View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
LottieLouise
02-06-2018, 03:16 PM
They're also there in free chat as long as you have it enabled to show them entering and leaving.
I've had a lot of customers leave and their name says (Reason: User Left), but then they return and say they had technical issues. I don't think those reasons are always exactly accurate or a good picture of what's going on.
KatyBoleyn
02-06-2018, 03:23 PM
I've had a lot of customers leave and their name says (Reason: User Left), but then they return and say they had technical issues. I don't think those reasons are always exactly accurate or a good picture of what's going on.
If their picture isn't syncing up, and they don't have the patience to wait out the black screen, then they may leave voluntarily. The system wouldn't know why they left necessarily.
LottieLouise
02-06-2018, 04:44 PM
Streamate has been unbearably slow the past week. I decided to get back on there since I've been doing mainly indie, and back in Sept/Oct I was averaging $40-50/hour consistently. Now I get maybe $10 and most hours with nothing. Makes me want to cry
DahliaSimone
02-06-2018, 04:55 PM
I thought yesterday was slow....boy was I wrong. At least yesterday was semi-steady....todays been....silence. And ins and outs. And the occasional dude who wants to talk about every subject under the sun until I mention the word 'private'. Haven't made shit (waaaaaaay below minimum wage). Here's to hoping that tomorrows a better day.
Ginnyyy
02-07-2018, 08:23 AM
Well, I haven't logged in on SM since last month. Surely my ranking has dropped there, but I can t see anyway, since I started using geo block and I like it this way for now. Let's see how it goes. There are members, I see, but I also think I got on page 3 or so :))
Could be 4th page too :))
kittykrane
02-07-2018, 09:23 AM
HEADS UP! If you use the FMLE encoder and do gold shows, I suggest logging out as soon as you finish the gold show. Why? Because the FMLE is playing back the gold show when it's supposed to be showing you in free chat. Yeah,,,,talk about a glitch. That's a MAJOR one. I did report it to SM and they said to use the SM broadcaster instead, but sometimes the feed is even worse with that, which is why I like the encoder.
SuperPookie
02-07-2018, 12:31 PM
16 in 2 days on SM and part of that was a tip from a regular who just wanted to chat
imelly21
02-07-2018, 12:55 PM
16 in 2 days on SM and part of that was a tip from a regular who just wanted to chat
Oh My god hon. thats terrible:(( Im so sorry
Serena-Shields
02-07-2018, 02:29 PM
Is anyone else having rampant issues with the Broadcaster? Mine has, for the past week, been downgrading my quality like every ten minutes, then switching back, then going down, then going WAY down to the point that it's pixelated, then when I restart my stream it won't connect. I have no issues with Skype or CB but the minute I stream on SM, everything gets fucked up and my stream get ruined.
ChrissyAnn
02-07-2018, 02:55 PM
Is anyone else having rampant issues with the Broadcaster? Mine has, for the past week, been downgrading my quality like every ten minutes, then switching back, then going down, then going WAY down to the point that it's pixelated, then when I restart my stream it won't connect. I have no issues with Skype or CB but the minute I stream on SM, everything gets fucked up and my stream get ruined.
Yes I have had the same thing all others r fine but SM
Diamond Dust
02-07-2018, 06:19 PM
Is anyone else having rampant issues with the Broadcaster? Mine has, for the past week, been downgrading my quality like every ten minutes, then switching back, then going down, then going WAY down to the point that it's pixelated, then when I restart my stream it won't connect. I have no issues with Skype or CB but the minute I stream on SM, everything gets fucked up and my stream get ruined.
Yes, my FPS will randomly just drop and it keeps saying my CPU is at a really high percentage, sometimes even 99%. It pisses me off to no end. I'm on an i7 processor but I thought maybe it was just getting old and burned out (from camming on Streamate). I think they need to do a update with the Broadcaster and make it less taxing on the system. I'd use the Flash encoder but I have other different issues with that too.
Ari_star
02-08-2018, 01:34 AM
Yes, my FPS will randomly just drop and it keeps saying my CPU is at a really high percentage, sometimes even 99%. It pisses me off to no end. I'm on an i7 processor but I thought maybe it was just getting old and burned out (from camming on Streamate). I think they need to do a update with the Broadcaster and make it less taxing on the system. I'd use the Flash encoder but I have other different issues with that too.
