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imelly21
02-15-2018, 02:18 PM
New glitch in town. Hooray!!4949049491
Member sees 1 hour remaining when there is 1 min remaining untill gold show cancels.
If they all see that ( or some or most) no wonder they dont bother to join.

anonamiss
02-15-2018, 02:46 PM
New glitch in town. Hooray!!4949049491
Member sees 1 hour remaining when there is 1 min remaining untill gold show cancels.
If they all see that ( or some or most) no wonder they dont bother to join.

oh wow, that's really interesting... i was browsing models yesterday (not logged in) and i saw at least two girls who had an hour left on their GS countdowns. i thought it was weird that they would have such a lengthy countdown for a modest goal like $100. but now i see it was probably this glitch.

i also couldn't get a gold show going the last time i worked (tuesday night; i think i attempted 3 countdowns), and i wonder if this glitch was related.

anonamiss
02-15-2018, 02:49 PM
to add to the glitches:

i reported a glitch to tech support from my tuesday night shift, where it showed that i was in a private show when i wasn't. a bunch of people simultaneously left my free chat, and i heard the "ding" for a private show, but there was no one there. i checked from a separate browser, and the "my show has started / this model is performing live" window was up.

i had to stop my show and log back on to fix it. it happened multiple times that night, and was really frustrating considering i never actually got a real show that night (in about 3 hours online).

Erika_Xstacy
02-16-2018, 01:09 AM
the broadcaster has been prompting me to re-calibrate last night and today. No biggie the first time. OK, a second time. A third time is charm. Nope.
I uninstalled and reinstalled with no more issues

This week I was having packet loss but my isp was able to fix that.

coffeecakesss
02-16-2018, 04:55 AM
$5 in 1 hour... gold tips only... also camera going off and on with smbroadcaster... blurry picture the whole time... my whale came in, said it was blurry and left... I’m annoyed

Serena-Shields
02-16-2018, 05:03 PM
Another day of frozen streams and downgrading video quality. Does SM want models to make money or no?

yeah I'm fucking done. I'm not making money on this shit hole site anymore and I can't think of anything to do to make my stream stop glitching. It's getting to the point where I have to force myself to log in and try to engage with viewers that are going to leave in two minutes because the stream is frozen or pixelated.

Bananabunny
02-17-2018, 04:35 PM
Another day of frozen streams and downgrading video quality. Does SM want models to make money or no?

yeah I'm fucking done. I'm not making money on this shit hole site anymore and I can't think of anything to do to make my stream stop glitching. It's getting to the point where I have to force myself to log in and try to engage with viewers that are going to leave in two minutes because the stream is frozen or pixelated.


It's strange. People told me such positive things about this website and I was so optimistic that I would bank better than on Cb. But the exact opposide is the case for me. Camming on Streamate exhausts me to the point where I log off depressed every time and have a hard time getting the full motivation back. The itchy wig does not help a lot as well. And the glitches. Holy shit they are the WORST. I already don't get many privates, but the glitches make my privates even worse. I think I will seriously stop using the encoder. Either way, I'm not having a lot of traffic everytime I log in so using HD only might be better for now. I noticed how I got more money when I was HD in the beginning compared to when I used the Encoder. I don't think that's normal!

Today I will do an experiment and try to cam without the encoder but in HD like in the beginning. Let's see if I REALLY get better shows this way!

LottieLouise
02-17-2018, 04:52 PM
I have question about Gold prices on SM. Do some guys get a discount? I got two gold tips within a few minutes. One was for $3 for an ass flash and when I look at my earnings statement I made $1.05 my cut. Then I got one for $5 for a tit flash, BUT when I look at my earnings statement it says $3.74 Gold and I earned $1.31 my cut! Why did it show up as $5 in my show, but $3.74 in my earnings statement? I noticed this goes back a few days on my statements where a $3 or $5 gold charge end up as less.

kamiliam
02-17-2018, 05:08 PM
I have question about Gold prices on SM. Do some guys get a discount? I got two gold tips within a few minutes. One was for $3 for an ass flash and when I look at my earnings statement I made $1.05 my cut. Then I got one for $5 for a tit flash, BUT when I look at my earnings statement it says $3.74 Gold and I earned $1.31 my cut! Why did it show up as $5 in my show, but $3.74 in my earnings statement? I noticed this goes back a few days on my statements where a $3 or $5 gold charge end up as less.

They could be using their sm rewards or they are from Canada.

LottieLouise
02-17-2018, 05:15 PM
They could be using their sm rewards or they are from Canada.

So both of those things fuck me over with no way to tell until after? I wish it would show me in my show the actual amount people pay.

