theory is false?!
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim, not the person who doesn't believe it to be true. Look up Occam's Razor. I'm sorry, but this is just a ridiculous statement.
AuroraJade
11-06-2017, 05:23 AM
I understand that you do not understand my point or don't agree with my point and Im ok with that. I just don't think top models get a brick wall for an answer when they ask about glitches, traffic and placement. The idea of us being treated differently is not new around here on the forum. Im trying to figure out why 5-8 people exit the room at once, why they don't talk, why they say I was not around when I was and so on. Why Liz did not reply to me in 1 week after sending her "proof of glitch". Some models say they stopped trying to figure these things out but I can't stop.
Seriously?
Did you know one of the TOP models started the whole #smglitch thing and exposed the glitches on Twitter?
If you hate it so much, what is stopping you from going to a different site? In every job certain people are treated differently. Thats business. It sucks but it is that way. If you choose to make a living online, and especially live streaming, glitches are a part of it.
These conspiracies are getting so ridiculous. Seriously. Stop.
Blovely
11-06-2017, 07:55 AM
Although I feel like there should be a point of change if you aren't liking things can we not forget that this is the SM vent, complain, discuss site issues thread. There's no need to attack others for their point of view. So ummm yeah.... that is all, I'm going to see my way out.
DeepThoughts
11-06-2017, 08:20 AM
^^ Agree'd its getting kind of personal in here. Im all with those who are supporting SM cause I support SM but I do like that we have a place to vent. Sometimes that is only human and I get especially venty like once a month so I like having a place to go and bitch it out as well.
Wanna have my cake and eat it too!
ShadyPinesMa
11-06-2017, 10:16 AM
It's kind of insulting and discredits all of the hard work top models put in to get where they are though, by saying the site put them there or somehow makes things easier for them. I busted my ass to gain my placement and I go through the same bullshit everyone else does, same glitches, same moron freeloaders, all of it. If there's a "good server" I'm sure as shit not on it and I'm in the top 1st or 2nd row. I've had bizarre RTT issues on and off for weeks that aren't stemming from my end.
There's a lot of shit SM doesn't get right, but this isn't one of the things they're being a dick about, and believe me I have no problem opening my mouth about the dumb calls they make on things.
DeepThoughts
11-06-2017, 10:51 AM
yep I find it disheartening cause I like to share advice and tips and my own experiences to help others get ahead only to be told that somehow SM has some giant candy red button they can press to send all the paying clients to their Fav webcam models.
I am a pornstar with my own client base but that didnt instantly make me a successful camgirl. I have been doing this cam thing for 12 or 13 years and only in the last 6 I have been a top model. its fucking hard to be a top model. SM didnt press the button for me!
Also I do know many of them personally and I asked if the button exists. They claim it doesnt and I tend to believe them. ;)
pixiepower329
11-06-2017, 11:07 AM
Being on the first page doesn't auto-magically make one a "successful model" either. I have killer tech, killer ratings-- so I'm always in the middle of the front page, sometimes as high as row 4 or 5... but my average hourly on SM is still just around $22/hr. I'm older, chubby, and don't have a fantabulous hustle in public chat. I have to REALLY put in the hours to make decent money on SM. And even then, my idea of decent money is way lower than many who enjoy front page placement.
It is what it is.
imelly21
11-06-2017, 12:00 PM
It's kind of insulting and discredits all of the hard work top models put in to get where they are though, by saying the site put them there or somehow makes things easier for them. .
Just curious who said that. I think I missed it.
imelly21
11-06-2017, 12:02 PM
Seriously?
Did you know one of the TOP models started the whole #smglitch thing and exposed the glitches on Twitter?
If you hate it so much, what is stopping you from going to a different site?.
Yes I know that. Also telling someone who complains that they should pack and leave is really not helping.
Genoveve
11-06-2017, 12:28 PM
It's kind of insulting and discredits all of the hard work top models put in to get where they are though, by saying the site put them there or somehow makes things easier for them.