I'm on i7 too and my system only 3 maybe 4 months old the best I can hope for this last week or 2 has been 26 fps running at 90% sometimes higher though as much as I'd love an update from them last one they did messed up for a lot of girls on here ...rock and a hard place
PennyJ
02-08-2018, 09:23 AM
d e a d -_-
imelly21
02-08-2018, 01:23 PM
Does" allow free chat" option set on "No" does anything good or bad for the placement? I just tried and all it seems to do ( "seems", cause I am not sure) is keeps out guest from viewing? the potential # of viewers decreased drastically. They never talk in the "guest chat" area , like they used to, if you girls remember. Regardless of any settings, they seem to be muted ( not be me)
EDIT: I just realized the " free chat" area is non-existent now. Thanks SM for saying something,!! (sarcasm)
Of course I am going crazy but I wonder if having no guests watching will improve stream quality.
Edit:
I used to have up to 80 potential views. Now with not allowing free chat users to view me, I have 5. I wonder if these are actual members watching. And that would the real # of members watching hahaha
kittykrane
02-09-2018, 09:12 AM
anyone noticing how tiny the guests cam is when doing C2C?? It won't expand to fit the full box when I try to. Not sure if it's just happening in chrome or other browsers too. Going to check FF.
kittykrane
02-09-2018, 09:27 AM
anyone noticing how tiny the guests cam is when doing C2C?? It won't expand to fit the full box when I try to. Not sure if it's just happening in chrome or other browsers too. Going to check FF.
It's ok in FF..just doing it in Chrome...weird. Usually chrome is better.
Marina Starr
02-09-2018, 09:33 AM
If bit rate is dropping it could be time for a new modem. I changed mine every 8-12 months.
1pandoradesire
02-09-2018, 02:37 PM
I had this issue with SM also... they took so much of the cpu that it was taxing on my computer, I put a fan on it, but am not sure i am willing to lose a perfectly fine computer to them.
Bananabunny
02-09-2018, 10:20 PM
I want to rage quit that website...In the first 3-4 days I was so happy with it. And now? I'm making barely anything on it, I have hella backpain ad I'm getting called names like "slut", "whore", "dumb bitch", "you look like a male", "fat", "your rates are the highest I have seen here" (with only 3,99??? Bitch I doubt so)
And the percents this website gets is also just wrong!! This is slavery. And I'm not making enough to make it worth it. I'm SO furious right now!!
kamiliam
02-10-2018, 05:10 AM
I want to rage quit that website...In the first 3-4 days I was so happy with it. And now? I'm making barely anything on it, I have hella backpain ad I'm getting called names like "slut", "whore", "dumb bitch", "you look like a male", "fat", "your rates are the highest I have seen here" (with only 3,99??? Bitch I doubt so)
And the percents this website gets is also just wrong!! This is slavery. And I'm not making enough to make it worth it. I'm SO furious right now!!
I would suggest raising your rates. Men on sm despite their whining treat women better when their rates are higher. Also shut them down with that talk unless you think they will spend and you are ok with it. It is a lot more niche on sm then other sites, I like that kind of talk as long as they spend. Those clients spend a lot when you work it and you still run the show. If you don't like it shut it down, it is your room babe!
DancesWithSloths
02-10-2018, 09:51 AM
I want to rage quit that website...In the first 3-4 days I was so happy with it. And now? I'm making barely anything on it, I have hella backpain ad I'm getting called names like "slut", "whore", "dumb bitch", "you look like a male", "fat", "your rates are the highest I have seen here" (with only 3,99??? Bitch I doubt so)
1. Raise your rates
2. Hang out in Classic Chat for a while - trolls don't usually bother when they don't think other people can read them being mean.
3. If you do get trolles in classic chat, just quietly block them - they're trying to get free domination out of you.
4. Raise your goddamn rates, child.
Marina Starr
02-10-2018, 11:53 AM
Not SM related but hoping someone can help. Skype kept telling me that it cannot use my webcam because it's being use by another application but nothing is using the webcam but Skype, LOL. How do I fix this?
Diamond Dust
02-10-2018, 04:11 PM
If bit rate is dropping it could be time for a new modem. I changed mine every 8-12 months.