KatyBoleyn
02-17-2018, 06:04 PM
So both of those things fuck me over with no way to tell until after? I wish it would show me in my show the actual amount people pay.

"Gold" is different for all different markets depending on where they are from. If they're from the UK, you do pretty well. It all balances out.

Actual privates and exclusives means that the per-minute will be charged at a fair market rate, which means you'll get exactly the amount you post.

LottieLouise
02-17-2018, 06:07 PM
"Gold" is different for all different markets depending on where they are from. If they're from the UK, you do pretty well. It all balances out.

Actual privates and exclusives means that the per-minute will be charged at a fair market rate, which means you'll get exactly the amount you post.

I feel really stupid for not figuring this out earlier. It's really weird they convert one and not the other. SM is pretty good at having arbitrary rules though :p

anonamiss
02-17-2018, 08:04 PM
"Gold" is different for all different markets depending on where they are from. If they're from the UK, you do pretty well. It all balances out.

Actual privates and exclusives means that the per-minute will be charged at a fair market rate, which means you'll get exactly the amount you post.

i wish they could do that somehow for tips. i get way more canadians than people from the UK, so i hate finding out after the fact that i flashed my tits or whatever for less money than i was expecting.

and i suppose i could check my earnings page after every tip, but even if i did notice that the person had a weaker currency, it would feel kinda rude/awkward to be like "oh wait you're from canada? sorry, that'll be another two dollars..."

i could see them getting all pissy about it, like "but you said 5 gold! lying whore!" ugh, lol.

caramelcraze
02-18-2018, 10:47 AM
c2c isn't functioning properly. Had 3 guys in a 30 minute span have the exact same issue. Their end quits streaming and when they try to initiate c2c again, it black screens. when they do it a third time, it freezes on their end apparently.

Redcandy
02-18-2018, 10:59 AM
Since most of east coast and Midwest is snowed in I thought Sunday would be steady! Boy was I wrong.. Took 2 hrs to make $48 on the 3rd row.. Geezzzz! Come on East coast! Midwest! Pacific! Somebody.. Andybody!

AuroraJade
02-18-2018, 12:40 PM
I have question about Gold prices on SM. Do some guys get a discount? I got two gold tips within a few minutes. One was for $3 for an ass flash and when I look at my earnings statement I made $1.05 my cut. Then I got one for $5 for a tit flash, BUT when I look at my earnings statement it says $3.74 Gold and I earned $1.31 my cut! Why did it show up as $5 in my show, but $3.74 in my earnings statement? I noticed this goes back a few days on my statements where a $3 or $5 gold charge end up as less.

SM uses the same symbol for USD, CAD (Canadian) and Australian (AUD). The $ sign. They also use the pound sign (cant find that on my Mac keyboard), R$ (Real) , the Euro sign and some sort of weird F which is the Swiss franc. The problem is those $$$ symbols: they can be a lot more or less than the value of a dollar.

Marina Starr
02-19-2018, 03:43 PM
What exactly does it mean when the guys log off because of 'user connection issue'?

PixiieGirl
02-19-2018, 03:54 PM
Question I had a guy leave cause “user must contact support”
What does that mean?

Marina Starr
02-19-2018, 03:56 PM
It means he has reached his spending limit.

Question I had a guy leave cause “user must contact support”
What does that mean?

PixiieGirl
02-19-2018, 04:01 PM
It means he has reached his spending limit.
Damn

Thanks :)

JoyKitten
02-19-2018, 06:36 PM
Since most of east coast and Midwest is snowed in I thought Sunday would be steady! Boy was I wrong.. Took 2 hrs to make $48 on the 3rd row.. Geezzzz! Come on East coast! Midwest! Pacific! Somebody.. Andybody!

Between Olympics running without end, guys paying back Christmas bills & looming tax filing, it's a tough time of year to find deep pocket spending (or, much spending at all). *sigh*

Also, if the guys are trapped inside due to bad weather, so are their wives & kids..... which doesn't make it easy for rubbing one out with us. Hee-hee!

As a helpful FYI, we've got March Madness basketball ahead of us for the weekends & evenings. So keep that in mind for finding good times to work in March =p

JoyKitten
02-19-2018, 07:04 PM
There's no direct correlation between earnings and placement. The models on the top rows aren't necessarily the highest earners on the page. Besides all the factors they show you that determine you placement (and these are important), the X factor behind it are your traffic conversions - in basic terms, new customers that sign up after staring at you for a few minutes. The more attention you can grab and maintain, the better the likelihood of getting a conversion. Ergo, the more "entertaining" you are, the better your placement. Even just a handful of new people signing up on SM that night is enough to reshuffle the deck.