Just curious who said that. I think I missed it.
Well:
Conspiracy theory time! ( Just because I was thinking of the pics in that link Phat posted, from one of SM's parties. There are some models in those pics that we all know since they work alot ). So the theory is this: these models who went to SM party ( or parties) KNOW the secret. And the just won't tell us. I mean Im just thinking: if you go to one of such parties, you eventually meet a higher up in the company right? And Im sure the placement topic comes up maybe even the " stripper web forum" topic.
I just don't think top models get a brick wall for an answer when they ask about glitches, traffic and placement. The idea of us being treated differently is not new around here on the forum.
imelly21
11-06-2017, 01:22 PM
Genoveve hon, you and everyone else who jumped on me, need to relax a little.
I have alot respect for the top models and for ALL the models. I know how hard to be at the top and stay there. I have been there myself on and off.Seems that I was totally misunderstood. I appreciate you all and I know its hard work. I know top 2 rows means top 2 rows and not top 20.
I have not said nor intended to imply that top models do not work hard or they do not deserve their spots. Odd that some of the people who replied understood just that. Now that is interesting. My conspiracy theory should not have stepped on your toes this badly. Let me just say this : if I could have gone to one of those parties for sure I 'd know the secret. I'd not leave without knowing.
I still believe that tops models do not get a brick wall for an answer when they email Liz or whomever. ( I used to know someone who had Shawn's personal email......). - And no, I can't work towards being in the top anymore(like someone suggested.... I have other life priorities. I can't spend the time.
......... In the end It is my choice to believe what I believe (even if I have no proof!) just as it was everyone's choice to not agree with me. I said in the beginning that Im ok with others not agreeing with me. I did not personally attacked anyone but some of you felt almost personally attacked. I wonder why. Maybe It just proves my point. Or maybe Im wrong. My perception is my reality just as your perception is yours.
Genoveve
11-06-2017, 02:09 PM
Genoveve hon, you and everyone else who jumped on me, need to relax a little.
You literally asserted a theory that there's a secret to getting good placement and to receiving spending traffic involving favoritism and then tried to completely backtrack and say that you never said so. ?
Odd that some of the people who replied understood just that. Now that is interesting. My conspiracy theory should not have stepped on your toes this badly.
Here we go again. Now I'm being accused of being a conspirator because I think the theories you're posting don't make sense. I guess the conspiracy stuff is nothing more than a cop out in all situations.
Genoveve
11-06-2017, 02:14 PM
I did not personally attacked anyone but some of you felt almost personally attacked. I wonder why. Maybe It just proves my point. Or maybe Im wrong.
Possibly because you keep suggesting that a "secret" involving favoritism is the reason for why some girls make more money than others. If you can't grasp why that would be insulting to the money-makers who bust their asses I really don't know what to tell you.
imelly21
11-06-2017, 02:23 PM
I said that I believe top models don't get a brick wall for an answer when they email people at SM. That is what I said.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-06-2017, 02:30 PM
I could say hey guys leave the venting thread and let them vent. But then an hour later someone will pop onto another thread derailung it with conspiracy theories etc.
Last night I went through the other threads and declutterred it allowing people to get responses to their questions. Some people I noticed were new and went unanswered.
So its definitely not one sideded at this.
Its an open forum and people can see what you're posting therefore if one of you are posting things implying that you're being dealt a crappy hand other people can see that and will feel compelled to respond. Venting threads are not private groups. This reminds me of working in an office with cubicles and things were overheard all the time. And sometimes things got confrontational. Why? Because even when people thought they had a barrier, they didnt. I suppose in the same way that some people appear to get upset with other people in motivational threads? Its noticeable.
At this point its the same thing.
I want you all to be respectful of one another but also mindful that what you post is out in the open for everyone to read. That means people will show at times and may question your post or your theories.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-06-2017, 02:34 PM
Please be respectful in your discussion.