The weird thing is my bitrate and round trip time are great so I don't know that my connection is the problem. It seems more like it's SMBroadcast itself wearing out my CPU just judging by how high the percentage gets when my frames per second start to eat shit. It really makes me mad because CPU, unlike RAM (which I have a lot of) is pretty much impossible to replace unless you really, really know what you're doing.
I had this issue with SM also... they took so much of the cpu that it was taxing on my computer, I put a fan on it, but am not sure i am willing to lose a perfectly fine computer to them.
Yeah I might have to look into getting a fan. I guess I figured the built-in fan should have been enough, but that goes to show how little I know about computers.
imelly21
02-10-2018, 04:26 PM
Not SM related but hoping someone can help. Skype kept telling me that it cannot use my webcam because it's being use by another application but nothing is using the webcam but Skype, LOL. How do I fix this?
Unplug webcam, restart pc. Plug webcam .Start skype with webcam . It should work.
Marina Starr
02-10-2018, 04:35 PM
SMB uses a lot of CPU. You should try OBS Studio, it's a lot easier on your computer.
The weird thing is my bitrate and round trip time are great so I don't know that my connection is the problem. It seems more like it's SMBroadcast itself wearing out my CPU just judging by how high the percentage gets when my frames per second start to eat shit. It really makes me mad because CPU, unlike RAM (which I have a lot of) is pretty much impossible to replace unless you really, really know what you're doing.
nicole88
02-11-2018, 12:39 AM
I haven't been on streamate in a while and logged on tonight. has the algorithm for placement changed? I see a lot of people on the top rows that Ive never seen before or that used to be on pages 2 or 3?
KatyBoleyn
02-11-2018, 07:25 AM
I haven't been on streamate in a while and logged on tonight. has the algorithm for placement changed? I see a lot of people on the top rows that Ive never seen before or that used to be on pages 2 or 3?
A few years back now the algorithm changed so it was less static. Every day 100's of new models start on SM, 100's of models quit, 100's decide to hustle hard and move up, and 100's take a vacation and come back later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc
DancesWithSloths
02-11-2018, 09:21 AM
The algorithm is also localised to where you live. The European top row and US top row are quite different, for example.
I'm quite often sitting pretty on the Euro top row just off the comparative strength of my equipment, even though I work SM as a back-up on quite a casual basis, while US top girls are pushed way down the rows.
Bananabunny
02-12-2018, 12:47 PM
1. Raise your rates
2. Hang out in Classic Chat for a while - trolls don't usually bother when they don't think other people can read them being mean.
3. If you do get trolles in classic chat, just quietly block them - they're trying to get free domination out of you.
4. Raise your goddamn rates, child.
I would suggest raising your rates. Men on sm despite their whining treat women better when their rates are higher. Also shut them down with that talk unless you think they will spend and you are ok with it. It is a lot more niche on sm then other sites, I like that kind of talk as long as they spend. Those clients spend a lot when you work it and you still run the show. If you don't like it shut it down, it is your room babe!
I had my rates on 4,99 and 4,49 for 2 weeks but made only 10-20 dollars each day until I gave up and went back to 3,99. Might as well give it a try again to go to 4,99! I'm never talking more than 2 sentences with these dudes then I ignore them especially if they ask dirty stuff, they are mostly useless.
I'm not sure if it's my wig being so fucking bad that it fucks up every single person who comes in my room or if there's another reason of why I don't seem to bank on that website. I'm not an expert on wigs but I got some tricks to look good in it.
Strangely the people calling me bad names are in freechat of classic chat, not in party chat. I mean, it's brutal!
I often get the words "are you trans?" or "No offence but you look like a man in a way" as well!! I'm not even looking like a trans or a man!! wtf
My mom just told me yesterday that apparently, these people calling me names are getting off by calling me things like "fat" "whore" etc. In a way, she's totally right! I never thought of it that way, wow.
Serena-Shields
02-12-2018, 03:21 PM
SMbroadcast has lost connection three times today, WHAT THE FUCK MAN. Constantly disconnecting, have to click 'start show' two-three times before it'll connect. I haven't had a stream on SM without issues for weeks and traffic is literally garbage, like what the fuck is going on with this place?? Is it just me? Is my Macbook literally just trash for streaming on SM because I have no issues anywhere else, including CB which I've heard is the hardest place to stream.