Customers already loyal to you and/or other models (and have you either formally or stealth favorited) don't mean much to placement...they're already hooked on spending, so their actions don't factor.

From what I've heard & seen, Streamate seems to have very recently changed their programing of the order of our placement. Now they're putting models in an order for each custies 'clicking preference' of what their history shows they like.

It use to be that every time I sign-ed in as a member, the line-up of models was pretty predictable. The most popular & productive models were lined-up on the 1st line, & those less so down the page.

In the past week everything changed. All of a sudden the models showing-up on line #1 and down the page more in order of age or 'type'. From what I've been told and gathered while examining the site, my membership account is populated with models who are 30-50yo range. And that seems to be because when I've looked around the site I've been clicking on 'mature' models.

So it seems they've fine-tuned a way to help custies to find a model who 'floats their boat'. If that's so, this new type of format should work in our favor, helping all of us be seen by the guys who like what we have to offer (within what we've written in our profile info).

But for me, as a model, I find it really disturbing because I can't really get a bead on my model ranking, how I'm doing in placement.

My snooping around did lead to finding a glitch, where currently a customer's view of offline models is totally messed up! The glitch is going to be fixed this week, but for the time being there nothing but obscure non-working models showing up in the 'offline' areas of the site (Example: check BBW's, the 1st model listed isn't even working on the site anymore.) And because I like the old line-up better, I'm hoping that when they fix the offline models glitch, maybe the line-up of online models will fall back into place too. But I'm doubtful.

MistressX
02-19-2018, 07:18 PM
Dang no traffic at all. Im way down on the bottom of page 1 now when i used to be up closer to the top. Nothing but ins and outs today including my regulars who arent even saying a word. No one has the decency to tell me if my feed is messed up. Oh well

ep2002
02-20-2018, 03:27 AM
"Gold" is different for all different markets depending on where they are from. If they're from the UK, you do pretty well. It all balances out.

Actual privates and exclusives means that the per-minute will be charged at a fair market rate, which means you'll get exactly the amount you post.

This really makes no logical sense to me.

I'm positive that they are charged USD on their cc, so why aren't we getting paid in USD?

That's how merchant accounts work. You can only bill in one currency & I am POSITIVE that SM doesn't charge CNDs in CND, Brits in pounds, & people in EU in EUR.

For that reason I believe we are getting ripped off by SM.

ep2002
02-20-2018, 03:34 AM
Grrr, I can't cam today.

I JUST got an external video card put in & some more memory & on OBS all I'm getting is dropped frames. yellow, orange & red :(

I've rebooted, unplugged my modem, cleared my cookies, NOTHING is helping :(

I thought maybe it's the video card, but I see that since the 16th people have had issues with the stream.

I'm VERY pissed right now <sigh>

Also I haven't made even the min. $100 to get paid every week. That's 3 weeks in a row now :(

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 05:36 AM
I have question about Gold prices on SM. Do some guys get a discount? I got two gold tips within a few minutes. One was for $3 for an ass flash and when I look at my earnings statement I made $1.05 my cut. Then I got one for $5 for a tit flash, BUT when I look at my earnings statement it says $3.74 Gold and I earned $1.31 my cut! Why did it show up as $5 in my show, but $3.74 in my earnings statement? I noticed this goes back a few days on my statements where a $3 or $5 gold charge end up as less.




and i suppose i could check my earnings page after every tip, but even if i did notice that the person had a weaker currency, it would feel kinda rude/awkward to be like "oh wait you're from canada? sorry, that'll be another two dollars..."

i could see them getting all pissy about it, like "but you said 5 gold! lying whore!" ugh, lol.


SM uses the same symbol for USD, CAD (Canadian) and Australian (AUD). The $ sign. They also use the pound sign (cant find that on my Mac keyboard), R$ (Real) , the Euro sign and some sort of weird F which is the Swiss franc. The problem is those $$$ symbols: they can be a lot more or less than the value of a dollar.

Okay first of all 35% of $3 USD is $1.05 your cut so there was nothing happening here. Secondly Check your Earnings page if to be sure that a client is tipping you in Dollars if you want to be exact! Never ever tell a client that its "3 dollars" always say its "3 GOLD" That way if they tip you in AUS or CAN you can tell them they were short. Dont feel badly about doing this they get a really good exchange rate and I do it all day long no one has ever bitched at me so dont be afraid to ask what your worth! Your only asking for 3 bucks for an ass flash! Anyone should be able to afford that!