ShadyPinesMa
11-06-2017, 02:38 PM
I said that I believe top models don't get a brick wall for an answer when they email people at SM. That is what I said.
What reason would Streamate have to give a heads up to top models about glitches and not any of the others? What would that accomplish? My biggest complaint about SM is that they don't tell anyone what's going on, ever.
If top models knew what was going on, there wouldn't be so many of them in the smglitch tag.
imelly21
11-06-2017, 02:41 PM
Does anyone know why my traffic vanished all of a sudden and SM said I was doing a private show?- I busted my ass too to fill up the room.
Does anyone know why some models keep changing their model name(every 6 mo or so) to a slightly different one ? Does this have to do with the possible new model status on SM, therefore better exposure so placement does not tank?
Does anyone know what is more important for better placement : more time online or more earnings?
Does anyone know if doing FREE GOLD SHOWS keeps the placement higher (regardless of how much earnings are accumulated from them) since GOLD shows are considered paid time.
imelly21
11-06-2017, 02:54 PM
What reason would Streamate have to give a heads up to top models about glitches and not any of the others? What would that accomplish? My biggest complaint about SM is that they don't tell anyone what's going on, ever.
If top models knew what was going on, there wouldn't be so many of them in the smglitch tag.
Im not into twitter so I dont keep track of who says what on there. ( I do happen to know who started the #SMglitch though - a friend of mine pointed that out to me)
Genoveve
11-06-2017, 02:55 PM
Does anyone know why my traffic vanished all of a sudden and SM said I was doing a private show?- I busted my ass too to fill up the room.
Sounds like a glitch. Glitches happen to everyone, which has already been discussed.
Does anyone know why some models keep changing their model name(every 6 mo or so) to a slightly different one ? Does this have to do with the possible new model status on SM, therefore better exposure so placement does not tank?
Beats me, but deleting one's account to hopefully be able to receive more traffic by having new model status again is a tactic that I regularly see girls discussing using here on SW, and across all camsites.
Does anyone know what is more important for better placement : more time online or more earnings?
I would assume more earnings since 1.) that's what most(all?) camsites go by and it would be the most logical business-wise and 2.) because there's girls who sit online all day every day that don't end up with good placement.
Does anyone know if doing FREE GOLD SHOWS keeps the placement higher (regardless of how much earnings are accumulated from them) since GOLD shows are considered paid time.
Unfortunately I've never done a gold show so I have no clue how they work.
ShadyPinesMa
11-06-2017, 03:02 PM
Does anyone know why my traffic vanished all of a sudden and SM said I was doing a private show?- I busted my ass too to fill up the room.
Does anyone know why some models keep changing their model name(every 6 mo or so) to a slightly different one ? Does this have to do with the possible new model status on SM, therefore better exposure so placement does not tank?
Does anyone know what is more important for better placement : more time online or more earnings?
Does anyone know if doing FREE GOLD SHOWS keeps the placement higher (regardless of how much earnings are accumulated from them) since GOLD shows are considered paid time.
Earnings are more important for your placement than hours. If I recall correctly there are some milestone "boosts" at certain hourly marks but you don't have to have "excellent" or even "good" hours to be in the top rows. What you make per each hour has more weight.
0 gold shows won't help your ranking at all if you aren't making money into them, and they will only bring in brokeasses anyway. High paid percent helps, but it won't mean anything if you don't have high earnings to go with it.
Teddy_Bear
11-06-2017, 05:01 PM
I'm a so called 'top row model' meaning I am on the 1/2 row at all times and I neither earn (what I would consider) 'top model' money or have any idea what the 'secret' is I can assure you. I chalk up my placement to working 8 hours a day every day of my new model status last year and trying to get on every day since - the money is a consequence of spending so many hours of my life online but it's far from easy.
The only thing harder than striving to reach the top is staying there and it's not all rainbows and lemonade up there either.
OT: The chat keeps freezing where guys can see/hear/tip me but the chat log just stops scrolling making everything un-clickable and it's so annoying! It's doing it on every browser too.