Edit- everyone keeps getting kicked out, saying it's freezing. I'm done, I can barely keep on schedule with my stream and I'm definitely not motivated to log in there if I can't even get a decent show- actually more like lose clients because they keep spending money only to get a frozen stream.
Battle Angel
02-12-2018, 09:35 PM
SMbroadcast has lost connection three times today, WHAT THE FUCK MAN. Constantly disconnecting, have to click 'start show' two-three times before it'll connect. I haven't had a stream on SM without issues for weeks and traffic is literally garbage, like what the fuck is going on with this place?? Is it just me? Is my Macbook literally just trash for streaming on SM because I have no issues anywhere else, including CB which I've heard is the hardest place to stream.
Edit- everyone keeps getting kicked out, saying it's freezing. I'm done, I can barely keep on schedule with my stream and I'm definitely not motivated to log in there if I can't even get a decent show- actually more like lose clients because they keep spending money only to get a frozen stream.
It's not just you. It's been awful these past few days. Tonight, I was on less than an hour, had four pvts and all of them disconnected after 2-5 mins when it was obvious to me they would have gone much longer if the site hadn't cut it short. I even upgraded my internet connection yesterday bc I thought it might be the problem (Saturday was driving me nuts), but now I'm streaming with 7M upload and an i7 quad-core processor, so I know it's not my setup. The guys come back to ask me what happened, so I know they didn't just leave. I can't stay on the site anymore without it losing connection every few minutes. It's infuriating. I sent Liz an email asking her what was happening and asking her for solutions. I'll post back her response.
DancesWithSloths
02-13-2018, 04:02 AM
My mom just told me yesterday that apparently, these people calling me names are getting off by calling me things like "fat" "whore" etc. In a way, she's totally right! I never thought of it that way, wow.
Your mom is right, sweetie. You're skinny, right? There's a subsection of trolls that love to try to set off ED episodes or even just insecurities in skinny or average-build girls.
I'm a BBW - literally obese - and I've literally had one "fat" insult since 2014, cos they know it's one of my selling points. "Fat" is a skinny-girl insult.
AuroraJade
02-13-2018, 05:54 AM
They will call you names for literally everything. It doesnt matter if you are slim, BBW, athletic, trans, cis, black or white. They will always find something and try to hurt you. I got called a 'dumb white bitch' and 'stupid European whore'. It does not matter how you look, who you are, they will call your names and try to hurt you.
Dont give a fuck. I know its hard but keep feeling self-confident because you are awesome the way you are. Just imagine those losers. Virgins sitting in their basement with Cheetos fingers typing insults to random girls on their computers. Laugh at them. Imagine what kind of person you are getting off hurting people? Ban them and focus on nice people in your room!
Girly_Girl
02-13-2018, 07:10 AM
Trolls also call girls name to try and get a reaction out of u. I just look at them and smile while I am blocking them. Never let them see you get mad or hurt!
SoloDesire
02-13-2018, 07:13 AM
Haven't even been on 4 minutes and I can already tell it's gonna be a day of me ignoring free chat to save my sanity.
DancesWithSloths
02-13-2018, 08:16 AM
Haven't even been on 4 minutes and I can already tell it's gonna be a day of me ignoring free chat to save my sanity.
Yeah, not gonna lie, this morning's crop of treasures really tested my sunny disposition. It's like somebody shook out a bag of idiots.
I didn't take screenshots, which is a shame, but there was a lot of stupid in that chat.
SoloDesire
02-13-2018, 08:34 AM
Yeah, not gonna lie, this morning's crop of treasures really tested my sunny disposition. It's like somebody shook out a bag of idiots.
I didn't take screenshots, which is a shame, but there was a lot of stupid in that chat.