And to Aurora, this is just me being picky. but SM doesnt use the same symbol IT is the same symbol. Your right is does get tricky though, especially during gold shows because it also shows our Goals in the currency the view is watching in so that can cause some confusion. Again its always best to say "GOLD" not "Dollars" Because one gold is one USD!

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 05:46 AM
This really makes no logical sense to me.

I'm positive that they are charged USD on their cc, so why aren't we getting paid in USD?

That's how merchant accounts work. You can only bill in one currency & I am POSITIVE that SM doesn't charge CNDs in CND, Brits in pounds, & people in EU in EUR.

For that reason I believe we are getting ripped off by SM.

As for this! The client is not charged in USD on their card. If they Pay in another currency then by law they must be charged in that currency!!! Stop assuming SM is ripping you off!! This is so ridiculous and its slander so you should be careful what you say.

I can tell you for a fact, because Im Canadian, getting paid in American Dollars and I live in Europe that the conversion of other currencies to American Dollars that SM give the client is a better rate then your bank will give you on any given day. To be 100% clear this means that SM is, in fact, LOSING money on all or most of these transactions.

Im gonna assume that by merchant account you mean payment processor. I have two of them and clients are billed in the currency they choose. This is the law. By law you must ask the client if they prefer to be charged in their own currency or the currency of the the country they are being billed in! Its true for all retail, restaurants and commercial operations!

I get a bit angry when I see people throwing shade at SM when they have no idea what the facts are. Venting, Complaining and Site issues are great but be careful not to cross the line into speculations and slander!

ep2002
02-20-2018, 07:39 AM
As for this! The client is not charged in USD on their card. If they Pay in another currency then by law they must be charged in that currency!!! Stop assuming SM is ripping you off!! This is so ridiculous and its slander so you should be careful what you say.

I can tell you for a fact, because Im Canadian, getting paid in American Dollars and I live in Europe that the conversion of other currencies to American Dollars that SM give the client is a better rate then your bank will give you on any given day. To be 100% clear this means that SM is, in fact, LOSING money on all or most of these transactions.

Im gonna assume that by merchant account you mean payment processor. I have two of them and clients are billed in the currency they choose. This is the law. By law you must ask the client if they prefer to be charged in their own currency or the currency of the the country they are being billed in! Its true for all retail, restaurants and commercial operations!

I get a bit angry when I see people throwing shade at SM when they have no idea what the facts are. Venting, Complaining and Site issues are great but be careful not to cross the line into speculations and slander!

Please don't talk down to me like that. I don't appreciate it one bit.

The customers are charged in USD & then their BANK converts it to their currency via their exchange rate.

The point is they ARE charged in USD so we should be getting the same amount no mater WHICH country the person lives in.

When I sell something from my site I get the SAME amount in USD no mather where my client lives in the world. That's how it works with merchant accounts. Now yes, SM is charged extra fees b/c the client is in a different country so their processor charges more, so if that is WHY they are taking the money from us than they should be clear about that, but WE shouldn't have to pay their merchant account fees. We are already giving them a HUGE cut of what we earn.

And what YOU get paid as a model has nothing to do with what the cusomter is charged. We are talking 2 different things here, so if you are getting a great exchange rate, good for you, but again, that has NOTHING to do with what the OP was talking about, nor what I'm talking about.

hyori
02-20-2018, 07:58 AM
^^ ep2002 is right. I used to bitch about that exact thing as well.

ep2002
02-20-2018, 08:06 AM
^^ ep2002 is right. I used to bitch about that exact thing as well.

At least one person understands what I'm saying, so thank you :)

And there is no way to see what amount we get until 15-20 minutes later, as GS amounts take that long to show up.

So it's not like I can just ask them for more & then go into a whole LONG explanation why they have to pay more than Americans.

It's just unprofessional & of course, will get him pissed off & he'll no longer want to see me. We just lose the money.

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 08:10 AM
Okay my apologies because I was not in complete understanding of what you were saying before. I understand now but I believe its fair practice to charge them in USD so they (we) absorb the fee. But, it really only applies to tips because if a client enters pay per min he is charged the equivalent to the USD in his currency, also true for gold shows, so we are making the full amount. Its only when a client in CAD or AUD tips that we can lose on the fee and for that you can just be diligent and check your earnings page quickly to see if he has paid the full amount.

This is hardly a ripoff but I suppose that they could add CAD or AUS when a client tips in so you know but I feel like its just splitting hairs.

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 08:13 AM
At least one person understands what I'm saying, so thank you :)

And there is no way to see what amount we get until 15-20 minutes later, as GS amounts take that long to show up.

So it's not like I can just ask them for more & then go into a whole LONG explanation why they have to pay more than Americans.

It's just unprofessional & of course, will get him pissed off & he'll no longer want to see me. We just lose the money.

But if they dont tip in enough then they cannot see the show. So you can see it in the high tipper box because it always works out to your asking price and change. Plus they dont see the amount in USD they see it in their own currency.

Am I just really confused here??

ep2002
02-20-2018, 08:46 AM
But if they dont tip in enough then they cannot see the show. So you can see it in the high tipper box because it always works out to your asking price and change. Plus they dont see the amount in USD they see it in their own currency.

Am I just really confused here??

Tips & paying for a GS are 2 different things, so yes, I think you are confused.

Tips come thru in real time, meaning right away. GS payments do not. They take about 10-20 minutes to show up AFTER you finish the actual show.

In public you can't show anything on cam other than breasts, so most of us (at least me) only do these shows via GSs.

If they just happen to tip me without me asking & they want to see breasts then I'll do it, but I don't like doing it b/c then all the FLs get a FREE show which IMO isn't right.

So I'm not sure how you are doing it b/c you said you are doing ass shows & you aren't allowed to do that unless it's with panties on. If you are showing your bare ass, it has to be behind a GS.

Considering they've already paid for the money via their credit card & it's in their account (I think) when they tip 3 or 5 gold, that comes thru to the site AS 3 or 5 gold. For that reason we should see the amount in USD, but obviously we aren't if they are in AUS, Canada, the UK, EU, etc., so again, that to me is a rip off for the reasons I mentioned above.

When they tip just b/c they are being nice, it would be RUDE to ask for more money just b/c we don't get the full amount, but that's not the situation here. This is us working a SHOW, & in that case we should be ALL getting USD since they are charged in USD.

I hope you understand now.

AuroraJade
02-20-2018, 09:10 AM
If people wanna talk about SM ripping models off talk about them still having Firstchoice Pay as their cheapest option for models outside the USA and the MASSIVE fees they have to eat from your hard earned money.

I see hundreds of dollars disappear each week and they always take at least 5 cents more than the going exchange rate at the moment.

Just us losing out of lots of money because SM is too cheap/lazy to do a proper bank/wire transfer.

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 09:14 AM
Nope Im way way more lost. I gotta clear this up though its making me nuts! Like is everything I think I know wrong???? So i know the difference between a GS and a Tip and I also dont know what your talking about Ass show. I never said I do ass shows. However!! That being said if a client wants to see something in free I always charge 10 golds and I never show nudity except boobs so if they want pussy its exclusive or private only! But to have the pleasure of seeing me stand and turn or take my bra off or curl my toes its 10 gold.

When I do gold shows I do not accept tips to see these things. I tell the guys to tip into the show and they get to see the whole show and if they are high tipper they can request what ever they want.

So do you mean to say that whenever a guy wants to see your tits your make it a goldshow instead of just tipping to flash?? If I understood this correctly then thats just too much work. I dont care about FL seeing my tits for 30 seconds as long as some MF gave me 10 gold!

So back to the topic. If Im doing a gold show then its everything! Im pretty hardcore so you pay 5 gold and you get the show for 7mins. That is always my rate. If clients want to see the show they have to tip in 5 gold. If they are in another country then they have to tip in 6.68 CAD, 7.00 AUD, 4.80 EUR, 3.68 GBP or 5.10 swiss francs. That equals 5 USD, I dont have to think about it SM does it automatically, so I have made what I asked and Im paid in USD so just because its shows up in their currency they have still paid 5 USD and I collect the 35% of that 5 USD.

Now if its a tip to see my tits in Guest Chat then yes I have to go to my earnings page to see if they Tipped in AUS or CAD. I never do this anymore cause honestly Im not bothered too much plus I know most of the guys so I know if they are AUS or CAD and I tell them right away to tip more then 10 But from what I can see this is the only way I lose out. Otherwise I am not paying the Dynamic Currency Conversion that the bank charges SM because they converted the cash for the client. SM is paying that fee but I still got exactly what Im owed and if the client gives me another currency then Im actually making more money on the conversion generally.

For just random tips of course you should never ask for more but in conclusion if your doing a Gold Show that starts at 10 gold for one client to see your tits and he gives you 10 AUS or CAD then he wont be able to see your show because in fact he has only tipped in about 7 gold so your protected.

Or what am I missing here???

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 09:21 AM
Considering they've already paid for the money via their credit card & it's in their account (I think) when they tip 3 or 5 gold, that comes thru to the site AS 3 or 5 gold. For that reason we should see the amount in USD, but obviously we aren't if they are in AUS, Canada, the UK, EU, etc., so again, that to me is a rip off for the reasons I mentioned above.