Right?! And I've just gotten to this point where I refuse to keep saying the same shit to every freeloader. I've just started ignoring them when they just wanna shower me with compliments or beg for something in free chat. If they're gonna waste my time then I'll waste theirs. They can sit there and wait for a response from me as long as they'd like. I'm done entertaining freeloaders.
sweetandnaughty
02-13-2018, 08:47 PM
WTF is this sitt? I'm always at the bottom of page 1 and now on page 3?? How the fuck did that happen??? No bad reviews changed anything??? Fuck this!!! What is up with this placement huge shift all of a sudden??...damn it!
sweetandnaughty
02-13-2018, 10:30 PM
Fuck SM!! Nothing but disconnects in shows all nite long...the fuck is wrong?? This is so frustrating!!
kamiliam
02-13-2018, 10:46 PM
What I don't get is why my placement dropped after getting out of a hour long show? Was at my normal row when I got on.Like shouldn't that help? Been dead as hell for the last hour.
KatyBoleyn
02-13-2018, 11:13 PM
What I don't get is why my placement dropped after getting out of a hour long show? Was at my normal row when I got on.Like shouldn't that help? Been dead as hell for the last hour.
There's no direct correlation between earnings and placement. The models on the top rows aren't necessarily the highest earners on the page. Besides all the factors they show you that determine you placement (and these are important), the X factor behind it are your traffic conversions - in basic terms, new customers that sign up after staring at you for a few minutes. The more attention you can grab and maintain, the better the likelihood of getting a conversion. Ergo, the more "entertaining" you are, the better your placement. Even just a handful of new people signing up on SM that night is enough to reshuffle the deck.
Customers already loyal to you and/or other models (and have you either formally or stealth favorited) don't mean much to placement...they're already hooked on spending, so their actions don't factor.
anonamiss
02-14-2018, 12:44 AM
the X factor behind it are your traffic conversions - in basic terms, new customers that sign up after staring at you for a few minutes. The more attention you can grab and maintain, the better the likelihood of getting a conversion. Ergo, the more "entertaining" you are, the better your placement. Even just a handful of new people signing up on SM that night is enough to reshuffle the deck.
how does that work with geoblocked models? my understanding was that geoblocked models don't show up on the home page unless you're logged in with an account. so do geoblocked models not get any conversions, since customers wouldn't be able to see them until they sign up?
KatyBoleyn
02-14-2018, 01:08 AM
how does that work with geoblocked models? my understanding was that geoblocked models don't show up on the home page unless you're logged in with an account. so do geoblocked models not get any conversions, since customers wouldn't be able to see them until they sign up?
Likely, but that's not the only factor, just one of many. You also have the ratings, time spent online, camera quality, internet speed and stability, and popularity of the room, as well as your geographic location relative to the user. What we haven't seen is any direct correlation between income and placement. Geoblocking is a detriment to your placement, of course, but no necessarily a big one.
You have to think of it this way: Placement is not for your benefit or to make you more money. That is the indirect effect, but it is not the purpose. It would be silly to simply have a system that rewards the richest models with more money for no reason at all. Their contests are a bit misguided that way, but as a business model it would be dumb. You are placed on the page in such a way that, as best they can formulate, clients want to see, sign up for, and return to when they visit. If they're already there and spending money freely (i.e. by taking you private), Streamate and the affiliates have already done 90% of their job and so have you. If you're already being taken private for long periods of time (aka, banking your ass off), then placement isn't anything more than vanity and not something to be concerned about.
AuroraJade
02-14-2018, 02:21 AM
There's no direct correlation between earnings and placement. The models on the top rows aren't necessarily the highest earners on the page. Besides all the factors they show you that determine you placement (and these are important), the X factor behind it are your traffic conversions - in basic terms, new customers that sign up after staring at you for a few minutes. The more attention you can grab and maintain, the better the likelihood of getting a conversion. Ergo, the more "entertaining" you are, the better your placement. Even just a handful of new people signing up on SM that night is enough to reshuffle the deck.
Customers already loyal to you and/or other models (and have you either formally or stealth favorited) don't mean much to placement...they're already hooked on spending, so their actions don't factor.
That is so cool to hear! I am not a top earner by any means but I have relatively high placement. Guess I am a good converter then :D
kamiliam
02-14-2018, 02:24 AM
Likely, but that's not the only factor, just one of many. You also have the ratings, time spent online, camera quality, internet speed and stability, and popularity of the room, as well as your geographic location relative to the user. What we haven't seen is any direct correlation between income and placement. Geoblocking is a detriment to your placement, of course, but no necessarily a big one.