Reading again I am also not sure they pay in advance. I believe it depends on their account. If they are big spenders I believe they can just be charged directly but like you Im not sure, its just my experience with big spenders. But when a client from the EU or the UK tips me I see the currency amount they tip in both for goldshows or for random tips. If its AUS or CAD and just a tip then I have to look on the earnings page to see the currency amount but if they tip into a GS in AUS or CAD then it shows up as 7.00 or 6.68 respectively. Perhaps your not seeing this in your chatroom??????????

This is what I see if a client tips in Euros for example.

https://i.imgur.com/8LfhR1y.png

ep2002
02-20-2018, 04:06 PM
Is anyone else having these dropped frames issues on OBS. I just worked with my geek friend & we can't figure out what the issue is. We've gone thru everything :(

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 04:10 PM
^^ cant you use the SMB? Whats your CPU at? How is your memory? Is it running high?

ep2002
02-20-2018, 04:25 PM
^^ cant you use the SMB? Whats your CPU at? How is your memory? Is it running high?

It was one of my ISPs in the end. I HATE living in a foreign country where the Internet sucks.

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 04:46 PM
That used to happen to me. Spains internet was antiquated but then they installed a 4G tower near my house and I have three separate lines all super fast!

ep2002
02-20-2018, 05:09 PM
That used to happen to me. Spains internet was antiquated but then they installed a 4G tower near my house and I have three separate lines all super fast!

You pay for 3 separate lines? How much are each in EUR?

I just switched back to cable after ditching it b/c of all their issues & decided to keep the DSL just in case. :(

The cable is once again causing issues <sigh> I lost a whole shift of work on SM due to this AND min. 1-2 hours trying to troubleshoot all b/c I forgot to test the DSL to see if I have the same issues.

ep2002
02-20-2018, 05:26 PM
If people wanna talk about SM ripping models off talk about them still having Firstchoice Pay as their cheapest option for models outside the USA and the MASSIVE fees they have to eat from your hard earned money.

I see hundreds of dollars disappear each week and they always take at least 5 cents more than the going exchange rate at the moment.

Just us losing out of lots of money because SM is too cheap/lazy to do a proper bank/wire transfer.

I can't believe they don't offer bank deposit for Americans. Being that they are such a large company, that should be standard. CB has it, IL has it, almost every other cam site offers that with a few exceptions.

You will never get the online exchange rate b/c all companies & banks take a few points off the top.

Amazingly Schawb (I know this doens't relate to you) is a very good bank in the US & I get almost the EXACT exchange rate that shows up online, not to mention NO foreign transaction fees & no fees of any kind.


Nope Im way way more lost. I gotta clear this up though its making me nuts! Like is everything I think I know wrong???? So i know the difference between a GS and a Tip and I also dont know what your talking about Ass show. I never said I do ass shows. However!! That being said if a client wants to see something in free I always charge 10 golds and I never show nudity except boobs so if they want pussy its exclusive or private only! But to have the pleasure of seeing me stand and turn or take my bra off or curl my toes its 10 gold.

When I do gold shows I do not accept tips to see these things. I tell the guys to tip into the show and they get to see the whole show and if they are high tipper they can request what ever they want.

So do you mean to say that whenever a guy wants to see your tits your make it a goldshow instead of just tipping to flash?? If I understood this correctly then thats just too much work. I dont care about FL seeing my tits for 30 seconds as long as some MF gave me 10 gold!

So back to the topic. If Im doing a gold show then its everything! Im pretty hardcore so you pay 5 gold and you get the show for 7mins. That is always my rate. If clients want to see the show they have to tip in 5 gold. If they are in another country then they have to tip in 6.68 CAD, 7.00 AUD, 4.80 EUR, 3.68 GBP or 5.10 swiss francs. That equals 5 USD, I dont have to think about it SM does it automatically, so I have made what I asked and Im paid in USD so just because its shows up in their currency they have still paid 5 USD and I collect the 35% of that 5 USD.

Now if its a tip to see my tits in Guest Chat then yes I have to go to my earnings page to see if they Tipped in AUS or CAD. I never do this anymore cause honestly Im not bothered too much plus I know most of the guys so I know if they are AUS or CAD and I tell them right away to tip more then 10 But from what I can see this is the only way I lose out. Otherwise I am not paying the Dynamic Currency Conversion that the bank charges SM because they converted the cash for the client. SM is paying that fee but I still got exactly what Im owed and if the client gives me another currency then Im actually making more money on the conversion generally.

For just random tips of course you should never ask for more but in conclusion if your doing a Gold Show that starts at 10 gold for one client to see your tits and he gives you 10 AUS or CAD then he wont be able to see your show because in fact he has only tipped in about 7 gold so your protected.

Or what am I missing here???

Ok, now MY brain hurts.

You obviously do way more GSs than I do. Maybe others can chime in b/c I was pretty sure when I was tipped via a GS that I was NOT making the full amount off of USD if he was CND. Maybe that only happened with tips, I don't know now.

See I turn my GS timer on & they come in & I do whatever my GS description is which is the same always unless they talk to me & want something else & I turn off the GS, re-set it up & then turn it on again which almost never happens.

99.9% of the guys in my room NEVER read the bloody description & drive me insane thinking they are getting a ton more than just tits for 5 gold.

I thought you mentioned ass, maybe it was someone else, sorry.

I can't believe guys pay you 10 gold just for standing or even a flash. The guys in my room balk at even 5 gold or they once again NEVER read the right amount on the GS box & they tip the 3 gold which is for anyone else who wants to come in after the 5 has been paid.

Lucky you :)


Reading again I am also not sure they pay in advance. I believe it depends on their account. If they are big spenders I believe they can just be charged directly but like you Im not sure, its just my experience with big spenders. But when a client from the EU or the UK tips me I see the currency amount they tip in both for goldshows or for random tips. If its AUS or CAD and just a tip then I have to look on the earnings page to see the currency amount but if they tip into a GS in AUS or CAD then it shows up as 7.00 or 6.68 respectively. Perhaps your not seeing this in your chatroom??????????

This is what I see if a client tips in Euros for example.

https://i.imgur.com/8LfhR1y.png

Now I REALLY want to know if this is only for tips or also for GSs.

But even if it says they tipped 5 gold for the GS, it only matters what we get on the backend & I still think (again could be wrong) that we aren't getting our % off of the full 5 USD

And the OP who started this conversation, wasn't she talking about a GS, not just a tip?

anonamiss
02-20-2018, 05:59 PM
Ok, now MY brain hurts.

You obviously do way more GSs than I do. Maybe others can chime in b/c I was pretty sure when I was tipped via a GS that I was NOT making the full amount off of USD if he was CND. Maybe that only happened with tips, I don't know now.

See I turn my GS timer on & they come in & I do whatever my GS description is which is the same always unless they talk to me & want something else & I turn off the GS, re-set it up & then turn it on again which almost never happens.

99.9% of the guys in my room NEVER read the bloody description & drive me insane thinking they are getting a ton more than just tits for 5 gold.

I thought you mentioned ass, maybe it was someone else, sorry.

I can't believe guys pay you 10 gold just for standing or even a flash. The guys in my room balk at even 5 gold or they once again NEVER read the right amount on the GS box & they tip the 3 gold which is for anyone else who wants to come in after the 5 has been paid.

Lucky you :)



Now I REALLY want to know if this is only for tips or also for GSs.

But even if it says they tipped 5 gold for the GS, it only matters what we get on the backend & I still think (again could be wrong) that we aren't getting our % off of the full 5 USD

And the OP who started this conversation, wasn't she talking about a GS, not just a tip?

you're going to get your full minimum tip for a gold show no matter what. they can't access the show if they tip less. they have to contribute at least the amount you're asking for in order to join. so if it's a $5 (USD) gold show, you might notice someone appear on your high tipper board for a $6.32 tip. but that is in canadian dollars, and is the equivalent amount of $5 USD. so it's not actually a "high tip" in the sense that you're getting any additional money. it's simply the amount they *need* to pay to join based on your $5 USD minimum.

and frankly, this is exactly how i wish regular tips worked. if i expect $5 USD for a flash, then I want the site to charge them $6.32 CAD.

edit: one issue that could come up in gold shows is if you have two competing high tippers from different currencies/countries. if your highest tipper is from canada and out-tips an American by a dollar, then he technically isn't the high tipper based on what you're getting in your pocket, but he will be shown as the highest tipper because of the amount of "gold" he's tipping. and that is what is frustrating to discover long after the gold show is over, particularly if he's tipping larger amounts... (for example, $25 "gold" in CAD is only $19.75 in USD, which is only $6.91 in our pocket when I'm expecting $8.75.)

sweetandnaughty
02-20-2018, 09:41 PM
I'm struggling with roleplays lately. I've always done them and did them well. I follow SM rules and my custies were very happy. I've had a few lately that just went not well and I know see it's cuz I'm trying to much to please them. I've gone into shows with be my milf nextdoor and seduce me and they want me to make the scene up as we go along, I do it and then get a low rating. I'm not doing improv anymore!! Either they tell me what to they want me to do in the scene or I'm not doing it. I guess I reached mylevel of putting up with stupid bullshit is full. I'm not a damn psychic..just had to vent. And if one more person asks me to meet I'm going to scream...I'm going to use the ban hammer more from now on!!