You have to think of it this way: Placement is not for your benefit or to make you more money. That is the indirect effect, but it is not the purpose. It would be silly to simply have a system that rewards the richest models with more money for no reason at all. Their contests are a bit misguided that way, but as a business model it would be dumb. You are placed on the page in such a way that, as best they can formulate, clients want to see, sign up for, and return to when they visit. If they're already there and spending money freely (i.e. by taking you private), Streamate and the affiliates have already done 90% of their job and so have you. If you're already being taken private for long periods of time (aka, banking your ass off), then placement isn't anything more than vanity and not something to be concerned about.
I do agree with all this. It is just disheartening to see yourself fall lower. I am admittedly a gfe/regular orientated performer and hate the gold show/ large room count style (just me not knocking anyone else!) and know I will only be top row when the stars align. I just know from my custie account that people are jumping around like crazy and it is kinda weird, again knowing the 20 million variables. My placement is based on my ratings/comp specs etc which are all top notch, I realize my advantage there. Top girls that I have spent money on are appearing way lower than normal. And when I am off normal, I get less people. Yes I can count on regs but I like new blood too. Just selfish venting but at least I can admit it lol
also to mention this is the logged in equation, after converting. I think that is what most models care about, but maybe we shouldn't
LadyLuv
02-14-2018, 09:47 AM
Hi. I am in GEO also. I was figuring out to stay there. I notice when I'm out of GEO. My placement is on the 4th row. I am a 5 star Performer. I am older, and my
I notice a lot of Studio models, and non, making models seems to get notice more than the Independent ones that completely, got an self contract from working at home.
I also want to mention, how you feel about this Potential Member feature. To be honest, I hate it.. It appears worst,brings out more freeloaders just with a card, peeking. I would luv if they charge them for peeking and we get money �� golds out of it, somehow. This feature created cheap men. I notice I stand or flash booty or tits for golds in freechat, the numbers of potential members increase.
They don't join gold shows, like they use to either.
I watch the top models struggle to get them to join.
It's really pity full.
5g for 5min.Now days is too much for them, unless your giving out videos, they aren't into pictures too much.
Contest for Valentines Day sucks.
Do you have any suggestions?
pixiepower329
02-14-2018, 11:28 AM
I've been on SM for a little over 3 years. I've always pinged "Excellent" on all of the categories. The highest I ever get placement wise is around row 7 or 8 on a slow day. With contest days-- I'm lucky to hang on to the bottom rung of the first page. and sometimes I slip to page 2 Its beyond frustrating. I normally work the weeknights when its slower and lower model count. These contests fuck that completely up and then I'm stuck online on slow days with even less traffic. I'll be lucky if I tap 50 bucks tonight.
hyori
02-14-2018, 01:57 PM
Placement has a lot to do with categories as well. If you're top in your category, you'll end up on the first page regardless of how much you're making or how shitty your equipment is. SM is great that way for niche models.
Bananabunny
02-14-2018, 07:55 PM
Your mom is right, sweetie. You're skinny, right? There's a subsection of trolls that love to try to set off ED episodes or even just insecurities in skinny or average-build girls.
I'm a BBW - literally obese - and I've literally had one "fat" insult since 2014, cos they know it's one of my selling points. "Fat" is a skinny-girl insult.
Actually I'm average in weight, definitely not skinny LOL but rather middle-thick after a meal I get a belly of a 4-5 months pregnant woman and I need to suck in all the time :((
Bananabunny
02-14-2018, 09:29 PM
I'm so furious right now, I think Streamate is more and more a garbage website. I'm sorry for those who tell me how great that website is but I don't see what you mean by that. I tried EVERYTHING so far. Even goldshows. But I'm getting asked to put them to 2-3 Gold so that people can send more afterwards. Lmao are you kidding me?! No they fucking won't LOL
Also the "traffic" is insane garbage. Holy shit no. For real this website makes me depressed more than freechat websites lately. I don't know if I'm seriously too ugly to get people to tip me and take pvt but nope that website is so fucking dead for me when I log in and I tried multiple times already as I'm VERY deperate for money.
Also when I see the amount of women putting their vibrators in their panties or on top of it or rub through their panties in freechat, it's no wonder I'm so broke over there!!