DeepThoughts
02-21-2018, 07:26 AM
You pay for 3 separate lines? How much are each in EUR?

I just switched back to cable after ditching it b/c of all their issues & decided to keep the DSL just in case. :(

The cable is once again causing issues <sigh> I lost a whole shift of work on SM due to this AND min. 1-2 hours trying to troubleshoot all b/c I forgot to test the DSL to see if I have the same issues.

its 30 Euros each a month for my two 4G lines. they are limited to 100GB and then I have one from the radio tower. Its unlimited but its 60 euros a month and not as fast. I couldnt cam on SM using it. Im considering to just drop it and get another 4G line and save the 30 euros difference! I never have any issues with my 4G service though.

DeepThoughts
02-21-2018, 07:33 AM
I can't believe they don't offer bank deposit for Americans. Being that they are such a large company, that should be standard. CB has it, IL has it, almost every other cam site offers that with a few exceptions.

You will never get the online exchange rate b/c all companies & banks take a few points off the top.

Amazingly Schawb (I know this doens't relate to you) is a very good bank in the US & I get almost the EXACT exchange rate that shows up online, not to mention NO foreign transaction fees & no fees of any kind.



Ok, now MY brain hurts.

You obviously do way more GSs than I do. Maybe others can chime in b/c I was pretty sure when I was tipped via a GS that I was NOT making the full amount off of USD if he was CND. Maybe that only happened with tips, I don't know now.

See I turn my GS timer on & they come in & I do whatever my GS description is which is the same always unless they talk to me & want something else & I turn off the GS, re-set it up & then turn it on again which almost never happens.

99.9% of the guys in my room NEVER read the bloody description & drive me insane thinking they are getting a ton more than just tits for 5 gold.

I thought you mentioned ass, maybe it was someone else, sorry.

I can't believe guys pay you 10 gold just for standing or even a flash. The guys in my room balk at even 5 gold or they once again NEVER read the right amount on the GS box & they tip the 3 gold which is for anyone else who wants to come in after the 5 has been paid.

Lucky you :)



Now I REALLY want to know if this is only for tips or also for GSs.

But even if it says they tipped 5 gold for the GS, it only matters what we get on the backend & I still think (again could be wrong) that we aren't getting our % off of the full 5 USD

And the OP who started this conversation, wasn't she talking about a GS, not just a tip?

That screen shot was just of a guy who was tipping me in my Guest chat for not reason but to set off my tip vibe. He was mad at me cause two sundays back I did a gangbang in Belgium and he couldnt attend so he was taking it out on my tip vibrator :D I actually cut it there cause I didnt want you all to see how high he actually went with the tips. Actually I did want you all to see it and I wanted to brag but honestly I know it can start the drama up like a match to fire and I really wanted to stay on topic!

Tip vibrators my friends! They are fun and get you $$ for nothing!

DeepThoughts
02-21-2018, 07:36 AM
y

edit: one issue that could come up in gold shows is if you have two competing high tippers from different currencies/countries. if your highest tipper is from canada and out-tips an American by a dollar, then he technically isn't the high tipper based on what you're getting in your pocket, but he will be shown as the highest tipper because of the amount of "gold" he's tipping. and that is what is frustrating to discover long after the gold show is over, particularly if he's tipping larger amounts... (for example, $25 "gold" in CAD is only $19.75 in USD, which is only $6.91 in our pocket when I'm expecting $8.75.)


Regarding the last part of this, You need to check your high tipper in the "high tipper" box on the left under the old streaming window. There it will tell you who is your high tipper in USD regardless of what they have tipped it.

You can see here that this Aussie has tipped in $7.00 but in "Top GS Contributors" window it shows as $5.18, that is how much it is in USD. Also my Gold is showing $140. One other guy was tipped in and so the Aussies $7.00 gold only registered there as 5 USD as well. So by keeping an eye here you can easily track who is your highest actual tipper! Hope this helps

https://i.imgur.com/J8nbsBt.png

imelly21
02-21-2018, 02:44 PM
2 minutes in with the broadcaster 0 potential customers ( so Im not on their servers yet) and... I just got disconnected.
Streamate Limited Error. The session failed to start.

PixiieGirl
02-21-2018, 02:55 PM
It’s so dang quiet

seicento
02-21-2018, 02:57 PM
I can't start broadcasting! Stupid site.